http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/09/12/scicern312.xml Wow, why would these people do that?? They are probably afraid it will destroy the world the LHC, but they try to attack it which will just mess it up and then something bad will happen. What is wrong with people??
With all the people being worried about this, I don't think the people who have been working on the LHC should have ever told anyone about it.
Haha that's pretty neat. And apparently they are not afraid of the LHC, they're simply doing what hackers do best; proving they can hack into something.
I dont see why they have to spend billions just to smash to bits of matter together. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW ANYTHING! Even if they do, it will only explain to them some stuff they didnt know before. It cant be practically used to advance technology or anything.
I dont see why they have to spend billions just to smash to bits of matter together. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW ANYTHING! Even if they do, it will only explain to them some stuff they didnt know before. It cant be practically used to advance technology or anything.GetEnTheKitchen
particles like dark matter and dark energy contain energy that might benefit humanity in the future
the LHC might be able to capture some and study them
I dont see why they have to spend billions just to smash to bits of matter together. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW ANYTHING! Even if they do, it will only explain to them some stuff they didnt know before. It cant be practically used to advance technology or anything.GetEnTheKitchen
I dont see why they have to spend billions just to smash to bits of matter together. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW ANYTHING! Even if they do, it will only explain to them some stuff they didnt know before. It cant be practically used to advance technology or anything.GetEnTheKitchen
You are, I assume, aware that we got the Internet because of the LHC project?
I dont see why they have to spend billions just to smash to bits of matter together. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW ANYTHING! Even if they do, it will only explain to them some stuff they didnt know before. It cant be practically used to advance technology or anything.GetEnTheKitchen
Feel free to call up CERN and explain that their research will never yield new technology. I'm sure your high level of expertise on particle physics will convince without any effort.
Do you think the scientists working on the LHC regret telling people what they were doing at this point? In the future i think scientists will be far more inclined to let people live in ignorance if they're going to react like this.
[QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]I dont see why they haveto spend billions just to smash to bits of matter together. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW ANYTHING! Even if they do, it will only explain to them some stuff they didnt know before. It cant be practically used to advance technology or anything.Funky_Llama
You are, I assume, aware that we got the Internet because of the LHC project?
That's not entirely true. D.A.R.P.A is really responsible for the Internet ( as far as humans are concern ) Governments are way more advanced then the public. You couldn't imagine some of the stuff they are keeping from you.
wiki.answers.com/Q/When_was_the_Internet_invented
Do you think the scientists working on the LHC regret telling people what they were doing at this point? In the future i think scientists will be far more inclined to let people live in ignorance if they're going to react like this.Ninja-Hippo
I dont see why they have to spend billions just to smash to bits of matter together. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW ANYTHING! Even if they do, it will only explain to them some stuff they didnt know before. It cant be practically used to advance technology or anything.GetEnTheKitchen
Sure, and what is the point of "lasers"? Collimated beams of light? Big deal, no practical application. ARPANet? Bah, you made a couple of computers talk to each other, so? Penicillin? Meh, you grew some moldy bread. Your perspective is alarmingly short term, in addition to failing to see any value in advancing human understanding of the universe.
I don't think this thing will advance humanity as much as some of you think. Maybe our understanding of physics will be solidified a bit more, but I bet it'll raise more questions and it's largest affect will be changes in physics textbooks.
I don't think this thing will advance humanity as much as some of you think. Maybe our understanding of physics will be solidified a bit more, but I bet it'll raise more questions and it's largest affect will be changes in physics textbooks.
Do you think the scientists working on the LHC regret telling people what they were doing at this point? In the future i think scientists will be far more inclined to let people live in ignorance if they're going to react like this.Ninja-Hippo
welcome to any scientific advancement with any sort of media coverage.
I don't think this thing will advance humanity as much as some of you think. Maybe our understanding of physics will be solidified a bit more, but I bet it'll raise more questions and it's largest affect will be changes in physics textbooks.
But anything drastic? I doubt it.
Brainkiller05
Anti matter wants a word with you. Though admittedly that is already in fairly wide use in medical technology, since PET scans use positrons (anti-electrons) for detailed internal imaging. If you've ever had a PET scan, part of your body (though only a few electrons) has been annihilated in a matter-antimatter reaction :P
Give them jobs... protect the holy grail of science from fundamentalists. They obviously didn't mean any harm, they obviously have a vested interest in keeping the project alive and well:
"[...]the hackers said they had no intention of disrupting the work of the atom smasher."
Give them jobs... protect the holy grail of science from fundamentalists. They obviously didn't mean any harm, they obviously have a vested interest in keeping the project alive and well:
"[...]the hackers said they had no intention of disrupting the work of the atom smasher."foxhound_fox
Yup that's what I was thinking. These are the good king of hackers. :P
[QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]I dont see why they have to spend billions just to smash to bits of matter together. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW ANYTHING! Even if they do, it will only explain to them some stuff they didnt know before. It cant be practically used to advance technology or anything.xaos
Sure, and what is the point of "lasers"? Collimated beams of light? Big deal, no practical application. ARPANet? Bah, you made a couple of computers talk to each other, so? Penicillin? Meh, you grew some moldy bread. Your perspective is alarmingly short term, in addition to failing to see any value in advancing human understanding of the universe.
what i love is that his Sig talks about "change". I guess the only change he really wants is rhetorical, and not the kind that could change the way we see the world.
Hopefully they were just trying to prove that the system was hackable, ultimately this is probably a good thing, CERN will now know they have to upgrade their security and hopefully be able to prevent more malicious hackers from you know, destroying the universe...
I bet it's AVALANCHE. They've been in hiatus for some time now.metallica_fan42
Crud! We all know how they react too. I think this isn't something we should worry about. No doubt CERN try to fix security holes and these Hackers seem like they aren't trying to break the LHC just insure some nutjob hacker doesn't. After all right now it has a chance of like 8x10^-27 or something like that (I can't cite a source, sorry this was in june I read this) so unless someone finds a way to hack physics then everything will be fine. People think the sky is falling...
Sounded like a stupid attempt of gaining e-cred. I doubt they'd want to screw something up, not sure if they'd know how to screw something up even if they wanted to.
Sounded like a stupid attempt of gaining e-cred. I doubt they'd want to screw something up, not sure if they'd know how to screw something up even if they wanted to.Hungry_bunny
If they can hack into CERN, the people who invented the internet, I'm betting they could screw something up if they wanted to.
I dont see why they have to spend billions just to smash to bits of matter together. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW ANYTHING! Even if they do, it will only explain to them some stuff they didnt know before. It cant be practically used to advance technology or anything.GetEnTheKitchen
[QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]I dont see why they have to spend billions just to smash to bits of matter together. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW ANYTHING! Even if they do, it will only explain to them some stuff they didnt know before. It cant be practically used to advance technology or anything.ithilgore2006
Feel free to call up CERN and explain that their research will never yield new technology. I'm sure your high level of expertise on particle physics will convince without any effort.
The people working on it even say it might not reveal the "god particle" their looking for.
I dont see why they have to spend billions just to smash to bits of matter together. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW ANYTHING! Even if they do, it will only explain to them some stuff they didnt know before. It cant be practically used to advance technology or anything.GetEnTheKitchen
Totally correct! We should use all the money wasted by research to build more bombs, planes, guns, tanks, missiles, and bullets!
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