Gaza looks like a concentration camp

[QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]Whoever is disguised of Israel's action is an anti-Semite. ffaf666

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Mehdi1984"] LOL... you're avoiding the question. Do you believe Hamas was shooting rockets into Israel during the ceasefire? Even thought the Israeli spokesman for the Prime Minister said they hadn't? Yes or no.Mehdi1984

[QUOTE="ffaf666"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"]Whoever is disguised of Israel's action is an anti-Semite. Ultimate-Playa

[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Are you saying there are no rocket attacks in that time frame at all? I didn't say Hamas had to get it's own hands dirty.;)LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Are you saying there are no rocket attacks in that time frame at all? I didn't say Hamas had to get it's own hands dirty.;)LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"][QUOTE="ffaf666"] yep thats true......however the jews who are against israel are the worst, they are self-hating jews. Must report them to the ADL pronto.ffaf666

[QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"] Incorrect, the emotional damage dealt to Jews have been irreparable. Also, the moral equivalency between Hamas, a radical Islamic terrorist group whose anti-Semitic charter cites the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and Israel, the only democracy in the Middle East and perhaps America's greatest ally in the world.Vandalvideo

Ron paul admitted that hamas was funded by israel and Usa, its on youtube.ffaf666

[QUOTE="ffaf666"]Ron paul admitted that hamas was funded by israel and Usa, its on youtube.Mehdi1984

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Mehdi1984"] You didn't say, because you are afraid to flatly admit that Hamas did not fire any rockets during the cease-fire. Admitting it would be the first step of admitting Israel was in the wrong here. Mehdi1984

In fact, [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Jihad_Movement_in_Palestine]this states they have worked with Hamas.;)

It's an excerpt I quoted from our favorite Abraham Foxman.Ultimate-Playa

Wow way to read posts. I've answered that twice now. I believe Hamas was involved...oh they may have a group of militants do the actually dirty work but their fingerprints are there. As for the prime minister you keep allegedly quoting...I'm guessing he's going by the groups admitting they did it. Doesn't mean Hamas isn't involved behind the scenes you know.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Uh no. I don't believe Hamas is innocent. And I'm not naive enough to believe they don't have a means to accomplish what they wish.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Mehdi1984"] Once again: Do you believe Hamas was shooting rockets into Israel during the ceasefire? Even thought the Israeli spokesman for the Prime Minister said they hadn't? Why are you unable to answer one of the most pivotal questions of this entire conflict?Mehdi1984

[QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"] It's an excerpt I quoted from our favorite Abraham Foxman.Vandalvideo

]Does it? Seems they have in factn worked together in this. So while a conspiracy..not a theory.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Ultimate-Playa"] It's an excerpt I quoted from our favorite Abraham Foxman.Ultimate-Playa

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]]Does it? Seems they have in factn worked together in this. So while a conspiracy..not a theory.Vandalvideo

Islamic Jihad has much in common with Hamas. They both have an Islamist agenda, they call for the destruction of Israel, they have cooperated in attacks against Israel, they formed as offshoots of Egypt's Islamic Brotherhood, and they receive funds from Iran.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]]Does it? Seems they have in factn worked together in this. So while a conspiracy..not a theory.LJS9502_basic

Islamic Jihad has much in common with Hamas. They both have an Islamist agenda, they call for the destruction of Israel, they have cooperated in attacks against Israel, they formed as offshoots of Egypt's Islamic Brotherhood, and they receive funds from Iran.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Uhhh, your own link says that Hamas and Islamic Jihad "Have clashed repeatedly." Aside from it being wikipedia, I wouldn't think that constitutes a working relationship.Vandalvideo

Islamic Jihad has much in common with Hamas. They both have an Islamist agenda, they call for the destruction of Israel, they have cooperated in attacks against Israel, they formed as offshoots of Egypt's Islamic Brotherhood, and they receive funds from Iran.

Excerpt from council on human relations...

What attacks is Hamas responsible for?

Hamas is believed to have killed more than five hundred people in more than 350 separate terrorist attacks since 1993. Not all Hamas's attacks have been carried out by suicide bombers. The group has also accepted responsibility for assaults using mortars, short-range rockets, and small arms fire. In 1996, Hamas bombings played an important role in undermining the election hopes of Labor Party leader Shimon Peres, who represented the succession to assassinated Oslo Accords signatory, Yitzhak Rabin. (Likud's Benyamin Netnanyahu, who ran against the accords, won instead). Between 2001 and 2003, in particular, Hamas and its comrades of Palestinian Islamic Jihad carried out dozens of such attacks, ultimately leading Israel to begin construction of a barrier between itself and Palestinian regions.

blogs are not in and of themselves unreputable. If an article outlines conflicts between the two but still finds a common ground for them to work together that speaks volumns as well actually.LJS9502_basic

Excerpt from council on human relations...hat attacks is Hamas responsible for? Hamas is believed to have killed more than five hundred people in more than 350 separate terrorist attacks since 1993. Not all Hamas's attacks have been carried out by suicide bombers. The group has also accepted responsibility for assaults using mortars, short-range rockets, and small arms fire. In 1996, Hamas bombings played an important role in undermining the election hopes of Labor Party leader Shimon Peres, who represented the succession to assassinated Oslo Accords signatory, Yitzhak Rabin. (Likud's Benyamin Netnanyahu, who ran against the accords, won instead). Between 2001 and 2003, in particular, Hamas and its comrades of Palestinian Islamic Jihad carried out dozens of such attacks, ultimately leading Israel to begin construction of a barrier between itself and Palestinian regions.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]blogs are not in and of themselves unreputable. If an article outlines conflicts between the two but still finds a common ground for them to work together that speaks volumns as well actually.Vandalvideo

Excerpt from council on human relations...hat attacks is Hamas responsible for? Hamas is believed to have killed more than five hundred people in more than 350 separate terrorist attacks since 1993. Not all Hamas's attacks have been carried out by suicide bombers. The group has also accepted responsibility for assaults using mortars, short-range rockets, and small arms fire. In 1996, Hamas bombings played an important role in undermining the election hopes of Labor Party leader Shimon Peres, who represented the succession to assassinated Oslo Accords signatory, Yitzhak Rabin. (Likud's Benyamin Netnanyahu, who ran against the accords, won instead). Between 2001 and 2003, in particular, Hamas and its comrades of Palestinian Islamic Jihad carried out dozens of such attacks, ultimately leading Israel to begin construction of a barrier between itself and Palestinian regions.

PS your link is old and out of date and before the time frame I am referring to so it's invalid.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Uhhh, your own link says that Hamas and Islamic Jihad "Have clashed repeatedly." Aside from it being wikipedia, I wouldn't think that constitutes a working relationship.Vandalvideo

Islamic Jihad has much in common with Hamas. They both have an Islamist agenda, they call for the destruction of Israel, they have cooperated in attacks against Israel, they formed as offshoots of Egypt's Islamic Brotherhood, and they receive funds from Iran.

]Which does not mean the two would not work together nor would it mean they haven't figured out Fatah by now.:|LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]]Which does not mean the two would not work together nor would it mean they haven't figured out Fatah by now.:|Vandalvideo

Seems to suggest some cooperation here..no?

I think it's quite clear at this point that LJ doesn't actually know what he's talking about. Rather he is emotionally attached to Israel, and as such is defending it with bizarre stories that he has fabricated. This is clearly seen in his inability to write coherent and comprehensive arguments against the main points being presented to him. Not to mention, the citation he is doing is quite clearly desperate on-the-spot google searches, in attempts to find articles that somewhat fit with his stories. Anyone who actually follows developing events, like the situation in Gaza, would be able to cite sources from the top of their head. Heck, half these articles he has posted are random and not even aligned with the arguments he presents.Mehdi1984

[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"] I think it's quite clear at this point that LJ doesn't actually know what he's talking about. Rather he is emotionally attached to Israel, and as such is defending it with bizarre stories that he has fabricated. This is clearly seen in his inability to write coherent and comprehensive arguments against the main points being presented to him. Not to mention, the citation he is doing is quite clearly desperate on-the-spot google searches, in attempts to find articles that somewhat fit with his stories. Anyone who actually follows developing events, like the situation in Gaza, would be able to cite sources from the top of their head. Heck, half these articles he has posted are random and not even aligned with the arguments he presents.LJS9502_basic

His username is clearly Pakistani. Therefore he probably has Arab descent.

[QUOTE="Devour2Survive"][QUOTE="duxup"]The pope would seem to agree.II_Seraphim_II

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="Devour2Survive"] Racist mod is racist.Devour2Survive

Sorry for jumping to conclusions :P Anyways, I think he mentioned the Pope because it was relevant. The Pope's aid said similar things, so I guess it makes sense to mention the Pope :P.

On another note, people really need to understand what the word "Semite" really means, because people obviously fail to grasp that Palestinians are also Semites :?

[QUOTE="Mehdi1984"] I think it's quite clear at this point that LJ doesn't actually know what he's talking about. Rather he is emotionally attached to Israel, and as such is defending it with bizarre stories that he has fabricated. This is clearly seen in his inability to write coherent and comprehensive arguments against the main points being presented to him. Not to mention, the citation he is doing is quite clearly desperate on-the-spot google searches, in attempts to find articles that somewhat fit with his stories. Anyone who actually follows developing events, like the situation in Gaza, would be able to cite sources from the top of their head. Heck, half these articles he has posted are random and not even aligned with the arguments he presents.LJS9502_basic

His username is clearly Pakistani. Therefore he probably has Arab descent.

ghoklebutter

His username is clearly Pakistani. Therefore he probably has Arab descent.

ghoklebutter

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

His username is clearly Pakistani. Therefore he probably has Arab descent.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

His username is clearly Pakistani. Therefore he probably has Arab descent.

Mehdi1984

Uhh, why?

I was just speculating. :|

I know someone whose name is Medhi and he is an Arab Muslim.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

His username is clearly Pakistani. Therefore he probably has Arab descent.

LJS9502_basic

pro israeli cant even admit that they did a mistake. You just still dehumanise the people you occupy, has the desire for land hardned your heart? No need to take 2000 years or so of being stateless out on the palestinians. You no there was no troble between the non jewish arabs and the jews before zionism.ffaf666

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

His username is clearly Pakistani. Therefore he probably has Arab descent.

Ultimate-Playa

This isn't religious. So you're saying it's alright for Hamas to bomb the **** out of Israel with to consequences?chrisrooR

And in todays news:

Hamas, bombs the **** out of israel leaving none other than a stagering and frightfull 1 civilian death, this is simply monstruous and should not be tolerated. Israel retaliated with infinite wisdom and in the name of good and justice, by using "holy" rockets (that god would even aprove of) how many were killed? an insignificant 250+ babies.

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]This isn't religious. So you're saying it's alright for Hamas to bomb the **** out of Israel with to consequences?Yongying

And in todays news:

Hamas, bombs the **** out of israel leaving none other than a stagering and frightfull 1 civilian death, this is simply monstruous and should not be tolerated. Israel retaliated with infinite wisdom and in the name of good and justice, by using "holy" rockets (that god would even aprove of) how many were killed? an insignificant 250+ babies.

:lol: Anoter out of date article seriously. 18 months old. The fact that the Islamic Jihand is working freeling in Hamas controlled Gaza without any reprisals is pretty clear as to the two groups working together against their common enemy. Are you telling me they haven't figured out what Fatah was trying to do a couple years ago while the rest of the world has? You must assume they don't read.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Yongying"]

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]This isn't religious. So you're saying it's alright for Hamas to bomb the **** out of Israel with to consequences?chrisrooR

And in todays news:

Hamas, bombs the **** out of israel leaving none other than a stagering and frightfull 1 civilian death, this is simply monstruous and should not be tolerated. Israel retaliated with infinite wisdom and in the name of good and justice, by using "holy" rockets (that god would even aprove of) how many were killed? an insignificant 250+ babies.

Oh i understand what you was trying to say, so the terrorists were armed with babies, and the terrorists should be disarmed first? right?Yongying