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#101 xhellcatx
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[QUOTE="luke1889"]The right to bear arms is one of the stupidest things in the American constitution, in my opinion. It's just crazy.luke1889

yess but u may be one of the stupidest things in america

Maybe if I was actually American. :roll:

lol them why do u even care what we can and cannot do?

Common sense tells me that the more guns there are, the more probable shootings are. If people are stupid enough to buy a gun and carry it around them in the street, they're probably stupid enough to use them too.

Plus, you say they are for self defence. Are you expecting to get mauled or something every time you leave the house?

So much for the land of the free; more like the land of the scared and insecure.

Fear the government that fears your guns. Btw, I have several guns, and im not an ounce insecure. I just like collecting them and shooting them at the range or at an animal im going to eat. So hows about we stop stereotyping hmm?
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#102 luke1889
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[QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="luke1889"]The right to bear arms is one of the stupidest things in the American constitution, in my opinion. It's just crazy.xhellcatx

yess but u may be one of the stupidest things in america

Maybe if I was actually American. :roll:

lol them why do u even care what we can and cannot do?

Common sense tells me that the more guns there are, the more probable shootings are. If people are stupid enough to buy a gun and carry it around them in the street, they're probably stupid enough to use them too.

Plus, you say they are for self defence. Are you expecting to get mauled or something every time you leave the house?

So much for the land of the free; more like the land of the scared and insecure.

Fear the government that fears your guns. Btw, I have several guns, and im not an ounce insecure. I just like collecting them and shooting them at the range or at an animal im going to eat. So hows about we stop stereotyping hmm?

I highly doubt that when the constitution was drafted, the right to bear arms was soley so you could enjoy yourself down at the shooting range. Or so you could have a fancy collection of firearms.
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#103 inyourface_12
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[QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="luke1889"]The right to bear arms is one of the stupidest things in the American constitution, in my opinion. It's just crazy.luke1889

yess but u may be one of the stupidest things in america

Maybe if I was actually American. :roll:

lol them why do u even care what we can and cannot do?

Common sense tells me that the more guns there are, the more probable shootings are. If people are stupid enough to buy a gun and carry it around them in the street, they're probably stupid enough to use them too.

Plus, you say they are for self defence. Are you expecting to get mauled or something every time you leave the house?

So much for the land of the free; more like the land of the scared and insecure.

i didnt say u should carry them everywhere but some people have good reason too.  take my friends dad for example.  he works in the nbad part of a terrible city so he has concealed caryy because there are hoodlums everywhere and they try to steal things and mug people.  and self defense isnt just carrying them.  what if a strange guy comes to my house right now.  breaks in and tries to grab me but i grab the gun and hold him at gunpoint and force him to lock himself in a closet till police arrive.  is that not self defense?

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#104 inyourface_12
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[QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="luke1889"]The right to bear arms is one of the stupidest things in the American constitution, in my opinion. It's just crazy.luke1889

yess but u may be one of the stupidest things in america

Maybe if I was actually American. :roll:

lol them why do u even care what we can and cannot do?

Common sense tells me that the more guns there are, the more probable shootings are. If people are stupid enough to buy a gun and carry it around them in the street, they're probably stupid enough to use them too.

Plus, you say they are for self defence. Are you expecting to get mauled or something every time you leave the house?

So much for the land of the free; more like the land of the scared and insecure.

Fear the government that fears your guns. Btw, I have several guns, and im not an ounce insecure. I just like collecting them and shooting them at the range or at an animal im going to eat. So hows about we stop stereotyping hmm?

I highly doubt that when the constitution was drafted, the right to bear arms was soley so you could enjoy yourself down at the shooting range. Or so you could have a fancy collection of firearms.

he makes a good point.  the ability to own guns also allows us to be secure in knowing that our government casnt do anything against us without us having the ability to fight back

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#105 SonnyF
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[QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="luke1889"]The right to bear arms is one of the stupidest things in the American constitution, in my opinion. It's just crazy.inyourface_12

yess but u may be one of the stupidest things in america

Maybe if I was actually American. :roll:

lol them why do u even care what we can and cannot do?

Common sense tells me that the more guns there are, the more probable shootings are. If people are stupid enough to buy a gun and carry it around them in the street, they're probably stupid enough to use them too.

Plus, you say they are for self defence. Are you expecting to get mauled or something every time you leave the house?

So much for the land of the free; more like the land of the scared and insecure.

i didnt say u should carry them everywhere but some people have good reason too. take my friends dad for example. he works in the nbad part of a terrible city so he has concealed caryy because there are hoodlums everywhere and they try to steal things and mug people. and self defense isnt just carrying them. what if a strange guy comes to my house right now. breaks in and tries to grab me but i grab the gun and hold him at gunpoint and force him to lock himself in a closet till police arrive. is that not self defense?



I would prefere to lose my walet than stick hot lead into a human being.
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#106 luke1889
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[QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="luke1889"]The right to bear arms is one of the stupidest things in the American constitution, in my opinion. It's just crazy.inyourface_12

yess but u may be one of the stupidest things in america

Maybe if I was actually American. :roll:

lol them why do u even care what we can and cannot do?

Common sense tells me that the more guns there are, the more probable shootings are. If people are stupid enough to buy a gun and carry it around them in the street, they're probably stupid enough to use them too.

Plus, you say they are for self defence. Are you expecting to get mauled or something every time you leave the house?

So much for the land of the free; more like the land of the scared and insecure.

Fear the government that fears your guns. Btw, I have several guns, and im not an ounce insecure. I just like collecting them and shooting them at the range or at an animal im going to eat. So hows about we stop stereotyping hmm?

I highly doubt that when the constitution was drafted, the right to bear arms was soley so you could enjoy yourself down at the shooting range. Or so you could have a fancy collection of firearms.

he makes a good point.  the ability to own guns also allows us to be secure in knowing that our government casnt do anything against us without us having the ability to fight back

Firstly, the government is elected by the people and so the government is just as dependant on you (Americans) as you are on them. They wouldn't dare do anything 'against' you because the people can get rid of the government as quickly as they elect them. Furthermore, it is the duty of the government to honour and uphold your constitution and so if you did need to 'fight back', you certainly wouldn't need guns.
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#107 xhellcatx
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[QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="luke1889"]The right to bear arms is one of the stupidest things in the American constitution, in my opinion. It's just crazy.luke1889

yess but u may be one of the stupidest things in america

Maybe if I was actually American. :roll:

lol them why do u even care what we can and cannot do?

Common sense tells me that the more guns there are, the more probable shootings are. If people are stupid enough to buy a gun and carry it around them in the street, they're probably stupid enough to use them too.

Plus, you say they are for self defence. Are you expecting to get mauled or something every time you leave the house?

So much for the land of the free; more like the land of the scared and insecure.

Fear the government that fears your guns. Btw, I have several guns, and im not an ounce insecure. I just like collecting them and shooting them at the range or at an animal im going to eat. So hows about we stop stereotyping hmm?

I highly doubt that when the constitution was drafted, the right to bear arms was soley so you could enjoy yourself down at the shooting range. Or so you could have a fancy collection of firearms.

Thats not my point. I have the right to have a gun so I can feed myself. So its not all entirely about being able to shoot people if i have to or want to. I am not paranoid, nor do I think someones going to come after me. Thats how a LOT of hunters feel as well. They just have the gun so they can hunt. Its a tool.
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#108 inyourface_12
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[QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="luke1889"]The right to bear arms is one of the stupidest things in the American constitution, in my opinion. It's just crazy.luke1889

yess but u may be one of the stupidest things in america

Maybe if I was actually American. :roll:

lol them why do u even care what we can and cannot do?

Common sense tells me that the more guns there are, the more probable shootings are. If people are stupid enough to buy a gun and carry it around them in the street, they're probably stupid enough to use them too.

Plus, you say they are for self defence. Are you expecting to get mauled or something every time you leave the house?

So much for the land of the free; more like the land of the scared and insecure.

Fear the government that fears your guns. Btw, I have several guns, and im not an ounce insecure. I just like collecting them and shooting them at the range or at an animal im going to eat. So hows about we stop stereotyping hmm?

I highly doubt that when the constitution was drafted, the right to bear arms was soley so you could enjoy yourself down at the shooting range. Or so you could have a fancy collection of firearms.

he makes a good point.  the ability to own guns also allows us to be secure in knowing that our government casnt do anything against us without us having the ability to fight back

Firstly, the government is elected by the people and so the government is just as dependant on you (Americans) as you are on them. They wouldn't dare do anything 'against' you because the people can get rid of the government as quickly as they elect them. Furthermore, it is the duty of the government to honour and uphold your constitution and so if you did need to 'fight back', you certainly wouldn't need guns.

umm as much as i love our constitution its not entirely out of the question that someday they turn around on us and take total control.  its not like its never happened

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#109 SonnyF
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[QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="luke1889"]The right to bear arms is one of the stupidest things in the American constitution, in my opinion. It's just crazy.luke1889

yess but u may be one of the stupidest things in america

Maybe if I was actually American. :roll:

lol them why do u even care what we can and cannot do?

Common sense tells me that the more guns there are, the more probable shootings are. If people are stupid enough to buy a gun and carry it around them in the street, they're probably stupid enough to use them too.

Plus, you say they are for self defence. Are you expecting to get mauled or something every time you leave the house?

So much for the land of the free; more like the land of the scared and insecure.

Fear the government that fears your guns. Btw, I have several guns, and im not an ounce insecure. I just like collecting them and shooting them at the range or at an animal im going to eat. So hows about we stop stereotyping hmm?

I highly doubt that when the constitution was drafted, the right to bear arms was soley so you could enjoy yourself down at the shooting range. Or so you could have a fancy collection of firearms.

he makes a good point. the ability to own guns also allows us to be secure in knowing that our government casnt do anything against us without us having the ability to fight back

Firstly, the government is elected by the people and so the government is just as dependant on you (Americans) as you are on them. They wouldn't dare do anything 'against' you because the people can get rid of the government as quickly as they elect them. Furthermore, it is the duty of the government to honour and uphold your constitution and so if you did need to 'fight back', you certainly wouldn't need guns.



oh come on, if the people tried to rise up it would just be a bunch of idiots with guns vs. a trained army, there's no reason for you to have guns in America, your all just crazy, and not in the good way.
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#110 inyourface_12
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[QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="luke1889"]The right to bear arms is one of the stupidest things in the American constitution, in my opinion. It's just crazy.SonnyF

yess but u may be one of the stupidest things in america

Maybe if I was actually American. :roll:

lol them why do u even care what we can and cannot do?

Common sense tells me that the more guns there are, the more probable shootings are. If people are stupid enough to buy a gun and carry it around them in the street, they're probably stupid enough to use them too.

Plus, you say they are for self defence. Are you expecting to get mauled or something every time you leave the house?

So much for the land of the free; more like the land of the scared and insecure.

i didnt say u should carry them everywhere but some people have good reason too. take my friends dad for example. he works in the nbad part of a terrible city so he has concealed caryy because there are hoodlums everywhere and they try to steal things and mug people. and self defense isnt just carrying them. what if a strange guy comes to my house right now. breaks in and tries to grab me but i grab the gun and hold him at gunpoint and force him to lock himself in a closet till police arrive. is that not self defense?



I would prefere to lose my walet than stick hot lead into a human being.

hey no one said u had to shopot them.  pull a gun on someone and they will run pretty quick or do uwat u want

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I have a 44 Magnum Desert Eagle Pistol at home. I love it but it is expensive to shoot. I'm looking at getting a 9mm for target practice.
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#112 SonnyF
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[QUOTE="SonnyF"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="luke1889"]The right to bear arms is one of the stupidest things in the American constitution, in my opinion. It's just crazy.inyourface_12

yess but u may be one of the stupidest things in america

Maybe if I was actually American. :roll:

lol them why do u even care what we can and cannot do?

Common sense tells me that the more guns there are, the more probable shootings are. If people are stupid enough to buy a gun and carry it around them in the street, they're probably stupid enough to use them too.

Plus, you say they are for self defence. Are you expecting to get mauled or something every time you leave the house?

So much for the land of the free; more like the land of the scared and insecure.

i didnt say u should carry them everywhere but some people have good reason too. take my friends dad for example. he works in the nbad part of a terrible city so he has concealed caryy because there are hoodlums everywhere and they try to steal things and mug people. and self defense isnt just carrying them. what if a strange guy comes to my house right now. breaks in and tries to grab me but i grab the gun and hold him at gunpoint and force him to lock himself in a closet till police arrive. is that not self defense?



I would prefere to lose my walet than stick hot lead into a human being.

hey no one said u had to shopot them. pull a gun on someone and they will run pretty quick or do uwat u want



you know they probley will have a gun as well, and will be willing to shoot.
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[QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="SonnyF"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="luke1889"]The right to bear arms is one of the stupidest things in the American constitution, in my opinion. It's just crazy.SonnyF

yess but u may be one of the stupidest things in america

Maybe if I was actually American. :roll:

lol them why do u even care what we can and cannot do?

Common sense tells me that the more guns there are, the more probable shootings are. If people are stupid enough to buy a gun and carry it around them in the street, they're probably stupid enough to use them too.

Plus, you say they are for self defence. Are you expecting to get mauled or something every time you leave the house?

So much for the land of the free; more like the land of the scared and insecure.

i didnt say u should carry them everywhere but some people have good reason too. take my friends dad for example. he works in the nbad part of a terrible city so he has concealed caryy because there are hoodlums everywhere and they try to steal things and mug people. and self defense isnt just carrying them. what if a strange guy comes to my house right now. breaks in and tries to grab me but i grab the gun and hold him at gunpoint and force him to lock himself in a closet till police arrive. is that not self defense?



I would prefere to lose my walet than stick hot lead into a human being.

hey no one said u had to shopot them. pull a gun on someone and they will run pretty quick or do uwat u want



you know they probley will have a gun as well, and will be willing to shoot.

if that is what is required then yess

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#114 MagnumPI
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I hate guns just dont see the point in having one unless you use it just for the shooting range.

Why do most americans think having guns gives you more freedom especially when gun crime is so high over there
fordies

  Because we have more guns and people than the federal government. Blame Brittian for that. their abuse and tyranny upon the colonies is the reason America has the right to bare arms. Why, because they proved a man with a gun is free while a man with a gun is a subject. Meaning subject to abuse and invasion. Subject to being oppressed and taken hostage. That's what Hitler did. He banned guns so they wouldn't be able to resist. Then he took Germany hostage. With a gun I am free, free to blow anybody away who trys to **** with me.

  Once ou give someone a freedom you can't take it away. Because when do it just demonstrates opressions. As if all of a sudden you don't have freedom. They are telling you what you can't and cannot do. The thing about democracy. They don't tell us what to do, we tell them what to do. If we decide we want guns then we keep guns.

  An invasion would be funny, because the citizens would be the first to respond. For every 10,000 enemy soldier there were be 50,000 citizens with rifles and shotguns. They would be advancing to come in, but we would be concealed an have vantage because it's our turf. So it would be a sniper extravaganza.

  Don't be stupid. If the U.S can invade Iraq why couldn't some other country attempt to invade the U.S? Sure they have to fight their way past the coast guard and Naval air defense first, but anything is possible. It's always better to be prepaired. Better to have it and not need than need it and not have it, because when you need it and you don't have you have another problem.

 

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#115 SonnyF
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[QUOTE="SonnyF"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="SonnyF"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="luke1889"]The right to bear arms is one of the stupidest things in the American constitution, in my opinion. It's just crazy.inyourface_12

yess but u may be one of the stupidest things in america

Maybe if I was actually American. :roll:

lol them why do u even care what we can and cannot do?

Common sense tells me that the more guns there are, the more probable shootings are. If people are stupid enough to buy a gun and carry it around them in the street, they're probably stupid enough to use them too.

Plus, you say they are for self defence. Are you expecting to get mauled or something every time you leave the house?

So much for the land of the free; more like the land of the scared and insecure.

i didnt say u should carry them everywhere but some people have good reason too. take my friends dad for example. he works in the nbad part of a terrible city so he has concealed caryy because there are hoodlums everywhere and they try to steal things and mug people. and self defense isnt just carrying them. what if a strange guy comes to my house right now. breaks in and tries to grab me but i grab the gun and hold him at gunpoint and force him to lock himself in a closet till police arrive. is that not self defense?



I would prefere to lose my walet than stick hot lead into a human being.

hey no one said u had to shopot them. pull a gun on someone and they will run pretty quick or do uwat u want



you know they probley will have a gun as well, and will be willing to shoot.

if that is what is required then yess



so you would be willing to shoot someone for your walet then?
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[QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="SonnyF"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="SonnyF"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="luke1889"]The right to bear arms is one of the stupidest things in the American constitution, in my opinion. It's just crazy.SonnyF

yess but u may be one of the stupidest things in america

Maybe if I was actually American. :roll:

lol them why do u even care what we can and cannot do?

Common sense tells me that the more guns there are, the more probable shootings are. If people are stupid enough to buy a gun and carry it around them in the street, they're probably stupid enough to use them too.

Plus, you say they are for self defence. Are you expecting to get mauled or something every time you leave the house?

So much for the land of the free; more like the land of the scared and insecure.

i didnt say u should carry them everywhere but some people have good reason too. take my friends dad for example. he works in the nbad part of a terrible city so he has concealed caryy because there are hoodlums everywhere and they try to steal things and mug people. and self defense isnt just carrying them. what if a strange guy comes to my house right now. breaks in and tries to grab me but i grab the gun and hold him at gunpoint and force him to lock himself in a closet till police arrive. is that not self defense?



I would prefere to lose my walet than stick hot lead into a human being.

hey no one said u had to shopot them. pull a gun on someone and they will run pretty quick or do uwat u want



you know they probley will have a gun as well, and will be willing to shoot.

if that is what is required then yess



so you would be willing to shoot someone for your walet then?

no.  see if he tries to take my wallet.  i pull the gun.  if he pulls his he is a threat to me then yess i would shoot him

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Thats not my point. I have the right to have a gun so I can feed myself. So its not all entirely about being able to shoot people if i have to or want to. I am not paranoid, nor do I think someones going to come after me. Thats how a LOT of hunters feel as well. They just have the gun so they can hunt. Its a tool. xhellcatx

 Feed yourself? Do you live in the wilderness or the jungle or something? I'm sure that was a valid excuse back on December 15th 1791 when the right to bear arms was one of the amendments on that day, but not really now. We're in the 21st Century now, not in the Stone Age. Ever heard of going to the shop?

umm as much as i love our constitution its not entirely out of the question that someday they turn around on us and take total control.  its not like its never happenedinyourface_12

Again, we are in modern times. The US government would not just set its army on the people of the country; they'd have no reason to. Plus, a country's army's function is primarily defence of the country it represents, so I believe starting an unfair civil war would be kind of unlikely. America's got better things to do with its armed forces. Like send them to Iraq. :roll: Oh wait... :roll:

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#118 luke1889
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no.  see if he tries to take my wallet.  i pull the gun.  if he pulls his he is a threat to me then yess i would shoot himinyourface_12

So that's what America has come to, huh? Seriously, from my point of view, that just seems crazy. Sounds more like the Wild West; two guys pull out a gun and the first one to shoot wins.

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#119 SonnyF
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[QUOTE="luke1889"]The right to bear arms is one of the stupidest things in the American constitution, in my opinion. It's just crazy.inyourface_12

yess but u may be one of the stupidest things in america

Maybe if I was actually American. :roll:

lol them why do u even care what we can and cannot do?

Common sense tells me that the more guns there are, the more probable shootings are. If people are stupid enough to buy a gun and carry it around them in the street, they're probably stupid enough to use them too.

Plus, you say they are for self defence. Are you expecting to get mauled or something every time you leave the house?

So much for the land of the free; more like the land of the scared and insecure.

i didnt say u should carry them everywhere but some people have good reason too. take my friends dad for example. he works in the nbad part of a terrible city so he has concealed caryy because there are hoodlums everywhere and they try to steal things and mug people. and self defense isnt just carrying them. what if a strange guy comes to my house right now. breaks in and tries to grab me but i grab the gun and hold him at gunpoint and force him to lock himself in a closet till police arrive. is that not self defense?



I would prefere to lose my walet than stick hot lead into a human being.

hey no one said u had to shopot them. pull a gun on someone and they will run pretty quick or do uwat u want



you know they probley will have a gun as well, and will be willing to shoot.

if that is what is required then yess



so you would be willing to shoot someone for your walet then?

no. see if he tries to take my wallet. i pull the gun. if he pulls his he is a threat to me then yess i would shoot him



but you could of prevented that by not taking out your gun.
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#120 mimic-Denmark
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The whole stupid thing like GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE, well if they didnt have a gun they woundt have gotten to that point that easily, america should seriously do something about their weapon laws.
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#121 inyourface_12
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[QUOTE="xhellcatx"]Thats not my point. I have the right to have a gun so I can feed myself. So its not all entirely about being able to shoot people if i have to or want to. I am not paranoid, nor do I think someones going to come after me. Thats how a LOT of hunters feel as well. They just have the gun so they can hunt. Its a tool. luke1889
Feed yourself? Do you live in the wilderness or the jungle or something? I'm sure that was a valid excuse back on December 15th 1791 when the right to bear arms was one of the amendments on that day, but not really now. We're in the 21st Century now, not in the Stone Age. Ever heard of going to the shop?
umm as much as i love our constitution its not entirely out of the question that someday they turn around on us and take total control.  its not like its never happenedinyourface_12
Again, we are in modern times. The US government would not just set its army on the people of the country; they'd have no reason to. Plus, a country's army's function is primerily defence of the coutry it represent, so I believe starting an unfair civil war would be kind of unlikely. America's got better things to do with its armed forces. Like send them to Iraq. :roll: Oh wait... :roll:

your about as oppostie of my views as it gets.  lets just agree to disagree and let it go

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#122 inyourface_12
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[QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="SonnyF"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="SonnyF"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="SonnyF"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="luke1889"]The right to bear arms is one of the stupidest things in the American constitution, in my opinion. It's just crazy.SonnyF

yess but u may be one of the stupidest things in america

Maybe if I was actually American. :roll:

lol them why do u even care what we can and cannot do?

Common sense tells me that the more guns there are, the more probable shootings are. If people are stupid enough to buy a gun and carry it around them in the street, they're probably stupid enough to use them too.

Plus, you say they are for self defence. Are you expecting to get mauled or something every time you leave the house?

So much for the land of the free; more like the land of the scared and insecure.

i didnt say u should carry them everywhere but some people have good reason too. take my friends dad for example. he works in the nbad part of a terrible city so he has concealed caryy because there are hoodlums everywhere and they try to steal things and mug people. and self defense isnt just carrying them. what if a strange guy comes to my house right now. breaks in and tries to grab me but i grab the gun and hold him at gunpoint and force him to lock himself in a closet till police arrive. is that not self defense?



I would prefere to lose my walet than stick hot lead into a human being.

hey no one said u had to shopot them. pull a gun on someone and they will run pretty quick or do uwat u want



you know they probley will have a gun as well, and will be willing to shoot.

if that is what is required then yess



so you would be willing to shoot someone for your walet then?

no. see if he tries to take my wallet. i pull the gun. if he pulls his he is a threat to me then yess i would shoot him



but you could of prevented that by not taking out your gun.

and losing things that i earned and he in no way deserves to take.

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#123 luke1889
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[QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="xhellcatx"]Thats not my point. I have the right to have a gun so I can feed myself. So its not all entirely about being able to shoot people if i have to or want to. I am not paranoid, nor do I think someones going to come after me. Thats how a LOT of hunters feel as well. They just have the gun so they can hunt. Its a tool. inyourface_12

Feed yourself? Do you live in the wilderness or the jungle or something? I'm sure that was a valid excuse back on December 15th 1791 when the right to bear arms was one of the amendments on that day, but not really now. We're in the 21st Century now, not in the Stone Age. Ever heard of going to the shop?
umm as much as i love our constitution its not entirely out of the question that someday they turn around on us and take total control.  its not like its never happenedinyourface_12
Again, we are in modern times. The US government would not just set its army on the people of the country; they'd have no reason to. Plus, a country's army's function is primerily defence of the coutry it represent, so I believe starting an unfair civil war would be kind of unlikely. America's got better things to do with its armed forces. Like send them to Iraq. :roll: Oh wait... :roll:

your about as oppostie of my views as it gets.  lets just agree to disagree and let it go

Ok. :)
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#124 RoflSponge
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#125 SonnyF
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[QUOTE="SonnyF"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="SonnyF"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="SonnyF"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="SonnyF"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="inyourface_12"]

[QUOTE="luke1889"]The right to bear arms is one of the stupidest things in the American constitution, in my opinion. It's just crazy.inyourface_12

yess but u may be one of the stupidest things in america

Maybe if I was actually American. :roll:

lol them why do u even care what we can and cannot do?

Common sense tells me that the more guns there are, the more probable shootings are. If people are stupid enough to buy a gun and carry it around them in the street, they're probably stupid enough to use them too.

Plus, you say they are for self defence. Are you expecting to get mauled or something every time you leave the house?

So much for the land of the free; more like the land of the scared and insecure.

i didnt say u should carry them everywhere but some people have good reason too. take my friends dad for example. he works in the nbad part of a terrible city so he has concealed caryy because there are hoodlums everywhere and they try to steal things and mug people. and self defense isnt just carrying them. what if a strange guy comes to my house right now. breaks in and tries to grab me but i grab the gun and hold him at gunpoint and force him to lock himself in a closet till police arrive. is that not self defense?



I would prefere to lose my walet than stick hot lead into a human being.

hey no one said u had to shopot them. pull a gun on someone and they will run pretty quick or do uwat u want



you know they probley will have a gun as well, and will be willing to shoot.

if that is what is required then yess



so you would be willing to shoot someone for your walet then?

no. see if he tries to take my wallet. i pull the gun. if he pulls his he is a threat to me then yess i would shoot him



but you could of prevented that by not taking out your gun.

and losing things that i earned and he in no way deserves to take.



so your willing to take someone's life for something like that? god, people like you should be shot(i get the irony)
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#126 xhellcatx
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[QUOTE="xhellcatx"]Thats not my point. I have the right to have a gun so I can feed myself. So its not all entirely about being able to shoot people if i have to or want to. I am not paranoid, nor do I think someones going to come after me. Thats how a LOT of hunters feel as well. They just have the gun so they can hunt. Its a tool. luke1889

 Feed yourself? Do you live in the wilderness or the jungle or something? I'm sure that was a valid excuse back on December 15th 1791 when the right to bear arms was one of the amendments on that day, but not really now. We're in the 21st Century now, not in the Stone Age. Ever heard of going to the shop?

umm as much as i love our constitution its not entirely out of the question that someday they turn around on us and take total control.  its not like its never happenedinyourface_12

Again, we are in modern times. The US government would not just set its army on the people of the country; they'd have no reason to. Plus, a country's army's function is primarily defence of the country it represents, so I believe starting an unfair civil war would be kind of unlikely. America's got better things to do with its armed forces. Like send them to Iraq. :roll: Oh wait... :roll:

Firstly Yea, i lived in the woods, was I near any stores? yea. Does this mean i have enough money to go buy food? No. Perhapse you should consider the meaning of poverty and consider that perhapse there are poor people in America. We hunted for food. Yes. We got through winter off of the deer we would kill. Do you have any idea of how much meat is on a good size deer? It saved us a lot of money to hunt our own food, so how about you consider living conditions before making a jerk out of yourself?
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#127 inyourface_12
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[QUOTE="luke1889"]The right to bear arms is one of the stupidest things in the American constitution, in my opinion. It's just crazy.SonnyF

yess but u may be one of the stupidest things in america

Maybe if I was actually American. :roll:

lol them why do u even care what we can and cannot do?

Common sense tells me that the more guns there are, the more probable shootings are. If people are stupid enough to buy a gun and carry it around them in the street, they're probably stupid enough to use them too.

Plus, you say they are for self defence. Are you expecting to get mauled or something every time you leave the house?

So much for the land of the free; more like the land of the scared and insecure.

i didnt say u should carry them everywhere but some people have good reason too. take my friends dad for example. he works in the nbad part of a terrible city so he has concealed caryy because there are hoodlums everywhere and they try to steal things and mug people. and self defense isnt just carrying them. what if a strange guy comes to my house right now. breaks in and tries to grab me but i grab the gun and hold him at gunpoint and force him to lock himself in a closet till police arrive. is that not self defense?



I would prefere to lose my walet than stick hot lead into a human being.

hey no one said u had to shopot them. pull a gun on someone and they will run pretty quick or do uwat u want



you know they probley will have a gun as well, and will be willing to shoot.

if that is what is required then yess



so you would be willing to shoot someone for your walet then?

no. see if he tries to take my wallet. i pull the gun. if he pulls his he is a threat to me then yess i would shoot him



but you could of prevented that by not taking out your gun.

and losing things that i earned and he in no way deserves to take.



so your willing to take someone's life for something like that? god, people like you should be shot(i get the irony)

shooting someone and taking there life are different things depending on where u shoot them

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#128 Rekunta
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  They don't understand the freedom, because they've never had it. They seriously think they are safer, bcause they don't have guns. Apparently they don't realize how easy it is to kill another person without using a gun.

   If I can trust a person not to burn my house down or shank me why can't I trust a person not to shoot me? If I I can trust a person not to put an arrow in me why can't I trust a person not to put a bullet in me?

  As long as you don't give a person a reason to harm you they won't shoot you.

  MagnumPI

 

People don't need a reason to harm anyone.  If they have the means and pay no heed to the consequences that they may face, they will do what they have to to get what they want.  I would trust no one that you don't know well.

Onto another post(not too sure who posted the wallet scenario, this response is to them):

    If I had a gun and someone demanded my wallet with a knife, I would give it to him.  I wouldn't carry a firearm in the first place, but killing someone else for such a small thing like my wallet is just crazy.  It kinda seems more like ego than anything else.  And if you pull a gun on someone, you had better be ready to pull the trigger.  Is it worth it?  No way man.  My wallet and it's contents can easily be replaced, however I will have to live with having killed a person and all that comes with it for the rest of my life.  The only way I would use a firearm would be as an absolute last resort and then some, and only if my life was at risk and death seemed imminent.  But even before that, I would try my best to not put myself into a potentially threatening situation in the first place.

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#129 formula1racer
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Well ive juss decided to buy a new gun so i went with the  all reliable glock 21



well wat u guys think?

i also have a glock 17 and kimber 1911 but if u want a good first time gun i will  recommend the glock 17 perfect right from the box will never jam


bushidotu
what caliber?
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#130 smalls20
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You fail, I suggest you sell your glocks and buy a real gun. I suggest the Sig 226.
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#131 bushidotu
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[QUOTE="bushidotu"]

Well ive juss decided to buy a new gun so i went with the  all reliable glock 21



well wat u guys think?

i also have a glock 17 and kimber 1911 but if u want a good first time gun i will  recommend the glock 17 perfect right from the box will never jam


formula1racer
what caliber?

its a .45 acp=]
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#132 quiglythegreat
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You see, I do not need a gun and don't really plan on owning one ever. Unless you live in the wilderness, you don't need a gun, and even then not really.
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#133 luke1889
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[QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

  They don't understand the freedom, because they've never had it. They seriously think they are safer, bcause they don't have guns. Apparently they don't realize how easy it is to kill another person without using a gun.

   If I can trust a person not to burn my house down or shank me why can't I trust a person not to shoot me? If I I can trust a person not to put an arrow in me why can't I trust a person not to put a bullet in me?

  As long as you don't give a person a reason to harm you they won't shoot you.

  Rekunta

 

People don't need a reason to harm anyone.  If they have the means and pay no heed to the consequences that they may face, they will do what they have to to get what they want.  I would trust no one that you don't know well.

Onto another post(not too sure who posted the wallet scenario, this response is to them):

    If I had a gun and someone demanded my wallet with a knife, I would give it to him.  I wouldn't carry a firearm in the first place, but killing someone else for such a small thing like my wallet is just crazy.  It kinda seems more like ego than anything else.  And if you pull a gun on someone, you had better be ready to pull the trigger.  Is it worth it?  No way man.  My wallet and it's contents can easily be replaced, however I will have to live with having killed a person and all that comes with it for the rest of my life.  The only way I would use a firearm would be as an absolute last resort and then some, and only if my life was at risk and death seemed imminent.  But even before that, I would try my best to not put myself into a potentially threatening situation in the first place.

Well said.
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#134 raiden509
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Umm remind me not to piss you off
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#135 moomooplopmoo
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Pfft.....I could still use my 1337 ninja skills to take you down. Watch out. :wink:
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#136 AngelsFan32
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Why get a gun?
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Why get a gun?AngelsFan32
why get a ps3 or wii cause it entertains u same thing for a gun to me
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#138 limpbizkit818
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You see, I do not need a gun and don't really plan on owning one ever. Unless you live in the wilderness, you don't need a gun, and even then not really.quiglythegreat
People don't need a lot of things they own, they just have them because they can.
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#139 NicktehImperial
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[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]You see, I do not need a gun and don't really plan on owning one ever. Unless you live in the wilderness, you don't need a gun, and even then not really.LIMPBIZKIT818
People don't need a lot of things they own, they just have them because they can.

I wish Fred Durst were alive to see this.
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#141 NicktehImperial
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Sorry for the double post.
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#142 MagnumPI
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[QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

  They don't understand the freedom, because they've never had it. They seriously think they are safer, bcause they don't have guns. Apparently they don't realize how easy it is to kill another person without using a gun.

   If I can trust a person not to burn my house down or shank me why can't I trust a person not to shoot me? If I I can trust a person not to put an arrow in me why can't I trust a person not to put a bullet in me?

  As long as you don't give a person a reason to harm you they won't shoot you.

  Rekunta

 

People don't need a reason to harm anyone.  If they have the means and pay no heed to the consequences that they may face, they will do what they have to to get what they want.  I would trust no one that you don't know well.

Onto another post(not too sure who posted the wallet scenario, this response is to them):

    If I had a gun and someone demanded my wallet with a knife, I would give it to him.  I wouldn't carry a firearm in the first place, but killing someone else for such a small thing like my wallet is just crazy.  It kinda seems more like ego than anything else.  And if you pull a gun on someone, you had better be ready to pull the trigger.  Is it worth it?  No way man.  My wallet and it's contents can easily be replaced, however I will have to live with having killed a person and all that comes with it for the rest of my life.  The only way I would use a firearm would be as an absolute last resort and then some, and only if my life was at risk and death seemed imminent.  But even before that, I would try my best to not put myself into a potentially threatening situation in the first place.

  You don't need a gun to take on a fella with a knife.

  There's always a reason for everything. Like when I scratch my butt, it must be bothering me. Your statetment is full of reasons." People don't need a reason to harm anyone.  If they have the means and pay no heed to the consequences that they may face, they will do what they have to to get what they want.  I would trust no one that you don't know well." May not be good reason but they are reasons. Don't attract their attention and they will leave you alone.

  That would be your personal judgment call. That's your responsibilty. Not a firearms. His actions shall cause a reaction. How you deal with it is your thing.

  If I he had a knife I would just stab him with his own knife. You want my wallet? Come and get it, but when you get stabbed that's your problem.

  Besides.. if you dress low key and don't flash money and valuables around hoodlums won't bother you. A hoodlums knows the score. He knows the game. Nobody gives me what I own, so if he wants it he is going to have to come through me. If he challenges my refusal with lethal intent I will kill him, because if injure him he will sue me. I'd also do it to stop him from harming someone else in the future.

  The wallet is not the issue. The Hoodlum is the issue. Besides people who still have fear show it in the eyes and with their body language. Just like a poker game. If you can see they are bluffing nothing will happen.

  This guy would be willing to hurt YOU over a wallet, some mere money and YOU feel sympathetic and believe his life is worth preserving?

  He decides the outcome, not me. I won't give the douche bag a thing. If he wants to engage me  that's his choice. He either backs down or we go at it, because I don't back down, never have. 

  I carry a dagger concealed on my boot and a second concealed on my belt. They are both as sharp as a fine diamond stone can edge a blade and they are both throwing knives aswell as fighting daggers. So if I really need to, I have those options. But I would prfer to stab a person with his own knife. To add insult to injury.

  But there is really no reason to kill the guy at that point. When I take his knife away he's no long an aggravation. Just let him go because I wouldn't want to bother with a police report anyway.

  Hoodlums look for yuppiess and suckers. So don't go around wearing flashy cloths and flashing around valuables. If  you have flashy atire and valuables they will do the math. If you have expensive stuff, jewelry and other valuables then obviously you have money. So be smart and blend in with crowd. Then you won't have to worry.

 

  

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Man im telling u once u get one gun u cant stop u have to get another one its an expensive living but its a great hobbybushidotu
:P I'll second that. I love shooting...any chance I get I'll shoot my shotguns & rifles. Ammo is expensive, so I usually reload my shotgun shells and rifle bullets to save some money.
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#144 kalonoa6
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good for you?

(good thing im not your neighbor :))

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#145 AngelsFan32
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[QUOTE="AngelsFan32"]Why get a gun?bushidotu
why get a ps3 or wii cause it entertains u same thing for a gun to me

That's dumb
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Neato. Now go out in public and show it off.
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#147 MagnumPI
Member since 2002 • 9617 Posts

[QUOTE="bushidotu"]Man im telling u once u get one gun u cant stop u have to get another one its an expensive living but its a great hobbyChris72b9
:P I'll second that. I love shooting...any chance I get I'll shoot my shotguns & rifles. Ammo is expensive, so I usually reload my shotgun shells and rifle bullets to save some money.

  I actually became bored with shooting. Didn't take me long to achieve sharpshooter. I was and am a natural. I no lnger get free ammunition either.

  If I do go shooting I usually use firearms that chamber. .22 LR or Magnum, .38 Special, .38 Auto, various 9mms. .30 caliber carbine,  .223 and russian 7.62s. As they the cheapest ammo and I can always get more of it cheaper surplus.

  Only .308 & 30-06 when I find it surplus,

  I rarely shoot .270, 300 Mag, 338 Mag or 7mm Mag, 357 Mag, 44 Mag or .380 anymore because the price on the ammunition is high.

  I don't reload because I don't have the patience nor equipment to do it. I also love Magnums. So I would probably push the envelope and come up with some powder load that would break my guns.

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#148 TheJustin
Member since 2006 • 2197 Posts
Man im telling u once u get one gun u cant stop u have to get another one its an expensive living but its a great hobbybushidotu



I know EXACTLY what you are talking about!!!!

Gun Fanatic here!!!

Seriously it is a great hobby


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#149 billnye69
Member since 2003 • 26309 Posts

Now all you have to do is get on a plane and go find some terrorists in Iraq. Become a Splinter Cell. 8)

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#150 geodisicdome
Member since 2005 • 13663 Posts
what will you do with it?