Father On Trial For Torturing The Man Who Sexted His Underage Daughter

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#51 foxhound_fox
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Vigilante justice is almost never justified. Only in fiction can it really be justified to any reasonable extent. In the West, there is no excuse not to rely on the legal system toeventually get things done. It may not bring immediate respite, but it definitely doesn't help things to go about taking justice into your own hands.

The man was wrong. The extent of his power as a citizen is to perform a citizen's arrest. What he did went well beyond any line of "reasonable force" and he should be punished accordingly. The law is blind on a case-by-case basis. Just because the guy he assaulted did something wrong, doesn't mean the father's actions should be pardoned. It wouldn't be fair. That is the essence of "equality" within the eyes of the law.

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#52 worlock77
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The young man is quite the weirdo. As for the father, no comment.

bloodling

How is he a weirdo? Stupid perhaps, but weird? I don't think so.

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#53 bloodling
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[QUOTE="bloodling"]

The young man is quite the weirdo. As for the father, no comment.

worlock77

How is he a weirdo? Stupid perhaps, but weird? I don't think so.

You don't think it's weird for a 24 year-old to send such pictures to a 17 years old hoping to hook up with her?

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#54 needled24-7
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i think we can't make a proper judgement unless we see what the 17 year old girl looks like. some 17 year olds look several years older than 17, so if that's the case with this girl, then i don't think i'd blame the 24 year old for sexting her. the father deserves whatever sentence he gets (assuming he does get jail time, which he should).

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#55 T_P_O
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

The young man is quite the weirdo. As for the father, no comment.

bloodling

How is he a weirdo? Stupid perhaps, but weird? I don't think so.

You don't think it's weird for a 24 years old to send such pictures to a 17 years old hoping to hook up with her?

I don't think it's really that odd at all.
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#56 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="bloodling"]

The young man is quite the weirdo. As for the father, no comment.

bloodling

How is he a weirdo? Stupid perhaps, but weird? I don't think so.

You don't think it's weird for a 24 years old to send such pictures to a 17 years old hoping to hook up with her?

Well you do have a bit of a point there, but the age doesn't really have anything to do with it. That's weird at any age.

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#57 warownslife
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[QUOTE="bloodling"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

How is he a weirdo? Stupid perhaps, but weird? I don't think so.

T_P_O

You don't think it's weird for a 24 years old to send such pictures to a 17 years old hoping to hook up with her?

I don't think it's really that odd at all.

Me neither. My mom was 24 when my dad was 17. But they never sent pictures to each other. That part is weird.

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#58 needled24-7
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[QUOTE="T_P_O"][QUOTE="bloodling"]

You don't think it's weird for a 24 years old to send such pictures to a 17 years old hoping to hook up with her?

warownslife

I don't think it's really that odd at all.

Me neither. My mom was 24 when my dad was 17. But they never sent pictures to each other. That part is weird.

so your dad likes older women? ;)

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#59 MrGeezer
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Am I the only one who thinks that this was just a little bit ok? I mean, yeah the father did end up torturing someone and he should be justly punished by the law, but he was trying to protect his daughter. That's got to count for something.Acemaster27

No he wasn't. How did torturing the man PROTECT his daughter in any way? It didn't, pure and simple. He was simply getting back at the man.

And to those arguing whether or not the girl was old enough to have been a willing participant, that's irrelevant. The girl could have been 10 years old, and her father still could have had the dude arrested without anyone getting tortured.

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#60 bloodling
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[QUOTE="bloodling"]

You don't think it's weird for a 24 years old to send such pictures to a 17 years old hoping to hook up with her?

worlock77

Well you do have a bit of a point there, but the age doesn't really have anything to do with it. That's weird at any age.

That's true, but still if one of my friends told me they were dating a 17 year-old girl, I would frown and find it weird.

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#61 bloodling
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Me neither. My mom was 24 when my dad was 17. But they never sent pictures to each other. That part is weird.

warownslife

Same thing for my parents, but they didn't meet that early. That's what I find weird.

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#62 Empirefrtw
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This is tough w/o knowing the relationship between the daughter and the dude I mean it is pretty creepish if he sent that type of text to the daughter and they had nothing going on.

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#63 entropyecho
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This man can't be anymore father than this :PGazaAli

Well, he could have killed the guy.

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#64 weezyfb
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[QUOTE="wstfld"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="Acemaster27"]Am I the only one who thinks that this was just a little bit ok? I mean, yeah the father did end up torturing someone and he should be justly punished by the law, but he was trying to protect his daughter. That's got to count for something.

He should have just reported him to the police.

This.

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#65 Ninja-Hippo
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Jesus no that aint right. When the topic title said underage i was expecting like 14 or something. 17? She's a big girl. :?
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#66 KamuiFei
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Wow, that father is psycho. She's 17, not some little girl. Sexting is completely harmless between adults or young adults. Society puts too much emphasis on age instead of actual maturity. She knew what she was doing and thats her decision.

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#67 Empirefrtw
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Well it is true she might be a young adult but to the parent of the opposite sex they usually see that child as their little girl/boy for the rest of their lives.

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#68 GazaAli
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I don't know if I'm getting this right, She is 17 so its ok to receive pictures of his genitals? Assuming she received them against her well.
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#69 Empirefrtw
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I don't know if I'm getting this right, She is 17 so its ok to receive pictures of his genitals? Assuming she received them against her well.GazaAli
Yeah that is what I was saying I mean if there was nothing going on between these two and out of the blue he sent these pictures that is creeperish.
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#70 T_P_O
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I don't know if I'm getting this right, She is 17 so its ok to receive pictures of his genitals? Assuming she received them against her well.GazaAli
To be perfectly honest, I can't assume whether it was in accordance with her will or against her will.
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#71 KamuiFei
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"]I don't know if I'm getting this right, She is 17 so its ok to receive pictures of his genitals? Assuming she received them against her well.Empirefrtw
Yeah that is what I was saying I mean if there was nothing going on between these two and out of the blue he sent these pictures that is creeperish.

Well I'm under the assumption she did know about this guy sending those pics. Sorry I should've made that more clear :P But I'll agree, if she didn't even know the guy and he did that, then yea, thats a bit creepy. The headline didn't make that clear though.

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#72 awesomejdude
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Regardless, torturing somebody is not protecting his daughter. He was getting revenge, plain and simple. He obviously has quite a temper.

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#73 topsemag55
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Daughther is 17, she knew what she was doing. Her father was out of line. His behavior is borderline psychotic.

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Idk, shinian...Using the age formula, a 24-year-old guy can only date to 19.

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#74 TBoogy
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Given the daughter's age I'd say it wasn't justified at all. If she was 12 then maybe I'd understand a bit more, but the daughter's an adult.tofu-lion91
Yeah, the daughter is a little too old for that extreme. The man is not THAT much older. If he were older, and ESPECIALLY if the girl was younger, I would have a hard time not being sympathetic to his actions.
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#75 TBoogy
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I especially loved the part where he played the "I was afraid for my safety" card. That is what I am using if I ever have to kill someone...
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#76 worlock77
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I especially loved the part where he played the "I was afraid for my safety" card. That is what I am using if I ever have to kill someone...TBoogy

Re-read that. It was the man being tortured that said that, not the man doing the torturing.

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#77 PerfectCircles
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The father couldn't be more wrong. Anyone who supports what he did needs to get their head checked, torturing someone is never ok especially over something as trivial as sexting at the age of 17.
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#78 The_Last_Ride
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that is going a little far. He should go to jail
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#79 xhellcatx
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Hmm. As a parent, I would of course be upset about it, and can get why a father would act in such a way, as a fathers job is to protect. Its their natural instinct. However, it was a bit too far. He should have done something with his daughters cell phone - either take it away, or cut off the pic messages or text and pic messages all together... somethin.. and on top of it called the cops. *shrugs* Thats bout all he really should have done. But again, I can see why he did it. Oh, also, my daughter would so be grounded.
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#80 Mr_Cumberdale
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That father should get some kind of punishment. I can understand how he feels about his family, but he's overdoing it.
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#81 topsemag55
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Hmm. As a parent, I would of course be upset about it, and can get why a father would act in such a way, as a fathers job is to protect. Its their natural instinct. However, it was a bit too far. He should have done something with his daughters cell phone - either take it away, or cut off the pic messages or text and pic messages all together... somethin.. and on top of it called the cops. *shrugs* Thats bout all he really should have done. But again, I can see why he did it. Oh, also, my daughter would so be grounded. xhellcatx

Yup, the 24-year-old guy is too old...(24/2)+7=19 (not 17).

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#83 xhellcatx
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[QUOTE="xhellcatx"]Hmm. As a parent, I would of course be upset about it, and can get why a father would act in such a way, as a fathers job is to protect. Its their natural instinct. However, it was a bit too far. He should have done something with his daughters cell phone - either take it away, or cut off the pic messages or text and pic messages all together... somethin.. and on top of it called the cops. *shrugs* Thats bout all he really should have done. But again, I can see why he did it. Oh, also, my daughter would so be grounded. topsemag55

Yup, the 24-year-old guy is too old...(24/2)+7=19 (not 17).

I actually do kinda feel as if thats a bit too old.. at least for a 17 year old. After the 25 year old mark actually, then age gaps dont bug me too much - cause I firmly believe a persons personality isnt fully developed (a person doesnt really know themselves) until they are 25 ... unless other factors are in play - chemical imbalances etc.
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#84 Diablo-B
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Where did this happen because in most states/countries 17 is not underage as the topic misleadingly says. I hope the father is found guilty. If the 24 y/o broke the law then you tell the authorities, you don't take things in your own hands.
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#85 SgtKevali
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Well it happened in California, so lets use the law where the event occurred........Mafiree

Morality, not legality.

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#86 Cheesehead9099
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Now that's good parenting :roll:

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#87 VigilantEagle
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That dude is a psycho and should be thrown in jail.
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#88 Cheesehead9099
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That dude is a psycho and should be thrown in jail. VigilantEagle
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#89 GreySeal9
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LOL. I bet that dude will think twice before sexting another 17 year old girl. :lol:

Still, the father has issues. That is not the right way to handle that kind of situation.

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#90 Saturos3091
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This isn't even vigilante justice. What the guy did was pretty crazy.

He deserves it. It's not like she was an 10 year old child.

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#91 kidsmelly
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That's solid parenting.

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#92 JustPlainLucas
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It's sick what Justin did, but it in NO WAY deserved what the father did to him. Now... if he raped his daughter, I could see that... and maybe that's what the father was afraid the sexting would lead to, but still... you simply just go to the police right then and there.
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#93 Penguinchow
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I probably would've flipped out myself, but he took it way too far. What happened to just breaking his nose?
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#94 ownage_denied
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i think we can't make a proper judgement unless we see what the 17 year old girl looks like. some 17 year olds look several years older than 17, so if that's the case with this girl, then i don't think i'd blame the 24 year old for sexting her. the father deserves whatever sentence he gets (assuming he does get jail time, which he should).

needled24-7

I can't believe this is a serious post. How far are you willing to take that? Some 15 year olds look several years older also so would the penis pics be okay here too? A 24 year old going after girls 7 years younger than him is a pure PREDATOR.

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#95 T_P_O
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[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

i think we can't make a proper judgement unless we see what the 17 year old girl looks like. some 17 year olds look several years older than 17, so if that's the case with this girl, then i don't think i'd blame the 24 year old for sexting her. the father deserves whatever sentence he gets (assuming he does get jail time, which he should).

ownage_denied

I can't believe this is a serious post. How far are you willing to take that? Some 15 year olds look several years older also so would the penis pics be okay here too? A 24 year old going after girls 7 years younger than him is a pure PREDATOR.

Hey, if she looked hot, I'd be sexting her too.
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#96 bloodling
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Some people are so shallow.

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#97 ownage_denied
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

i think we can't make a proper judgement unless we see what the 17 year old girl looks like. some 17 year olds look several years older than 17, so if that's the case with this girl, then i don't think i'd blame the 24 year old for sexting her. the father deserves whatever sentence he gets (assuming he does get jail time, which he should).

T_P_O

I can't believe this is a serious post. How far are you willing to take that? Some 15 year olds look several years older also so would the penis pics be okay here too? A 24 year old going after girls 7 years younger than him is a pure PREDATOR.

Hey, if she looked hot, I'd be sexting her too.

How old are you? If you're the same age as the guy who got tortured how far would you take that "if she looked hot, I'd be sexting her too." Would you just throw age out the window and sext any girl you thought was hot enough?

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#98 T_REX305
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awww cmon he just wanted to play :P

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#99 T_P_O
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How old are you? If you're the same age as the guy who got tortured how far would you take that "if she looked hot, I'd be sexting her too." Would you just throw age out the window and sext any girl you thought was hot enough?ownage_denied

I'm 18, but if I was 24, my sentiments would remain largely the same. And to be honest no, I wouldn't throw age out of the window, her age is often (but not always) an indication of sexual maturity. I'm not impartial, that's silly - but I can see why a 24 year old would sext a 17 year old. It's not completely un-understandable like some people in this thread are making it out to be.

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#100 Baconbits2004
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I don't feel like reading through the article... considering i don't think it'll change my view on the situation.
If the guy was harassing his daughter, I don't think he was really 'in the wrong' to the extent that it should lead to a criminal conviction against him...
I remember reading a different article where the father claimed he did not invite the guy over.
Under these circumstances, I'd side with the father.

If any of the fathers claims are proven differently, I'd think otherwise.