Glenn Beck: "African-American is a bogus, PC, made-up term - not a race&quo

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Beck hosted a show called African American Conservatives as well

I hate Glenn Beck but Ive always thought that African-American is a totally hollow and inaccurate term.

Sometimes, people do things that words kinda can't describe. My reaction to this case for instance. Anger that people listen to this fellow, confusion as to why the hell he is given air time, and embarrassment that this guy represents the right. Hardly covers my reaction to his stupidity.

I hate Glenn Beck but Ive always thought that African-American is a totally hollow and inaccurate term.

Judo_boy

Did he happen to cry, profess his love for America, and ask a stupid hypothetical question like "Where is the America I used to know?" as well?

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I hate Glenn Beck but Ive always thought that African-American is a totally hollow and inaccurate term.

weezyfb

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I hate Glenn Beck but Ive always thought that African-American is a totally hollow and inaccurate term.

weezyfb

Uhm, how about just American?

He is right, though. Africa isn't a country, it's a continent. Indeed, I wouldn't be called a European-American because my ancestors came from Italy, England, and Ireland. If anything, I should be called an Italian-American, an English-American, or an Irish-American depending on how dominant one side or the other was in my bloodline.

The term isn't bogus because it's PC, it's inherently bogus given the political situation of the continent.

As a black guy I hate being called African-American. I prefer to be called Black. I am Clayron. I am a Black guy.clayron

As a black guy I hate being called African-American. I prefer to be called Black. I am Clayron. I am a Black guy.clayron

I still remember my high school Gov/Eco teacher refering to blacks that live on the continent of Africa as "African-Americans". One of those moments where you aren't quite sure what you just heard, then you facepalm when you continue to hear it.

Glenn Beck can be a nutcase but I agree with what he said. In fact, any hyphenated word are just a bunch of bogus PC made up terms.

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I hate Glenn Beck but Ive always thought that African-American is a totally hollow and inaccurate term.

theBeorn

That's just as "bogus", since most "black" people are actually "brown".

well for once he is right. Its kinda silly...I dont walk around calling my self German-Scottish-American, or even Caucasion for that matter.

I'm white.

I am sure most black people dont mind being called black, and have actually been told that if you refer to them as african-american it makes it sound like youre tip-toeing around the issue, which they take offense to/feel alienated by.

I agree with what he said, the term "african american" is innacurate. Is a white person from Africa (like Charlize Theron) also an African-American? It shouldnt be a term for all black people.

That's just as "bogus", since most "black" people are actually "brown".

MrGeezer

And most white people are actually beige.

Somebody needs to find the guy who came up with these race terms and give them a color wheel.

Well, I do actually have to say I agree with him here. The term is nonsensical - it has been used in the past to describe both those whose ethnic origin is not Africa and those who are not American. And the term even more nonsensically cannot be used to refer to those who are from Africa and do live in America but who are not black. In fact I would almost consider the implication offensive to say that because someone is black they must be from Africa.

Well, I do actually have to say I agree with him here. The term is nonsensical - it has been used in the past to describe both those whose ethnic origin is not Africa and those who are not American. And the term even more nonsensically cannot be used to refer to those who are from Africa and do live in America but who are not black. In fact I would almost consider the implication offensive to say that because someone is black they must be from Africa.

GabuEx

"PC" is a term that's thrown around by people who don't like getting called out when they say something reprehensible.PannicAtack

its also a term people throw out when people make a big deal out of nothing.

Its like if I call a little person a dwarf or midget a "little person" and they give me crap about it. "Little person" is the casual social term for someone who is vertically challened, just like "black" is the casual social term for someone of african descent.

What I would love to see is if someone didnt call them either, but called them "african". I bet they'd get in a whole lot of trouble.

We can call people Irish as if its a statement of their character (even though theyre Irish American, fourth generation or whatever), but I bet they'd get in trouble for calling a black person "african"

[QUOTE="theBeorn"][QUOTE="weezyfb"] what term do you use?MrGeezer

That's just as "bogus", since most "black" people are actually "brown".

idunno I have seen some really, really dark skinned blacks. My football coach in high school was essentially black, or at least such a dark brown you couldnt tell the difference.

blacks that dark are quite a rarity though,

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Well, I do actually have to say I agree with him here. The term is nonsensical - it has been used in the past to describe both those whose ethnic origin is not Africa and those who are not American. And the term even more nonsensically cannot be used to refer to those who are from Africa and do live in America but who are not black. In fact I would almost consider the implication offensive to say that because someone is black they must be from Africa.

weezyfb

Well at one point we were all from Africa, if scientists are right.

Nonetheless, I don't exactly think it is particularly correct to call someone "African" whose only connection to the continent is that his or her great-great-great-great-great-great-...-great grandparent lived there.

I don't like the term either. Black and white works for me.

I hate the term too. Its stupid. I was not born in Africa. Matter of fact if thats the case every human born in America should be African American because the first humans were born in Africa. Anyway you get what I mean. I don't like the term black either because my skin isn't black. I prefer milk chocolate 8), or caramel.

I don't like the term African American also. It is long and it makes me think of them as your starving people in Africa. Black is shorter and my link Black to Michle Jackson, Jordan, and etc. And they lived in America for so long, African reference is just so out-dated.magicalclick

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[QUOTE="theBeorn"] nothing wrong in saying BLACK.mrbojangles25

That's just as "bogus", since most "black" people are actually "brown".

idunno I have seen some really, really dark skinned blacks. My football coach in high school was essentially black, or at least such a dark brown you couldnt tell the difference.

blacks that dark are quite a rarity though,

I've seen a few. But I also live in the USA.

Here in the USA, at least the part in which I live, even many "black" people make jokes about the "BLACK" people.

Admittedly that's still racist, at least as much as a "white" guy making fun of someone who is "black". Or a "black guy" making fun of someone who is "white". Or a "white" guy making fun of someone who is REALLY "WHITE" (I've seen a few of these people too).

In any case, Most whites aren't "white", most blacks aren't "black", and most African-Americans aren't "African-American."

I'm just saying that as far as "innacuracy" goes, there's really not much of a better alternative label. I call white people "white", and yeah...most of them aren't white. Doesn't really seem to make much difference in the grand scheme of things.

I've seen a few. But I also live in the USA.

Here in the USA, at least the part in which I live, even many "black" people make jokes about the "BLACK" people.

Admittedly that's still racist, at least as much as a "white" guy making fun of someone who is "black". Or a "black guy" making fun of someone who is "white". Or a "white" guy making fun of someone who is REALLY "WHITE" (I've seen a few of these people too).

In any case, Most whites aren't "white", most blacks aren't "black", and most African-Americans aren't "African-American."

I'm just saying that as far as "innacuracy" goes, there's really not much of a better alternative label. I call white people "white", and yeah...most of them aren't white. Doesn't really seem to make much difference in the grand scheme of things.

MrGeezer

While I agree with you that the terms "white" and "black" are not exactly accurate, I would say that in terms of percentage error they're certainly closer than "African-American". At least "white" and "black" acknowledge in a forthright manner that it's skin color we're talking about, whereas "African-American" is just stupid - you are in no way intending to refer to the person's country or continent of origin or residence.

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That's just as "bogus", since most "black" people are actually "brown".

MrGeezer

idunno I have seen some really, really dark skinned blacks. My football coach in high school was essentially black, or at least such a dark brown you couldnt tell the difference.

blacks that dark are quite a rarity though,

I've seen a few. But I also live in the USA.

Here in the USA, at least the part in which I live, even many "black" people make jokes about the "BLACK" people.

Admittedly that's still racist, at least as much as a "white" guy making fun of someone who is "black". Or a "black guy" making fun of someone who is "white". Or a "white" guy making fun of someone who is REALLY "WHITE" (I've seen a few of these people too).

In any case, Most whites aren't "white", most blacks aren't "black", and most African-Americans aren't "African-American."

I'm just saying that as far as "innacuracy" goes, there's really not much of a better alternative label. I call white people "white", and yeah...most of them aren't white. Doesn't really seem to make much difference in the grand scheme of things.

yea, the only alternative I see is to walk around with paint sample

Oh, this guy is Georgia Peach Pink. Oh, and that fellow is not black, he is Michigan Barn Brown.

Yea....that'd work.

I hate Glenn Beck but Ive always thought that African-American is a totally hollow and inaccurate term.

Judo_boy

^^this. If white people are "white" why can't black people be "black"?

i think i get what he was trying to say, african-american should only apply if they were born in africa and emigrated here. if there born here regardless of ancestory they are just an american which is a nationallity not a race.

if they must be more specific then black american seems to be approritate for the census for those who are born here and have african or other dark skined ancestories.

[QUOTE="theBeorn"][QUOTE="weezyfb"] what term do you use?MrGeezer

That's just as "bogus", since most "black" people are actually "brown".

*looks at skin* My skin isn't exactly white but I'm not complaining.

Why must everything have label in it, I say we just called them you people........ "wait what do you mean why you people" I love it when that happens in a movie :PCoolSkAGuy

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I hate Glenn Beck but Ive always thought that African-American is a totally hollow and inaccurate term.

theBeorn

If we started identifying people by their family background then we would be working against the fact that soon enough we will all be mixed entirely to the point where it is completely irrelevant.

Logical speaking, whether or not it was felt that African-American can be an appropriate term for the a portion of the majority of darker skinned individuals, it is illogical to assume a racial background when we are talking about identifying an individual without knowing its heritage or background. When you are identifying a white skinned individual you would not reply "he was an italian/german american because he had a rough German exterior and a hint of oily Italian skin color".

I hate Glenn Beck but Ive always thought that African-American is a totally hollow and inaccurate term.

Judo_boy

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I hate Glenn Beck but Ive always thought that African-American is a totally hollow and inaccurate term.

peaceoutmedusa

African American is such a stupid term. I'm more comfortable saying black than that.