Government might be able to steal YOUR LIFE.

Unless you are crazy or just that dumb, DON'T DO THIS!

I was watching some Glenn Beck (yes, I know OT hates him, get over it) and he showed his audience something absolutely terrifying. Apparentaly, on a site called cars.gov, if you use that system to complete "Cash for Clunkers", it is possible for the government to legally take over your computer. They are apparentally allowed access to all of your files and activities and they can do whatever they want with it and send it to whoever they want. I haven't tested it, but I don't want to. If you have the balls to confirm this, go ahead.

Just some examples, the government can see all the sites you visit, the things you buy online, and even listen in on things like Skype calls LEGALLY.

If the government wants in your computer....they can do it dude. And not just from one site.;)

Right, but seeing as how the world is so ****ing huge and we are more than likely insignficant to them, they have more important things to do than monitor your visits to porn sites or gamespot.

Dude , I don't have anything bad on my computer which could get me in trouble from the government so why should I worry? Also I don't think the government going to give me in trouble for going on sites like redtube.

Down with Big Brother! the_foreign_guy

Well, not like I have anything to hide :?

Yes, it's got and you would handy requirements the dealer needs to find out if the transaction qualifies. It's all right there, in a 136‑page book. It says ‑‑ well, 136 brief pages. I mean, for a $4500 credit that's $33 a page. It's really a flawless plan, it really is. And in no way does it make me nervous for the, you know, the existence of trees once the healthcare bill or energy bill is passed. The trees aren't shaking right now, uh‑uh.Glenn Beck

Thanks for bringing this up, I trust Glenn Beck. We must rid ourselves of the Kenyan dictator Hussein Obama! Remember, my friends, WE surround THEM. Tea party at my house!

Dude , I don't have anything bad on my computer which could get me in trouble from the government so why should I worry? Also I don't think the government going to give me in trouble for going on sites like *******.

EvilSteveo

Down with Big Brother! the_foreign_guy

I was watching some Glenn BeckPyro767

That's the first problem.

Not my precious pictures of silly faces with my friends! :cry:

[QUOTE="the_foreign_guy"]Down with Big Brother! T_P_O

[QUOTE="Pyro767"]I was watching some Glenn BeckGabuEx

That's the first problem.

It seems some of you don't understand. The government will be able to monitor everything you do on your computer with this. And if you use programs like Skype, AIM, Hotmail, G-Mail, they can see and hear all of it. ALL of it. This means that you have no more secrets, they have invaded your life. Plus, they can redistribute this information to anybody they want.Pyro767

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Pyro767"]I was watching some Glenn BeckPyro767

That's the first problem.

[QUOTE="the_foreign_guy"]Down with Big Brother! LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Pyro767"]I was watching some Glenn BeckPyro767

That's the first problem.

It's not really a surprise. Don't they monitor phone calls too, like if you say the word bomb or terrorist your call is immedietly red flaged? This is the kind of crap you get when you let things like the patriot act get passed into law. Honestly, I would rather have my civil liberties and be in slightly more danger than give them up for complete protection. The problem with this stuff is that once it starts, it's hard to stop. I'm not saying the world will become like 1984, but we do have to make sure that we don't lose or personal freedoms just to feel safer.

I wouldn't rely too much on Beck; he's kind of a nutjob.

Right, but seeing as how the world is so ****ing huge and we are more than likely insignficant to them, they have more important things to do than monitor your visits to porn sites or gamespot.

WhiteSnake5000

Yeah, because Glenn Beck is EVIL! You know, he does give us some credible information sometimes.Pyro767

This claim, like just about every claim similar to it, just plain does not pass the logical smell test. There are over three hundred million people living in the United States today. Suppose the average American visits five sites a day, buys one thing online every two weeks, and makes a call on Skype once a month (these stats are deliberately lowballed). That would mean that, in a year, there are 548 billion website visits to process, 7.8 billion online purchases to process, and 3.6 billion calls to process... all for, um, what, exactly?

And why the heck would they attach it to the Cash for Clunkers program of all things? Are people with old cars statistically more likely to be terrorists, or what?

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Pyro767"]I was watching some Glenn BeckPyro767

That's the first problem.

I love Glenn, I agree with him on alot of stuff. But lately he seems to be going "A little", um lets say "cuckoo for coco puffs".

[QUOTE="Pyro767"]Yeah, because Glenn Beck is EVIL! You know, he does give us some credible information sometimes.GabuEx

This claim, like just about every claim similar to it, just plain does not pass the logical smell test. There are over three hundred million people living in the United States today. Suppose the average American visits five sites a day, buys one thing online every two weeks, and makes a call on Skype once a month (these stats are deliberately lowballed). That would mean that, in a year, there are 548 billion website visits to process, 7.8 billion online purchases to process, and 3.6 billion calls to process... all for, um, what, exactly?

And why the heck would they attach it to the Cash for Clunkers program of all things? Are people with old cars statistically more likely to be terrorists, or what?

Whoa, really? I gotta check this out! *Goes to cars.gov*

Almost any network can do that :| I was working on a computer at work and encountered a problem and a guy 75 miles away from me accessed my computer and fixed the problem from his desk :| I'd be more worried about people who aren't under an ethical code my friend.

Down with Big Brother! the_foreign_guy

They already have.

Almost any network can do that :| I was working on a computer at work and encountered a problem and a guy 75 miles away from me accessed my computer and fixed the problem from his desk :| I'd be more worried about people who aren't under an ethical code my friend.

Tiefster

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Almost any network can do that :| I was working on a computer at work and encountered a problem and a guy 75 miles away from me accessed my computer and fixed the problem from his desk :| I'd be more worried about people who aren't under an ethical code my friend.

Pyro767

Pyro767 said:

First of all, yeah those stats are way low as you said.

So, then, you admit there's even more than that for the government to sift through.

Secondly, the government would want this kind of information to see if you are conspiring, check your credit score, see places you go, in a nutshell they can know anything and everything about you and can therefore do anything with you.Pyro767

And they're going to do this for every single American, or at least every single American who uses the Cash for Clunkers program?

You know, there's a reason why organizations like the FBI do actual investigation: it's a lot ****ing easier than attempting to go through every single correspondance of every single person there is in order to find out what they're looking for. You do realize that the people in the government are human beings with human technology, not aliens with access to Deep Thought from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, yes?

You know the people who say they don't like the government? Yeah they can send brainwashing units to their houses (because they are actually starting a program like that).Pyro767

Third, they attached it to cash for clunkers because it is super successful. It sold a few months worth of cars IN A WEEK. Why wouldn't they put it on something that a vast majority of Americans use?Pyro767

Because it basically, um, would require people to voluntarily subject themselves to this. Why not just implement it in a way that there isn't a ridiculously obvious "out"?

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Pyro767"]Yeah, because Glenn Beck is EVIL! You know, he does give us some credible information sometimes.Pyro767

This claim, like just about every claim similar to it, just plain does not pass the logical smell test. There are over three hundred million people living in the United States today. Suppose the average American visits five sites a day, buys one thing online every two weeks, and makes a call on Skype once a month (these stats are deliberately lowballed). That would mean that, in a year, there are 548 billion website visits to process, 7.8 billion online purchases to process, and 3.6 billion calls to process... all for, um, what, exactly?

And why the heck would they attach it to the Cash for Clunkers program of all things? Are people with old cars statistically more likely to be terrorists, or what?

Anyone remember SSBFan? ANy parallels here...

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention something important about this story. Glenn Beck didn't do the actual research for it, it was a regular person. Beck was just regurgitating information.Pyro767

So out of morbid curiosity, what's the actual source for this claim?

[QUOTE="Pyro767"]Oh yeah, I forgot to mention something important about this story. Glenn Beck didn't do the actual research for it, it was a regular person. Beck was just regurgitating information.GabuEx

So out of morbid curiosity, what's the actual source for this claim?

Unless you are crazy or just that dumb, DON'T BELIEVE THIS!

I was watching some Glenn Beck (yes, I know OT hates him, get over it) and he showed his audience something absolutely terrifying. Apparentaly, on a site called cars.gov, if you use that system to complete "Cash for Clunkers", it is possible for the government to legally take over your computer. They are apparentally allowed access to all of your files and activities and they can do whatever they want with it and send it to whoever they want. I haven't tested it, but I don't want to. If you have the balls to confirm this, go ahead.

Just some examples, the government can see all the sites you visit, the things you buy online, and even listen in on things like Skype calls LEGALLY.

Pyro767

You know, I'm gonna guess that some fool lost his computer from this.Pyro767

And he knew that this was part of a government conspiracy how?

Did they send him a text message saying "LOL we r0x3d j00r b0x n00b -the govt"?

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention something important about this story. Glenn Beck didn't do the actual research for it, it was a regular person. Beck was just regurgitating information.Pyro767

You're saying that in defense of Glenn Beck? So basically Beck found some random guy who did some, "research," and came up with a conspiracy, put this guy's claims on the air, and that's supposed to make me think this claim is credible. This is case in point as to why I hate Glenn Beck.

[QUOTE="Pyro767"]Oh yeah, I forgot to mention something important about this story. Glenn Beck didn't do the actual research for it, it was a regular person. Beck was just regurgitating information.theone86

You're saying that in defense of Glenn Beck? So basically Beck found some random guy who did some, "research," and came up with a conspiracy, put this guy's claims on the air, and that's supposed to make me think this claim is credible. This is case in point as to why I hate Glenn Beck.

I am not sure this guy is defending Glenn Beck.

[QUOTE="Pyro767"]You know, I'm gonna guess that some fool lost his computer from this.GabuEx

And he knew that this was part of a government conspiracy how?

Did they send him a text message saying "LOL we r0x3d j00r b0x n00b -the govt"?

I'm on the website right now and I can't find anything. Maybe this is all part of some bigger conspiracy involving the mysterious FEMA camps that Beck loves so much.-Sun_Tzu-

Fine, if it is a conspiracy, prove it. Go there right now and sign up with the cash for clunkers. Do it now and prove me wrong.Pyro767

I neither am an American nor do I own a car.

But more to the point, are you seriously telling me that we're supposed to take the say-so of some random unnamed guy who could very well be either paranoid or full-on schizophrenic that he somehow knows the government has taken full control of his computer as a result of signing up for the Cash for Clunkers program? I mean, really? Rather than us having to prove you wrong, why don't you prove yourself right?

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Pyro767"]You know, I'm gonna guess that some fool lost his computer from this.Pyro767

And he knew that this was part of a government conspiracy how?

Did they send him a text message saying "LOL we r0x3d j00r b0x n00b -the govt"?

I think you've got it backwards, the person with the crazy theory should be the one who has to offer proof, not the other way around.