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I had to express my opinion on the offense for once. >_>Opinions rock!
I approve of this thread. 8)
MoldOnHold
The thing is, you're preaching about opinions here, yet you're so aggressive towards anyone who dares put forth one that contradicts your own.
I, personally, think fall out boy are absolutely terrible. I really do. I'm not a hater, and i'm not an elitist. But according to you i am. Simply because i find their music whiney and irritating.
Opinions work both ways. You cant talk about how it's all a matter of opinion, and therefore fall out boy are great, only to talk down at anyone who dares say otherwise.
I've kept my opinion defensive since I joined this board. However, time and time again I see unnecessary hate towards them. I'm just doing the same thing. ^_^The thing is, you're preaching about opinions here, yet you're so aggressive towards anyone who dares put forth one that contradicts your own.
I, personally, think fall out boy are absolutely terrible. I really do. I'm not a hater, and i'm not an elitist. But according to you i am. Simply because i find their music whiney and irritating.
Opinions work both ways. You cant talk about how it's all a matter of opinion, and therefore fall out boy are great, only to talk down at anyone who dares say otherwise.
Ninja-Hippo
Wouldn't it be great if Pianist waltzed in and dropped a technical analysis?A_Tarkovsky
That would be great. Pianist is the man! :P
Wouldn't it be great if Pianist waltzed in and dropped a technical analysis?A_TarkovskyIt wouldn't work. You can throw technical music jargon all you like. Fact is, their high vocals, repetitive guitars and strange lyrics make awesome songs. You can't break down the songs without mentioning the things that make them great.
Wouldn't it be great if Pianist waltzed in and dropped a technical analysis?A_Tarkovsky
a) Musically speaking, they use the same generic patterns of power chords made popular by Punk rock in the 70s, used a lot more by glam-rock and later grunge leading into the 90s, and completely overdone and used to excess by the likes of Green Day.
b) Their sound lacks any form of originality whatsoever.
c) The singer sounds as though he is on the verge of tears at all times, hence my criticism of "whiney music". If you dig that, great. But i cant stand music which sounds like wailing or crying.
d) The videos are nearly always teen stereotypes gone wild
e) Their fans have a tendency to justify their like of their music, which in my opinion, only points out how bad they really are. If your fanbase feels the need to explain why they like the music and why it's ok to listen to it, your next album needs some more work.
/analysis of fall out boy crappiness
Cliche generic and repetitive power chords and shallow whiney lyrics, oh, but it's your opinion :roll: that doesn't mean your opinion isnt stupid and uneducated, lemonmanblugdo1Who decides what my opinion is? The guy with no regard for manners? Oh yes... have at it, young man.
I've kept my opinion defensive since I joined this board. However, time and time again I see unnecessary hate towards them. I'm just doing the same thing. ^_^SolidSnake35
How can you describe vocalising dislike of fallout boy as unnecessary? The simple fact is that an awful lot of people greatly dislike them.
I realise that they're popular with young teenagers, and that's great. But the vast majority of people aren't fans, so it's pointless to try to convert people, and it's pointless to try and brand anyone who says a word against them as elitist or haters because that simply isn't the case.
Most people simply dont think they're any good. I'm the only person out of everyone i know (in real life) who loves Beck, but i dont try to force it on others, or tell people they're wrong when they hate his latest song. Life doesn't work that way.
[QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"]Wouldn't it be great if Pianist waltzed in and dropped a technical analysis?Ninja-Hippo
a) Musically speaking, they use the same generic patterns of power chords made popular by Punk rock in the 70s, used a lot more by glam-rock and later grunge leading into the 90s, and completely overdone and used to excess by the likes of Green Day.
b) Their sound lacks any form of originality whatsoever.
c) The singer sounds as though he is on the verge of tears at all times, hence my criticism of "whiney music". If you dig that, great. But i cant stand music which sounds like wailing or crying.
d) The videos are nearly always teen stereotypes gone wild
e) Their fans have a tendency to justify their like of their music, which in my opinion, only points out how bad they really are. If your fanbase feels the need to explain why they like the music and why it's ok to listen to it, your next album needs some more work.
/analysis of fall out boy crappiness
Sounds good though... Not true... He sings well. The bands you like probably put no effort into their singing. Pity. Um... no. Their videos are a bit of fun. Most are just of them, playing. O_o This justification comes from, as I said, the endless amounts of hate that can be seen on this board.[QUOTE="lemonmanblugdo1"]Cliche generic and repetitive power chords and shallow whiney lyrics, oh, but it's your opinion :roll: that doesn't mean your opinion isnt stupid and uneducated, SolidSnake35Who decides what my opinion is? The guy with no regard for manners? Oh yes... have at it, young man.
yes me, but that's only my opinion. No redgaurd for manners? Well thats just your opinion.
PS Ninja Hippo wins thread.
[QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"]Wouldn't it be great if Pianist waltzed in and dropped a technical analysis?SolidSnake35It wouldn't work. You can throw technical music jargon all you like. Fact is, their high vocals, repetitive guitars and strange lyrics make awesome songs. You can't break down the songs without mentioning the things that make them great.Wait...what?
I don't understand why it wouldn't work. Needless to say, Fall Out Boy is like an annoying acquaintence that you see everytime you go to a store that plays music that you want to get rid of, but don't care enough about to go the front and demand that he be removed from within your earshot. Like Uwe Boll, it's not so much that they're mind-bogglingly terrible as it is they're mind-numbingly generic and boring. Why not listen to any one of the thousands of other mediocre pop-punk bands? It's not like there's any difference.
Wouldn't it be great if Pianist waltzed in and dropped a technical analysis?A_TarkovskyWhich would actually mean zip when it comes to the entertainment level of any music. One doesn't need understand musical terms to appreciate music....;)
Fact...The Cure > FOB. Though I'm willing to hear your argument....:DLJS9502_basicThe Cure doesn't have an awesome video making fun of their lyrics...or at least I can't recall one.
Most people simply dont think they're any good. I'm the only person out of everyone i know (in real life) who loves Beck, but i dont try to force it on others, or tell people they're wrong when they hate his latest song. Life doesn't work that way.Ninja-HippoI have as much right to make this thread as poster number 945 does to say "oh em gee, they suck". I've tried ignoring it but, frankly, this way is more amusing.
[QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"]Wouldn't it be great if Pianist waltzed in and dropped a technical analysis?LJS9502_basicWhich would actually mean zip when it comes to the entertainment level of any music. One doesn't need understand musical terms to appreciate music....;)SolidSnake is looking for evidence. Pianist is probably the one person who can most ably provide it.
Though I agree with you in general terms. But Fall Out Boy is as dull as music gets to me.
Why not listen to any one of the thousands of other mediocre pop-punk bands? It's not like there's any difference. A_TarkovskyI guess I find FOB's music to be superior. You just can't see what makes them better, just like I can't see what makes the bands you like better than FOB. I'd say it's all opinions but evidently many of you think your opinion is "better", hence this thread.
[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Most people simply dont think they're any good. I'm the only person out of everyone i know (in real life) who loves Beck, but i dont try to force it on others, or tell people they're wrong when they hate his latest song. Life doesn't work that way.SolidSnake35I have as much right to make this thread as poster number 945 does to say "oh em gee, they suck". I've tried ignoring it but, frankly, this way is more amusing.
It is a fact that you cannot preach about the subjectivity of opinions, when you too do the very thing you're supposedly against; putting down other opinions as inferior or incorrect in comparison to your own.
If somebody says fall out boy suck, you should know that that is their opinion. There is no need for a rebuttal. No need for you to call them a hater or an elitist. And no need to say that they are wrong. That is their opinion, and you have yours.
This thread is one giant contradiction. On one hand opinions are super great and nobody has the right to tell you that you claiming fall out boy are the best evar is wrong. But on the other hand, anyone who says they suck is a hater and an elitist who does not deserve an opinion.
I won't even bother to tell you why they stink so much, obviously you just won't accept opinions even though this thread is only your opinion.club-sandwichI never used my opinion to say they were good. I just said it's my opinion against yours and I like FOB more than you like your favourite band...
Which would actually mean zip when it comes to the entertainment level of any music. One doesn't need understand musical terms to appreciate music....;)SolidSnake is looking for evidence. Pianist is probably the one person who can most ably provide it.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"]Wouldn't it be great if Pianist waltzed in and dropped a technical analysis?A_Tarkovsky
Though I agree with you in general terms. But Fall Out Boy is as dull as music gets to me.
Depends on what he means by better. And again....technical doesn't actually provide that. Music is...or at least should be....about more than the technical aspects. Ygnwie Malmsteen is quite proficient and technical in his music...yet it lacks emotion and leaves one empty. Pianist has his opinons...as do others.Missed your last line....I'm not a fan either. Though I don't bash them.
Though I agree with you in general terms. But Fall Out Boy is as dull as music gets to me.
A_Tarkovsky
That's exactly it, for me. Dull. I listen to it and just feel nothing but contempt or indifference. I think they appeal mostly to young teengers, though i could be wrong. The only fans i've ever come across where all in the 13-16 bracket. Perhaps it's an age thing.
In my eyes FOB is a joke and should be destroyed, but people have the right to listen to this band at their own free will. But saying that they are better than any user's fav band is retarded. They are nothing more than a stupid cheap poppy manufactured mainstream band thats easy on the ears and for all the masses, I need more than just that. Did you made this thread because simply you are tired of the constant crap that goes against FOB? If so they deserve it, whatever possessed god and heaven to make a band like FOB anyways. The doctors should of just choked those would be FOB guys with their own cords when they were born.
[QUOTE="club-sandwich"]I won't even bother to tell you why they stink so much, obviously you just won't accept opinions even though this thread is only your opinion.SolidSnake35I never used my opinion to say they were good. I just said it's my opinion against yours and I like FOB more than you like your favourite band... You have no way of knowing that.
[QUOTE="club-sandwich"]I won't even bother to tell you why they stink so much, obviously you just won't accept opinions even though this thread is only your opinion.SolidSnake35I never used my opinion to say they were good. I just said it's my opinion against yours and I like FOB more than you like your favourite band...
no, you used your opinion to say they were better than our favorite bands, whih automatically implies that you believe them to be the best band ever.
This thread is one giant contradiction. On one hand opinions are super great and nobody has the right to tell you that you claiming fall out boy are the best evar is wrong. But on the other hand, anyone who says they suck is a hater and an elitist who does not deserve an opinion. Ninja-HippoI know but they started it. If I have to lower myself to everyone else's level... so be it.
I hope it pains most of you that your favourite band will never reach their level of superiority, save for in your own mind. If you can't provide any evidence to suggest that FOB aren't awesome, besides your own opinion based, elitist waffle, then you can spare us from your boring hate on them from this point forth. It's my opinion against yours and I'll be damned if you think more highly of your favourite band than I do. As such, you lose. ^_^SolidSnake35
Fall Out Boy are an awful band. and I mean really bad.
I have as much right to make this thread as poster number 945 does to say "oh em gee, they suck". I've tried ignoring it but, frankly, this way is more amusing.[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Most people simply dont think they're any good. I'm the only person out of everyone i know (in real life) who loves Beck, but i dont try to force it on others, or tell people they're wrong when they hate his latest song. Life doesn't work that way.Ninja-Hippo
It is a fact that you cannot preach about the subjectivity of opinions, when you too do the very thing you're supposedly against; putting down other opinions as inferior or incorrect in comparison to your own.
If somebody says fall out boy suck, you should know that that is their opinion. There is no need for a rebuttal. No need for you to call them a hater or an elitist. And no need to say that they are wrong. That is their opinion, and you have yours.
This thread is one giant contradiction. On one hand opinions are super great and nobody has the right to tell you that you claiming fall out boy are the best evar is wrong. But on the other hand, anyone who says they suck is a hater and an elitist who does not deserve an opinion.
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I know but they started it. If I have to lower myself to everyone else's level... so be it.SolidSnake35
Nope....don't ever lower yourself. Why do you care if others like your favorite band? Enjoy what you like.
I never used my opinion to say they were good. I just said it's my opinion against yours and I like FOB more than you like your favourite band...[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="club-sandwich"]I won't even bother to tell you why they stink so much, obviously you just won't accept opinions even though this thread is only your opinion.big_old_tom
no, you used your opinion to say they were better than our favorite bands, whih automatically implies that you believe them to be the best band ever.
I do believe that. Care to disagree without using opinions? That's my entire point. You have nothing but opinions and neither do I. Because of this, it's down to whoever prefers their band more. I therefore, quite clearly, said that I like FOB more. Prove me wrong there and I'll concede.Please Log In to post.
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