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#51 supa_badman
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[QUOTE="R-A-W-R"][QUOTE="supa_badman"] how do you experience that? :|Johnny-n-Roger
I'll give an example. This morning I was a bit down because of some circumstances in life. As I was driving by myself to church I prayed that God would lift me up during this day. I immediately realized my problem. It's not me who should be lifted up but God alone! I then prayed that I would see and feel God lifted up this day. Immediately I felt at peace in the midst of my circumstances because it's not I who I should be living for but God's glory. Since then I've been much more joyous in my attitude trying to share the love of Christ even if it be trying to lift up a cashier at Walmart (which I just came from). That's a very small example but it gives you an idea of a daily example. Many times have I had more drastic encounters, at times even weeping in joy to the Lord laying prostrate on the floor.

Self meditation can cause a similar ease of emotions without the interference of any sort of diety, holy body, or organized religion. Your point is moot.

Regardless, he credited to Christ. That's what faith is in a sense, realizing that sometimes that God does help and you can't do it yourself. It's hard to argue faith, because if you don't believe it, you wouldn't understand.
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#52 hyrueprince11
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[QUOTE="R-A-W-R"][QUOTE="smc91352"] how do you experience that? :|smc91352
I'll give an example. This morning I was a bit down because of some circumstances in life. As I was driving by myself to church I prayed that God would lift me up during this day. I immediately realized my problem. It's not me who should be lifted up but God alone! I then prayed that I would see and feel God lifted up this day. Immediately I felt at peace in the midst of my circumstances because it's not I who I should be living for but God's glory. Since then I've been much more joyous in my attitude trying to share the love of Christ even if it be trying to lift up a cashier at Walmart (which I just came from). That's a very small example but it gives you an idea of a daily example. Many times have I had more drastic encounters, at times even weeping in joy to the Lord laying prostrate on the floor.

I dunno how that has anything to do with Christ. Seems like a placebo effect. :|

I don´t like to say this because I might offend you but i agree that seems to be a placebo effect, anyway I think religion is good because it stops some people from doing bad things, it helps people like you in the way it helped you today and sometimes it takes the best out of some people like the mother teresa

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for alot of reasons. First, there is nothing without something to cause it, so we cant say the world is just here by accident or that it does not have a creator. Secondly, i believe that everything has an end, and when that end comes, the thing will be judged and output something. apply this to life, your life start when you are born, and ends when you die. since it began and ended, this mean that it has to output something, and that thing is the afterlife, whether in heaven or hell. thirdly, i hate life. when i say i hate life i mean the generic idea about it, that you just live it and have fun. I dont find having fun that much of a deal. i have fun, and love to, but i find it never lasting and loses its hype quickly. all the good things in life like money, sex, friends, love...etc are boring and never lasting, repetitive and turn on you pretty fast. i feel and believe there is much much more to the whole thing, and i can almost hear it calling to me. thats why im a muslim, i dont want to end up in hell for eternity as the output of my life, and i dont want to fade away in this life doing insignificant things.
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#55 GazaAli
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[QUOTE="R-A-W-R"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] Self meditation can cause a similar ease of emotions without the interference of any sort of diety, holy body, or organized religion. Your point is moot.Johnny-n-Roger
Not to the extent that I'm speaking of. Sure many religions offer good things but do you know of any other religion that sings to God? Yes, there are others who worship by bowing prostrate but are there any which sings joyfully unto God? I know of no religion or meditation that does that or at least to this extent.

Narrow minded, much? I'm beginning to think you're something of a troll here.

why the hell are you calling him a troll, troll?
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#56 R-A-W-R
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[QUOTE="smc91352"]I dunno how that has anything to do with Christ. Seems like a placebo effect. :|hyrueprince11

I don´t like to say this because I might offend you but i agree that seems to be a placebo effect, anyway I think religion is good because it stops some people from doing bad things, it helps people like you in the way it helped you today and sometimes it takes the best out of some people like the mother teresa

No offense taken. I personally do not care if people think me as ignorant and foolish. It's not me who is to glorified but Christ. If being foolish makes you think more highly of Jesus, I have done my job rightly.
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quite arrogant to think God makes you happy when you're feeling a little down but he doesn't help the people with disease or who are born and wont eat a single meal their "entire" life.
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#58 R-A-W-R
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] Narrow minded, much? I'm beginning to think you're something of a troll here.

why the hell are you calling him a troll, troll?

lawl *group hug* :P
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[QUOTE="R-A-W-R"]Also, it has everything to do with Christ because it is he that I am worshiping during those times.smc91352
but how do you know he's paying attention?

bump; is there an answer to this?
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for alot of reasons. First, there is nothing without something to cause it, so we cant say the world is just here by accident or that it does not have a creator. Secondly, i believe that everything has an end, and when that end comes, the thing will be judged and output something. apply this to life, your life start when you are born, and ends when you die. since it began and ended, this mean that it has to output something, and that thing is the afterlife, whether in heaven or hell. thirdly, i hate life. when i say i hate life i mean the generic idea about it, that you just live it and have fun. I dont find having fun that much of a deal. i have fun, and love to, but i find it never lasting and loses its hype quickly. all the good things in life like money, sex, friends, love...etc are boring and never lasting, repetitive and turn on you pretty fast. i feel and believe there is much much more to the whole thing, and i can almost hear it calling to me. thats why im a muslim, i dont want to end up in hell for eternity as the output of my life, and i dont want to fade away in this life doing insignificant things.GazaAli
Well who created god? Isn't the "big bang theory" only as half-assed as the lack of reasoning behind god's existance?

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#61 supa_badman
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[QUOTE="smc91352"][QUOTE="R-A-W-R"]Also, it has everything to do with Christ because it is he that I am worshiping during those times.smc91352
but how do you know he's paying attention?

bump; is there an answer to this?

There's a feeling, a feeling that someone IS paying attention. But as I said before, it's hard to explain or argue faith, because if you don't believe it, you wouldn't understand.
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#62 R-A-W-R
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quite arrogant to think God makes you happy when you're feeling a little down but he doesn't help the people with disease or who are born and wont eat a single meal their "entire" life. Brainkiller05
And now you understand why I corrected myself in my prayer. I should not be looking for my own joy but lifting up Christ. And yes, they need help as well. Hence the reason why I do whatever I can to support foreign missions whether it be financially, through prayer, going myself, etc. They need both physical help and spiritual help.
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#63 Johnny-n-Roger
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quite arrogant to think God makes you happy when you're feeling a little down but he doesn't help the people with disease or who are born and wont eat a single meal their "entire" life. Brainkiller05
:lol: This is true. I have an aunt who couldn't decide what color drapes to use to decorate her living room. She said "But then I just left it up to God to decide what I should do and that's how I came up with these". I roffled right in front of her.
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#64 R-A-W-R
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[QUOTE="smc91352"][QUOTE="R-A-W-R"]Also, it has everything to do with Christ because it is he that I am worshiping during those times.smc91352
but how do you know he's paying attention?

bump; is there an answer to this?

It's extremely hard to explain. It's not always an audible voice but I do hear from God. You do realize that the main purpose of pray is to hear from God and align our will to his correct? Sure we are to give him our requests but that in no way should be our main purpose in praying.
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#65 R-A-W-R
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]quite arrogant to think God makes you happy when you're feeling a little down but he doesn't help the people with disease or who are born and wont eat a single meal their "entire" life. Johnny-n-Roger
:lol: This is true. I have an aunt who couldn't decide what color drapes to use to decorate her living room. She said "But then I just left it up to God to decide what I should do and that's how I came up with these". I roffled right in front of her.

Gee.... I would too. o_O However, flipping a coin about it would technically be leaving it up to God. :wink:
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"]for alot of reasons. First, there is nothing without something to cause it, so we cant say the world is just here by accident or that it does not have a creator. Secondly, i believe that everything has an end, and when that end comes, the thing will be judged and output something. apply this to life, your life start when you are born, and ends when you die. since it began and ended, this mean that it has to output something, and that thing is the afterlife, whether in heaven or hell. thirdly, i hate life. when i say i hate life i mean the generic idea about it, that you just live it and have fun. I dont find having fun that much of a deal. i have fun, and love to, but i find it never lasting and loses its hype quickly. all the good things in life like money, sex, friends, love...etc are boring and never lasting, repetitive and turn on you pretty fast. i feel and believe there is much much more to the whole thing, and i can almost hear it calling to me. thats why im a muslim, i dont want to end up in hell for eternity as the output of my life, and i dont want to fade away in this life doing insignificant things.Johnny-n-Roger

Well who created god? Isn't the "big bang theory" only as half-assed as the lack of reasoning behind god's existance?

the chain must break at a certain node, and this node is god. and btw, your avatar is really annoying since i saw it.
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#67 supa_badman
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[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"]

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]for alot of reasons. First, there is nothing without something to cause it, so we cant say the world is just here by accident or that it does not have a creator. Secondly, i believe that everything has an end, and when that end comes, the thing will be judged and output something. apply this to life, your life start when you are born, and ends when you die. since it began and ended, this mean that it has to output something, and that thing is the afterlife, whether in heaven or hell. thirdly, i hate life. when i say i hate life i mean the generic idea about it, that you just live it and have fun. I dont find having fun that much of a deal. i have fun, and love to, but i find it never lasting and loses its hype quickly. all the good things in life like money, sex, friends, love...etc are boring and never lasting, repetitive and turn on you pretty fast. i feel and believe there is much much more to the whole thing, and i can almost hear it calling to me. thats why im a muslim, i dont want to end up in hell for eternity as the output of my life, and i dont want to fade away in this life doing insignificant things.GazaAli

Well who created god? Isn't the "big bang theory" only as half-assed as the lack of reasoning behind god's existance?

the chain must break at a certain node, and this node is god. and btw, your avatar is really annoying since i saw it.

I didn't want to say it, but I have to agree as well. >_> lol.
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#68 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="smc91352"][QUOTE="smc91352"] but how do you know he's paying attention?supa_badman
bump; is there an answer to this?

There's a feeling, a feeling that someone IS paying attention. But as I said before, it's hard to explain or argue faith, because if you don't believe it, you wouldn't understand.

I think you're at less of and understanding if you believe it. You really can't fathom that their may or may not be someone actually hearing your prayers. Is it so preposterous and irrational to believe that these feelings are entirely internal? You have to give yourself more credit here.
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Why does it seem that a lot of atheists have taken it upon themselves to troll religious people lately? I thought they were staunchly against people trying to enforce their beliefs upon others. Believe and let believe.
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Personally, I have no reason to believe in religion. I already have a strong moral code, I don't have need of otherworldly strength, I don't fear nothingness after death and I just can't buy into the concept. However, if people some people feel that religion is beneficial to them, all the power to them. The only time I have a problem with religion is when people let it rule their lives.
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#71 smc91352
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dude, can you tone it down? You're gonna get suspended or something.
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#72 GazaAli
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[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"]smc91352
dude, can you tone it down? You're gonna get suspended or something.

well i guess he is already.
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#73 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"]

for alot of reasons. First, there is nothing without something to cause it, so we cant say the world is just here by accident or that it does not have a creator. Secondly, i believe that everything has an end, and when that end comes, the thing will be judged and output something. apply this to life, your life start when you are born, and ends when you die. since it began and ended, this mean that it has to output something, and that thing is the afterlife, whether in heaven or hell. thirdly, i hate life. when i say i hate life i mean the generic idea about it, that you just live it and have fun. I dont find having fun that much of a deal. i have fun, and love to, but i find it never lasting and loses its hype quickly. all the good things in life like money, sex, friends, love...etc are boring and never lasting, repetitive and turn on you pretty fast. i feel and believe there is much much more to the whole thing, and i can almost hear it calling to me. thats why im a muslim, i dont want to end up in hell for eternity as the output of my life, and i dont want to fade away in this life doing insignificant things.GazaAli
Well who created god? Isn't the "big bang theory" only as half-assed as the lack of reasoning behind god's existance?

the chain must break at a certain node, and this node is god. and btw, your avatar is really annoying since i saw it.

That attempt at a clever analogy really does nothing to downplay the lack of reasoning behind god's existance. It is, however, a prime example of how "religious" individuals attempt to simplify everything that they can't understand by saying "well god made it that way" or "god is because he is". Anyone with a decent intellect would find these types of explanations unacceptable.
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#74 R-A-W-R
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You have to give yourself more credit here.Johnny-n-Roger
It's against my religion to give myself credit. :P :wink:
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#75 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="smc91352"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"]GazaAli
dude, can you tone it down? You're gonna get suspended or something.

well i guess he is already.

What are you talking about?
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#76 GazaAli
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bottom line is: i will die, and so will you. and we will eventually see for ourselves. when people see, im sure analyzing, researching and rejection will mean nothing to anyone.
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] Well who created god? Isn't the "big bang theory" only as half-assed as the lack of reasoning behind god's existance?

Johnny-n-Roger

the chain must break at a certain node, and this node is god. and btw, your avatar is really annoying since i saw it.

That attempt at a clever analogy really does nothing to downplay the lack of reasoning behind god's existance. It is, however, a prime example of how "religious" individuals attempt to simplify everything that they can't understand by saying "well god made it that way" or "god is because he is". Anyone with a decent intellect would find these types of explanations unacceptable.

Didn't Albert Einstein believe in God?

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[QUOTE="supa_badman"][QUOTE="smc91352"] bump; is there an answer to this?Johnny-n-Roger
There's a feeling, a feeling that someone IS paying attention. But as I said before, it's hard to explain or argue faith, because if you don't believe it, you wouldn't understand.

I think you're at less of and understanding if you believe it. You really can't fathom that their may or may not be someone actually hearing your prayers. Is it so preposterous and irrational to believe that these feelings are entirely internal? You have to give yourself more credit here.

I disagree on less of understanding, because you know what you believe and you believe it is there, where as if you didn't you'd probably it would stupid. But you're right on one thing, it is sometimes internal.
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Because it's willing to accept that it makes no sense at all.

Plus the humour is mighty fine.

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[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="GazaAli"] the chain must break at a certain node, and this node is god. and btw, your avatar is really annoying since i saw it.mattbbpl

That attempt at a clever analogy really does nothing to downplay the lack of reasoning behind god's existance. It is, however, a prime example of how "religious" individuals attempt to simplify everything that they can't understand by saying "well god made it that way" or "god is because he is". Anyone with a decent intellect would find these types of explanations unacceptable.

Didn't Albert Einstein believe in God?

:lol: no. He was an atheist.
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] Well who created god? Isn't the "big bang theory" only as half-assed as the lack of reasoning behind god's existance?

Johnny-n-Roger

the chain must break at a certain node, and this node is god. and btw, your avatar is really annoying since i saw it.

That attempt at a clever analogy really does nothing to downplay the lack of reasoning behind god's existance. It is, however, a prime example of how "religious" individuals attempt to simplify everything that they can't understand by saying "well god made it that way" or "god is because he is". Anyone with a decent intellect would find these types of explanations unacceptable.

There is theology, and it goes deeper to explain faith and the religion, I just doubt anyone here would have a degree and talk on GS to explain things deeper. >_>

What I'm saying is, there are people who explain better, but I doubt there's anyone like that here on GS

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[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="GazaAli"] the chain must break at a certain node, and this node is god. and btw, your avatar is really annoying since i saw it.mattbbpl

That attempt at a clever analogy really does nothing to downplay the lack of reasoning behind god's existance. It is, however, a prime example of how "religious" individuals attempt to simplify everything that they can't understand by saying "well god made it that way" or "god is because he is". Anyone with a decent intellect would find these types of explanations unacceptable.

Didn't Albert Einstein believe in God?

he did but his religion was something like mine, something he made up, if I´m not wrong he beleived god was nature or something like that

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#83 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="hyrueprince11"]

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]

That attempt at a clever analogy really does nothing to downplay the lack of reasoning behind god's existance. It is, however, a prime example of how "religious" individuals attempt to simplify everything that they can't understand by saying "well god made it that way" or "god is because he is". Anyone with a decent intellect would find these types of explanations unacceptable.Johnny-n-Roger
Didn't Albert Einstein believe in God?

he did but his religion was something like mine, something he made up, if I´m not wrong he beleived god was nature or something like that

actually I beleive he was agnostic.
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[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="hyrueprince11"]

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]Didn't Albert Einstein believe in God?

he did but his religion was something like mine, something he made up, if I´m not wrong he beleived god was nature or something like that

actually I beleive he was agnostic.

Yeah he was.
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[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]

That attempt at a clever analogy really does nothing to downplay the lack of reasoning behind god's existance. It is, however, a prime example of how "religious" individuals attempt to simplify everything that they can't understand by saying "well god made it that way" or "god is because he is". Anyone with a decent intellect would find these types of explanations unacceptable.Johnny-n-Roger
Didn't Albert Einstein believe in God?

:lol: no. He was an atheist.

Haha, then I stand mistaken. Regardless, there have been a plethora of intelligent people with faith, and you're putting yourself on quite a tall pedestal if you deem that you possess a higher intellect than all those people.
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[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="GazaAli"] the chain must break at a certain node, and this node is god. and btw, your avatar is really annoying since i saw it.supa_badman

That attempt at a clever analogy really does nothing to downplay the lack of reasoning behind god's existance. It is, however, a prime example of how "religious" individuals attempt to simplify everything that they can't understand by saying "well god made it that way" or "god is because he is". Anyone with a decent intellect would find these types of explanations unacceptable.

There is theology, and it goes deeper to explain faith and the religion, I just doubt anyone here would have a degree and talk on GS to explain things deeper. >_>

What I'm saying is, there are people who explain better, but I doubt there's anyone like that here on GS

Agreed, so lets not pretend to know :P. I just think it's laughable when Christians attempt to explain everything as being "god's will" instead of investigating any sort of logical explanation. It just seems like a cop-out as someone is either lazy, or intellectually incapable of using such logic.
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#87 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]Didn't Albert Einstein believe in God?

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:lol: no. He was an atheist.

Haha, then I stand mistaken. Regardless, there have been a plethora of intelligent people with faith, and you're putting yourself on quite a tall pedestal if you deem that you possess a higher intellect than all those people.

Name them.

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#88 GazaAli
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i think Addison believed in god.
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#89 R-A-W-R
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[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] :lol: no. He was an atheist.

No he was not. He wasn't a Christian but he was no atheist. He did not hold to the position that God was a personal and knowable God. Einstein once said, "I believe in Spinoza's God, Who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God Who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind." And since everyone seems to try to quote Einstein wrongly, I'll give an actually reference. - Albert Einstein: Philosopher-Scientist edited by Paul Arthur Schilpp (The Open Court Publishing Co., La Salle, Illinois, Third Edition, 1970) pp. 659 - 660.
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[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="hyrueprince11"]

he did but his religion was something like mine, something he made up, if I´m not wrong he beleived god was nature or something like that

supa_badman

actually I beleive he was agnostic.

Yeah he was.

it seems like he beleived in the ¨spinoza god¨

but nothing is really clear about einstein´s beleifs, to prove this, I´ll put 2 quotes

"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.

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#91 supa_badman
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[QUOTE="supa_badman"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] That attempt at a clever analogy really does nothing to downplay the lack of reasoning behind god's existance. It is, however, a prime example of how "religious" individuals attempt to simplify everything that they can't understand by saying "well god made it that way" or "god is because he is". Anyone with a decent intellect would find these types of explanations unacceptable.Johnny-n-Roger

There is theology, and it goes deeper to explain faith and the religion, I just doubt anyone here would have a degree and talk on GS to explain things deeper. >_>

What I'm saying is, there are people who explain better, but I doubt there's anyone like that here on GS

Agreed, so lets not pretend to know :P. I just think it's laughable when Christians attempt to explain everything as being "god's will" instead of investigating any sort of logical explanation. It just seems like a cop-out as someone is either lazy, or intellectually incapable of using such logic.

I agree, although faith's an essential part, I need something more than that. Sadly not a lot of Christians are like that.
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#92 Johnny-n-Roger
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i think Addison believed in god.GazaAli
Wrong. Edison was a type of agnostic.

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#93 smc91352
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(some post about Edison)Johnny-n-Roger
dude. :|

please tone it down.

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for alot of reasons. First, there is nothing without something to cause it, so we cant say the world is just here by accident or that it does not have a creator. Secondly, i believe that everything has an end, and when that end comes, the thing will be judged and output something. apply this to life, your life start when you are born, and ends when you die. since it began and ended, this mean that it has to output something, and that thing is the afterlife, whether in heaven or hell. thirdly, i hate life. when i say i hate life i mean the generic idea about it, that you just live it and have fun. I dont find having fun that much of a deal. i have fun, and love to, but i find it never lasting and loses its hype quickly. all the good things in life like money, sex, friends, love...etc are boring and never lasting, repetitive and turn on you pretty fast. i feel and believe there is much much more to the whole thing, and i can almost hear it calling to me. thats why im a muslim, i dont want to end up in hell for eternity as the output of my life, and i dont want to fade away in this life doing insignificant things.GazaAli
This. I'm a Muslim as well.
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[QUOTE="supa_badman"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] Agreed, so lets not pretend to know :P. I just think it's laughable when Christians attempt to explain everything as being "god's will" instead of investigating any sort of logical explanation. It just seems like a cop-out as someone is either lazy, or intellectually incapable of using such logic.

I agree, although faith's an essential part, I need something more than that. Sadly not a lot of Christians are like that.

In some ways I agree but other ways not. Christians believe in a logical God and thus all things that are true should be the result of rational cause and effect. However, Christians are also called to "walk by faith and not by sight." There are times when the Christian is called to do something that makes absolutely no sense in our own state of mind but simply trust that God is in control.
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"]i think Addison believed in god.Johnny-n-Roger
I guess you could've have googled this being you don't even know how to spell the guys name. 30 seconds of research can be the difference between winning and argument and looking like an ass. Edison was a type of agnostic.

It is a well-established fact that he believed in a god. Go look at the source that R-A-W-R posted.

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#97 GazaAli
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now who is embarrassing himself "Johnny-n-Roger "? can you please stop trolling like your avatar.
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[QUOTE="R-A-W-R"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] I corrected myself
[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="GazaAli"]i think Addison believed in god.ghoklebutter
I guess you could've have googled this being you don't even know how to spell the guys name. 30 seconds of research can be the difference between winning and argument and looking like an ass. Edison was a type of agnostic.

It is a well-established fact that he believed in a God. Go look at the source that R-A-W-R posted.

"God" in your post should not be capitalized. This would only imply that he beleives in the Christian God, which is not true. I later corrected myself by calling Einstein an Agnostic, which he is.
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now who is embarrassing himself "Johnny-n-Roger "? can you please stop trolling like your avatar.GazaAli
Wow, one post which I later corrected. I'm pretty sure I spelled Edison without any coherence issues. I also like the assertion that I'm a "troll", as if you come into a debate thread expecting not to debate.

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#100 GazaAli
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"]now who is embarrassing himself "Johnny-n-Roger "? can you please stop trolling like your avatar.Johnny-n-Roger
Wow, one post which I later corrected. I'm pretty sure I spelled Edison without any coherence issues.

so far you corrected more than one posts. so you lie too? this is getting pathetic, i declare you a not worthy being for my attention.