Guns don't kill people, people kill people...

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="luamhtrad"]

Just remember that pools are more dangerous than guns OR desert rocks. ;)

luamhtrad

I disagree. Guns and pools can't kill by themselves. They require explicit interaction of a human being to cause death. Accidental shootings and drownings are the direct result of someone using the gun or pool incorrectly. If you don't know how to shoot or handle guns then don't pick one up. If you don't know how to swim in a pool, don't get in one. The owner of these items is responsible for his/her personal safety and the safety of others in regards to the guns and pools that he/she owns.

Doctors kill more people than guns. Are we going to outlaw them as well?UT_Wrestler

Barely anybody is saying either should be banned, the most that is being said is that guns are dangerous objects which need to be treated responsibily or else they can cause injury or death.

[QUOTE="THUMPTABLE"]

[QUOTE="luamhtrad"]

Because my country is a nation founded on defending freedom. Yours is just a former prison.

luamhtrad

Freedom to get shot maybe. A fomer prison, where did you get that info?

Ugh.

Americans really need to stop learning their Australian history from Wikipedia and that Simpsons episode if they want to stop being mocked.

[QUOTE="luamhtrad"]

[QUOTE="THUMPTABLE"]

Freedom to get shot maybe. A fomer prison, where did you get that info?

Danm_999

Ugh.

Americans really need to stop learning their Australian history from Wikipedia and that Simpsons episode if they want to stop being mocked.

Mock us all you want to. That doesn't change the fact that Australia started out as a penal colony system in the British Empire. The same thing happened in the Colonies of America as well, UNTIL WE FOUGHT FOR AND WON OUR FREEDOM. Austrailia was content to be associated with British rule until about oh, 1986. Good on ya mate. ;)

And what are the actual chances you'll stumble upon a psychotic killer in your life? I mean, really!

If you're to prepare yourself in the eventuality of encountering a psychotic killer, why stop there? Might as well prepare yourself in the eventuality of having a satellite debris land right on your head. Or prepare yourself in the eventuality of being eaten alive by a rabid, albinos gopher.

I don't know, guys! We just seem to have a totally different day-to-day reality. Where we stayed 3 years ago, we had a car explode with a man inside (he survived!), a man punched another one almost to death, our direct neighbours got robbed, we've seen 2 police raids and yet, in the 5 years my wife, our daughter and I lived there, never have I wished I had a gun handy. Sure, we got the hell out of that block but the idea of owning a gun 'to be ready' never, ever crossed my mind.

You can't live in fear all your life.

QuebecSuperstar

I really think the only constructive criticism I can say for guns is just that the regulations are too lax with the gun show loop hole and other such things.. It seems entirely too easy to get a gun even when your mentally disturbed.sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]I really think the only constructive criticism I can say for guns is just that the regulations are too lax with the gun show loop hole and other such things.. It seems entirely too easy to get a gun even when your mentally disturbed.CptJSparrow

There has been legislation that has made it to at least committee level in some states that would require Doctors (including Psychiatrists) to catalog patients who have been prescribed anti-depressive or anti-psychotic medications so they could be cross referenced during background checks to flag for further qualifications of gun ownership. Namely a full psych profile would be conducted prior to obtaining approval for purchase. After completing said analysis, a buyer could have the background check re-run and then be able to purchase a firearm. These types of screens would have flagged over 90% of the mass shootings in the past decade that were conducted with legally bought weapons. Shootings that were carried out with illegally obtained firearms would of course not have been affected.

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]I really think the only constructive criticism I can say for guns is just that the regulations are too lax with the gun show loop hole and other such things.. It seems entirely too easy to get a gun even when your mentally disturbed.luamhtrad

There has been legislation that has made it to at least committee level in some states that would require Doctors (including Psychiatrists) to catalog patients who have been prescribed anti-depressive or anti-psychotic medications so they could be cross referenced during background checks to flag for further qualifications of gun ownership. Namely a full psych profile would be conducted prior to obtaining approval for purchase. After completing said analysis, a buyer could have the background check re-run and then be able to purchase a firearm. These types of screens would have flagged over 90% of the mass shootings in the past decade that were conducted with legally bought weapons. Shootings that were carried out with illegally obtained firearms would of course not have been affected.

Even than there isn't much they could do.. Afterall they can build explosives in their garage that can be just as dangerous if not more so... The only real gun violence that needs to be attacked is gang violence, usually in poverty stricken areas across the country.

I truly despise bumper sticker philosophy, particularly when it marginalizes something I support by virtue of absurdity.

Gun owners have a statistically higher chance of shooting people they love that live in the same household more than others. The availability of a gun leads to higher gun murders, mostly to people that are close to the individual.

Gun owners have a statistically higher chance of shooting people they love that live in the same household more than others. The availability of a gun leads to higher gun murders, mostly to people that are close to the individual.

starfox15

Care to back that statement up with some sources?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8371731?dopt=Abstract

Heres the abstract to a study on homocide with family members.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm

Here's what guns contribute to homocide cases in the US.

I don't know what to tell you. People are going to find an easy way to kill someone and the de facto method is to shoot them. A fairly large amount of people who live with other people and with guns have an (obviously) higher rate of killing or injuring the very people they are trying to protect.