Fast food workers go on strike

I'm not the person, I was just making up a purely fictional character (I appreciate the post count shout out though!). So basically our arguement is "bootstraps" I'm so tired of hearing this because it makes it seem like people that work in low wage jobs are just too lazy! I have worked in retail for five years and while I don't make the minimum, I do feel that I'm worth way more in both wage and resposibility, but for some reason, even though I work hard and have been employee of the month twice, I can't seem to get promoted. I live in TX and the only one other person that works for this company of my race is a delivery driver (not talking down to him but management he's not). I think it has to do with race, but you'd suggest it due to my lack of effort? PLEASE!

[QUOTE="Socialist696"][QUOTE="rilpas"]

what ignorant remarks are those? that you work hard and two jobs for a below average salary while still supporting a kid? 'kay

Socialist696

ah, that lovely bitterness. I'm guessing I hit a nerve? maybe you should have studied instead at working at macdonalds, oh I mean telemarketing, sorry, I get the two mixed up, low social status and all

I'm not the person, I was just making up a purely fictional character (I appreciate the post count shout out though!). So basically our arguement is "bootstraps" I'm so tired of hearing this because it makes it seem like people that work in low wage jobs are just too lazy! I have worked in retail for five years and while I don't make the minimum, I do feel that I'm worth way more in both wage and resposibility, but for some reason, even though I work hard and have been employee of the month twice, I can't seem to get promoted. I live in TX and the only one other person that works for this company of my race is a delivery driver (not talking down to him but management he's not). I think it has to do with race, but you'd suggest it due to my lack of effort? PLEASE!

Yusuke420

exactly, I've always hated the idea that people work on low income jobs 'deserve their fate' and whatnot, though, it's nice to see how quickly the tables turn on that socialist guy, lol

Not only is he not serious, he's a troll of the highest order! I'm very offended as a black person that you would make such a comment.

Yusuke420

Aren't you the one who thinks CEOs are the owners of coporations?

[QUOTE="Socialist696"][QUOTE="rilpas"]

what ignorant remarks are those? that you work hard and two jobs for a below average salary while still supporting a kid? 'kay

rilpas

I said it before in this thread, I'm an accountant, I'm glad I got here, but in the end I'm well aware there are people less fortunate me, the difference between you and me is that I don't laugh or scold those who earn less then me I don't go "lulz u work at macdonalds"

I have to say though, it's interesting you're probably the most bitter 21 year old I've ever met.

An accountant? CONGRATULATIONS, Im not about to say you aren't doing well. How old are you and where do you live and do you live alone yet? And if you reread my posts, you'd see I didn't say "lulz you work at mcdonalds" i said stop complaining about the minimum wage if thats all you aspired to do or have messed up and landed stuck there. Theres a difference.Socialist696

I don't see the difference, everyone gets dealt different cards, it doesn't give you the right to be an ass.

and to answer your question: I live alone and I'm 25

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

I'm not the person, I was just making up a purely fictional character (I appreciate the post count shout out though!). So basically our arguement is "bootstraps" I'm so tired of hearing this because it makes it seem like people that work in low wage jobs are just too lazy! I have worked in retail for five years and while I don't make the minimum, I do feel that I'm worth way more in both wage and resposibility, but for some reason, even though I work hard and have been employee of the month twice, I can't seem to get promoted. I live in TX and the only one other person that works for this company of my race is a delivery driver (not talking down to him but management he's not). I think it has to do with race, but you'd suggest it due to my lack of effort? PLEASE!

rilpas

exactly, I've always hated the idea that people work on low income jobs 'deserve their fate' and whatnot, though, it's nice to see how quickly the tables turn on that socialist guy, lol

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

I'm not the person, I was just making up a purely fictional character (I appreciate the post count shout out though!). So basically our arguement is "bootstraps" I'm so tired of hearing this because it makes it seem like people that work in low wage jobs are just too lazy! I have worked in retail for five years and while I don't make the minimum, I do feel that I'm worth way more in both wage and resposibility, but for some reason, even though I work hard and have been employee of the month twice, I can't seem to get promoted. I live in TX and the only one other person that works for this company of my race is a delivery driver (not talking down to him but management he's not). I think it has to do with race, but you'd suggest it due to my lack of effort? PLEASE!

Socialist696

exactly, I've always hated the idea that people work on low income jobs 'deserve their fate' and whatnot, though, it's nice to see how quickly the tables turn on that socialist guy, lol

shouldn't you be answering phones? go do your job

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

Not only is he not serious, he's a troll of the highest order! I'm very offended as a black person that you would make such a comment.

SpartanMSU

Aren't you the one who thinks CEOs are the owners of coporations?

[QUOTE="Socialist696"]An accountant? CONGRATULATIONS, Im not about to say you aren't doing well. How old are you and where do you live and do you live alone yet? And if you reread my posts, you'd see I didn't say "lulz you work at mcdonalds" i said stop complaining about the minimum wage if thats all you aspired to do or have messed up and landed stuck there. Theres a difference.rilpas

I don't see the difference, everyone gets dealt different cards, it doesn't give you the right to be an ass.

and to answer your question: I live alone and I'm 25

exactly, I've always hated the idea that people work on low income jobs 'deserve their fate' and whatnot, though, it's nice to see how quickly the tables turn on that socialist guy, lol

rilpas

Actually it does. Because not only have I heard this before, all the people that have spoken like this have done something to deserve it. They dropped out, got convicted of crimes, other BS, or are just lazy. I've worked many jobs with many different kinds of people, and too me honestly everyone has this sob story and theres always a reason they don't say for it.Socialist696

lol, dude, you're 21, stop pretending you've led a full life, hell, you're just starting out

[QUOTE="Socialist696"][QUOTE="rilpas"]

exactly, I've always hated the idea that people work on low income jobs 'deserve their fate' and whatnot, though, it's nice to see how quickly the tables turn on that socialist guy, lol

rilpas

shouldn't you be answering phones? go do your job

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

exactly, I've always hated the idea that people work on low income jobs 'deserve their fate' and whatnot, though, it's nice to see how quickly the tables turn on that socialist guy, lol

MrGeezer

agreed, that person should go out and find a better fate for him/herself.

But I'm still not going to be an ass to that person, I was raised to believe in alien notions such as common courtesy, do on to others, etc. etc.

of course I was also raised on: give only as good as you get :P

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="Socialist696"] What tables? The only ones speaking against me are the two I'm targeting. I doubt thats tables turned. And Yusuke, pulling the race card? Nice excuse.Socialist696

shouldn't you be answering phones? go do your job

luckilly I can afford to be immature

[QUOTE="Socialist696"] Actually it does. Because not only have I heard this before, all the people that have spoken like this have done something to deserve it. They dropped out, got convicted of crimes, other BS, or are just lazy. I've worked many jobs with many different kinds of people, and too me honestly everyone has this sob story and theres always a reason they don't say for it.rilpas

lol, dude, you're 21, stop pretending you've led a full life, hell, you're just starting out

Employee of the month twice and always complemented by the customers, but I'm training some guy that just came to the department form being a cashier? Yeah, I'm sure I'm just not working hard enough:roll:

You're 25. Stop talking like you've led a full life when you're only a slight bit older.Socialist696

That's just it, I'm not, I'm not being an ass to people just because they got caught up in crappy job

For an accountant, you sure are immature. You're smart enough to be a accountant, but not smart enough to talk down to callcenter op and make it hurt? Fail.Socialist696

I don't see how any are related, as I said before, I can afford to be immature, I can't help it if I've rustled your jimmies

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

Not only is he not serious, he's a troll of the highest order! I'm very offended as a black person that you would make such a comment.

Yusuke420

Aren't you the one who thinks CEOs are the owners of coporations?

Yes, in another thread you said something to the extent of CEOs should take less of the profits or something like that. And:lol: to the second part. You're clueless buddy.

But I'm still not going to be an ass to that person, I was raised to believe in alien notions such as common courtesy, do on to others, etc. etc. of course I was also raised on: give only as good as you get :Prilpas

[QUOTE="rilpas"]But I'm still not going to be an ass to that person, I was raised to believe in alien notions such as common courtesy, do on to others, etc. etc. of course I was also raised on: give only as good as you get :PMrGeezer

very true, which is why I sympathize with the a lot of folk down on their luck.

though that may come from my grandparents' backgrounds as they were both farmers, the poor kind not, the rich kind :P

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

A 10% increase would not even bring it to $8 an hour.

MrGeezer

You are not going to get any argument out of me. Yes, the minimum wage could use a bump to help with inflation, yet, it should not be that which would put people out of work or close businesses (I alluded to this in the thread about raising the minimum wage to $20, though I said it in a very radical way, who knew a conservative could be radical?).

I have no problem with trying to help people better themselves if they want to better themselves and programs to do that like Georgia Works is a good thing, the only problem is, you have to be unemployed to use said program, something that even low wage earners cannot use. I learned about Georgia Works the year I was out of work in 2005. Neat program as one finds a prospective employer to "hire" them while they learn job skills without the employer having to pay any wages with the employer being able to hire said employee after a set period of time. The "unemployed worker" draws their regular unemployment insurance check during said time. The only caveat is, you have to have enough time left on unemployment to be able to use said program.

Still, someone employed can take classes at the local technical or community college to learn a new trade or career. If someone really wants something bad enough, they will make time, if they are not willing to better themselves so they can get a higher paying job, screw them, they can suffer with the low wages that they are making. Give up some of those nonnecessary things like cable TV or internet (public libraries have internet paid for by taxpayers that you can use). Take a bus instead of driving a car (at least if you live in an area with good public transportation as they do in New York City where this strike is going on) and do not start a family. If you can't wrap that thing or keep your legs shut or at least take a pill so as to not have kids, then it's your own fault for your predicament. Do not expect someone to pay you more just because you cannot make ends meet with the job you currently have.

[QUOTE="Socialist696"][QUOTE="rilpas"]

what ignorant remarks are those? that you work hard and two jobs for a below average salary while still supporting a kid? 'kay

rilpas

I said it before in this thread, I'm an accountant, I'm glad I got here, but in the end I'm well aware there are people less fortunate me, the difference between you and me is that I don't laugh or scold those who earn less then me I don't go "lulz u work at macdonalds"

I have to say though, it's interesting you're probably the most bitter 21 year old I've ever met.

Based on your posts, there's no way your anything more than a book keeper. Especially you're idiotic fixed costs comment. You think the fast food industry has higher fixed costs compared to other industries?

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="Socialist696"] Yes, those ignorant remarks considering I live in FL and if you can even find a minimum wage job out here, you're considered lucky. I suppose you have more to hold your head high about at the end of the day than me? What job do you work, what responsibilities do you have? Id really like to know since youre talking so poorly of an honest hardworking father.SpartanMSU

I said it before in this thread, I'm an accountant, I'm glad I got here, but in the end I'm well aware there are people less fortunate me, the difference between you and me is that I don't laugh or scold those who earn less then me I don't go "lulz u work at macdonalds"

I have to say though, it's interesting you're probably the most bitter 21 year old I've ever met.

Based on your posts, there's no way your anything more than a book keeper. Especially you're idiotic fixed costs comment. You think the fast food industry has higher fixed costs compared to other industries?

book keeper? the US still has those? We've stopped using those at least 40 years ago

and I honestly could not care less what you believe in, weren't you the one who linked me to a post that said that the wages only accounted for 29% of total costs? lol

Am I wrong in saying corporations are own by their shareholders?

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="rilpas"]

I said it before in this thread, I'm an accountant, I'm glad I got here, but in the end I'm well aware there are people less fortunate me, the difference between you and me is that I don't laugh or scold those who earn less then me I don't go "lulz u work at macdonalds"

I have to say though, it's interesting you're probably the most bitter 21 year old I've ever met.

rilpas

Based on your posts, there's no way your anything more than a book keeper. Especially you're idiotic fixed costs comment. You think the fast food industry has higher fixed costs compared to other industries?

book keeper? the US still has those? We've stopped using those at least 40 years ago

and I honestly could not care less what you believe in, weren't you the one who linked me to a post that said that the wages only accounted for 29% of total costs? lol

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Based on your posts, there's no way your anything more than a book keeper. Especially you're idiotic fixed costs comment. You think the fast food industry has higher fixed costs compared to other industries?

Legatus_Victix

book keeper? the US still has those? We've stopped using those at least 40 years ago

and I honestly could not care less what you believe in, weren't you the one who linked me to a post that said that the wages only accounted for 29% of total costs? lol

Anything meaningful to contribute or...?

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

I said it before in this thread, I'm an accountant, I'm glad I got here, but in the end I'm well aware there are people less fortunate me, the difference between you and me is that I don't laugh or scold those who earn less then me I don't go "lulz u work at macdonalds"

I have to say though, it's interesting you're probably the most bitter 21 year old I've ever met.

rilpas

Based on your posts, there's no way your anything more than a book keeper. Especially you're idiotic fixed costs comment. You think the fast food industry has higher fixed costs compared to other industries?

book keeper? the US still has those? We've stopped using those at least 40 years ago

and I honestly could not care less what you believe in, weren't you the one who linked me to a post that said that the wages only accounted for 29% of total costs? lol

You're a book keeper accountant buddy. You probably work for some retail firm doing very basic accounting, especially since they're promoting a cashier to an accounting position. No way in hell you have your CPA.

And to the second part, no. That wasn't me. But it's hilarious how you think fixed costs are whats crucial for a fast food franchise store.

book keeper? the US still has those? We've stopped using those at least 40 years ago

and I honestly could not care less what you believe in, weren't you the one who linked me to a post that said that the wages only accounted for 29% of total costs? lol

Yusuke420

Anything meaningful to contribute or...?

[QUOTE="Socialist696"]I just proved I'm independant and a hard worker who puts food on his wife and daughters table so they can have a good life. I work everyday to support them, have this internet I'm using, this computer I'm on, and more. So please, take your ignorant remarks back before I laugh at you any harder for even trying me on this one.rilpas

what ignorant remarks are those? that you work hard and two jobs for a below average salary while still supporting a kid? 'kay

I can't believe that you are an accountant any more. If you bothered to do the math, you can see that that 21 year old is making abut $48,000 a year, before taxes. Not exactly chump change. He is working to have a good life, even if it takes working 7 days a week (I often work 7 days a week too, but all year).

You're a book keeper accountant buddy. You probably work for some retail firm doing very basic accounting, especially since they're promoting a cashier to an accounting position. No way in hell you have your CPA.SpartanMSU

I'm guessing someone is mad, what's wrong? did you google for a way to bash an accountant?

seriously though, when you have a real argument, come back to me

And to the second part, no. That wasn't me. But it's hilarious how you think fixed costs are whats crucial for a fast food franchise store.

SpartanMSU

exactly, so why would a small increase in fixed costs kill macdonalds? See how you just proved my point?

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

You're a book keeper accountant buddy. You probably work for some retail firm doing very basic accounting, especially since they're promoting a cashier to an accounting position. No way in hell you have your CPA.rilpas

I'm guessing someone is mad, what's wrong? did you google for a way to bash an accountant?

seriously though, when you have a real argument, come back to me

And to the second part, no. That wasn't me. But it's hilarious how you think fixed costs are whats crucial for a fast food franchise store.

SpartanMSU

exactly, so why would a small increase in fixed costs kill macdonalds? See how you just proved my point?

I don't pretend to know about things, and I'm not versed in this economical talk as much to contribute. Thats most likely the difference between those who just read and laugh about peoples views like me, and people like you who play at it and are laughed at. I only stepped in because it really just grows old watching you go back and forth with these RIDICULOUS posts.Legatus_Victix

again: still waiting for a contribution, I've seen a lot of ad hominem, but no real argument ;)

I can't believe that you are an accountant any more. If you bothered to do the math, you can see that that 21 year old is making abut $48,000 a year, before taxes. Not exactly chump change. He is working to have a good life, even if it takes working 7 days a week (I often work 7 days a week too, but all year).

WhiteKnight77

Good for him, still doesn't mean he should be an ass for those that are worse off

I never knew there were so many people here so against people getting more then minimum wage. If In and Out can afford 11+ dollars an hour why can't the bigger places?

Maybe you should google a way to bash a callcenter op, because you're too preoccupied with gloating about your accountant status now to come up with any meaningful defense. And, if I may add, look how the tables have turned on Yusuke and Rilpas. Night guys, I'm getting off. I got better things to do than read this garbage all night lol.Socialist696

lol, someone's mad :lol:

[QUOTE="Legatus_Victix"]I don't pretend to know about things, and I'm not versed in this economical talk as much to contribute. Thats most likely the difference between those who just read and laugh about peoples views like me, and people like you who play at it and are laughed at. I only stepped in because it really just grows old watching you go back and forth with these RIDICULOUS posts.rilpas

again: still waiting for a contribution, I've seen a lot of ad hominem, but no real argument ;)

I can't believe that you are an accountant any more. If you bothered to do the math, you can see that that 21 year old is making abut $48,000 a year, before taxes. Not exactly chump change. He is working to have a good life, even if it takes working 7 days a week (I often work 7 days a week too, but all year).

WhiteKnight77

Good for him, still doesn't mean he should be an ass for those that are worse off

I never knew there were so many people here so against people getting more then minimum wage. Yusuke420

[QUOTE="Socialist696"] Maybe you should google a way to bash a callcenter op, because you're too preoccupied with gloating about your accountant status now to come up with any meaningful defense. And, if I may add, look how the tables have turned on Yusuke and Rilpas. Night guys, I'm getting off. I got better things to do than read this garbage all night lol.rilpas

lol, someone's mad :lol:

I don't see the need to argue with those I see beneath me, unlike you. Enough said.Legatus_Victix

so come to this thread to argue with me

then say you don't want to argue with me?

inconsistent little thing, aren't you?

[QUOTE="Legatus_Victix"]I don't pretend to know about things, and I'm not versed in this economical talk as much to contribute. Thats most likely the difference between those who just read and laugh about peoples views like me, and people like you who play at it and are laughed at. I only stepped in because it really just grows old watching you go back and forth with these RIDICULOUS posts.rilpas

again: still waiting for a contribution, I've seen a lot of ad hominem, but no real argument ;)

I can't believe that you are an accountant any more. If you bothered to do the math, you can see that that 21 year old is making abut $48,000 a year, before taxes. Not exactly chump change. He is working to have a good life, even if it takes working 7 days a week (I often work 7 days a week too, but all year).

WhiteKnight77

Good for him, still doesn't mean he should be an ass for those that are worse off

That should be not all year. Working more than 3 months 7 days a week is killer and makes one really tired and safety gets lax.

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="Socialist696"] Maybe you should google a way to bash a callcenter op, because you're too preoccupied with gloating about your accountant status now to come up with any meaningful defense. And, if I may add, look how the tables have turned on Yusuke and Rilpas. Night guys, I'm getting off. I got better things to do than read this garbage all night lol.Legatus_Victix

lol, someone's mad :lol:

I thought you said you were done?

seems you talk a bigger game then you actually have

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

I never knew there were so many people here so against people getting more then minimum wage. rilpas

That should be not all year. Working more than 3 months 7 days a week is killer and makes one really tired and safety gets lax.

WhiteKnight77

okay, not being an ass here, but I didn't understand what you mean, English is a second language to me, could you re-word your post?

[QUOTE="rilpas"][QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

I never knew there were so many people here so against people getting more then minimum wage. Legatus_Victix

still at it I see. I'm guessing I struck a nerve

[QUOTE="Legatus_Victix"][QUOTE="rilpas"] well, judging by people like socialist, whiteknight and that victix guy, they need something to feel better about themselves *shrugs*

rilpas

still at it I see. I'm guessing I struck a nerve

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

I never knew there were so many people here so against people getting more then minimum wage. rilpas

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="Legatus_Victix"] And judging from big time accountants like Rilpas, they need to gloat on forums about their vast knowledge to feel better about themselves. I came to this thread because the subject interested me. At least it did until you started contributing.Legatus_Victix

still at it I see. I'm guessing I struck a nerve

your buthurt feeds my ego

[QUOTE="rilpas"][QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

I never knew there were so many people here so against people getting more then minimum wage. Yusuke420

I'm glad you're still studying, man.

I was actually lucky enough to not have to work while studying, so I can only imagine how much harder it is study for a degree when you also have to juggle a job

[QUOTE="Legatus_Victix"][QUOTE="rilpas"]

still at it I see. I'm guessing I struck a nerve

rilpas

your buthurt feeds my ego