Fast food workers go on strike

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="thegerg"]You seem to be confused. I am not greedy. I pay my employees what their labor is worth at a wage to which we agree. Another $80 a month may not put us out of business, but am extra $80 a month (it would be much more than that if MW was increased to $10 or$15) multiplied by all MW employees mightWhiteKnight77

You seem to be confused. You are greedy, its a shame that people like you exist, if you can't even afford to pay 5% over the minimum wage you are for the lack of a better word: trash

I am going to ask you the same question I asked bigfootnumbers (that he still hasn't answered), would you pay $10 for a cheeseburger or $20 for a gallon of gas?

where to these numbers come from? a cheese burger where I come from costs 2 euro or less, how would increasing the worker's wages from 7.25 to say... 8 dollars would increase the price of a burger five times?

[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="rilpas"]

you seem very confused, becase your comments were very racist, insulting against the TOS

rilpas

you made a slavery comment towards the black etnicity, which is very much racist. You seem to be confused.

ahem:

'Just because you think we should reenslave black people to wash dishes for free'

how is this not a racist comment?

rilpas

Because he made no mention of one race being superior to the other. He spoke of someone wanting to enslave someone else.

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

So if I type the word slavery I'm racist? Great logic.

thegerg

ahem:

'Just because you think we should reenslave black people to wash dishes for free'

how is this not a racist comment?

damn, you're just one awesome guy, aren't you?

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

ahem:

'Just because you think we should reenslave black people to wash dishes for free'

how is this not a racist comment?

airshocker

Because he made no mention of one race being superior to the other. He spoke of someone wanting to enslave someone else.

so why add that the person should be black? was the 'black' reference needed?

so why add that the person should be black?

rilpas

Because black people were previously enslaved in American history...

Is that news to you?

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

so why add that the person should be black?

airshocker

Because black people were previously enslaved in American history...

Is that news to you?

so what exactly was the point of his post? that if a dishwasher's salary is raised too high we should go back to enslaving people? Black people specifically?

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="thegerg"] Because that comment, in no way, insinuates that the poster feels that one race is superior to another. Do you know what the word "racist" means?thegerg

damn, you're just one awesome guy, aren't you?

yes, I know I'm awesome, thank you :)

so what exactly was the point of his post? that if a dishwasher's salary is raised too high we should go back to enslaving people? Black people specifically?

rilpas

Why are you asking me that? I'm not thegerg. All I'm pointing out is his statement wasn't racist.

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

Because he made no mention of one race being superior to the other. He spoke of someone wanting to enslave someone else.

thegerg

so why add that the person should be black? was the 'black' reference needed?

so someone calls you greedy (which you most definately are)

and your reply is 'Well at least I don't want to enslave black people like you' :|

How the hell did black people get dragged into a convo about a fast food strikeBucked20

This guy brought black people up without me saying anything. I simply wrote down a fair assesment of his comment and he brought up enslaving black people out of no where.

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

You seem to be confused. You are greedy, its a shame that people like you exist, if you can't even afford to pay 5% over the minimum wage you are for the lack of a better word: trash

rilpas

I am going to ask you the same question I asked bigfootnumbers (that he still hasn't answered), would you pay $10 for a cheeseburger or $20 for a gallon of gas?

where to these numbers come from? a cheese burger where I come from costs 2 euro or less, how would increasing the worker's wages from 7.25 to say... 8 dollars would increase the price of a burger five times?

As it seems that you have not completely read this thread or are up on the story, those striking fast food workers want to double what they are making, not just a measley 75 cents. When you double the wage, prices have to rise somewhere and the what is being sold will increase in price and double the price of a burger will not cover said wages. Answer the question, would you pay that much for a burger?

This thread went down the drain when racism was once again bought about, as if nobody on this planet has negative feelings about at least one group of people or another.

No, you are.thegerg

[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]What, because I think it's wrong to exploit employees? Business owners don't build businesses, the workers do. Without workers, businesses would collapse. Obama was absolutely right with his "you didn't build that" line.

If I ran a business, it would be a democracy, and everyone would make the same wage. We don't put up with tyranny in our government, so why do we tolerate it at work?

chilly-chill

It's called hard work, taking enormous risks and earning every cent, don't try and bring that bs here.

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

I am going to ask you the same question I asked bigfootnumbers (that he still hasn't answered), would you pay $10 for a cheeseburger or $20 for a gallon of gas?

WhiteKnight77

where to these numbers come from? a cheese burger where I come from costs 2 euro or less, how would increasing the worker's wages from 7.25 to say... 8 dollars would increase the price of a burger five times?

As it seems that you have not completely read this thread or are up on the story, those striking fast food workers want to double what they are making, not just a measley 75 cents. When you double the wage, prices have to rise somewhere and the what is being sold will increase in price and double the price of a burger will not cover said wages. Answer the question, would you pay that much for a burger?

Ah in that regards I agree with you, though I think they should receive higher wages, I don't think they should be payed double.

Though, as someone who has witnessed strikes before (though as an accountant I'm usually on the greedy ceo's side) I can tell that most like the number they chose is simply meant to pressure their bosses and draw attention, the REAL number they're aiming for is likely much lower

I'm guessing a 20-30% increase.

And to answer your question, would I be okay with going from say... a 2 euro chesse burguer to a cheese burguer costing 2.6 euro? absolutely

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

[QUOTE="Bucked20"]How the hell did black people get dragged into a convo about a fast food strikethegerg

This guy brought black people up without me saying anything. I simply wrote down a fair assesment of his comment and he brought up enslaving black people out of no where.

[QUOTE="chilly-chill"]

[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]What, because I think it's wrong to exploit employees? Business owners don't build businesses, the workers do. Without workers, businesses would collapse. Obama was absolutely right with his "you didn't build that" line.

If I ran a business, it would be a democracy, and everyone would make the same wage. We don't put up with tyranny in our government, so why do we tolerate it at work?

chilly-chill

It's called hard work, taking enormous risks and earning every cent, don't try and bring that bs here.

Yeah, and left questions unanswered too. It might be a combination of both or neither as to why he hasn't posted or answered the questions.

[QUOTE="rilpas"][QUOTE="thegerg"] Cool, me too. But I was pointing out that you're racist and greedy.thegerg

If people working at a grocery store demanded a 10% increase in their wages I think it'd be fine

10% extra is a fair number and wouldn't kill me.

The point of the matter isn't whether an increase of the minimum wage would hurt you specifically. Some labor isn't worth that much, and to arbitrarily increase it would do more harm than good.

So do we at least agree that there's room for wage improvement in the fast food industry? the gerg I'm sorry if I made a false accusation, but the proper thing to do is to state why what I said was false, not make outlandish statements that might come accross as racially insensitive to someone who's ethnic backround you know nothing of.

I hear those laves drive pretty well.

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="thegerg"] You accused me of thinking something which I do not, and I did the same to you. Don't play so innocent. thegerg

except I mathematically proved you are a slave driver

have fun proving I'm a child rapist

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="thegerg"] Not necessarily. I do those things, and I am neither greedy or racist. Maybe you should look up what the word "racist" means, You still don't seem to grasp that one at all. Let me ask you a question, if you don't mind. I just want to gauge your level of greed. Let's say that you go to the grocery store and your total at the register is $45.78. How much do you pay for your groceries? 5% more? 10% more?thegerg

If people working at a grocery store demanded a 10% increase in their wages I think it'd be fine

10% extra is a fair number and wouldn't kill me.

already did :|

maybe you should try to learn howto read?

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="thegerg"] I was simply responding your your claim that I am a lave driver. It looks like you lost this argument first by that clever move.thegerg

except I mathematically proved you are a slave driver

have fun proving I'm a child rapist

sure I did, you just seem to be very confused

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="thegerg"] Please try to answer the question. How much more do you pay than you are required?thegerg

already did :|

maybe you should try to learn howto read?

you seem to be very confused, I said I'd pay 10% extra

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="thegerg"] No, you have proved no such thing. You seem to be very confused. thegerg

sure I did, you just seem to be very confused

you seem to be very confused, slave driver

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="thegerg"] No, you didn't. You said that you'd pay more if employees demanded more. You have not said how much more than your required total you already pay. Please try to answer the question.thegerg

you seem to be very confused, I said I'd pay 10% extra

who said I was demanded anything? 10% is a fair price for me for just about everything, it's a fair number when I pay more for something it's usually my go to percentage

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

As it seems that you have not completely read this thread or are up on the story, those striking fast food workers want to double what they are making, not just a measley 75 cents. When you double the wage, prices have to rise somewhere and the what is being sold will increase in price and double the price of a burger will not cover said wages. Answer the question, would you pay that much for a burger?

rilpas

Ah in that regards I agree with you, though I think they should receive higher wages, I don't think they should be payed double.

Though, as someone who has witnessed strikes before (though as an accountant I'm usually on the greedy ceo's side) I can tell that most like the number they chose is simply meant to pressure their bosses and draw attention, the REAL number they're aiming for is likely much lower

I'm guessing a 20-30% increase.

And to answer your question, would I be okay with going from say... a 2 euro chesse burguer to a cheese burguer costing 2.6 euro? absolutely

The problem with increasing pay, and as an accountant, you should see that an increase in wages means an increase in the cost of a product. It isn't McDonald's paying those wages, it is Greg Fisher Foods of Pasternak NJ (fictitious franchise name and city) paying those wages and probably making a very slim profit a year (maybe 6% for fast food joints). Increase the price of a product, and fewer people buy said product, thus decreasing an already slim profit margin (and a business should make at least a 15% if not more).

The Average Profit Margin for a Restaurant details much about different types of restaurants.

Giving people more than $8 an hour for working in a fast food joint is nothing but retail suicide.

I also try to avoid low quailty food places whenever I can because I know the workers don't really want to be there and it's just a paycheck (meager one at that) to them. IF you go to places like In and Out (where even the bottom person makes 11.00 an hour) you can get great tasting food that is reasonably priced and the workers are all friendly and upbeat!

I also try to avoid low quailty food places whenever I can because I know the workers don't really want to be there and it's just a paycheck (meager one at that) to them. IF you go to places like In and Out (where even the bottom person makes 11.00 an hour) you can get great tasting food that is reasonably priced and the workers are all friendly and upbeat!

Yusuke420

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="thegerg"] I know you did. Now, how much more do you pay? I'm not asking how much more you'd pay if more was demanded from you, but how much more you pay anyway.thegerg

who said I was demanded anything? 10% is a fair price for me for just about everything, it's a fair number when I pay more for something it's usually my go to percentage

again: 10%

already told you three times: 10%

I give a 10% tip

it's my go-to thing 10%

get it? 10%

is that sinking in yet?

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

As it seems that you have not completely read this thread or are up on the story, those striking fast food workers want to double what they are making, not just a measley 75 cents. When you double the wage, prices have to rise somewhere and the what is being sold will increase in price and double the price of a burger will not cover said wages. Answer the question, would you pay that much for a burger?

WhiteKnight77

Ah in that regards I agree with you, though I think they should receive higher wages, I don't think they should be payed double.

Though, as someone who has witnessed strikes before (though as an accountant I'm usually on the greedy ceo's side) I can tell that most like the number they chose is simply meant to pressure their bosses and draw attention, the REAL number they're aiming for is likely much lower

I'm guessing a 20-30% increase.

And to answer your question, would I be okay with going from say... a 2 euro chesse burguer to a cheese burguer costing 2.6 euro? absolutely

The problem with increasing pay, and as an accountant, you should see that an increase in wages means an increase in the cost of a product. It isn't McDonald's paying those wages, it is Greg Fisher Foods of Pasternak NJ (fictitious franchise name and city) paying those wages and probably making a very slim profit a year (maybe 6% for fast food joints). Increase the price of a product, and fewer people buy said product, thus decreasing an already slim profit margin (and a business should make at least a 15% if not more).

The Average Profit Margin for a Restaurant details much about different types of restaurants.

Giving people more than $8 an hour for working in a fast food joint is nothing but retail suicide.

No offense, but your theory is flawed, alright, so restaurants have an 8% margin, but how much of that are the wages? a lot of it could be from renting the place, or food costs, health and safety costs, insurance, etc.

you're going off in a tangent with data that you don't have