Fox News outs the Navy SEAL who wrote an anonymous book on the bin Laden raid

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Muslim immigrants are generally more hardworking than other immigrant groups kingkong0124
lol Lucky Americans.
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] mhm. l4dak47

Sad to be 18 and not have people skills yet.

Sad to be 30 and not have critical thinking skills.

You're out of your element. Run.
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I wonder if this was done by a different news station if there would be such an obvious partisan response. This is definitely a neat experience in herd behavior.DaBrainz
Had the news station in question bashed Wikileaks in the same manner as Fox has I would say the exact same thing. I care quite a bit more for the privacy and rights of a citizen than I do for the privacy and rights of a massive organization of people working to keep secrets from the people they're sworn to serve. I do think the releasing of military documents of operations that had not yet happened in regards to the wikileaks ordeal was pretty tactless and could have put lives at risk. I don't see this as too different than that though.
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I have not read the book so I can't really say if he should be up on charges but to release his name and put a operators life in danger for head lines is shameful and dangerous to his life and is family. While Americans are living the good life he was putting his life on the line in service to his country. You have no idea how hard he worked and what he went though to serve his country. I will say that he was stupid to do this just to make money. He has lived and been lucky to be in good health by the grace of GOD after all the action. There will always be people that never put on the uniform trying to make a buck off the stories of operators.

You should be smart and keep your pie hole shut.

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#105 xscrapzx
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Sure like this guy's name was going to stay private, rigggght. Like no one else would be digging to find out who it is. I mean what do you expect? This book will probably be a best seller and if you honestly think his name would never be released at some point you are being completely naive.

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#106 worlock77
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Sure like this guy's name was going to stay private, rigggght. Like no one else would be digging to find out who it is. I mean what do you expect? This book will probably be a best seller and if you honestly think his name would never be released at some point you are being completely naive.

xscrapzx

The identity of Deepthroat remained a secret for more than three decades and only released once the man, Mark Felt, outed himself as Deepthroat.

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#107 xscrapzx
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

Sure like this guy's name was going to stay private, rigggght. Like no one else would be digging to find out who it is. I mean what do you expect? This book will probably be a best seller and if you honestly think his name would never be released at some point you are being completely naive.

The identity of Deepthroat remained a secret for more than three decades and only released once the man, Mark Felt, outed himself as Deepthroat.

So?
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[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

Sure like this guy's name was going to stay private, rigggght. Like no one else would be digging to find out who it is. I mean what do you expect? This book will probably be a best seller and if you honestly think his name would never be released at some point you are being completely naive.

The identity of Deepthroat remained a secret for more than three decades and only released once the man, Mark Felt, outed himself as Deepthroat.

So?

There does exist journalists with integrity.
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#109 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

Sure like this guy's name was going to stay private, rigggght. Like no one else would be digging to find out who it is. I mean what do you expect? This book will probably be a best seller and if you honestly think his name would never be released at some point you are being completely naive.

xscrapzx

The identity of Deepthroat remained a secret for more than three decades and only released once the man, Mark Felt, outed himself as Deepthroat.

So?

Kinda debunks your the name will be released at some point notion.

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I have not read the book so I can't really say if he should be up on charges but to release his name and put a operators life in danger for head lines is shameful and dangerous to his life and is family. While Americans are living the good life he was putting his life on the line in service to his country. You have no idea how hard he worked and what he went though to serve his country. I will say that he was stupid to do this just to make money. He has lived and been lucky to be in good health by the grace of GOD after all the action. There will always be people that never put on the uniform trying to make a buck off the stories of operators.

You should be smart and keep your pie hole shut.

noscope-ak47

What's wrong with just wanting to make money? You must be naive because everyone joins the military to get some sort of benefit from it and not for imaginary concepts like "honour".

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[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

Sure like this guy's name was going to stay private, rigggght. Like no one else would be digging to find out who it is. I mean what do you expect? This book will probably be a best seller and if you honestly think his name would never be released at some point you are being completely naive.

The identity of Deepthroat remained a secret for more than three decades and only released once the man, Mark Felt, outed himself as Deepthroat.

So?

"So" it means you are being silly. Also. Good job FOX. Endangering the family of a key player in your "enemy"'s death. Smh.
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[QUOTE="noscope-ak47"]

I have not read the book so I can't really say if he should be up on charges but to release his name and put a operators life in danger for head lines is shameful and dangerous to his life and is family. While Americans are living the good life he was putting his life on the line in service to his country. You have no idea how hard he worked and what he went though to serve his country. I will say that he was stupid to do this just to make money. He has lived and been lucky to be in good health by the grace of GOD after all the action. There will always be people that never put on the uniform trying to make a buck off the stories of operators.

You should be smart and keep your pie hole shut.

Aljosa23

What's wrong with just wanting to make money? You must be naive because everyone joins the military to get some sort of benefit from it and not for imaginary concepts like "honour".

Really tell me more about being a operator in the military what branch are you in ??

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Really tell me more about being a operator in the military what branch are you in ??

noscope-ak47

Answer my question first.

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#114 noscope-ak47
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[QUOTE="noscope-ak47"]

Really tell me more about being a operator in the military what branch are you in ??

Aljosa23

Answer my question first.

So you going to circle jerk now that is what I thought you have no clue.

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I have not read the book so I can't really say if he should be up on charges but to release his name and put a operators life in danger for head lines is shameful and dangerous to his life and is family. While Americans are living the good life he was putting his life on the line in service to his country. You have no idea how hard he worked and what he went though to serve his country. I will say that he was stupid to do this just to make money. He has lived and been lucky to be in good health by the grace of GOD after all the action. There will always be people that never put on the uniform trying to make a buck off the stories of operators.

You should be smart and keep your pie hole shut.

noscope-ak47
What's wrong with just wanting to make money?
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#116 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="noscope-ak47"]

Really tell me more about being a operator in the military what branch are you in ??

noscope-ak47

Answer my question first.

So you going to circle jerk now that is what I thought you have no clue.

Okay so you have no response. I figured.

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[QUOTE="noscope-ak47"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Answer my question first.

Aljosa23

So you going to circle jerk now that is what I thought you have no clue.

Okay so you have no response. I figured.

Nothing wrong with wanting to make money. Still wrong that he is putting the operator at risk though. And also wrong for a news source to reveal the Seal's name. Both at fault.

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Sad to be 18 and not have people skills yet.

Pirate700

Sad to be 30 and not have critical thinking skills.

What's even more sad is you keep posting the wrong age.

It's sad that you're both still "arguing." I have you both beat.
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[QUOTE="DeX2010"] Wikileaks was critisised because it endagered intelligence operatives security, as well as destroyed some countries' international relations with the USA..

Tell this to warlock. Hating Fox News for this but supporting Wikileaks is hypocritical.
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#122 67gt500
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He should know better if he did leak any sensitive info I hope he gets locked up. Some things you just take to your grave. If you must talk you have your brothers in arms.

noscope-ak47
Right, because God forbid the public should ever know the whole truth about an historic event that has had, at the very least, an indirect effect on every living person on earth...
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="DeX2010"] Wikileaks was critisised because it endagered intelligence operatives security, as well as destroyed some countries' international relations with the USA..

Tell this to warlock. Hating Fox News for this but supporting Wikileaks is hypocritical.

You don't see the distinction between a private citizens information and a governments?
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

- Wikileaks didn't realase any information that put anyone in any danger. Simply having personal information public does not endanger someone in and of itself. Someone's identity being concealed because that knowledge being public could endanger them is entirely different.

- So you think it's fair that he or his family might now be put in danger just because he decided to write a book?

a) They've released information as to the addresses etc of people affiliated with controversial groups associated with violence and such. So yes they did. BNP is one. Lets not mince words here and just forgo the usual BS and agree to disagree I guess?

b) Hell yes. He is part of that family. He decides to write a book on a very high profile event that was essentially an assassination? If he has decided that it was worth putting his family in danger over some money then why does the rest of the world need to pick up the slack? No one here is saying that we hope his family gets hurts. All any few are saying is that this is a consenquence. A rational one. A common sense one. A consenquence a damn ex seal should understand. That anyone writing anything on this not as a proposed fanfic but as an actual the dealer of death would garner great efforts to find who they were? Especially as outside the goverment channels and solely through the private sector ones?
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Figured as much. Yikes.

Pirate700

Aren't you like 30? And yet you're still a Republican? Me thinks too much of that beer screwed up your brain cells.

You sure are a nasty little guy aren't ya?

you clearly can dish it out but can't take it.

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[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] 18Victorious_Fize

When you're 18, you make dumb choices, like voting Democrat.

You're a Bosniak, right? I remember hearing that. Why do you support Republicans so much? o.o

Wasn't it Clinton that helped stop Muslim genocide in Balkan wars? I don't think it's a good idea for a Muslim to be on the right wing platform of a Christian-dominated country...

Yeah he did. So did the Republican led congress that convinced him. I voted for Clinton, and I didn't vote for Bush neither term. Also, why should I support a party that has socialist left wing ideals, that are reminiscent of the same government responsible for the genocide of my people. I disagree with Christians, but they're not trying to suppress me, the left does. Leftism turns everything upside down. Christians helped me come to this country knowing I was Muslim. OMG, the horror. I am a true liberal. Our country was conservative on social issues, and liberal on everything else. Look which party supports gay marriage, less religious freedom, more illegal immigration, socialist policies, and authoritarian laws restricting freedoms, and centralized government economic plan of spend and expand. Which party protects murderers from death row, but have no problem with killing a fetus? The only problem I have with Republicans are current wars. They need to end.
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supports gay marriage

authoritarian laws restricting freedoms DevilMightCry

Opposing gay marriage is restricting freedoms. :|

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#129 DevilMightCry
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[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"]

supports gay marriage

authoritarian laws restricting freedoms chessmaster1989

Opposing gay marriage is restricting freedoms. :|

I find gay marriage to be an abomination. However, I find it completely reasonable to give them most benefits as a married couple have received like visitation rights, inheritance, etc...
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"]

supports gay marriage

authoritarian laws restricting freedoms DevilMightCry

Opposing gay marriage is restricting freedoms. :|

I find gay marriage to be an abomination.

I find it hard to take you seriously when you complain about restricting freedoms and then spew bullsh*t like this. Well at least you support visitation rights and such so I'll give you some credit there.

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[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Opposing gay marriage is restricting freedoms. :|

chessmaster1989

I find gay marriage to be an abomination.

I find it hard to take you seriously when you complain about restricting freedoms and then spew bullsh*t like this. Well at least you support visitation rights and such so I'll give you some credit there.

I treat gays with dignity and grace. And I find them to be people. That's all. I am sure you disagree with my views. That's fine. You can't change my mind on it.
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#132 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"] I find gay marriage to be an abomination.DevilMightCry

I find it hard to take you seriously when you complain about restricting freedoms and then spew bullsh*t like this. Well at least you support visitation rights and such so I'll give you some credit there.

I treat gays with dignity and grace. And I find them to be people. That's all. I am sure you disagree with my views. That's fine. You can't change my mind on it.

I you treat gays with dignity and grace and find them to be people, then how can you find gay marriage to be an abomination? It doesn't make sense.

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[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

I find it hard to take you seriously when you complain about restricting freedoms and then spew bullsh*t like this. Well at least you support visitation rights and such so I'll give you some credit there.

chessmaster1989

I treat gays with dignity and grace. And I find them to be people. That's all. I am sure you disagree with my views. That's fine. You can't change my mind on it.

I you treat gays with dignity and grace and find them to be people, then how can you find gay marriage to be an abomination? It doesn't make sense.

Doesn't make sense to you maybe. Makes perfect sense to me to treat them like everyone else, except to support their efforts to change the fabric of society on it's head. For example, I am pro choice, but I would NEVER, consider an abortion to be an option unless it's rape, incest, or life threatening to the mother. There is such thing as a gray area. But, enough about me.
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"] I treat gays with dignity and grace. And I find them to be people. That's all. I am sure you disagree with my views. That's fine. You can't change my mind on it. DevilMightCry

I you treat gays with dignity and grace and find them to be people, then how can you find gay marriage to be an abomination? It doesn't make sense.

Doesn't make sense to you maybe. Makes perfect sense to me to treat them like everyone else, except to support their efforts to change the fabric of society on it's head. For example, I am pro choice, but I would NEVER, consider an abortion to be an option unless it's rape, incest, or life threatening to the mother. There is such thing as a gray area. But, enough about me.

How exactly does letting gays marry "change the fabric of society"? :lol:
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#135 DevilMightCry
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[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

I you treat gays with dignity and grace and find them to be people, then how can you find gay marriage to be an abomination? It doesn't make sense.

chessmaster1989
Doesn't make sense to you maybe. Makes perfect sense to me to treat them like everyone else, except to support their efforts to change the fabric of society on it's head. For example, I am pro choice, but I would NEVER, consider an abortion to be an option unless it's rape, incest, or life threatening to the mother. There is such thing as a gray area. But, enough about me.

How exactly does letting gays marry "change the fabric of society"? :lol:

Because I believe Homosexuality to be wrong, and efforts to "normalize" it.
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#136 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="DevilMightCry"] Doesn't make sense to you maybe. Makes perfect sense to me to treat them like everyone else, except to support their efforts to change the fabric of society on it's head. For example, I am pro choice, but I would NEVER, consider an abortion to be an option unless it's rape, incest, or life threatening to the mother. There is such thing as a gray area. But, enough about me.

How exactly does letting gays marry "change the fabric of society"? :lol:

Because I believe Homosexuality to be wrong, and efforts to "normalize" it.

And that's an opinion I have absolutely no respect for.
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="DevilMightCry"] Doesn't make sense to you maybe. Makes perfect sense to me to treat them like everyone else, except to support their efforts to change the fabric of society on it's head. For example, I am pro choice, but I would NEVER, consider an abortion to be an option unless it's rape, incest, or life threatening to the mother. There is such thing as a gray area. But, enough about me.DevilMightCry
How exactly does letting gays marry "change the fabric of society"? :lol:

Because I believe Homosexuality to be wrong, and efforts to "normalize" it.

It's depressing that a lot of people feel the same way as you.

Oh well, enjoy being stuck on the wrong side of history because gay marriage and homosexuality being seen as normal is inevitable.

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#139 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Bad Fox News, bad. Don't give out the name of Navy Seals. Bad form.

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#140 SuperKaio-ken
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I guess they're heroes now, just like Wikileaks.thegerg
Completely different really

Wikileaks released private information that the U.S government was hiding from its own people about their countries actions. The media took this and reshaped it into a possible "national threat" and the people being the morons they are didn't like what they were told and wanted the main person behind it (Julian assange) to be put on trial and Bradley Mannings to be put in prison for life or executed. God forbid the people get told the truth about their own country.

Do you understand why this is ridiculous? Wikileaks did the job all the major media corporations should be doing and that is exposing the United States people to the truth. If the people in the U.S were half smart at all they would want Mannings released and Assange left alone. Instead they put up these false allegations towards Assange which they are using that to try and get him into a country where he can be expedited to the United States and are putting Mannings through inhumane bullsh*t, refusing to give him a fair trial all because he accessed and released something he shouldn't have. They are treating him worse than they do murders and rapists.

and how much do you want to bet the girls who are out against Assange are being paid under the table?



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[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

I you treat gays with dignity and grace and find them to be people, then how can you find gay marriage to be an abomination? It doesn't make sense.

chessmaster1989
Doesn't make sense to you maybe. Makes perfect sense to me to treat them like everyone else, except to support their efforts to change the fabric of society on it's head. For example, I am pro choice, but I would NEVER, consider an abortion to be an option unless it's rape, incest, or life threatening to the mother. There is such thing as a gray area. But, enough about me.

How exactly does letting gays marry "change the fabric of society"? :lol:

Because I believe Homosexuality to be wrong, and efforts to "normalize" it.
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#142 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="DevilMightCry"] Doesn't make sense to you maybe. Makes perfect sense to me to treat them like everyone else, except to support their efforts to change the fabric of society on it's head. For example, I am pro choice, but I would NEVER, consider an abortion to be an option unless it's rape, incest, or life threatening to the mother. There is such thing as a gray area. But, enough about me.

How exactly does letting gays marry "change the fabric of society"? :lol:

Because I believe Homosexuality to be wrong, and efforts to "normalize" it.

This is why I hate a lot of conservatives^
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#143 DevilMightCry
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] How exactly does letting gays marry "change the fabric of society"? :lol:

Because I believe Homosexuality to be wrong, and efforts to "normalize" it.

This is why I hate a lot of conservatives^

Haters gonna hate.
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#144 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="thegerg"]I guess they're heroes now, just like Wikileaks.SuperKaio-ken

Completely different really

Wikileaks released private information that the U.S government was hiding from its own people about their countries actions. The media took this and reshaped it into a possible "national threat" and the people being the morons they are didn't like what they were told and wanted the main person behind it (Julian assange) to be put on trial and Bradley Mannings to be put in prison for life or executed. God forbid the people get told the truth about their own country.

Do you understand why this is ridiculous? Wikileaks did the job all the major media corporations should be doing and that is exposing the United States people to the truth. If the people in the U.S were half smart at all they would want Mannings released and Assange left alone. Instead they put up these false allegations towards Assange which they are using that to try and get him into a country where he can be expedited to the United States and are putting Mannings through inhumane bullsh*t, refusing to give him a fair trial all because he accessed and released something he shouldn't have. They are treating him worse than they do murders and rapists.

and how much do you want to bet the girls who are out against Assange are being paid under the table?



whats wrong with that exactly?

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#145 worlock77
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[QUOTE="DeX2010"] Wikileaks was critisised because it endagered intelligence operatives security, as well as destroyed some countries' international relations with the USA..TheWalkingGhost
Tell this to warlock. Hating Fox News for this but supporting Wikileaks is hypocritical.

I never supported Wikileaks. I'm pretty indifferent to it actually. Criticizing someone for a stance they haven't taken is moronic.

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#146 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

- Wikileaks didn't realase any information that put anyone in any danger. Simply having personal information public does not endanger someone in and of itself. Someone's identity being concealed because that knowledge being public could endanger them is entirely different.

- So you think it's fair that he or his family might now be put in danger just because he decided to write a book?

CreasianDevaili

a) They've released information as to the addresses etc of people affiliated with controversial groups associated with violence and such. So yes they did. BNP is one. Lets not mince words here and just forgo the usual BS and agree to disagree I guess?

b) Hell yes. He is part of that family. He decides to write a book on a very high profile event that was essentially an assassination? If he has decided that it was worth putting his family in danger over some money then why does the rest of the world need to pick up the slack? No one here is saying that we hope his family gets hurts. All any few are saying is that this is a consenquence. A rational one. A common sense one. A consenquence a damn ex seal should understand. That anyone writing anything on this not as a proposed fanfic but as an actual the dealer of death would garner great efforts to find who they were? Especially as outside the goverment channels and solely through the private sector ones?

A: And were these protected identities? Does associating with the British National Party somehow entitle one to anonymity? Is one's life endanger by associating with the BNP?

B: So do you feel that the federal witness protection program should publically release the assumed name and current whereabouts of former FBI agent Joseph Pistone, a.k.a. "Donnie Brasco" (you may have read his book or, more likely, seen the movie with Johnny Depp and Al Pachino)?

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#147 ImaPirate0202
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The author should of seen this coming.