Guy who hacked Scarlett Johansson's nude pics could face 121 years in jail

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#101 Oleg_Huzwog
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OMG! dat mor den MURDERERERS!!1!

The could in the title is the same as I could die of a meteor strike today. Good lord, some of you are easily riled.

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#102 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="dagreenfish"] I think there actually was theft. Dude, took the pictures and I read somewhere that other information may have been taken as well. I'd consider that theft.dagreenfish

theft is when a material good is lost, she lost nothing, the other person may have gained but she lost nothing.

Not sure if that is legally true or not. Such as intellectual property and such. The original owner still hasn't physically lost anything, but it's still considered theft.

you need state licensing to protect your personal information under IP laws, like when fred dirts sued tyrone norris for posting his sex tape,, fred got his vid copyrighted expose facto and was able to sue for millions, also illegal to sue people expose facto but when has the law ever gotten in the way of suing people you dont like.

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#103 dagreenfish
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[QUOTE="dagreenfish"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] theft is when a material good is lost, she lost nothing, the other person may have gained but she lost nothing.

surrealnumber5

Not sure if that is legally true or not. Such as intellectual property and such. The original owner still hasn't physically lost anything, but it's still considered theft.

you need state licensing to protect your personal information under IP laws, like when fred dirts sued tyrone norris for posting his sex tape,, fred got his vid copyrighted expose facto and was able to sue for millions, also illegal to sue people expose facto but when has the law ever gotten in the way of suing people you dont like.

First, I'd like to express my horror that Fred durst had a sex tape *shudder*. So if somebody hacks into a persons computer/ phone whatever and steals private and personal info, the victim has no legal recourse to address the theft unless they copyright their private info? Not doubting the legal precendent, but still seems like theft to me. *shrug*
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#104 Bucked20
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Really 121 years,they couldn't just fine him
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#105 supa_badman
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The pictures are worth every single year. :P

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#106 worlock77
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Really 121 years,they couldn't just fine him Bucked20

He's not going to get 121 years. He could get 121 years, in theory. But that isn't going to happen.

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#107 metallica_fan42
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**** him. He's a hacker. I hate losers like that.
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#108 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="dagreenfish"] Not sure if that is legally true or not. Such as intellectual property and such. The original owner still hasn't physically lost anything, but it's still considered theft. dagreenfish

you need state licensing to protect your personal information under IP laws, like when fred dirts sued tyrone norris for posting his sex tape,, fred got his vid copyrighted expose facto and was able to sue for millions, also illegal to sue people expose facto but when has the law ever gotten in the way of suing people you dont like.

First, I'd like to express my horror that Fred durst had a sex tape *shudder*. So if somebody hacks into a persons computer/ phone whatever and steals private and personal info, the victim has no legal recourse to address the theft unless they copyright their private info? Not doubting the legal precendent, but still seems like theft to me. *shrug*

in the dirts case none of the publishers were the hacker, and they all got sued, the court system much like the other arms of the government do not know how to treat digital information in a piratical and "fair" way. there is invasion of privacy, but it could be argued that keeping your ports open in a public place shows you have an intent to share. i am conflicted on how these things should be treated but i know one thing i can stand firm on, no persons life should be effectively ended because another person is sad or mad.

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#109 worlock77
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[QUOTE="dagreenfish"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] you need state licensing to protect your personal information under IP laws, like when fred dirts sued tyrone norris for posting his sex tape,, fred got his vid copyrighted expose facto and was able to sue for millions, also illegal to sue people expose facto but when has the law ever gotten in the way of suing people you dont like.

surrealnumber5

First, I'd like to express my horror that Fred durst had a sex tape *shudder*. So if somebody hacks into a persons computer/ phone whatever and steals private and personal info, the victim has no legal recourse to address the theft unless they copyright their private info? Not doubting the legal precendent, but still seems like theft to me. *shrug*

in the dirts case none of the publishers were the hacker, and they all got sued, the court system much like the other arms of the government do not know how to treat digital information in a piratical and "fair" way. there is invasion of privacy, but it could be argued that keeping your ports open in a public place shows you have an intent to share. i am conflicted on how these things should be treated but i know one thing i can stand firm on, no persons life should be effectively ended because another person is sad or mad.

It's not going to be effectively ended. He isn't going to get 121 years. He'll do a few years at the most.

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#110 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="dagreenfish"] First, I'd like to express my horror that Fred durst had a sex tape *shudder*. So if somebody hacks into a persons computer/ phone whatever and steals private and personal info, the victim has no legal recourse to address the theft unless they copyright their private info? Not doubting the legal precendent, but still seems like theft to me. *shrug*worlock77

in the dirts case none of the publishers were the hacker, and they all got sued, the court system much like the other arms of the government do not know how to treat digital information in a piratical and "fair" way. there is invasion of privacy, but it could be argued that keeping your ports open in a public place shows you have an intent to share. i am conflicted on how these things should be treated but i know one thing i can stand firm on, no persons life should be effectively ended because another person is sad or mad.

It's not going to be effectively ended. He isn't going to get 121 years. He'll do a few years at the most.

if the range is 1-121 and there is an even probability throughout then chances are his life will be forfeit if he is convicted.

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#111 parkurtommo
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I think he should be given a medal or something....what he did was a gift

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They weren't that hot though :/
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#112 BlackHawk340
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**** him. He's a hacker. I hate losers like that.metallica_fan42

You must sure hate your goverment aswell then.

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#113 Am_Confucius
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Nude pics = 121 years.

Baby killing = No imprisonment.

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#114 M4Ntan
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shouldn't it be peoples own fault if they take risks and have pictures of them self naked on their cell phones?

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#115 MushroomWig
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shouldn't it be peoples own fault if they take risks and have pictures of them self naked on their cell phones?

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True, he still committed a crime though.
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#116 dagreenfish
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[QUOTE="dagreenfish"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] you need state licensing to protect your personal information under IP laws, like when fred dirts sued tyrone norris for posting his sex tape,, fred got his vid copyrighted expose facto and was able to sue for millions, also illegal to sue people expose facto but when has the law ever gotten in the way of suing people you dont like.

surrealnumber5

First, I'd like to express my horror that Fred durst had a sex tape *shudder*. So if somebody hacks into a persons computer/ phone whatever and steals private and personal info, the victim has no legal recourse to address the theft unless they copyright their private info? Not doubting the legal precendent, but still seems like theft to me. *shrug*

in the dirts case none of the publishers were the hacker, and they all got sued, the court system much like the other arms of the government do not know how to treat digital information in a piratical and "fair" way. there is invasion of privacy, but it could be argued that keeping your ports open in a public place shows you have an intent to share. i am conflicted on how these things should be treated but i know one thing i can stand firm on, no persons life should be effectively ended because another person is sad or mad.

Although regulating digital information is dicey, I think the open ports show "intent to share" argument, is weak at best. It is pretty analogous to leaving your front door open or car unlocked. Sure, it may be negligent and your insurance company may not cover it, but nobody would claim that demonstrates you are willing to share your property.
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#117 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] in the dirts case none of the publishers were the hacker, and they all got sued, the court system much like the other arms of the government do not know how to treat digital information in a piratical and "fair" way. there is invasion of privacy, but it could be argued that keeping your ports open in a public place shows you have an intent to share. i am conflicted on how these things should be treated but i know one thing i can stand firm on, no persons life should be effectively ended because another person is sad or mad.

surrealnumber5

It's not going to be effectively ended. He isn't going to get 121 years. He'll do a few years at the most.

if the range is 1-121 and there is an even probability throughout then chances are his life will be forfeit if he is convicted.

Chances are he'll be convicted of a few counts, recieve less than the maximum on each count, and be ordered to serve his terms concurrently, and then get paroled when half his sentince is up. He'll do a few years and then maybe have a few years of probation once he's out.

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#118 worlock77
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shouldn't it be peoples own fault if they take risks and have pictures of them self naked on their cell phones?

M4Ntan

How is that their fault? If I, for some reason, leave my car unlocked in my driveway and somebody hotwires it and steals it is it my fault they stole it? Should that be a legal defense?

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#119 Bloodseeker23
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Kudos for what he did.
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#120 ToastRider11
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This doesn't seem quite right. 121 years just for showing stolen nude photos of scarlett johansson and hacking into other celebrities? If he raped and killed her then thats is understandable but our court and justice system is screwed up. Psychotic serial killers don't even get that long of a sentence.

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#121 ToastRider11
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**** him. He's a hacker. I hate losers like that.metallica_fan42
I guess you fluncked out of hackers school then? :P

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#122 Legenkiller59
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[QUOTE="M4Ntan"]

shouldn't it be peoples own fault if they take risks and have pictures of them self naked on their cell phones?

MushroomWig

True, he still committed a crime though.

that is very true

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#123 worlock77
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Goddamn, does nobody bother to read beyond the headline of a news story or thread?

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#124 curono
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[QUOTE="blackacidevil96"]

I think he should be given a medal or something....what he did was a gift

Neo-ganon

you said it brother! ;)

-bro fist-

Perverts around the internet salute him. :lol: But seriously, this is a big shock just because she is famous. If she was a nobody police wouldn't even CARE

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#125 worlock77
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[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]

[QUOTE="blackacidevil96"]

I think he should be given a medal or something....what he did was a gift

curono

you said it brother! ;)

-bro fist-

Perverts around the internet salute him. :lol: But seriously, this is a big shock just because she is famous. If she was a nobody police wouldn't even CARE

A: Police don't prosecute crimes, the courts do.

B: If she wasn't famous the media wouldn't be reporting it. That doesn't mean he wouldn't be prosecuted.

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#126 vfibsux
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But you know just as much as I do there's no way they'll actually give him anywhere near that amount.

Johannson wasn't the only one hacked, the sentence is supposed to be a total of charges from all the people he hacked since he hacked a few other people.

Pretty outrageous considering that if they really did give him the maximum he would probably be dead of old age before he even completed half of it.

ad1x2
Meanwhile pedophiles get 5 years with a chance of parole in 6 months, and guys like Plaxico Buress, while stupid did 2 years for shooting himself in the leg. Our justice system is so out of wack it is pathetic.
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#127 Randoggy
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These pictures exist? I need to find them now.
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#128 JML897
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[QUOTE="ad1x2"]

But you know just as much as I do there's no way they'll actually give him anywhere near that amount.

Johannson wasn't the only one hacked, the sentence is supposed to be a total of charges from all the people he hacked since he hacked a few other people.

Pretty outrageous considering that if they really did give him the maximum he would probably be dead of old age before he even completed half of it.

vfibsux

Meanwhile pedophiles get 5 years with a chance of parole in 6 months, and guys like Plaxico Buress, while stupid did 2 years for shooting himself in the leg. Our justice system is so out of wack it is pathetic.

:lol:

Cue worlock...

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#129 Solid_Snake325
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Those pictures weren't even good....
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#130 MushroomWig
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These pictures exist? I need to find them now.Randoggy
Yeah, you could find them easily if you looked, they're not very exciting though.
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#131 Ballroompirate
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[QUOTE="blackacidevil96"]

I think he should be given a medal or something....what he did was a gift

Neo-ganon

you said it brother! ;)

-bro fist-

I have to agree, I remember I was at work/in the field when I heard about it on the radio and got my phone to look them up lol.

I can see everyone in prison giving that guy a bro fist....hell I would give the guy one right now.

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#132 sexyweapons
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JUSTICE!

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#133 markop2003
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Computer crimes pretty much always get treated stupidly
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#134 Ghost_702
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That's a bit ridiculous. The man who videotaped Erin Andrews in her hotel room through a peephole only got 2.5 years in prison and to me, that's far more invasive. Obviously though there is also the case of this hacker doing his thing to 50 people as opposed to 1.
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#135 Optical_Order
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[QUOTE="curono"]

[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]

you said it brother! ;)

-bro fist-

worlock77

Perverts around the internet salute him. :lol: But seriously, this is a big shock just because she is famous. If she was a nobody police wouldn't even CARE

A: Police don't prosecute crimes, the courts do.

B: If she wasn't famous the media wouldn't be reporting it. That doesn't mean he wouldn't be prosecuted.

You can bet your ass he wouldn't be looking at 121 years though.

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#136 ad1x2
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That's a bit ridiculous. The man who videotaped Erin Andrews in her hotel room through a peephole only got 2.5 years in prison and to me, that's far more invasive. Obviously though there is also the case of this hacker doing his thing to 50 people as opposed to 1. Ghost_702

The reason why they said 121 years is because they are totaling up the maximum amount he could get for all of his charges if they gave him the max sentence for each one and made him serve his sentence consecutively instead of concurrently. It's no different than when they bust some guy with child porn they talk about he could get thousands of years in jail because they are charging him for each picture he has and he has a crapload of them but in the end he only does a few years which doesn't even come close to the proposed sentence.

There are other guys who probably faced sentences like this before but it doesn't make the news because people want to hear about what happens to the guy that stole Scarlett's pics but could care less about the guy who stole the picks of that hot girl that works the cash register at your local Taco Bell. A few years back there was a murder trial that was famous for one reason and one reason only: Oprah Winfrey was picked as one of the jurors. If she wasn't nobody would have even heard of it.

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#137 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="curono"] Perverts around the internet salute him. :lol: But seriously, this is a big shock just because she is famous. If she was a nobody police wouldn't even CARE

Optical_Order

A: Police don't prosecute crimes, the courts do.

B: If she wasn't famous the media wouldn't be reporting it. That doesn't mean he wouldn't be prosecuted.

You can bet your ass he wouldn't be looking at 121 years though.

He is charged with something like 25 counts. That 121 years is if he's convicted on all counts, and if he's sentenced to the maximum for each count, and if he's ordered to serve each sentence consecutively, rather than concurrently (as is the usual). That's a whole lot of "if" there.

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#138 _Colossus_
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That can't be right.. 121 years?! Not like he kidnapped, tortured, raped and then brutally killed someone. Geez.. :?

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#139 VaguelyTagged
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it must be scarlet's way to get some extra attention.

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#140 JML897
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That can't be right.. 121 years?! Not like he kidnapped, tortured, raped and then brutally killed someone. Geez.. :?

_Colossus_

Dude

The post right above yours explains why he's looking at so many years.

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#141 MistressMinako
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Well, don't put anything on your computer/website/etc thinking that it won't get stolen. This is as much as her fault as it is his. Besides, she is very attractive. She should take this as a compliment.
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#142 grape_of_wrath
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Sometimes I think news-oriented threads in OT could be a training grounds for PR-spins.
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#143 ad1x2
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Besides, she is very attractive. She should take this as a compliment.MistressMinako

Would you take it as a compliment if you caught some peeping tom spying on your girlfriend? Or would you walk over there and procede to stomp him into the ground?

A lot of guys are glad he did what he did but it doesn't take away the fact he broke the law.

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#144 _Colossus_
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[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="_Colossus_"]

That can't be right.. 121 years?! Not like he kidnapped, tortured, raped and then brutally killed someone. Geez.. :?

Dude

The post right above yours explains why he's looking at so many years.

Dude Yes, I know. Still pretty damn high.
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#145 CommanderShiro
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Guy is from Jax. Repping my hometown proud.

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#146 MistressMinako
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[QUOTE="MistressMinako"] Besides, she is very attractive. She should take this as a compliment.ad1x2

Would you take it as a compliment if you caught some peeping tom spying on your girlfriend? Or would you walk over there and procede to stomp him into the ground?

A lot of guys are glad he did what he did but it doesn't take away the fact he broke the law.

I was actually kidding but even though it is against the law she shouldn't be surprised that someone was going to do it. And well to answer the question, yes and no. Apparently he thought she was attractive but the way he is handling it is way out of the ordinary. Would I take violence into it? Depends on how worse it gets. I don't know I mean yeah he should be locked up but just because it is against the law doesn't mean people are just going to follow the law and that is why we need cautions.
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#147 worlock77
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Well, don't put anything on your computer/website/etc thinking that it won't get stolen. This is as much as her fault as it is his. Besides, she is very attractive. She should take this as a compliment.MistressMinako

So I guess you'd be cool with someone getting nude photos of you and plastering them on the internet?

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#148 ScottMescudi
Member since 2011 • 1550 Posts

The justice system baffles me. Always has done, always will.

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That is why people in US (And the world) are going against corruption. Sadly, some arrogant people here aren't willing to admit it and blindly state that US is perfect. They're enjoying Bernanke's jock strap :(
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#149 worlock77
Member since 2009 • 22552 Posts

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

The justice system baffles me. Always has done, always will.

ScottMescudi

That is why people in US (And the world) are going against corruption. Sadly, some arrogant people here aren't willing to admit it and blindly state that US is perfect. They're enjoying Bernanke's jock strap :(

*Wonders what Bernake has to do with this*

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#150 MistressMinako
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[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]Well, don't put anything on your computer/website/etc thinking that it won't get stolen. This is as much as her fault as it is his. Besides, she is very attractive. She should take this as a compliment.worlock77

So I guess you'd be cool with someone getting nude photos of you and plastering them on the internet?

Well, did I know the pictures were taken? If so, then no but that was my fault for being careless. Once people have a hold of those they can do whatever, even if it is against the law. I would still probably try to get them arrested but I will still feel like it was partly my fault.

Unless you were referring to the her being attractive so it is cool portion, I was actually kidding about that. I just thought people would think I was joking, sorry.