Girl mistakes gun for Wii controller - kills herself

[QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"]

2. We can push for international laws banning guns, we can also have better international cooperation.Chaos_HL21

So you want to also disarm the armies of the World too? For the most part the big name Firearms manufacturers have both civilian and police/miliatry roles. Fabrique Nationale and Beretta, and also others have contracts with the worlds nations to make weapons. You can not ban the making of firearms, you can only disarm the people who follow the law.

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"]

2. We can push for international laws banning guns, we can also have better international cooperation.Atheists_Pwn

So you want to also disarm the armies of the World too? For the most part the big name Firearms manufacturers have both civilian and police/miliatry roles. Fabrique Nationale and Beretta, and also others have contracts with the worlds nations to make weapons. You can not ban the making of firearms, you can only disarm the people who follow the law.

Stopping production and confiscation of current firearms would only target the people who follow the law. I am pretty sure that the criminals would not turn it their weapons that they may of gotten illegaly. So the price of firearms may go up alittle bit but the criminals would still have them. They would also know that the people they target would not have any weapons on them. For ammo, there is a thing called reloading, which is using the spend brass to make more bullets.

Also for the black market, I am pretty sure you can get automatic weapons there. Guess what, those weapons were not gotten legally. Or if so they would be sold at a lost because to legally get an automatic you need to pay alot more money.

It also should be noted that with corruption the weapons that were going to the miliatary could "fall of the truck" and find their way to the black market.

[QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

So you want to also disarm the armies of the World too? For the most part the big name Firearms manufacturers have both civilian and police/miliatry roles. Fabrique Nationale and Beretta, and also others have contracts with the worlds nations to make weapons. You can not ban the making of firearms, you can only disarm the people who follow the law.

Chaos_HL21

Stopping production and confiscation of current firearms would only target the people who follow the law. I am pretty sure that the criminals would not turn it their weapons that they may of gotten illegaly. So the price of firearms may go up alittle bit but the criminals would still have them. They would also know that the people they target would not have any weapons on them. For ammo, there is a thing called reloading, which is using the spend brass to make more bullets.

Also for the black market, I am pretty sure you can get automatic weapons there. Guess what, those weapons were not gotten legally. Or if so they would be sold at a lost because to legally get an automatic you need to pay alot more money.

It also should be noted that with corruption the weapons that were going to the miliatary could "fall of the truck" and find their way to the black market.

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

Stopping production and confiscation of current firearms would only target the people who follow the law. I am pretty sure that the criminals would not turn it their weapons that they may of gotten illegaly. So the price of firearms may go up alittle bit but the criminals would still have them. They would also know that the people they target would not have any weapons on them. For ammo, there is a thing called reloading, which is using the spend brass to make more bullets.

Also for the black market, I am pretty sure you can get automatic weapons there. Guess what, those weapons were not gotten legally. Or if so they would be sold at a lost because to legally get an automatic you need to pay alot more money.

It also should be noted that with corruption the weapons that were going to the miliatary could "fall of the truck" and find their way to the black market.

Atheists_Pwn

Yeah going to jail really stops crimianls. In the case of going to jail for a very long time for using a gun ina crime then they would have the criminals just kill the person, and rob them.

There would be new guns made, just not for civilians, and performing maintenace (ie cleaning) isn't that hard, and there would also be bullets made, just not for civilians, but you also just ingore my point about reloading the bullets. All you need to reload is the equipment, which would probably be illegal to own, but that never stop crimianls. Gunpowder, thespend brass, and the bullettip.

There is noway something like that would work, there would be nations who would not care about international cooperation, and it would not stop the making of guns. There would still be weapons for the military andpolice, and with corruption weapons will find there way into the hands of the black market.

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"]

2. We can push for international laws banning guns, we can also have better international cooperation.Atheists_Pwn

So you want to also disarm the armies of the World too? For the most part the big name Firearms manufacturers have both civilian and police/miliatry roles. Fabrique Nationale and Beretta, and also others have contracts with the worlds nations to make weapons. You can not ban the making of firearms, you can only disarm the people who follow the law.

This is a highly nieve and unrealistic view.. Are you aware that countries like the United States, Great Britian, France, and Israel are the largest arms dealers in the world.. Its a lucractive business inwhich the countires make billions doing so.. Good luck trying to stop that.

Don't blame Nintendo. Who the hell leaves a gun on a table with a child in the home?

Forever_Posting

[QUOTE="Forever_Posting"]

Don't blame Nintendo. Who the hell leaves a gun on a table with a child in the home?

guynamedbilly

[QUOTE="guynamedbilly"][QUOTE="Forever_Posting"]

Don't blame Nintendo. Who the hell leaves a gun on a table with a child in the home?

T_P_O

This sounds suspicious to me...what kind of parent would not put their gun away when they had a 3 year old child in the house no matter what the reason they brought it out to begin with? And the father "heard a prowler" so he kept the gun out so he could grab it when necessary? That's just ridiculous. If he did hear a prowler, why did he not figure the situation before he went running to grab a gun ready to shoot someone up. They were probably hicks. Stupid parents. socked_feet

Getting sprayed isnt lethal, so its no wonder theyre morewilling. Your body still works, but youre in shock and sensory data cannot be collected as well. Atheists_Pwn

[QUOTE="wstfld"]Child neglect resulting in death is what they should be charged with. Just because it's an accident doesn't mean they shouldn't be punished in some degree. [QUOTE="krs762"]

It's the parents fault for leaving a weapon in the open and it's Nintendo's fault in some portion for making a gun controller that looks very similar to a real handgun. I honestly thought that it was a Barreta 9mm at first glance. So a better forum topic would be "Is nintendo making thier controllers too lifelike?" (Plus I don't see why a child should be playing a game that involves any toy gun but that's just a personal opinion)

JustPlainLucas

I knew the difference between a nintendo zapper and a real gun. Maybe it's because I was exposed to it at an early age. A 3 year old knows a lot, trust me. My niece knows like every fast food area out there that I don't even know.Gaming-Planet

Yeah you're right sorry about that I was just trying to post it really quick and I wasn't thinking straight :P

It's definitley tragic. But I wouldn't so much as blame the plastic controller as ask the question why the girl's parents left a loaded gun near their daughter where she could find it and get at it in the first place.

Don't blame Nintendo. Who the hell leaves a gun on a table with a child in the home?

Forever_Posting

[QUOTE="socked_feet"]This sounds suspicious to me...what kind of parent would not put their gun away when they had a 3 year old child in the house no matter what the reason they brought it out to begin with? And the father "heard a prowler" so he kept the gun out so he could grab it when necessary? That's just ridiculous. If he did hear a prowler, why did he not figure the situation before he went running to grab a gun ready to shoot someone up. They were probably hicks. Stupid parents. Wolls

What kind of moron leaves a loaded weapon out in the open? Let alone when there are small children in the house.

That thing is oddly realistic

Wii fail, lulz.

1.) The father is full of fail for leaving the gun there were a small child can access it

2.) The mom was in the room the whole time? Uh, isn't it motherly to WATCH your children?

3.) Who the **** lets their kid play games that need pretend guns?? Was she playing RE?

Natural selection at work.

harjyotbanwait

Are you insane? It was not the child's fault! Natural selection is when a person or animal is stupid and gets killed because of their stupidity. This is just a three year old who got shot because of someone else's stupidity. If a child had blue kool-aid in a cup, then somebody put anti-freeze in a cup next to it, and the child drank it, who's fault would it be? This is NOT natural selection. Wait until something like that happens to you, would you call it natural selection? Natural selection would be if the fathers got shot.

Thats horrible, for the parents responsible though, stupidity has it price.

You know, I think this is less about her confusing a real gun with a Wii peripheral and more about bad parents leaving firearms in a child's reach :|

viva_hate

this

a gun shouldn't be any where near a child that age, they shouldn't even have a gun in the house hold. if so locked up after use. this is horrible to read.

Don't blame Nintendo. Who the hell leaves a gun on a table with a child in the home?

Forever_Posting

Exactly. This is just fail parenting.

Another set of dumb parents, and another dead kid who could have lived to be anything she wanted to be. Facepalm, gg, w/e.

For all who are against guns, yes, it would be nice to have a world without violence. But that is NEVER and I repeat NEVER going to happen. There will always be someone who is greedy and we have to be able to stop that person.

Next, I can pretty much bet that there will another like Hitler maybe not exacly like him but the same sort of thing. And what will we do to stop him? Go up to him and scream NO!!! We need guns in case a crisis occurs.

Has anyone ever herd the saying, in the country of blind men the man with sight rules over all? That is what it would be like if we had no guns. The strongest man, or the man who could manufacture his own gun and ammo would rule over all the others. He would be above the law and nobody could do anything about it. It would be like walking right into an unprotected school with a gun, you could tell everyone to do whatever you want.

Another thing have you ever herd of a bow-and-arrow? Or a sword? Or a knife? We can't ban everything people of our lives would be SCREWED!!! We need something like this, for cutting or getting meat and fish. And geting veggies (if your a vegitarian.) There will always be a way of making a weapon. Period. No questions asked. And a reson for weapons like this.

So think before you say you want guns banned. How will you answer all of these problems. I'm not saying it wouldn't be great to have a world without violence and weapons. I'm just saying it isn't possible.

we dont need guns in a civilized societyAtheists_Pwn

I'm surprised it took this long for "blame the gun" or "blame society's attitude towards guns" posts to appear.

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"]

2. We can push for international laws banning guns, we can also have better international cooperation.Atheists_Pwn

So you want to also disarm the armies of the World too? For the most part the big name Firearms manufacturers have both civilian and police/miliatry roles. Fabrique Nationale and Beretta, and also others have contracts with the worlds nations to make weapons. You can not ban the making of firearms, you can only disarm the people who follow the law.

Oh, and let's not forget that it would be impossible to actually prosecute every single offender. Americans are sympathetic to gun owners and the gun-rights movement. In many states, juries simply would not convict people for simple possession of firearms that were once perfectly legal. Furthermore, there's the problem of people who own guns and refuse to turn them in. Americans love their guns, and a whole lot of them aren't going to turn them in just because some Congressman or President asks them to. What then? We dont have records of sale, and therefore no evidence that they have the guns or the ammo, so you could never actually get a search warrant. What then? You either make an exception to the exclusionary rule or allow these people to keep their guns.

An outright ban on guns in America would not only erode our 2nd amendment rights, it would also erode our 4th amendment rights.

[QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

So you want to also disarm the armies of the World too? For the most part the big name Firearms manufacturers have both civilian and police/miliatry roles. Fabrique Nationale and Beretta, and also others have contracts with the worlds nations to make weapons. You can not ban the making of firearms, you can only disarm the people who follow the law.

danwallacefan

Oh, and let's not forget that it would be impossible to actually prosecute every single offender. Americans are sympathetic to gun owners and the gun-rights movement. In many states, juries simply would not convict people for simple possession of firearms that were once perfectly legal. Furthermore, there's the problem of people who own guns and refuse to turn them in. Americans love their guns, and a whole lot of them aren't going to turn them in just because some Congressman or President asks them to. What then? We dont have records of sale, and therefore no evidence that they have the guns or the ammo, so you could never actually get a search warrant. What then? You either make an exception to the exclusionary rule or allow these people to keep their guns.

An outright ban on guns in America would not only erode our 2nd amendment rights, it would also erode our 4th amendment rights.

I 100% agree. who would be naive enough to think that guns can be totally eliminated from society, much less American society? we have failed to control a single narcotic or illegal substance in our countries history. How could we possibly destroy all guns especially with the millions of citizens who are against it? its laughable. Criminals will find a way to get fire-arms and they will be stronger and less opposed than ever. most gun crimes are committed with illegally owned or purchased firearms anyway. whether or not gun control is fair or constitutional is irrelevant. the fact is, gun control wont work in America. end of story. there are other ways to eliminate crime. Pointing the finger at guns is not going to solve anything. our justice system is a joke and our prisons produce more criminals than they rehabilitate. murderers only have only a .02% chance of getting the death penalty and over 60% are let out in under 25 years (even in cases that are supposedly "without parole"). we allow criminals to congregate and gain connections in prison, while at the same time they become stronger and more hardened, serious criminals. we try to control marijuana but our efforts only help to drive prices up and aid organized crime (while we waste billions of dollars on it too). Dont even get me started on our education system and the dropout rate. All this is going on and all you liberals can think of is disarming our law abiding citizens? you realize that they are who you are targeting, right? we already go through efforts to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. the people who are legally able to purchase guns are our citizens with clean criminal and mental records. do you honestly think that going through efforts to disarm them is going to help the situation (in light of all these other issues)? its a joke. gun control is a joke and a waste of time.

[QUOTE="danwallacefan"]

[QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"] stopping production and confiscation of current firearms = less likely a criminal can ever get one. No new fire arms, and the price of fire arms and ammo would be very high. The only reason the black market can have guns is because of the fact that guns are LEGAL to produce. You're not going to get black market manufacturing. its too complicated to do. Arguments against contemporary gun regulation cannot be applied to arguments to disarm entirely. arbitor365

Oh, and let's not forget that it would be impossible to actually prosecute every single offender. Americans are sympathetic to gun owners and the gun-rights movement. In many states, juries simply would not convict people for simple possession of firearms that were once perfectly legal. Furthermore, there's the problem of people who own guns and refuse to turn them in. Americans love their guns, and a whole lot of them aren't going to turn them in just because some Congressman or President asks them to. What then? We dont have records of sale, and therefore no evidence that they have the guns or the ammo, so you could never actually get a search warrant. What then? You either make an exception to the exclusionary rule or allow these people to keep their guns.

An outright ban on guns in America would not only erode our 2nd amendment rights, it would also erode our 4th amendment rights.

I 100% agree. who would be naive enough to think that guns can be totally eliminated from society, much less American society? we have failed to control a single narcotic or illegal substance in our countries history. How could we possibly destroy all guns especially with the millions of citizens who are against it? its laughable. Criminals will find a way to get fire-arms and they will be stronger and less opposed than ever. most gun crimes are committed with illegally owned or purchased firearms anyway. whether or not gun control is fair or constitutional is irrelevant. the fact is, gun control wont work in America. end of story. there are other ways to eliminate crime. Pointing the finger at guns is not going to solve anything. our justice system is a joke and our prisons produce more criminals than they rehabilitate. murderers only have only a .02% chance of getting the death penalty and over 60% are let out in under 25 years (even in cases that are supposedly "without parole"). we allow criminals to congregate and gain connections in prison, while at the same time they become stronger and more hardened, serious criminals. we try to control marijuana but our efforts only help to drive prices up and aid organized crime (while we waste billions of dollars on it too). Dont even get me started on our education system and the dropout rate. All this is going on and all you liberals can think of is disarming our law abiding citizens? you realize that they are who you are targeting, right? we already go through efforts to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. the people who are legally able to purchase guns are our citizens with clean criminal and mental records. do you honestly think that going through efforts to disarm them is going to help the situation (in light of all these other issues)? its a joke. gun control is a joke and a waste of time.

Yes, and there is no way that, when a problem arises we can fight it. Without firearmes in the police corps we could never catch a criminal or stop a killing. What would we use. A butter knife. What a joke!!!

Stupid parents. What were they thinking leaving a gun that was loaded laying around?racing1750

the parents defeitely should share the blame. but seriously, the kid was pretty stupid too. who would mistake this

for this

and then try and shoot themself in the face with it? thats just natural selection at work.

the parents defeitely should share the blame. but seriously, the kid was pretty stupid too. who would mistake this

*wrong gun peripheral*

for this

*gun*

and then try and shoot themself in the face with it? thats just natural selection at work.arbitor365

But that wasn't the gun peripheral used. There is a picture in the OP. Hell, I could have confused the peripheral for a real thing, too, if I hadn't actually scrutinized the picture.

if only she had one of these....

Why in the world would they have a controller look that realistic in the first place?? But then again, what gun owner leaves his pistol just sitting around? Sad world. I haven't even seen those controllers? What games are they for?

[QUOTE="racing1750"]Stupid parents. What were they thinking leaving a gun that was loaded laying around?arbitor365

the parents defeitely should share the blame. but seriously, the kid was pretty stupid too. who would mistake this

for this

and then try and shoot themself in the face with it? thats just natural selection at work.

Where is the orange cap (that Usally gets ripped off lol)8)

[QUOTE="racing1750"]Stupid parents. What were they thinking leaving a gun that was loaded laying around?arbitor365

the parents defeitely should share the blame. but seriously, the kid was pretty stupid too. who would mistake this

for this

and then try and shoot themself in the face with it? thats just natural selection at work.

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

[QUOTE="racing1750"]Stupid parents. What were they thinking leaving a gun that was loaded laying around?thesoxpwnyou

the parents defeitely should share the blame. but seriously, the kid was pretty stupid too. who would mistake this

for this

and then try and shoot themself in the face with it? thats just natural selection at work.

GUYS SHE WAS THREEEEEEE YEARS OLD.. Thats 1 YEAR OLDER then 2.. GET IT? We have all our child proof medicines, and hazardous things out of reach because at that age the child is a danger to their own selves that they have to be watched.. Lets say if it was a regular wii gun, and it looked completely different.. I fail to see how that would make teh child stupid, she was three yeras old.

[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]Well I guess it's game over for her.fmacraze

I don't care how old the girl is, this is the girls fault not Nintendo. The girl was more retarded enough to know what the difference between a gun and a Wii controller is, like come on I seen kids her age more smarter then her. gameroz

Lets havea experiment, place a loaded guna nd a wiigun next to each other.. Lets go see how many 3 year olds kill themselves.. All three year olds are dumb by nature and can not take care of themselves..

I don't care how old the girl is, this is the girls fault not Nintendo. The girl was more retarded enough to know what the difference between a gun and a Wii controller is, like come on I seen kids her age more smarter then her. gameroz