Is this what tipping is?
Or, in the US for example, is it a bit different?
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parties of 8 or more generally have 20% added to their bill; most restaurants tell you this flat-out on their menus.
But no, not every restaurant automatically adds 10% to the bill (nor should they)
I usually double tax and leave that as my tip, pretty close to 20%. If its good service I will usually add more, or if its my favorite bartender.
Places add a 15-20% gratuity for large parties since they are logistically harder to serve than smaller ones and usually the voluntary tip for that size party does not scale up at the same rate the party size does.
Tipping is totally optional. If it werent it would just be called a fee and not a tip.
I personally start at 20% and work my way down depending on how bad the service i get is. If i end up pleased, they get the full 20%. If i get crappy service they can get down to and including nothing at all.
If my service is exceptionally bad i will leave 1 cent to let them know that i did not forget to tip and left them that paltry sum on purpose as a result of them being so terrible at their job. I of course only do this in places i rarely go to or will never visit again since one could expect things to be put in your food if you got the same person again and they remembered.
[QUOTE="thattotally"]Is this what tipping is?No. Tip is not forced, though it is expectedyeah, defies the point tbh. even if you get horrible service they scowl at you if you don't tipOr, in the US for example, is it a bit different?
rawsavon
I generally tip 15%, sometimes more if the service is especially good. Rarely will I leave less, the service has to be really bad in order for me to do that. There's been one time where I haven't left a tip at all. In that case not only was the service subpar, but the waitress was insulting as well. I noted this on the bill. Then on one time I ordered a pizza. By the time the pizza had got there a really bad storm have rolled in. Torrential rain, limited visiblilty. I felt so bad that I just handed the guy all the cash in my wallet and told him to keep what was left. The guy got a $15 tip on a $16 order.
No. Tip is not forced, though it is expectedyeah, defies the point tbh. even if you get horrible service they scowl at you if you don't tipThey can give me any look they want. If the service isn't good, I generally don't tip.[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="thattotally"]Is this what tipping is?
Or, in the US for example, is it a bit different?
Overlord93
The fact that tips are generally considered required by most is why service is terrible almost everywhere you go. They have no incentive to try harder since 99% of the time they will still get the same amount.
If people stopped tipping for terrible service, everyone would benefit.
And there lies a problem. Too many people think they are obligated to leave a tip when they aren't.The fact that tips are generally considered required by most is why service is terrible almost everywhere you go. They have no incentive to try harder since 99% of the time they will still get the same amount.
If people stopped tipping for terrible service, everyone would benefit.
Alter_Echo
And there lies a problem. Too many people think they are obligated to leave a tip when they aren't.[QUOTE="Alter_Echo"]
The fact that tips are generally considered required by most is why service is terrible almost everywhere you go. They have no incentive to try harder since 99% of the time they will still get the same amount.
If people stopped tipping for terrible service, everyone would benefit.
Pirate700
I know I've heard this somewhere but aren't the wages they're paid based on the assumption that they'll be receiving tips and as a result many are actually under the minimum wage?
And there lies a problem. Too many people think they are obligated to leave a tip when they aren't.[QUOTE="Pirate700"]
[QUOTE="Alter_Echo"]
The fact that tips are generally considered required by most is why service is terrible almost everywhere you go. They have no incentive to try harder since 99% of the time they will still get the same amount.
If people stopped tipping for terrible service, everyone would benefit.
Atmanix
I know I've heard this somewhere but aren't the wages they're paid based on the assumption that they'll be receiving tips and as a result many are actually under the minimum wage?
To a point. If somehow the staff's total pay for that period didn't meet minimum wage, the company has to bump the pay up for that check. So they never actually get less than minimum wage.[QUOTE="Atmanix"]
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]And there lies a problem. Too many people think they are obligated to leave a tip when they aren't.
Pirate700
I know I've heard this somewhere but aren't the wages they're paid based on the assumption that they'll be receiving tips and as a result many are actually under the minimum wage?
To a point. If somehow the staff's total pay for that period didn't meet minimum wage, the company has to bump the pay up for that check. So they never actually get less than minimum wage.Ah ok, I was wondering how that was legal. Thanks for clearing it up for me.
Generally, when I go out to eat, I tip $5 if the bill is under $50 and $10 if it's over $50, which it rarely is. Also depends on the service though, if it's good service, I'll tip more, if not, I'll tip less.
[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Jazz_Fan"]I never tip!clayronI hope you never eat out; otherwise, I hope you get the service you deserve You seem very offended with the fact that he does not tip. I am *shrug*
It mostly depends on the service. If the waiter/waitress is prompt on refills of drinks and they are there if you need them for something I generally will tip in the 20% range. If they are terrible than they maybe get 10%
I have had outstanding service in the past where i tipped larger amounts. Olive Garden a couple times I gave the waiter a 20 dollar tip. I know at one restaurant I was in the waitress was fuming that the table near us was trashed and they left no tip. I ordered my food with my friend and than after we we're done I asked her to have the chef come out. He did and I gave the chef and her each 20 bucks. I don't do that much anymore as I usually don't have that kind of money to throw around but when I do I don't mind tipping great service
I hate tipping. I honestly don't see why I should pay someone to do a job they're already being paid to do as is.Stevo_the_gamerI agree in principle. Especially considering how expensive eating out already is these days. Unfortunately since the American Restaurant industry is so damn cheap, they don't want to just pay their employees a regular wage which could do away with tipping.
I hate tipping. I honestly don't see why I should pay someone to do a job they're already being paid to do as is.Stevo_the_gamer
1. Servers get paid minimum wage and work too hard, thus they deserve more
2. Many restaurants take advantage of loopholes, allowing them to pay servers less than minimum wage (sometiems as low as 5.50 in California)
3. It is just the way it is :P We live in a society where service-based occupations should be rewarded, specifically if they try harder than they need to. That is what it comes down to: tips are for people that give you 110% instead of the bare minimum.
A server that gives you a glass of water, brings your food, and disappears and gives you youre tab late deservers no tip. A server that constantly refills your cup of water, brings food out hot and quickly, always pays attention to you, and is generally a nice person is putting in extra effort, and thus deserves a reward.
I will say this, though: I usd to work in a restaurant as a chef, and the amount of money some servers would go home with is disgusting lol. This one guy, he was a tall and handsome fella', very nice, would average 200 a night...thats over 40k dollars, working four nights a week. Plus a paycheck.
Well they could, you know, do their job well and they'll get tips from almost everyone. And waiters/waitresses, with tips generally make serious bank.Considering how little waiters and waitresses make, not tipping is a really scummy thing to do.
FleeceJohnson
Well they could, you know, do their job well and they'll get tips from almost everyone. And waiters/waitresses, with tips generally make serious bank.[QUOTE="FleeceJohnson"]
Considering how little waiters and waitresses make, not tipping is a really scummy thing to do.
Pirate700
Except that I've seen plenty of people not tip even when the service was good.
The service has to be godawful for me not to leave something. I also don't tip when I do carryout.
It is not normal to tip in every country...[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="xaos"] I am *shrug*ariz3260
True. It is not necessary to tip in China. When I tried once the waiter was staring at me wide eyed
:lol: I can imagine25% is my baseline, usually... but I don't always adhere to it, especially as the price of the meal falls. If I eat at a cheap local diner and the bill comes to $15 for 2 people, I might leave a 50% tip. Pizza delivery guys love me for that reason. The order might be $15 or so, but I sometimes tip like 70%.Dark__LinkGood man :)
25% is my baseline, usually... but I don't always adhere to it, especially as the price of the meal falls. If I eat at a cheap local diner and the bill comes to $15 for 2 people, I might leave a 50% tip. Pizza delivery guys love me for that reason. The order might be $15 or so, but I sometimes tip like 70%.Dark__LinkGood lord. I'm going to find out where you eat and apply for a job there. :lol:
[QUOTE="Dark__Link"]25% is my baseline, usually... but I don't always adhere to it, especially as the price of the meal falls. If I eat at a cheap local diner and the bill comes to $15 for 2 people, I might leave a 50% tip. Pizza delivery guys love me for that reason. The order might be $15 or so, but I sometimes tip like 70%.rawsavonGood man :) And I can't even remember the last time I withheld some or all of the tip because of bad service. It takes a lot for me to do that, since I worked in restaurants when I was younger... I know the **** they have to deal with.
20% is a very generous tip. 10-15% is more standard.Well, you're expected to tip in the U.S. Currently it is 20% (I give 15% roughly). You're not required to though unless you have a party greater than 8 (usually) in which case it IS added onto your bill.
Atmanix
1. Servers get paid minimum wage and work too hard, thus they deserve more
2. Many restaurants take advantage of loopholes, allowing them to pay servers less than minimum wage (sometiems as low as 5.50 in California)
3. It is just the way it is :P We live in a society where service-based occupations should be rewarded, specifically if they try harder than they need to. That is what it comes down to: tips are for people that give you 110% instead of the bare minimum.
A server that gives you a glass of water, brings your food, and disappears and gives you youre tab late deservers no tip. A server that constantly refills your cup of water, brings food out hot and quickly, always pays attention to you, and is generally a nice person is putting in extra effort, and thus deserves a reward.
I will say this, though: I usd to work in a restaurant as a chef, and the amount of money some servers would go home with is disgusting lol. This one guy, he was a tall and handsome fella', very nice, would average 200 a night...thats over 40k dollars, working four nights a week. Plus a paycheck.
mrbojangles25
1) They do work hard, which is why they should get more benefits, and get paid more by their employer. I am not their employer, it is not my problem that they picked a ****ty-ass job. It's theirs. They should fix and/or remedy their problem.
2) Sucks for them.
3) Meh.
[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"]25% is my baseline, usually... but I don't always adhere to it, especially as the price of the meal falls. If I eat at a cheap local diner and the bill comes to $15 for 2 people, I might leave a 50% tip. Pizza delivery guys love me for that reason. The order might be $15 or so, but I sometimes tip like 70%.Dark__LinkGood man :) And I can't even remember the last time I withheld some or all of the tip because of bad service. It takes a lot for me to do that, since I worked in restaurants when I was younger... I know the **** they have to deal with. Same here -I have not worked in food service, but I worked retail from the time I was 12 till 27 I can't remember ever getting terrible service (except when I was young and with my parents...but who knows how accurate those memories are) I almost always get okay to great service, and I go out of my way to be polite
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