Uh....What are girls? :|
Anyway, each side has their own problems, you just have to realize that, accept it, and move toward your goal in a constructive manner.
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Uh....What are girls? :|
Anyway, each side has their own problems, you just have to realize that, accept it, and move toward your goal in a constructive manner.
They don't have to do anything to find guys. All they have to do is exist and the guys who approach first get the girls. n_kors
In highschool land, that generalization sort of works. But your perspective is so from the outside of what's going on. You're using examples you see at school? Remember, things are actually going on in these peopes lives you're not seeing, these two become friends, then consensually decide to date. Your description of the situation is pretty naive. Yes, the occasional young woman will immediately 'fall in lust' with a guy and the guy will do the same for her, so they'll decide to date quickly. And vice versa, of course. Outside of the land of puppy love, it's a very deep search for both sexes.
That's why most attractive girils are taken.n_kors
Attractive is subjective. I know the attractive cliche you're talking about, but remember, there are people looking for things that look nothing like the cliche. I could give a very long speech as to why the stereotypically 'attractive' young ladies are often taken, but I'll save it unless you or someone else would like me to. It's actually pretty simple.
Girls don't hold out for the guy who best fist their needs, they just go with the first guy who makes them laugh.n_kors
Laughter = a good time. Young people are mostly looking for a good time. The logic is, "If I date so and so, the reltionship will be a fun time filled with laughter." Are you really expecting bubbly people to pick the deep thinking loner? It's not that they go for the first person that comes along and makes them laugh either, again you're forgetting the fact that these people have lives, it seems to me anyway. They become friends and consensually decide to date. It's not that it isn't difficult for young girls to find a date, it's just that happy bubbly young people attract happy bubbly young people and have a good time together. Keeping in mind that most of the time these relationships end of failing.
I'm mostly referring to younger, teen to early 20s girls.n_kors
I noticed. :P
I do not believe that it is the men who are the pigs, in this day and age I think it is the women who are the pigs.n_kors
How so? Women have become, in this society, (especially a certain promoted stereotype) the in demand partner. It use to be men, as they provided for and generally were needed by women as soon as possible. But now, society has women on a throne high in the sky, because we no longer need a husband to survive, we're independant and practically treated like gods by the media, so things have switched around. Does that make us "pigs"? No, we can't help how the media portrays us. So women can be more choosy then we use to be for men, (or women) I fail to see how that is a bad thing.
Women get to choose, and they choose whoever comes along first.n_kors
No, not really. And again, it's consensual.
Guys don't have the luxury of choosing which girl comes along first because girls make a habbit of ignoring guys unless they are approached by guys.n_kors
Highschool politics much? People of both sexes generally don't pay much attention to those they do not know. People meet in school, work, through interaction become friends, and consensually decide to date. Your descriptions seem very secluded. Both sexes have difficulty finding the right person, we're both awkward sometimes, and some of us rush in thinking it will be a good time, or because being in a relationship is the thing to do. Bottom line is you're totally off base, look outside of the young crowd and at the real world.
You're wrong, the real problem is, most men have nothing wrong with casual sex, lots of women do. I'm not stereotyping, this is only sometimes. But almost every guy I know would have sex with any girl that would say, 'Wanna have sex?". I'm talking about sex though, not relationships.wemhim
[QUOTE="wemhim"]You're wrong, the real problem is, most men have nothing wrong with casual sex, lots of women do. I'm not stereotyping, this is only sometimes. But almost every guy I know would have sex with any girl that would say, 'Wanna have sex?". I'm talking about sex though, not relationships.GettingTired
thats not really true, times are changing and even girls are becoming the ones who make the first move.
facts are though that life is much easier for men than it is for girls. We still make something like 1.50 more by the hour than women. abuse against women is the most committed crime in the world. if a man and a woman are in line for a promotion, the man usually gets the promotion, men have always been the rulers of nations, regions (for the most part anyway)
men don't get pregnant or deliver babies. men usually have a higher self esteem, they don't worry about their looks or weight nearly as much as women do, nor are our looks half as important as it is for women.
women depend on their looks to date, to get jobs, to manipulate. not saying that those who lack all of these things can't progress in life, it certainly makes things much easier.
like it or not, men have it a lot better than women... sorry ladies :(
[QUOTE="n_kors"]They don't have to do anything to find guys. All they have to do is exist and the guys who approach first get the girls. dhyce
In highschool land, that generalization sort of works. But your perspective is so from the outside of what's going on. You're using examples you see at school? Remember, things are actually going on in these peopes lives you're not seeing, these two become friends, then consensually decide to date. Your description of the situation is pretty naive. Yes, the occasional young woman will immediately 'fall in lust' with a guy and the guy will do the same for her, so they'll decide to date quickly. And vice versa, of course. Outside of the land of puppy love, it's a very deep search for both sexes.
That's why most attractive girils are taken.n_kors
Attractive is subjective. I know the attractive cliche you're talking about, but remember, there are people looking for things that look nothing like the cliche. I could give a very long speech as to why the stereotypically 'attractive' young ladies are often taken, but I'll save it unless you or someone else would like me to. It's actually pretty simple.
Girls don't hold out for the guy who best fist their needs, they just go with the first guy who makes them laugh.n_kors
Laughter = a good time. Young people are mostly looking for a good time. The logic is, "If I date so and so, the reltionship will be a fun time filled with laughter." Are you really expecting bubbly people to pick the deep thinking loner? It's not that they go for the first person that comes along and makes them laugh either, again you're forgetting the fact that these people have lives, it seems to me anyway. They become friends and consensually decide to date. It's not that it isn't difficult for young girls to find a date, it's just that happy bubbly young people attract happy bubbly young people and have a good time together. Keeping in mind that most of the time these relationships end of failing.
I'm mostly referring to younger, teen to early 20s girls.n_kors
I noticed. :P
I do not believe that it is the men who are the pigs, in this day and age I think it is the women who are the pigs.n_kors
How so? Women have become, in this society, (especially a certain promoted stereotype) the in demand partner. It use to be men, as they provided for and generally were needed by women as soon as possible. But now, society has women on a throne high in the sky, because we no longer need a husband to survive, we're independant and practically treated like gods by the media, so things have switched around. Does that make us "pigs"? No, we can't help how the media portrays us. So women can be more choosy then we use to be for men, (or women) I fail to see how that is a bad thing.
Women get to choose, and they choose whoever comes along first.n_kors
No, not really. And again, it's consensual.
Guys don't have the luxury of choosing which girl comes along first because girls make a habbit of ignoring guys unless they are approached by guys.n_kors
Highschool politics much? People of both sexes generally don't pay much attention to those they do not know. People meet in school, work, through interaction become friends, and consensually decide to date. Your descriptions seem very secluded. Both sexes have difficulty finding the right person, we're both awkward sometimes, and some of us rush in thinking it will be a good time, or because being in a relationship is the thing to do. Bottom line is you're totally off base, look outside of the young crowd and at the real world.
As far as which sex approaches who, it is predominately the male who has to approach, and initiate. Trust me, I've tried to be "picked up" by girls before, and it is false, non-existent practice. Girls do not talk to guys. They sit around and wait for guys to talk to them. This is science I'm talking here. It's just the way we function.
Girls don't have it easy,
I could go into the entire anatomic structure of that, but, you know, I'd be modded (again),
and I've been modded a ton lately.
Super attractive girls have it the hardest, because guys are afraid to talk to them, seriously,
both genders feel attraction the same way, I've had gf since I was 14, with only a couple
months off, and I'm a dork, it's not hard dude, no effort required, just see who you feel
compatible with, and go for it.
[QUOTE="dhyce"][QUOTE="n_kors"]They don't have to do anything to find guys. All they have to do is exist and the guys who approach first get the girls. n_kors
In highschool land, that generalization sort of works. But your perspective is so from the outside of what's going on. You're using examples you see at school? Remember, things are actually going on in these peopes lives you're not seeing, these two become friends, then consensually decide to date. Your description of the situation is pretty naive. Yes, the occasional young woman will immediately 'fall in lust' with a guy and the guy will do the same for her, so they'll decide to date quickly. And vice versa, of course. Outside of the land of puppy love, it's a very deep search for both sexes.
That's why most attractive girils are taken.n_kors
Attractive is subjective. I know the attractive cliche you're talking about, but remember, there are people looking for things that look nothing like the cliche. I could give a very long speech as to why the stereotypically 'attractive' young ladies are often taken, but I'll save it unless you or someone else would like me to. It's actually pretty simple.
Girls don't hold out for the guy who best fist their needs, they just go with the first guy who makes them laugh.n_kors
Laughter = a good time. Young people are mostly looking for a good time. The logic is, "If I date so and so, the reltionship will be a fun time filled with laughter." Are you really expecting bubbly people to pick the deep thinking loner? It's not that they go for the first person that comes along and makes them laugh either, again you're forgetting the fact that these people have lives, it seems to me anyway. They become friends and consensually decide to date. It's not that it isn't difficult for young girls to find a date, it's just that happy bubbly young people attract happy bubbly young people and have a good time together. Keeping in mind that most of the time these relationships end of failing.
I'm mostly referring to younger, teen to early 20s girls.n_kors
I noticed. :P
I do not believe that it is the men who are the pigs, in this day and age I think it is the women who are the pigs.n_kors
How so? Women have become, in this society, (especially a certain promoted stereotype) the in demand partner. It use to be men, as they provided for and generally were needed by women as soon as possible. But now, society has women on a throne high in the sky, because we no longer need a husband to survive, we're independant and practically treated like gods by the media, so things have switched around. Does that make us "pigs"? No, we can't help how the media portrays us. So women can be more choosy then we use to be for men, (or women) I fail to see how that is a bad thing.
Women get to choose, and they choose whoever comes along first.n_kors
No, not really. And again, it's consensual.
Guys don't have the luxury of choosing which girl comes along first because girls make a habbit of ignoring guys unless they are approached by guys.n_kors
Highschool politics much? People of both sexes generally don't pay much attention to those they do not know. People meet in school, work, through interaction become friends, and consensually decide to date. Your descriptions seem very secluded. Both sexes have difficulty finding the right person, we're both awkward sometimes, and some of us rush in thinking it will be a good time, or because being in a relationship is the thing to do. Bottom line is you're totally off base, look outside of the young crowd and at the real world.
As far as which sex approaches who, it is predominately the male who has to approach, and initiate. Trust me, I've tried to be "picked up" by girls before, and it is false, non-existent practice. Girls do not talk to guys. They sit around and wait for guys to talk to them. This is science I'm talking here. It's just the way we function.
No, it's a meme, not science, and a Highschool meme at that. The real issue is casual sex, the lack thereof.Uhm...nomastersword007Pretty much summed it up. I don't wait for just anyone, your analogy needs a little work.
I wish we were allowed to ban heretics.[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"]Which puts me on the topic of my current relationship. I made the first move and not him and we turned out just fine.wemhim
(I'm not serious).
I wish we were allowed to ban the non-serious. (I'm not serious either).Which puts me on the topic of my current relationship. I made the first move and not him and we turned out just fine.MissRiotmaker
My gf asked me out too, I was actually too chicken to make the first move,
it's lovely when that happens.
[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"]Which puts me on the topic of my current relationship. I made the first move and not him and we turned out just fine.Andrew_Xavier
My gf asked me out too, I was actually too chicken to make the first move,
it's lovely when that happens.
[QUOTE="wemhim"]I wish we were allowed to ban heretics.[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"]Which puts me on the topic of my current relationship. I made the first move and not him and we turned out just fine.MissRiotmaker
(I'm not serious).
I wish we were allowed to ban the non-serious. (I'm not serious either).But seriously, it seems common to have women and men ask one another out, it's not the 40s anymore.I'm sure it's easy for the attractive girls, sure, but what about those who no one's interested in?SolidSnake35
They are hopeless XD
Which puts me on the topic of my current relationship. I made the first move and not him and we turned out just fine.MissRiotmaker
Why can't more woman be like you and step up?
I have had 1 girlfriend and that was in 6th grade and she asked me. I quite honestly CAN'T ask girls out right now because I am hung up on these anxiety issues I have. I am very sure I have avoidant personality disorder along with general anxiety disorder and social phobia and am not in therapy so I am trying to fight it on my own. A girl actually expressing some interest would really help but that just doesn't happen....
[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"]Which puts me on the topic of my current relationship. I made the first move and not him and we turned out just fine.Thechaninator
Why can't more woman be like you and step up?
I have had 1 girlfriend and that was in 6th grade and she asked me. I quite honestly CAN'T ask girls out right now because I am hung up on these anxiety issues I have. I am very sure I have avoidant personality disorder along with general anxiety disorder and social phobia and am not in therapy so I am trying to fight it on my own. A girl actually expressing some interest would really help but that just doesn't happen....
Women are distinct individuals. We're not a whole. We all do as we choose, and I choose to be how I am.for people saying attractive girls have it easy, that's not true either. because then they have to be careful guys aren't just approaching them solely because they're attractive and want to fool around with them. and then most guys just assume they're not good enough for them and just never even bother to try.Pearl_of_EgyptI'll be honest with you Pearl. I want to take advantage of your attractiveness... :|
[QUOTE="Thechaninator"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"]Which puts me on the topic of my current relationship. I made the first move and not him and we turned out just fine.MissRiotmaker
Why can't more woman be like you and step up?
I have had 1 girlfriend and that was in 6th grade and she asked me. I quite honestly CAN'T ask girls out right now because I am hung up on these anxiety issues I have. I am very sure I have avoidant personality disorder along with general anxiety disorder and social phobia and am not in therapy so I am trying to fight it on my own. A girl actually expressing some interest would really help but that just doesn't happen....
Women are distinct individuals. We're not a whole. We all do as we choose, and I choose to be how I am.I just don't get why women rarely ask guys out......
Hell, I could pick up on some hints. The most I have managed was calling a friend of mine beautiful and that had me freaking for a little.....
I think he's right. Think about it. Do attractive 10 out of 10 girls ever get turned down by guys? I think not.KrunkMastaX
of course they do, everyone can face rejection even when you're good looking. and 10 on 10 girls have more chances that the guy is just trying to get into their pants for a quick one night stand over having an actual relationship. no one has it easy when it comes to dating, simple as that.
[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="Thechaninator"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"]Which puts me on the topic of my current relationship. I made the first move and not him and we turned out just fine.Thechaninator
Why can't more woman be like you and step up?
I have had 1 girlfriend and that was in 6th grade and she asked me. I quite honestly CAN'T ask girls out right now because I am hung up on these anxiety issues I have. I am very sure I have avoidant personality disorder along with general anxiety disorder and social phobia and am not in therapy so I am trying to fight it on my own. A girl actually expressing some interest would really help but that just doesn't happen....
Women are distinct individuals. We're not a whole. We all do as we choose, and I choose to be how I am.I just don't get why women rarely ask guys out......
Hell, I could pick up on some hints. The most I have managed was calling a friend of mine beautiful and that had me freaking for a little.....
Yeah, it's hard for me too. I'm pretty much certain that I'll never ask anyone out.[QUOTE="KrunkMastaX"]I think he's right. Think about it. Do attractive 10 out of 10 girls ever get turned down by guys? I think not.Pearl_of_Egypt
of course they do, everyone can face rejection even when you're good looking. and 10 on 10 girls have more chances that the guy is just trying to get into their pants for a quick one night stand over having an actual relationship. no one has it easy when it comes to dating, simple as that.
Unless of course they like casual sex(I do), but I guess I'm stuck in the BCs, all you youngsters being born after the fall of the Roman empire! But in terms of dating, and not sexxx. Yeah, everyone has it hard, such as the rich person, who knows if they're in it for their money or not?of course they do, everyone can face rejection even when you're good looking. and 10 on 10 girls have more chances that the guy is just trying to get into their pants for a quick one night stand over having an actual relationship. no one has it easy when it comes to dating, simple as that.
Pearl_of_Egypt
The same can be said for an attractive guy being gone after for just sex. Girls aren't innocent you know.
[QUOTE="Pearl_of_Egypt"]of course they do, everyone can face rejection even when you're good looking. and 10 on 10 girls have more chances that the guy is just trying to get into their pants for a quick one night stand over having an actual relationship. no one has it easy when it comes to dating, simple as that.
KrunkMastaX
The same can be said for an attractive guy being gone after for just sex. Girls aren't innocent you know.
They act far more innocent than guys.
[QUOTE="Devil_Huntress"]Girls don't have it easy actually. :|KrunkMastaX
Please elaborate.
I just think girls deal with more issues then guys.I just think girls deal with more issues then guys.
Devil_Huntress
Well then elaborate. What do you mean exactly?
[QUOTE="Devil_Huntress"]I just think girls deal with more issues then guys.
KrunkMastaX
Well then elaborate. What do you mean exactly?
Simple:
Many girls kind of get it harsh on both ends,
if they date too much, they are labelled as sluts, even if they haven't had sex,
if they don't date, they are labelled as frigid, even if they aren't at all,
plus the physiological stuff I was mentioning earlier,
it can be a lose-lose state for girls, especially in high school and college.
[QUOTE="Pearl_of_Egypt"]of course they do, everyone can face rejection even when you're good looking. and 10 on 10 girls have more chances that the guy is just trying to get into their pants for a quick one night stand over having an actual relationship. no one has it easy when it comes to dating, simple as that.
KrunkMastaX
The same can be said for an attractive guy being gone after for just sex. Girls aren't innocent you know.
exactly, like I said it isn't easy for anyone.
[QUOTE="Devil_Huntress"]I just think girls deal with more issues then guys.
KrunkMastaX
Well then elaborate. What do you mean exactly?
Girls stress too much over things. Like about their self-image. They have to make sure they look cute when they go out because you just never know who's looking. They sometimes can't do things that they want because they'll be labeled the wrong way. You know those lovely double standards. Like a guy can do just about anything and it wouldn't be frowned upon but on a girl it would because a girl is suppose to be/act a certain way.[QUOTE="KrunkMastaX"][QUOTE="Devil_Huntress"]I just think girls deal with more issues then guys.
Devil_Huntress
Well then elaborate. What do you mean exactly?
Girls stress too much over things. Like about their self-image.Gotta tell you Demon, guys, well me anyways, stress like crazy about self-image and looking good when out in public, it's a major stressor, expensive ass hoodies and jeans and such wouldn't be made for guys if guys didn't care about appearance :D
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