For what reason do you believe in your religion?

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] :lol: no. He was an atheist.Johnny-n-Roger

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="GazaAli"]now who is embarrassing himself "Johnny-n-Roger "? can you please stop trolling like your avatar.GazaAli

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] Wow, one post which I later corrected. I'm pretty sure I spelled Edison without any coherence issues.Johnny-n-Roger

So you're leaving the debate? Not much will have changed given you haven't really contributed anything in the first place besides "OMG j00r AvETER SUGXS FTW".Johnny-n-Roger

[QUOTE="R-A-W-R"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] I guess you could've have googled this being you don't even know how to spell the guys name. 30 seconds of research can be the difference between winning and argument and looking like an ass. Edison was a type of agnostic.Johnny-n-Roger

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="R-A-W-R"] It is a well-established fact that he believed in a God. Go look at the source that R-A-W-R posted. ghoklebutter

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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"] Haha, then I stand mistaken. Regardless, there have been a plethora of intelligent people with faith, and you're putting yourself on quite a tall pedestal if you deem that you possess a higher intellect than all those people.mattbbpl

Haha, then I stand mistaken. Regardless, there have been a plethora of intelligent people with faith, and you're putting yourself on quite a tall pedestal if you deem that you possess a higher intellect than all those people.mattbbpl

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] Name them.

Johnny-n-Roger

James Clerk Maxwell, for one.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] "God" in your post should not be capitalized. This would only imply that he beleives in the Christian God, which is not true. I later corrected myself by calling Einstein an Agnostic, which he is.GazaAli

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] "God" in your post should not be capitalized. This would only imply that he beleives in the Christian God, which is not true. I later corrected myself by calling Einstein an Agnostic, which he is.GazaAli

why did he make you laugh?

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="R-A-W-R"] It is a well-established fact that he believed in a God. Go look at the source that R-A-W-R posted. ghoklebutter

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] Thank you for cherry-picking at my post. I un-capitalized "god". Even if I kept it that way, I never implied that he believed in the Abrahamic God. Einstein did believe in a god, but he had his own idea of god. Johnny-n-Roger

estimate75% athiests on this website. wide is the path that leads to destruction

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="GazaAli"] man he really gave me the laugh of the day and its 10PM here so the day is already over.GazaAli

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] Thank you for cherry-picking at my post. I un-capitalized "god". Even if I kept it that way, I never implied that he believed in the Abrahamic God. Einstein did believe in a god, but he had his own idea of god. hyrueprince11

why did he make you laugh?

Why does it seem that a lot of atheists have taken it upon themselves to troll religious people lately? I thought they were staunchly against people trying to enforce their beliefs upon others. Believe and let believe.mattbbpl

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] :lol: You have yet to contribute anything worthwhile to this thread. All you do is reply to my posts with "THAT GY GoT UTHAR LAWL". Maybe someday you'll be able to post arguments of your own ;)Johnny-n-Roger

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]Why does it seem that a lot of atheists have taken it upon themselves to troll religious people lately? I thought they were staunchly against people trying to enforce their beliefs upon others. Believe and let believe.mattbbpl

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[QUOTE="GazaAli"] man he really gave me the laugh of the day and its 10PM here so the day is already over.GazaAli

why did he make you laugh?

1. I didn't think it was much of a riddle; it means what it says. You really haven't contributed anything to the debate of this thread except for some meaningless commentary.

2. Where did I "accuse others (plural)of being trolls since the beginning of the topic"? Go read the posts again. I see one post where I said "you seem like some sort of troll" because of the overzealous nature of the posts coupled with the recent userregistration date.

3. Discriminating others? Where's teh descrimination? You're just making them up as you go, I see.

4. You don't like my avatar? Fine. I don't like yours, but I don't complain because I don't need to to win an argument.

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]Why does it seem that a lot of atheists have taken it upon themselves to troll religious people lately? I thought they were staunchly against people trying to enforce their beliefs upon others. Believe and let believe.GazaAli

"It just upsets me to think that people need to believe in something greater to make themselves feel more comfortable with the world they live in."

Seems kind of weird to me.

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"] As this thread goes on, this question is brought to my mind again and again.mattbbpl

I just believe that it's right and I was taught it (Islam) at a very young age.

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"] As this thread goes on, this question is brought to my mind again and again.mattbbpl

"It just upsets me to think that people need to believe in something greater to make themselves feel more comfortable with the world they live in."

Seems kind of weird to me.

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="GazaAli"] from my perspective, i can honestly say that they choose to be atheists and dont want any possibility of a god to ruin it for them. i mean they fear the idea of a god, and know if its true then they are screwed for eternity.i dont blame them as the idea is horrific.Johnny-n-Roger

from my perspective, i can honestly say that they choose to be atheists and dont want any possibility of a god to ruin it for them. i mean they fear the idea of a god, and know if its true then they are screwed for eternity.i dont blame them as the idea is horrific.GazaAli

"It just upsets me to think that people need to believe in something greater to make themselves feel more comfortable with the world they live in."

Seems kind of weird to me.

it´s horrible how this topic could´ve been something interesting but was turned into just another religious topic

but well the interesting thing about this topic is that it seems like most people believe because their parents believe in the same thing and were raised that way

I see what he's saying though. It's kind of like watching someone take pain-killers every day when you know that they could probably live without them. Maybe a poor analogy, but I don't agree with this reasoning anyway. My problem lies with those Christians who insist on pushing their beleifs. It's common for them to feel somehow superior to me, not having an organized religion. I've been told "I need Christ in my life, I'm going to hell, etc." It just seems foolish to me, being if you ever ask one of them "why do you beleive what you beleive" they work around the question and give you some sort of generic self-insistant answer.Johnny-n-Roger

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"] Hmmm. Even so, if other people believe in a God (whether or not he/she/it actually exists or not) those beliefs will neither help them nor hurt them. Seems kind of silly to me. Yet the OP clearly states that such beliefs anger him.

"It just upsets me to think that people need to believe in something greater to make themselves feel more comfortable with the world they live in."

Seems kind of weird to me.mattbbpl

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] I see what he's saying though. It's kind of like watching someone take pain-killers every day when you know that they could probably live without them. Maybe a poor analogy, but I don't agree with this reasoning anyway. My problem lies with those Christians who insist on pushing their beleifs. It's common for them to feel somehow superior to me, not having an organized religion. I've been told "I need Christ in my life, I'm going to hell, etc." It just seems foolish to me, being if you ever ask one of them "why do you beleive what you beleive" they work around the question and give you some sort of generic self-insistant answer.LJS9502_basic

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[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] I see what he's saying though. It's kind of like watching someone take pain-killers every day when you know that they could probably live without them. Maybe a poor analogy, but I don't agree with this reasoning anyway. My problem lies with those Christians who insist on pushing their beleifs. It's common for them to feel somehow superior to me, not having an organized religion. I've been told "I need Christ in my life, I'm going to hell, etc." It just seems foolish to me, being if you ever ask one of them "why do you beleive what you beleive" they work around the question and give you some sort of generic self-insistant answer.Johnny-n-Roger

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Why do youi single out only Christians. In the years I've been in OT it's more common for an atheist to push beliefs than a Christian....per cent wise.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] Because these forums are dominated by atheists.Johnny-n-Roger

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I'm not entirely sure that is the case. They are move vocal. But I doubt they are majority. Atheism is not the majority in the world.ghoklebutter

And you think the users of these forums are representative of the world's population? :lol:

Johnny-n-Roger

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"]

And you think the users of these forums are representative of the world's population? :lol:

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"]

And you think the users of these forums are representative of the world's population? :lol:

Johnny-n-Roger

Because Odin is all-mighty. I have no reason to doubt him.chessmaster1989

Makes sense I suppose. Its more of an internal feeling. Can't really be explained.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Because Odin is all-mighty. I have no reason to doubt him.ghoklebutter

Thor is mighty indeed. He is the son of almighty Odin, but is not superior.

because I don't like the thought of my life being a simple product of evolution. That means everyone's life is pretty much worthless in the grand scheme of things.....mohfrontline

Fortunately, scientific fact does not depend on whether or not we like the truth or not... :P

I both think that evolution has overwhelming evidence in its favor, yet also do not find any loss of meaning in life because of that fact. It is much more healthy, in my view, to accomodate what is true into one's view of the world than to fight against it tooth and nail. If your thoughts are in harmony with what is true, then you will be at peace; if they are at odds with what is true, then either you will have to purposefully hide and refuse to expose yourself to the world or you will have no peace at all.

I believe that all religions tell a lie about what God really is.

I'm like you TC, I don't have any particular reason to "believe" in any religion. I tend to like religions that preach universal compassion and selflessness, but can't seem to either completely agree with all their moral positions, nor can I make the leaps of faith necessary to accept them as "true."

When people ask my religion I can never bring myself to say that I'm atheist, but thats where I fall I guess. My problem is with organized religion. People except it as concrete truth, and blindly follow. Take my neighbor for example. Shes going through some hard times with her health and financially. She wants to get a job as a in home, hospice type nurse. But instead of her actively seeking it out she says "I believe if its in gods plan, the job will find me." No you are just lazy and too incompetent to take control of your own life, and you use your beliefs in god to justify it.

I think "religion" should be used as a tool to better your own life. "God" is not a concrete entity, but more of an idea that should be used as a meditation tool to further your own thoughts, and better yourself.

Just my two cents.

I just think thats since A: there is no proof of god

B: I don't need or want to believe in a greater being to protect me, guide me, etc.

C: I wwant to live my life fully, instead of wastiing it because maybe there exists such a thing as heaven. :|

lyeti

well, the idea of there being some higher power just doesn't make sense to me