for the first time I completely disagree with you Mr. Obama

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#1 Serraph105
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Obama has put offshore drilling on the table. I must say I disagree with this because I believe we need to take care of our environment and this goes strictly against that belief. While I do realize he spoke favorably of offshore drilling during his campaign, when he actually got into office he got rid of legislation that was going to put offshore drilling in place within a few years. Also even if we started drilling today it's been said that we wouldn't get any oil from it for about ten years. Not to mention the reports that say the amount of oil we would get (at in Alaska) would only last us a couple of weeks.

Anyways I am very opposed to this and I hope Obama doesn't get this.

What do you guys think? Are you in favor or not?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/31/AR2010033104207.html?hpid=topnews

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#2 dontshackzmii
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Obama is alll over the place. he cant seem to make uo his mind about where he stands .

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it's not as bad as it could be, and it'll ultimately help him out politically so that he is in a better position to pass legislation on climate change.
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#4 ATLBIinger
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I'm not sure. Our country is a oil hungry monster.

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#5 SteveTabernacle
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Alternatively, this is the first time Sarah Palin completely agrees with him. DRILL BABY DRILL.
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#6 WarEagle1357
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Wow, something I agree with him on.
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Okay, first thing that you disagree on? There are at least a million things that he has done wrong already to this country, so I would have already posted this in his first week of presidency. [QUOTE="Serraph105"]

Obama has put offshore drilling on the table. I must say I disagree with this because I believe we need to take care of our environment and this goes strictly against that belief. While I do realize he spoke favorably of offshore drilling during his campaign, when he actually got into office he got rid of legislation that was going to put offshore drilling in place within a few years. Also even if we started drilling today it's been said that we wouldn't get any oil from it for about ten years. Not to mention the reports that say the amount of oil we would get (at in Alaska) would only last us a couple of weeks.

Anyways I am very opposed to this and I hope Obama doesn't get this.

What do you guys think? Are you in favor or not?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/31/AR2010033104207.html?hpid=topnews

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#8 Jaks_Publicity
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Great. So now my governor and my president are both campaigning to destroy what's one of my state's highest revenues.
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#9 Serraph105
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Alternatively, this is the first time Sarah Palin completely agrees with him. DRILL BABY DRILL.SteveTabernacle
give it a couple of days. I'm sure she will disagree with him soon enough
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#10 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="LuigiLorenzo"]Okay, first thing that you disagree on? There are at least a million things that he has done wrong already to this country, so I would have already posted this in his first week of presidency. [QUOTE="Serraph105"]

Obama has put offshore drilling on the table. I must say I disagree with this because I believe we need to take care of our environment and this goes strictly against that belief. While I do realize he spoke favorably of offshore drilling during his campaign, when he actually got into office he got rid of legislation that was going to put offshore drilling in place within a few years. Also even if we started drilling today it's been said that we wouldn't get any oil from it for about ten years. Not to mention the reports that say the amount of oil we would get (at in Alaska) would only last us a couple of weeks.

Anyways I am very opposed to this and I hope Obama doesn't get this.

What do you guys think? Are you in favor or not?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/31/AR2010033104207.html?hpid=topnews

I'm pretty sure that most vets on this site know I have been pretty much pro Obama on most things he has done.
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#11 FUBAR24
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drilling off-shore oil will mean cheaper gas prices for us so im for it cause my truck drinks gas like a whore
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#12 Pirate700
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It's about damn time we start getting our own oil off our shores.

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#13 Serraph105
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It's about damn time we start getting our own oil off our shores.

Pirate700

ah my polar opposite in these types of threads. Glad to have you here. Even if you do disagree with me.

EDIT but I still want us to be less and less dependent on oil

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

It's about damn time we start getting our own oil off our shores.

Serraph105

ah my polar opposite in these types of threads. Glad to have you here. Even if you do disagree with me.

:lol: Thanks Serr. Good to be here.:P

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I don't like the fact that we are starving ourselves of something that we absolutely need because of the environment. The Earth has been around for around 4 billion years, what little effect we humans have on the environment, the planet could just shrug off after a few hundred years. Now I'm all for alternative fuels to loose are dependence on getting oil from dirtbag misogynistic nations that still show public executions, but I know that alternative fuels are still pretty far away.
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#16 Pixel-Pirate
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Drill baby drill!

Did I accidently vote in Palin without knowing?

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#17 Jaks_Publicity
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It's about damn time we start getting our own oil off our shores.

Pirate700
But what about places that can't afford to have their waters damaged? What about over here in Virginia, where pollution in the Chesapeake Bay has already nearly killed off all the sea life, and if it were drilled for oil we'd lose millions of dollars in our seafood and tourism industries? Because, aside from tobacco, that's really the only thing we have going for us.
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I don't like the fact that we are starving ourselves of something that we absolutely need because of the environment. The Earth has been around for around 4 billion years, what little effect we humans have on the environment, the planet could just shrug off after a few hundred years. Now I'm all for alternative fuels to loose are dependence on getting oil from dirtbag misogynistic nations that still show public executions, but I know that alternative fuels are still pretty far away. clubsammich91
Same here. I'm ALL for the development of alternative CHEAPER fuels, but screwing the American people by making them pay way too much for gas is not the way to go about change. Gas prices can/will plummet with off shore drilling...until Obama raises the taxes on that too.

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#19 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

It's about damn time we start getting our own oil off our shores.

Jaks_Publicity
But what about places that can't afford to have their waters damaged? What about over here in Virginia, where pollution in the Chesapeake Bay has already nearly killed off all the sea life, and if it were drilled for oil we'd lose millions of dollars in our seafood and tourism industries? Because, aside from tobacco, that's really the only thing we have going for us.

you know tobacco is a strange subject because on one hand it kill millions of people every year, but I also realize our economy (especially right now) would totally be screwed without it.
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drilling off-shore oil will mean cheaper gas prices for us so im for it cause my truck drinks gas like a whoreFUBAR24
Wow I didn't know prostitutes did that on a regular biases... Anyways, drilling offshore seems to be the best thing we can do right now.
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#21 Serraph105
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Drill baby drill!

Did I accidently vote in Palin without knowing?

Pixel-Pirate
well Palin believes that you can literally shout across Alaska to Russia and thus be all chummy with them and Obama doesn't. so probably not :roll:
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#22 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="FUBAR24"]drilling off-shore oil will mean cheaper gas prices for us so im for it cause my truck drinks gas like a whoreparadigm68
Wow I didn't know prostitutes did that on a regular biases... Anyways, drilling offshore seems to be the best thing we can do right now.

The sad thing is Obama can't even do this right. He has Alaska off limits just to smite Palin and that's where the bulk of the oil is.

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#23 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="paradigm68"][QUOTE="FUBAR24"]drilling off-shore oil will mean cheaper gas prices for us so im for it cause my truck drinks gas like a whorePirate700

Wow I didn't know prostitutes did that on a regular biases... Anyways, drilling offshore seems to be the best thing we can do right now.

The sad thing is Obama can't even do this right. He has Alaska off limits just to smite Palin and that's where the bulk of the oil is.

as I said earlier not really
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This is actually something that I agree with Obama about.
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#25 XD4NTESINF3RNOX
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Wow, something I agree with him on.WarEagle1357
Was going to say the same thing
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#26 Pirate700
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Good to see reps and dems come together in agreement with this. Lower gas prices help everyone.

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#27 clubsammich91
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

It's about damn time we start getting our own oil off our shores.

Jaks_Publicity

But what about places that can't afford to have their waters damaged? What about over here in Virginia, where pollution in the Chesapeake Bay has already nearly killed off all the sea life, and if it were drilled for oil we'd lose millions of dollars in our seafood and tourism industries? Because, aside from tobacco, that's really the only thing we have going for us.

If anything this would increase the Virgina economy. If tobacco is all you guys have going for you then oil would do great for your state economy. Also, your acting like they just drill up and don't care about safety. It's the exact opposite. When was the last time we heard about an offshore drilling accident off the Gulf of Mexico?

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I disagree with that too, but he could just be saying it to avoid $4/gal gas again.

Totally off topic but isn't it funny how we blamed the banks and this and that for our economic mess and not the high gas prices of 2008? I mean seriously I worked my ass off that year and because gas skyrocketing in the summer I couldn't even afford new work clothes or beer. Everyone pointed at the mortgages, I pointed at Exxon and the like.

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#29 Serraph105
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Good to see reps and dems come together in agreement with this. Lower gas prices help everyone.

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I don't know why but you and Chessmaster are the only ones I keep track of on where you stand politically
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Good to see reps and dems come together in agreement with this. Lower gas prices help everyone.

Serraph105

I don't know why but you and Chessmaster are the only ones I keep track of on where you stand politically

Chess and I are just that awesome. That or we're too opinionated.:P

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#31 Serraph105
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I disagree with that too, but he could just be saying it to avoid $4/gal gas again.

Totally off topic but isn't it funny how we blamed the banks and this and that for our economic mess and not the high gas prices of 2008? I mean seriously I worked my ass off that year and because gas skyrocketing in the summer I couldn't even afford new work clothes or beer. Everyone pointed at the mortgages, I pointed at Exxon and the like.

Tiefster

$4 gas sucked pretty hard. I don't believe this will make a difference though since we wouldn't get to the oil for so long anyways. I could be wrong though, but even if I am the hippie in me wants to protect the environment (and I'm not even a hippie).

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Based on what I've heard it's pretty pointless to do this. From what i was informed the oil would take a decade at least to reach us and it wouldn't make much of a dent in our prices overall, and when taking into consideration the possible damage to the environment i'd be against this but i do not have concrete evidence that this is what will occur so i am still uncertain.

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#33 coolbeans90
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Well it's one of the first times that I completely agree with President Obama. I think the positives far outweigh the negatives. Lower oil/gas prices and less dependence on Middle-Eastern oil.

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#34 Jaks_Publicity
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If anything this would increase the Virgina economy. If tobacco is all you guys have going for you then oil would do great for your state economy. Also, your acting like they just drill up and don't care about safety. It's the exact opposite. When was the last time we heard about an offshore drilling accident off the Gulf of Mexico?

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Only the oil companies would be profiting off of it. There are plenty of industries here that relate to the Bay and the ocean. And normally, no, but my governor wants to drill close to the shore, which will definitely affect the ecosystem there. I honestly have no idea how that idiot got elected.
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#35 coolbeans90
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I disagree with that too, but he could just be saying it to avoid $4/gal gas again.

Totally off topic but isn't it funny how we blamed the banks and this and that for our economic mess and not the high gas prices of 2008? I mean seriously I worked my ass off that year and because gas skyrocketing in the summer I couldn't even afford new work clothes or beer. Everyone pointed at the mortgages, I pointed at Exxon and the like.

Tiefster

The banking crisis had a number of causes tracing back to well before 2008. Gas prices were a much less relevant factor than the banking system by any metric.

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Only the oil companies would be profiting off of it. There are plenty of industries here that relate to the Bay and the ocean. And normally, no, but my governor wants to drill close to the shore, which will definitely affect the ecosystem there. I honestly have no idea how that idiot got elected. Jaks_Publicity

How will offshore drilling definitely affect the ecosystem?

I think that Obama has been given the facts on the matter and has come to the only rational decision possible, which is to drill, baby, drill.

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Sure, they can **** up the United States beyond recovery, because they don't care. They're getting paid and they are set for life. Once it all falls apart they'll just move to another country along with all of the money they have gained whileundermining this country. They will retire wealthy in a new country with a new life, leaving everyone else in the rubble.

It's hard to come up with excuses for what you are doing and what you are not doing when it constantly comes into question.

Why is it so hard for people to understand that there are no jobs for citizensif you don't have any work for them to do. Economy only works if people are consuming. BUT they can't consume if they don't have work. You can't trade if you don't have anything to trade.

There's no real sense in any of it. Atduring electionpeople were only interested in Obama because the first Black man as president was the most important thing. Why didn't they try this before? I'm figuring he must have been an ace or something. They knew people would vote for him simply because of the novelty. BUT out of fairness every candidate was an awful choice. I wouldn't be suprised ifvoters made their choices by flipping coins or just spinning around blind-folded with their arm straight out.

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I'd rather hold off drilling our own oil for when we may ever make an enemy of the wrong people and need it then. But Obama can't seem to make up his mind where he's at right now.
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Sure, they can **** up the United States beyond recovery, because they don't care. They're getting paid and they are set for life. Once it all falls apart they'll just move to another country along with all of the money they have gained whileundermining this country. They will retire wealthy in a new country with a new life, leaving everyone else in the rubble.

It's hard to come up with excuses for what you are doing and what you are not doing when it constantly comes into question.

Why is it so hard for people to understand that there are no jobs for citizensif you don't have any work for them to do. Economy only works if people are consuming. BUT they can't consume if they don't have work. You can't trade if you don't have anything to trade.

There's no real sense in any of it. Atduring electionpeople were only interested in Obama because the first Black man as president was the most important thing. Why didn't they try this before? I'm figuring he must have been an ace or something. They knew people would vote for him simply because of the novelty. BUT out of fairness every candidate was an awful choice. I wouldn't be suprised ifvoters made their choices by flipping coins or just spinning around blind-folded with their arm straight out.

MagnumPI
yeah it's impossible for anybody to have listened to where he stood on issues. though to be fair with the way politicians tend to change their stances on so many issues it's hard to argue that a flip of a coin would have really made a difference.
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I'd rather hold off drilling our own oil for when we may ever make an enemy of the wrong people and need it then. But Obama can't seem to make up his mind where he's at right now.SeraphimGoddess

It will take more than plenty of time to begin drilling. Hardly could be used as an emergency source of oil as is.

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I do like the idea of America becoming more energy independent, but I wish there were another way. I hate the fact that the environment must be damaged in order to help secure more oil will always bother me. Also, it feels like putting off the inevitable, as the oil will one day run out no matter what we do, but at that same time I realize we do need to buy time so technology can advance to the point where we can move away from oil. In short, I am torn over the issue.
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How will offshore drilling definitely affect the ecosystem?Pdkrustyklown
Well, in the case of my state, it'll be closer to the shore than most. That disturbs the ecosystem, pollutes, kills animals, kills other animals. I'm not an environmentalist, but this is ridiculous.
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#43 SaudiFury
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Obama is alll over the place. he cant seem to make uo his mind about where he stands .

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I'd rather a President be pragmatic one, then one who is stuck in tunnel vision.
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Funny cause I was thinking the exact opposite of this title...
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Obama isa joke!

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Obama isa joke!

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do you have reasons behind this? or is it just a random bashing post?
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[QUOTE="SeraphimGoddess"]I'd rather hold off drilling our own oil for when we may ever make an enemy of the wrong people and need it then. But Obama can't seem to make up his mind where he's at right now.coolbeans90

It will take more than plenty of time to begin drilling. Hardly could be used as an emergency source of oil as is.

I'm not against preparing it to be ready at a moment's notice.
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I don't like the fact that we are starving ourselves of something that we absolutely need because of the environment. The Earth has been around for around 4 billion years, what little effect we humans have on the environment, the planet could just shrug off after a few hundred years. Now I'm all for alternative fuels to loose are dependence on getting oil from dirtbag misogynistic nations that still show public executions, but I know that alternative fuels are still pretty far away. clubsammich91

From everything I've heard, there are several options available ready to go, some of which are easily adoptable to current engiens and gas stations. The reason we haven't made the shift to alternative fuels? We don't have to.

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[QUOTE="SeraphimGoddess"]I'd rather hold off drilling our own oil for when we may ever make an enemy of the wrong people and need it then. But Obama can't seem to make up his mind where he's at right now.SeraphimGoddess

It will take more than plenty of time to begin drilling. Hardly could be used as an emergency source of oil as is.

I'm not against preparing it to be ready at a moment's notice.

Very much agreed. Hopefully we'll become less dependant on oil in the future.

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#50 Tannerr33
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This is actually one of the few times since he has been president that I have agreed with him. I really wish they would open up more drilling in alaska and tap into our reservers here in the 48 states. We are sitting on **** of oil that we could easily take advantage of.