Even if you don't believe in any god or practice any religion...

What annoys you so much about people who do? Does another persons belief in a god harm or inconvenience you so much that you have to express oppression to it? If religion isn't an aspect in your life, but is just plain wrong, what makes gay marriage alright even though it has equally no effect on you? For people who aim to be so philosophical, attacking someone with different beliefs than you seems pretty primitive.

And forcing the laws of bible on some political issues down everyones throats (religious or not) is so different, right?

People who; try and slander scientists like Darwin, try and get creationism taught in science class, come to my door at 10pm trying to convert me, are against human rights, declare war against group x based on religion, etc DO get in the way. They are obnoxious and sometimes dangerous.

If people keep to themselves and practice their religion without infringing on other people's privacy and rights then there is no problem at all. They are free to practice any religion they want.

It doesn't bother me at all. I'm not religious, but I find hardcore atheists much more annoying than religious folk.

The difference between gay marriage and religion is the many of the followers of religion try and persuad others to follow their religion. Their explanation of why they should follow their religion is because they think we'jj burn in hell and they are merely trying to save us. Many of the followers of religion also believe that without God we would have no morals and if there was no God in a person life, without laws to structure society, atheists would be running around like monkeys throwing poo at eachother and killign eachother over the least little things.

When my Great Grandfather died, my Grat Grandmother turned to religion. She has always been religious, but became more so after he passed. It has saved her life. her faith helped her get through sever depression, suicidal tendencies, and a bout of temporary insanity. She is a better person because of religion.

I am an Athiest, but I know first hand the healing power of faith. That does not mean I want it shoved into my life, when I don't want it.

When my Great Grandfather died, my Grat Grandmother turned to religion. She has always been religious, but became more so after he passed. It has saved her life. her faith helped her get through sever depression, suicidal tendencies, and a bout of temporary insanity. She is a better person because of religion.

I am an Athiest, but I know first hand the healing power of faith. That does not mean I want it shoved into my life, when I don't want it.

heysharpshooter

The difference between gay marriage and religion is the many of the followers of religion try and persuad others to follow their religion.

BumFluff122

Has gay marriage not been "shoved down our necks" by the media either? Most people find a way to deal with political issues and remain sane.

The difference between gay marriage and religion is the many of the followers of religion try and persuad others to follow their religion. Their explanation of why they should follow their religion is because they think we'jj burn in hell and they are merely trying to save us. Many of the followers of religion also believe that without God we would have no morals and if there was no God in a person life, without laws to structure society, atheists would be running around like monkeys throwing poo at eachother and killign eachother over the least little things.

BumFluff122

I don't know right now Im confused with my religion stuff,but I hate homophobia or hate against anything that discriminates people.

It doesn't bother me at all. I'm not religious, but I find hardcore atheists much more annoying than religious folk.

Pirate700

You stole the words from my mouth.

If religion isn't an aspect in your life, but is just plain wrong, what makes gay marriage alright even though it has equally no effect on you?

Nintendevil

First, I don't know what you're trying to say here.

Second, I have no problem with other people's religious beliefs, so long as they aren't forced on others or used to influence public policy. I see religious motivation as a major reason for the illegality of same sex marriage, and I have a big problem with that.

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The difference between gay marriage and religion is the many of the followers of religion try and persuad others to follow their religion.

Nintendevil

Has gay marriage not been "shoved down our necks" by the media either? Most people find a way to deal with political issues and remain sane.

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The difference between gay marriage and religion is the many of the followers of religion try and persuad others to follow their religion.

Nintendevil

Has gay marriage not been "shoved down our necks" by the media either? Most people find a way to deal with political issues and remain sane.

No one is forcing you to marry a man. At least I hope they aren't.

Because Religion has been a huge obstacle in the search for truth. Have you heard what happened to Galileo, Darwin, etc? Religion disagreement has been the cause of countless wars. And in general, I don't like large, power hungry, corrupt institutions. And personally, it annoys me when someone overlooks the truth that is in front of their face in favor of something that is based on blind faith. And I don't like when people try to hide behind religion to justify their bigotry, sexism, etc.

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The difference between gay marriage and religion is the many of the followers of religion try and persuad others to follow their religion. Their explanation of why they should follow their religion is because they think we'jj burn in hell and they are merely trying to save us. Many of the followers of religion also believe that without God we would have no morals and if there was no God in a person life, without laws to structure society, atheists would be running around like monkeys throwing poo at eachother and killign eachother over the least little things.

rawsavon

I dunno, I'm personally agnostic, but I've really yet to see any conversion nuts. On the contrary, I've seen a helluva lot of anti-Christian groups...I'm thinking it's just the US with all the conversion stuff, I'm in Canada and I don't really even HEAR about religion off the internet much anymore, really...XD Just people calling all Christians bigots for no reason then acting like they're right. And that ticks me off, personally. =/

The only problems I have with religion is when it forces itself into political issues and the fanatics, which really ought to be regarded as an unfortunate byproduct. Plus the evangelists can be a pain, though fortunately I haven't had too many encounters with them myself.

What annoys you so much about people who do?

Nintendevil

Nothing.

I am only against beliefs that stops intellectual progression, or biggoted beliefs.sSubZerOo

There where many intellectual and brilliant people who believed in a god. Even the ancient Greeks and Romans, some of the strongest empires to live, where religious. It got them into a lot of trouble, but that made them no less remarkable.

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The difference between gay marriage and religion is the many of the followers of religion try and persuad others to follow their religion. Their explanation of why they should follow their religion is because they think we'jj burn in hell and they are merely trying to save us. Many of the followers of religion also believe that without God we would have no morals and if there was no God in a person life, without laws to structure society, atheists would be running around like monkeys throwing poo at eachother and killign eachother over the least little things.

BumFluff122

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]I am only against beliefs that stops intellectual progression, or biggoted beliefs.Nintendevil

There where many intellectual and brilliant people who believed in a god. Even the ancient Greeks and Romans, some of the strongest empires to live, where religious. It got them into a lot of trouble, but that made them no less remarkable.

Every man needs something to believe in.. something to hold onto. Now, I really don't care what that concept is.. but believing in nothing really doesn't work in the end. I have no problem with people of any religion... though, I do not like when corporate entities exploit certain religions to make money.

That threads like this and any other thread dealing with religion is forced down my throat on a regular basis.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]I am only against beliefs that stops intellectual progression, or biggoted beliefs.Nintendevil

There where many intellectual and brilliant people who believed in a god. Even the ancient Greeks and Romans, some of the strongest empires to live, where religious. It got them into a lot of trouble, but that made them no less remarkable.

That threads like this and any other thread dealing with religion is forced down my throat on a regular basis.

Puscifer_No1

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]I am only against beliefs that stops intellectual progression, or biggoted beliefs.sSubZerOo

There where many intellectual and brilliant people who believed in a god. Even the ancient Greeks and Romans, some of the strongest empires to live, where religious. It got them into a lot of trouble, but that made them no less remarkable.

Every man needs something to believe in.. something to hold onto.

EMOEVOLUTION

Why? I'm happy considering us to be nothing more than blobs of carbon which have adapted to the point where we are capable of thought, on a miniscule ball of rock in a universe that has no concern about our wellbeing. I'm not trying to debate that view, but I don't see why I'd need to believe in something else for the benefit of my mental welfare

My problem with religion is that it's followers believe whole heartedly in something that can't be proven. How can anyone believe that they are 100% correct in something, but have absolutely nothing of substance to back it up? And if you can believe so strongly in that, then why do we laugh at the ancient Greeks for believing in Zeus and their other gods? There is as much evidence backing their beliefs up as Christian beliefs. I'm not saying god doesn't exist, I'm just saying I'll hold judgment until I have something that at least indicates he exists (most likely this will only happen when I'm dead).

My problem with religion is that it's followers believe whole heartedly in something that can't be proven. How can anyone believe that they are 100% correct in something, but have absolutely nothing of substance to back it up? And if you can believe so strongly in that, then why do we laugh at the ancient Greeks for believing in Zeus and their other gods? There is as much evidence backing their beliefs up as Christian beliefs. I'm not saying god doesn't exist, I'm just saying I'll hold judgment until I have something that at least indicates he exists (most likely this will only happen when I'm dead).

redstorm72

Religion is looked higher upon than Science by most religious folk. Eliminating religion would be a step forward for everyone. It'd be like the Age of Enlightenment all over again.KHAndAnime

My problem with religion is that it's followers believe whole heartedly in something that can't be proven. How can anyone believe that they are 100% correct in something, but have absolutely nothing of substance to back it up? And if you can believe so strongly in that, then why do we laugh at the ancient Greeks for believing in Zeus and their other gods? There is as much evidence backing their beliefs up as Christian beliefs. I'm not saying god doesn't exist, I'm just saying I'll hold judgment until I have something that at least indicates he exists (most likely this will only happen when I'm dead).

redstorm72

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There where many intellectual and brilliant people who believed in a god. Even the ancient Greeks and Romans, some of the strongest empires to live, where religious. It got them into a lot of trouble, but that made them no less remarkable.

Nintendevil

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Religion is looked higher upon than Science by most religious folk. Eliminating religion would be a step forward for everyone. It'd be like the Age of Enlightenment all over again.EMOEVOLUTION

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] ... I never said that all religions are like that did I? I said speciifcally the ones that STOP intellectual progression.. Like the ideas of religions completley disregarding evolution..sSubZerOo

But those are extremists. You have a problem with people who interpreted and followed religion, not the belief in its self.

Edit: I suppose that's the question I asked in the OP, isn't it? I should have asked what ones problem with the belief is, in which case I would have received different responses.

I actually think atheists are generally more inclined to push their beliefs than religious people.goth_bacon

[QUOTE="goth_bacon"]I actually think atheists are generally more inclined to push their beliefs than religious people.BumFluff122

[QUOTE="goth_bacon"]I actually think atheists are generally more inclined to push their beliefs than religious people.BumFluff122

[QUOTE="goth_bacon"]I actually think atheists are generally more inclined to push their beliefs than religious people.BumFluff122

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[QUOTE="goth_bacon"]I actually think atheists are generally more inclined to push their beliefs than religious people.Pirate700

those killed in the 9/11 terrorists attack may argue that another person's belief does harm or inconvenience them.. being burned to death in an inferno is rather inconvenient...comp_atkins

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[QUOTE="goth_bacon"]I actually think atheists are generally more inclined to push their beliefs than religious people.alexside1

So, TC is basically questioning atheists why they question other people's beliefs?