Hackers have mounted an attack on the Large Hadron Collider

[QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]I dont see why they have to spend billions just to smash to bits of matter together. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW ANYTHING! Even if they do, it will only explain to them some stuff they didnt know before. It cant be practically used to advance technology or anything.tocklestein2005

Totally correct! We should use all the money wasted by research to build more bombs, planes, guns, tanks, missiles, and bullets!

Atleast that would actually effect us. This is just a stunt. Its like proving that theirs water on some planet. Ok, theres water on it, what now?

If this was actually going to provide something benefical to humanity, you would see this all over the news, people would be excited. Guess what, no one cares about it.

Aren't they using an Intranet? They can't have it plugged to the Internet can they? oh my god that project is so going to fail. Anyone who's read my other posts will know what I mean. They'll be better off turning all that space they dug up into a giant underground McDonalds.

[QUOTE="Hungry_bunny"]Sounded like a stupid attempt of gaining e-cred. I doubt they'd want to screw something up, not sure if they'd know how to screw something up even if they wanted to.FalcoLX

Atleast that would actually effect us. This is just a stunt. Its like proving that theirs water on some planet. Ok, theres water on it, what now?

If this was actually going to provide something benefical to humanity, you would see this all over the news, people would be excited. Guess what, no one cares about it.

GetEnTheKitchen

This isn't just a "stunt" though. This is the modern age equivilant of the cavemen who banged two pieces of flint together and made fire. Yes, no-one knows exactly how this will turn out, but it certainly isn't a waste.

And proving water is on a planet proves that there's oxygen, which in turn proves there's at least bacterial lifeforms there.

[QUOTE="tocklestein2005"]

[QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]I dont see why they have to spend billions just to smash to bits of matter together. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW ANYTHING! Even if they do, it will only explain to them some stuff they didnt know before. It cant be practically used to advance technology or anything.GetEnTheKitchen

Totally correct! We should use all the money wasted by research to build more bombs, planes, guns, tanks, missiles, and bullets!

Atleast that would actually effect us. This is just a stunt. Its like proving that theirs water on some planet. Ok, theres water on it, what now?

If this was actually going to provide something benefical to humanity, you would see this all over the news, people would be excited. Guess what, no one cares about it.

[QUOTE="tocklestein2005"]

[QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]I dont see why they have to spend billions just to smash to bits of matter together. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW ANYTHING! Even if they do, it will only explain to them some stuff they didnt know before. It cant be practically used to advance technology or anything.GetEnTheKitchen

Totally correct! We should use all the money wasted by research to build more bombs, planes, guns, tanks, missiles, and bullets!

Atleast that would actually effect us. This is just a stunt. Its like proving that theirs water on some planet. Ok, theres water on it, what now?

If this was actually going to provide something benefical to humanity, you would see this all over the news, people would be excited. Guess what, no one cares about it.

i care about it. and i dont think the us spent any money on this so i dont see why you care.

proving theres water on a planet means there might have been life, then u goto the planet to study it further

Wow, this is the most depressing post I've seen in days; please stop using any technology, antibiotics or anything else that was developed out of pure, undirected research. Maybe then you will understand how insanely provincial your perspective is.xaos

Excellent point. Just like the first person who milked a cow. We're greatful but makes you wonder why they did it.

Two possibilities:
1) Great leaps in physics research are made and my life is unaffected

2) everything and everyone spontaneously cease to exist and I don't care because I'm dead.

gamer_10001

Hopefully it doesn't get hacked while the machine is doing its thing. Although it would be funny if the hackers ended up making the machine kill us all.

Well, it would be funny till i'm dead. Than i would have no opinion.

[QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"][QUOTE="tocklestein2005"]

[QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]I dont see why they have to spend billions just to smash to bits of matter together. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW ANYTHING! Even if they do, it will only explain to them some stuff they didnt know before. It cant be practically used to advance technology or anything.xaos

Totally correct! We should use all the money wasted by research to build more bombs, planes, guns, tanks, missiles, and bullets!

Atleast that would actually effect us. This is just a stunt. Its like proving that theirs water on some planet. Ok, theres water on it, what now?

If this was actually going to provide something benefical to humanity, you would see this all over the news, people would be excited. Guess what, no one cares about it.

I would rather worry about the here and now than some machine that cant really do anything for me. Heres what can happen:

1: Nothing happens.

2: World ends.

3: Machine breaks.

4: We discover something amazing that has no practical benefits.

Can anyone answer this one question? What will this do to help humanity?

[QUOTE="gamer_10001"]

Two possibilities:
1) Great leaps in physics research are made and my life is unaffected

2) everything and everyone spontaneously cease to exist and I don't care because I'm dead.

angelkimne

[QUOTE="tocklestein2005"]

[QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]I dont see why they have to spend billions just to smash to bits of matter together. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW ANYTHING! Even if they do, it will only explain to them some stuff they didnt know before. It cant be practically used to advance technology or anything.GetEnTheKitchen

Totally correct! We should use all the money wasted by research to build more bombs, planes, guns, tanks, missiles, and bullets!

Atleast that would actually effect us. This is just a stunt. Its like proving that theirs water on some planet. Ok, theres water on it, what now?

If this was actually going to provide something benefical to humanity, you would see this all over the news, people would be excited. Guess what, no one cares about it.

I would rather worry about the here and now than some machine that cant really do anything for me. Heres what can happen:

1: Nothing happens.

2: World ends.

3: Machine breaks.

4: We discover something amazing that has no practical benefits.

Can anyone answer this one question? What will this do to help humanity?

GetEnTheKitchen

1 - Perfectly possible. But I'm sure that £9 million wouldn't be spent on something that might not work.

2 - No. The machine doesn't produce nearly enough power to do even a tenth of what the media is hyping.

3 - Nothing's perfect.

4 - We could discover dark matter, which in theory can be a new fuel source, or the Higg Boson which can explain the origins of our universe.

I would rather worry about the here and now than some machine that cant really do anything for me. Heres what can happen:

1: Nothing happens.

2: World ends.

3: Machine breaks.

4: We discover something amazing that has no practical benefits.

Can anyone answer this one question? What will this do to help humanity?

GetEnTheKitchen

The understanding of physics is essential to any further progress for human civilization. It has the potential to drastically improve human life. as xaos said, if you don't care for science, don't both with medicine or automobiles in the future. you're more affected even by things like nuclear power more than you would think (20% of US power is derived from this) and were it not for what was then theoretical physics, you wouldn't be at a computer like the one you're at now.

[QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]

I would rather worry about the here and now than some machine that cant really do anything for me. Heres what can happen:

1: Nothing happens.

2: World ends.

3: Machine breaks.

4: We discover something amazing that has no practical benefits.

Can anyone answer this one question? What will this do to help humanity?

AirGuitarist87

1 - Perfectly possible. But I'm sure that £9 million wouldn't be spent on something that might not work.

Im pretty sure its in the BILLIONS, not millions.

2 - No. The machine doesn't produce nearly enough power to do even a tenth of what the media is hyping.

I dont think it will destroy the world, but who knows? They're trying to recreate what happened at the begining of the universe, who knows what that was like? For all we, or anybody, knows, the machine could turn the universe into a pile of dog crap.

3 - Nothing's perfect.

4 - We could discover dark matter, which in theory can be a new fuel source, or the Higg Boson which can explain the origins of our universe.

Can we reproduce Dark Matter? Can we harvest it? Who will control this? Can we build an engine or recator running on it? Is it toxic? Is it radioactive? Is it even real?

Ok, we discover the Higgs Boson. We know some stuff about the begining of the universe. Can this particle be used? From what I have heard about it, this particle will only exsist for billionths of billionths of a second. It cant realistically be used.

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]

I would rather worry about the here and now than some machine that cant really do anything for me. Heres what can happen:

1: Nothing happens.

2: World ends.

3: Machine breaks.

4: We discover something amazing that has no practical benefits.

Can anyone answer this one question? What will this do to help humanity?

GetEnTheKitchen

1 - Perfectly possible. But I'm sure that £9 million wouldn't be spent on something that might not work.

Im pretty sure its in the BILLIONS, not millions.

2 - No. The machine doesn't produce nearly enough power to do even a tenth of what the media is hyping.

I dont think it will destroy the world, but who knows? They're trying to recreate what happened at the begining of the universe, who knows what that was like? For all we, or anybody, knows, the machine could turn the universe into a pile of dog crap.

3 - Nothing's perfect.

4 - We could discover dark matter, which in theory can be a new fuel source, or the Higg Boson which can explain the origins of our universe.

Can we reproduce Dark Matter? Can we harvest it? Who will control this? Can we build an engine or recator running on it? Is it toxic? Is it radioactive? Is it even real?

Ok, we discover the Higgs Boson. We know some stuff about the begining of the universe. Can this particle be used? From what I have heard about it, this particle will only exsist for billionths of billionths of a second. It cant realistically be used.

"is dark matter toxic?"

lol

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]

I would rather worry about the here and now than some machine that cant really do anything for me. Heres what can happen:

1: Nothing happens.

2: World ends.

3: Machine breaks.

4: We discover something amazing that has no practical benefits.

Can anyone answer this one question? What will this do to help humanity?

GetEnTheKitchen

1 - Perfectly possible. But I'm sure that £9 million wouldn't be spent on something that might not work.

Im pretty sure its in the BILLIONS, not millions.

2 - No. The machine doesn't produce nearly enough power to do even a tenth of what the media is hyping.

I dont think it will destroy the world, but who knows? They're trying to recreate what happened at the begining of the universe, who knows what that was like? For all we, or anybody, knows, the machine could turn the universe into a pile of dog crap.

3 - Nothing's perfect.

4 - We could discover dark matter, which in theory can be a new fuel source, or the Higg Boson which can explain the origins of our universe.

Can we reproduce Dark Matter? Can we harvest it? Who will control this? Can we build an engine or recator running on it? Is it toxic? Is it radioactive? Is it even real?

Ok, we discover the Higgs Boson. We know some stuff about the begining of the universe. Can this particle be used? From what I have heard about it, this particle will only exsist for billionths of billionths of a second. It cant realistically be used.

Haha that's pretty neat. And apparently they are not afraid of the LHC, they're simply doing what hackers do best; proving they can hack into something. DeeJayInphinity

This, and for attention.

[QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"][QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]

I would rather worry about the here and now than some machine that cant really do anything for me. Heres what can happen:

1: Nothing happens.

2: World ends.

3: Machine breaks.

4: We discover something amazing that has no practical benefits.

Can anyone answer this one question? What will this do to help humanity?

H8sMikeMoore

1 - Perfectly possible. But I'm sure that £9 million wouldn't be spent on something that might not work.

Im pretty sure its in the BILLIONS, not millions.

2 - No. The machine doesn't produce nearly enough power to do even a tenth of what the media is hyping.

I dont think it will destroy the world, but who knows? They're trying to recreate what happened at the begining of the universe, who knows what that was like? For all we, or anybody, knows, the machine could turn the universe into a pile of dog crap.

3 - Nothing's perfect.

4 - We could discover dark matter, which in theory can be a new fuel source, or the Higg Boson which can explain the origins of our universe.

Can we reproduce Dark Matter? Can we harvest it? Who will control this? Can we build an engine or recator running on it? Is it toxic? Is it radioactive? Is it even real?

Ok, we discover the Higgs Boson. We know some stuff about the begining of the universe. Can this particle be used? From what I have heard about it, this particle will only exsist for billionths of billionths of a second. It cant realistically be used.

"is dark matter toxic?"

lol

Do you know what dark matter is? I thought so...

people seriouly think this thing will destroy the universe?? high energy protons have been colliding with each other for billions of years... and we're still here.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"][QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]

I would rather worry about the here and now than some machine that cant really do anything for me. Heres what can happen:

1: Nothing happens.

2: World ends.

3: Machine breaks.

4: We discover something amazing that has no practical benefits.

Can anyone answer this one question? What will this do to help humanity?

GetEnTheKitchen

1 - Perfectly possible. But I'm sure that £9 million wouldn't be spent on something that might not work.

Im pretty sure its in the BILLIONS, not millions.

2 - No. The machine doesn't produce nearly enough power to do even a tenth of what the media is hyping.

I dont think it will destroy the world, but who knows? They're trying to recreate what happened at the begining of the universe, who knows what that was like? For all we, or anybody, knows, the machine could turn the universe into a pile of dog crap.

3 - Nothing's perfect.

4 - We could discover dark matter, which in theory can be a new fuel source, or the Higg Boson which can explain the origins of our universe.

Can we reproduce Dark Matter? Can we harvest it? Who will control this? Can we build an engine or recator running on it? Is it toxic? Is it radioactive? Is it even real?

Ok, we discover the Higgs Boson. We know some stuff about the begining of the universe. Can this particle be used? From what I have heard about it, this particle will only exsist for billionths of billionths of a second. It cant realistically be used.

"is dark matter toxic?"

lol

Do you know what dark matter is? I thought so...

its matter that dosent interact with light. thats what the theory states at least.

[QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"][QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]

I would rather worry about the here and now than some machine that cant really do anything for me. Heres what can happen:

1: Nothing happens.

2: World ends.

3: Machine breaks.

4: We discover something amazing that has no practical benefits.

Can anyone answer this one question? What will this do to help humanity?

H8sMikeMoore

1 - Perfectly possible. But I'm sure that £9 million wouldn't be spent on something that might not work.

Im pretty sure its in the BILLIONS, not millions.

2 - No. The machine doesn't produce nearly enough power to do even a tenth of what the media is hyping.

I dont think it will destroy the world, but who knows? They're trying to recreate what happened at the begining of the universe, who knows what that was like? For all we, or anybody, knows, the machine could turn the universe into a pile of dog crap.

3 - Nothing's perfect.

4 - We could discover dark matter, which in theory can be a new fuel source, or the Higg Boson which can explain the origins of our universe.

Can we reproduce Dark Matter? Can we harvest it? Who will control this? Can we build an engine or recator running on it? Is it toxic? Is it radioactive? Is it even real?

Ok, we discover the Higgs Boson. We know some stuff about the begining of the universe. Can this particle be used? From what I have heard about it, this particle will only exsist for billionths of billionths of a second. It cant realistically be used.

"is dark matter toxic?"

lol

Do you know what dark matter is? I thought so...

its matter that dosent interact with light. thats what the theory states at least.

Its not even known if dark matter exists. I just dont see why people thing this machine is going to start producing huge amount of dark matter that we can pour into our gas tanks and get 1000 miles to the gallon with.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"][QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]

I would rather worry about the here and now than some machine that cant really do anything for me. Heres what can happen:

1: Nothing happens.

2: World ends.

3: Machine breaks.

4: We discover something amazing that has no practical benefits.

Can anyone answer this one question? What will this do to help humanity?

GetEnTheKitchen

1 - Perfectly possible. But I'm sure that £9 million wouldn't be spent on something that might not work.

Im pretty sure its in the BILLIONS, not millions.

2 - No. The machine doesn't produce nearly enough power to do even a tenth of what the media is hyping.

I dont think it will destroy the world, but who knows? They're trying to recreate what happened at the begining of the universe, who knows what that was like? For all we, or anybody, knows, the machine could turn the universe into a pile of dog crap.

3 - Nothing's perfect.

4 - We could discover dark matter, which in theory can be a new fuel source, or the Higg Boson which can explain the origins of our universe.

Can we reproduce Dark Matter? Can we harvest it? Who will control this? Can we build an engine or recator running on it? Is it toxic? Is it radioactive? Is it even real?

Ok, we discover the Higgs Boson. We know some stuff about the begining of the universe. Can this particle be used? From what I have heard about it, this particle will only exsist for billionths of billionths of a second. It cant realistically be used.

"is dark matter toxic?"

lol

Do you know what dark matter is? I thought so...

its matter that dosent interact with light. thats what the theory states at least.

Its not even known if dark matter exists. I just dont see why people thing this machine is going to start producing huge amount of dark matter that we can pour into our gas tanks and get 1000 miles to the gallon with.

i think the project is worth doing just to find out if dark matter exists in the first place

Its not even known if dark matter exists. I just dont see why people thing this machine is going to start producing huge amount of dark matter that we can pour into our gas tanks and get 1000 miles to the gallon with.

GetEnTheKitchen

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]I dont see why they have to spend billions just to smash to bits of matter together. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW ANYTHING! Even if they do, it will only explain to them some stuff they didnt know before. It cant be practically used to advance technology or anything.GetEnTheKitchen

The people working on it even say it might not reveal the "god particle" their looking for.

You know, McCain mightn't even win the election, why bother even trying to campaign in the first place? :roll:

Hey Ugg, hitting those pieces of flint together might not do anything at all, why even bother attempting to try it?

Mr. Edison, there's a chance your lightbulb might not even work, why are you wasting money trying to invent it?

You have some truly awful logic. You seem to think that they shouldn't bother with scientific research if it doesn't affect you personally in your lifetime, way to have a keen interest in the human race's advancement.

Im pretty sure its in the BILLIONS, not millions.

GetEnTheKitchen

I dont think it will destroy the world, but who knows? They're trying to recreate what happened at the begining of the universe, who knows what that was like?

GetEnTheKitchen

For all we, or anybody, knows, the machine could turn the universe into a pile of dog crap.

GetEnTheKitchen

Can we reproduce Dark Matter?

GetEnTheKitchen

Can we harvest it?

GetEnTheKitchen

Who will control this? GetEnTheKitchen

Can we build an engine or recator running on it?

GetEnTheKitchen

Is it toxic? Is it radioactive?GetEnTheKitchen

Is it even real?

GetEnTheKitchen

Ok, we discover the Higgs Boson. We know some stuff about the begining of the universe. Can this particle be used? From what I have heard about it, this particle will only exsist for billionths of billionths of a second. It cant realistically be used.

GetEnTheKitchen

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"][QUOTE="tocklestein2005"]

[QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]I dont see why they have to spend billions just to smash to bits of matter together. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW ANYTHING! Even if they do, it will only explain to them some stuff they didnt know before. It cant be practically used to advance technology or anything.GetEnTheKitchen

Totally correct! We should use all the money wasted by research to build more bombs, planes, guns, tanks, missiles, and bullets!

Atleast that would actually effect us. This is just a stunt. Its like proving that theirs water on some planet. Ok, theres water on it, what now?

If this was actually going to provide something benefical to humanity, you would see this all over the news, people would be excited. Guess what, no one cares about it.

I would rather worry about the here and now than some machine that cant really do anything for me. Heres what can happen:

1: Nothing happens.

2: World ends.

3: Machine breaks.

4: We discover something amazing that has no practical benefits.

Can anyone answer this one question? What will this do to help humanity?

Somehow I always manage to read that device name with the 'r' and 'd' rearranged.CptJSparrow

[QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]I dont see why they have to spend billions just to smash to bits of matter together. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW ANYTHING! Even if they do, it will only explain to them some stuff they didnt know before. It cant be practically used to advance technology or anything.ithilgore2006

The people working on it even say it might not reveal the "god particle" their looking for.

You know, McCain mightn't even win the election, why bother even trying to campaign in the first place? :roll:

Hey Ugg, hitting those pieces of flint together might not do anything at all, why even bother attempting to try it?

Mr. Edison, there's a chance your lightbulb might not even work, why are you wasting money trying to invent it?

You have some truly awful logic. You seem to think that they shouldn't bother with scientific research if it doesn't affect you personally in your lifetime, way to have a keen interest in the human race's advancement.

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]I dont see why they have to spend billions just to smash to bits of matter together. IT MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW ANYTHING! Even if they do, it will only explain to them some stuff they didnt know before. It cant be practically used to advance technology or anything.GetEnTheKitchen

The people working on it even say it might not reveal the "god particle" their looking for.

The God particle is not their sole purpose.

Its not even known if dark matter exists. I just dont see why people thing this machine is going to start producing huge amount of dark matter that we can pour into our gas tanks and get 1000 miles to the gallon with.

GetEnTheKitchen

[QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]

Its not even known if dark matter exists. I just dont see why people thing this machine is going to start producing huge amount of dark matter that we can pour into our gas tanks and get 1000 miles to the gallon with.

quiglythegreat

And proving water is on a planet proves that there's oxygen, which in turn proves there's at least bacterial lifeforms there.

AirGuitarist87

Wait...what?!

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]

I would rather worry about the here and now than some machine that cant really do anything for me. Heres what can happen:

1: Nothing happens.

2: World ends.

3: Machine breaks.

4: We discover something amazing that has no practical benefits.

Can anyone answer this one question? What will this do to help humanity?

GetEnTheKitchen

1 - Perfectly possible. But I'm sure that £9 million wouldn't be spent on something that might not work.

3 - Nothing's perfect.

4 - We could discover dark matter, which in theory can be a new fuel source, or the Higg Boson which can explain the origins of our universe.

Can we reproduce Dark Matter? Can we harvest it? Who will control this? Can we build an engine or recator running on it? Is it toxic? Is it radioactive? Is it even real?

Ok, we discover the Higgs Boson. We know some stuff about the begining of the universe. Can this particle be used? From what I have heard about it, this particle will only exsist for billionths of billionths of a second. It cant realistically be used.

Now look today all the benefits brought by oil!

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"]

And proving water is on a planet proves that there's oxygen, which in turn proves there's at least bacterial lifeforms there.

MrGeezer

Wait...what?!

Maybe bacteria wasn't the best example, but certainly microscopic organisms.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]

Its not even known if dark matter exists. I just dont see why people thing this machine is going to start producing huge amount of dark matter that we can pour into our gas tanks and get 1000 miles to the gallon with.

xaos

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"]

And proving water is on a planet proves that there's oxygen, which in turn proves there's at least bacterial lifeforms there.

AirGuitarist87

Wait...what?!

Maybe bacteria wasn't the best example, but certainly microscopic organisms.

And you are basing this on what, exactly?

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"]

And proving water is on a planet proves that there's oxygen, which in turn proves there's at least bacterial lifeforms there.

MrGeezer

Wait...what?!

Maybe bacteria wasn't the best example, but certainly microscopic organisms.

And you are basing this on what, exactly?

Water=H2O. H2= 2 parts hydrogen, O= 1 part oxygen. That means that if there's water somewhere, there must also be oxygen because you need oxygen to have water.

Comprende?

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"]

And proving water is on a planet proves that there's oxygen, which in turn proves there's at least bacterial lifeforms there.

DeathHeart95

Wait...what?!

Maybe bacteria wasn't the best example, but certainly microscopic organisms.

And you are basing this on what, exactly?

Water=H2O. H2= 2 parts hydrogen, O= 1 part oxygen. That means that if there's water somewhere, there must also be oxygen because you need oxygen to have water.

Comprende?

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"]

And proving water is on a planet proves that there's oxygen, which in turn proves there's at least bacterial lifeforms there.

DeathHeart95

Wait...what?!

Maybe bacteria wasn't the best example, but certainly microscopic organisms.

And you are basing this on what, exactly?

Water=H2O. H2= 2 parts hydrogen, O= 1 part oxygen. That means that if there's water somewhere, there must also be oxygen because you need oxygen to have water.

Comprende?

You do realize that that wasn't the only claim that you made, right?

[QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"][QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]

I would rather worry about the here and now than some machine that cant really do anything for me. Heres what can happen:

1: Nothing happens.

2: World ends.

3: Machine breaks.

4: We discover something amazing that has no practical benefits.

Can anyone answer this one question? What will this do to help humanity?

fanboy-buster

1 - Perfectly possible. But I'm sure that £9 million wouldn't be spent on something that might not work.

3 - Nothing's perfect.

4 - We could discover dark matter, which in theory can be a new fuel source, or the Higg Boson which can explain the origins of our universe.

Can we reproduce Dark Matter? Can we harvest it? Who will control this? Can we build an engine or recator running on it? Is it toxic? Is it radioactive? Is it even real?

Ok, we discover the Higgs Boson. We know some stuff about the begining of the universe. Can this particle be used? From what I have heard about it, this particle will only exsist for billionths of billionths of a second. It cant realistically be used.

Now look today all the benefits brought by oil!

The irony and sarcasm in your statement is very dry

You do realize that that wasn't the only claim that you made, right?

MrGeezer

Okay, let me explain. In nearly all the places on our earth where there is some form of water, there has been life reported. Everywhere from near underwater volcano's that reach boiling temperatures, to alaska where plants can grow in -20 degree temperatures with ice, to places where the water is highly acidic (water + acid) We have found life. So it's VERY likely that if there is somewhere in our universe where there is some for of water and a lot of it. It is very likely that would should find life there. Albiet only if the temperatures/conditions aren't too extreme.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

You do realize that that wasn't the only claim that you made, right?

munu9

Okay, let me explain. In nearly all the places on our earth where there is some form of water, there has been life reported. Everywhere from near underwater volcano's that reach boiling temperatures, to alaska where plants can grow in -20 degree temperatures with ice, to places where the water is highly acidic (water + acid) We have found life. So it's VERY likely that if there is somewhere in our universe where there is some for of water and a lot of it. It is very likely that would should find life there. Albiet only if the temperatures/conditions aren't too extreme.

That's life on ONE PLANET. As in, every living thing on earth IS RELATED. Life didn't arise from nonlife independently in every scenario, it EVOLVED to tolerate different conditions. :|

Okay...think of it like this. All sugar cookies contain sugar, correct? All over the world, every sugar cookie ever seen contains sugar (since by definition it's not a sugar cookie unless it has sugar in it). Now suppose that you're one day walking through a grocery store and you see lots of 5 pound bags of sugar neatly stacked on a shelf. Does it stand to reason that these bags of sugar must also have sugar cookies in them?