Enough with lies, this is what happens when US troops set out to kill civilians

[QUOTE="vfibsux"]This is what America stands for, when one of our own does wrong, he or she WILL face the consequences. MrPraline

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

There are definitely some cover ups out there but to believe any military personnel can just kill someone because they want to and not face extreme punishment is blatant stupidity.

HouseMuzik4Life

Feel free

[QUOTE="vfibsux"]This is what America stands for, when one of our own does wrong, he or she WILL face the consequences. MrPraline

Not sure what I was thinking, I forgot where I was. I think I am finished with diplomacy, you are all not worth my time.

death penalty seems kind of harsh for this guy. Yeah he killed 16 people, but I think he probably snapped from stress or something and had a mental breakdown. If I recall correctly, the soldier shot up the Afghan villagers a short while after a group of Afghan soldiers and policeman that the U.S. army was training gunned down a the American troops that were training them.

whipassmt

Also the amount of anti americanism in this thread is shameful.

[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

death penalty seems kind of harsh for this guy. Yeah he killed 16 people, but I think he probably snapped from stress or something and had a mental breakdown. If I recall correctly, the soldier shot up the Afghan villagers a short while after a group of Afghan soldiers and policeman that the U.S. army was training gunned down a the American troops that were training them.

MakeMeaSammitch

Also the amount of anti americanism in this thread is shameful.

There is nothing justifiable about premeditated murder

Oh he only killed 16 people but give him a break guys. he had it rough

[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

death penalty seems kind of harsh for this guy. Yeah he killed 16 people, but I think he probably snapped from stress or something and had a mental breakdown. If I recall correctly, the soldier shot up the Afghan villagers a short while after a group of Afghan soldiers and policeman that the U.S. army was training gunned down a the American troops that were training them.

whiskeystrike

Also the amount of anti americanism in this thread is shameful.

There is nothing justifiable about premeditated murder

Oh he only killed 16 people but give him a break guys. he had it rough

These things happen in war.

[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

death penalty seems kind of harsh for this guy. Yeah he killed 16 people, but I think he probably snapped from stress or something and had a mental breakdown. If I recall correctly, the soldier shot up the Afghan villagers a short while after a group of Afghan soldiers and policeman that the U.S. army was training gunned down a the American troops that were training them.

Also the amount of anti americanism in this thread is shameful.

There is nothing justifiable about premeditated murder

Oh he only killed 16 people but give him a break guys. he had it rough

[QUOTE="ad1x2"]I always find it funny when clueless people make assumptions that hold very little in truth. People are acting like Staff Sergeant Bales is the only US Soldier who has faced the death penalty for the murder of foreign nationals. He is far from the only one. Google Steven Dale Green, you will see he is serving life in prison for raping and murdering a 14-year old Iraqi girl. If the US really wanted to murder a bunch of Afghans they would just pull all troops out and bomb the place until there is a crater where every major city used to be.

Some of you have no idea what kind of punishment troops can face under the UCMJ. Where else in the US can you go to jail for cheating on your wife, or having sex with a married woman even though you are single yourself? Or go to jail for telling your boss to fvck off, for being late for work, or coming up positive on a urine test (things a civilian could at worst face being fired for)?kuraimen

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]Pretty much agree with this.

Also the amount of anti americanism in this thread is shameful.

MakeMeaSammitch

There is nothing justifiable about premeditated murder

Oh he only killed 16 people but give him a break guys. he had it rough

These things happen in war.

[QUOTE="vfibsux"]This is what America stands for, when one of our own does wrong, he or she WILL face the consequences. MrPraline

He's only on trial because it went public. His superiors would have gladly swept this under the rug if they could have. They would do anything to avoid the media finding out.

He's only on trial because it went public. His superiors would have gladly swept this under the rug if they could have. They would do anything to avoid the media finding out.

junglist101

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="vfibsux"]This is what America stands for, when one of our own does wrong, he or she WILL face the consequences. GrayF0X786

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="MrPraline"] When is Barry Obama's trial date?ad1x2

and the amount of times US soldiers have killed civilians then said they were mistaken for enemy combatants?

[QUOTE="ad1x2"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]kuraimen

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]They don't specifically target civilians, that's just silly. However they don't give a sh*t if they do get caught up on the crossfire.whiskeystrike

Quite a lot actually. There is nothing inherently different about someone when they put on the uniform. The military gets all types

[QUOTE="ad1x2"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]kuraimen

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="MrPraline"] When is Barry Obama's trial date?ad1x2

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]They don't specifically target civilians, that's just silly. However they don't give a sh*t if they do get caught up on the crossfire.LJS9502_basic

Quite a lot actually. There is nothing inherently different about someone when they put on the uniform. The military gets all types

Well yeah I know. I should have said that the military was comprised of normal people. To say we don't care about civilian deaths is a little bit insulting. On a grand scheme of things its easy to say tragedies are irrelevant but thats something that could be said of the human race in general

[QUOTE="ad1x2"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]-Sun_Tzu-

The military is a bureaucracy, and like all bureaucracies it has no incentive to highlight its failures, or to police itself particularly stringently. Seeking the death penalty for one case is like saying "Internal affairs sought prosecution on a corrupt cop, therefore police corruption doesn't exist!" Silly. Rhazakna

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Then basically you've got nothing.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yeah it is a bit beneath me.....Nibroc420

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yeah it is a bit beneath me.....LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] You can't even understand the basic concepts much less the entire convokuraimen

Ethics>morals>lawkuraimen

Depends on the group that's why ethics is abovekuraimen

I paraphrased your f*cking comments dude.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Oh I understood it. You said ethics matter. Then you said it depends on the individual ethical valuations. Which, in effect, means you said nothing of substance. Again.LJS9502_basic

Ethics>morals>lawkuraimen

Depends on the group that's why ethics is abovekuraimen

I paraphrased your f*cking comments dude.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Oh I understood it. You said ethics matter. Then you said it depends on the individual ethical valuations. Which, in effect, means you said nothing of substance. Again.LJS9502_basic

Ethics>morals>lawkuraimen

Depends on the group that's why ethics is abovekuraimen

I paraphrased your f*cking comments dude.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Yeah like I figured you didn't understand anything. Morals is not the same as ethics. Morals depend on each group ethics is a rational evaluation of what's right and wrong and laws also change between groups dummykuraimen

Ethics>morals>lawkuraimen

Depends on the group that's why ethics is abovekuraimen

I paraphrased your f*cking comments dude.

Ethics and morals don't hold up in a court of law unless the action is illegal. So the haters have nothing. And I'm saying this as a guy who has very little in common with the President in terms of political opinions.someone said

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]Pretty much agree with this.

Also the amount of anti americanism in this thread is shameful.

MakeMeaSammitch

There is nothing justifiable about premeditated murder

Oh he only killed 16 people but give him a break guys. he had it rough

These things happen in war.

[QUOTE="vfibsux"]This is what America stands for, when one of our own does wrong, he or she WILL face the consequences. MrPraline

-Sun_Tzu-

I don't believe any of that sh*t, and I don't even like Obama. Do you really think Obama - knowingly - kills hundreds of innocent people through his drone strikes? Really? This guy has kids, is a family man-and, mind you, Obama is the same person who was crying about the Newtown Massacre. I doubt Obama is a "mass murderer"....

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] kingkong0124

I don't believe any of that sh*t, and I don't even like Obama. Do you really think Obama - knowingly - kills hundreds of innocent people through his drone strikes? Really? This guy has kids, is a family man-and, mind you, Obama is the same person who was crying about the Newtown Massacre. I doubt Obama is a "mass murderer"....

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] kingkong0124

I don't believe any of that sh*t, and I don't even like Obama. Do you really think Obama - knowingly - kills hundreds of innocent people through his drone strikes? Really? This guy has kids, is a family man-and, mind you, Obama is the same person who was crying about the Newtown Massacre. I doubt Obama is a "mass murderer"....

[QUOTE="ad1x2"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

-Sun_Tzu-