Hackers have mounted an attack on the Large Hadron Collider

  • 111 results
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for 194197844077667059316682358889
194197844077667059316682358889

49173

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#101 194197844077667059316682358889
Member since 2003 • 49173 Posts
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

You do realize that that wasn't the only claim that you made, right?

munu9

Okay, let me explain. In nearly all the places on our earth where there is some form of water, there has been life reported. Everywhere from near underwater volcano's that reach boiling temperatures, to alaska where plants can grow in -20 degree temperatures with ice, to places where the water is highly acidic (water + acid) We have found life. So it's VERY likely that if there is somewhere in our universe where there is some for of water and a lot of it. It is very likely that would should find life there. Albiet only if the temperatures/conditions aren't too extreme.

That's a wild assertion to make with only 1 data point (Earth) to base it on. It's kind of like claiming that your deodorant keeps lions away and using the fact that you've never been attacked by a lion (presumably) as proof.
Avatar image for leejohnson7
leejohnson7

2909

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#102 leejohnson7
Member since 2007 • 2909 Posts

the stupidity of these people might cost humanity's advancement dearlyWizz46

The way I see it, it will be a matter of time before you need a liscence to go on computing courses/own a computer etc. These people are scum imo. If my goal in life was to be counter-productive I would rethink that goal....

Avatar image for GetEnTheKitchen
GetEnTheKitchen

192

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#103 GetEnTheKitchen
Member since 2008 • 192 Posts
[QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"][QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]

I would rather worry about the here and now than some machine that cant really do anything for me. Heres what can happen:

1: Nothing happens.

2: World ends.

3: Machine breaks.

4: We discover something amazing that has no practical benefits.

Can anyone answer this one question? What will this do to help humanity?

fanboy-buster

1 - Perfectly possible. But I'm sure that £9 million wouldn't be spent on something that might not work.


3 - Nothing's perfect.

4 - We could discover dark matter, which in theory can be a new fuel source, or the Higg Boson which can explain the origins of our universe.

Can we reproduce Dark Matter? Can we harvest it? Who will control this? Can we build an engine or recator running on it? Is it toxic? Is it radioactive? Is it even real?

Ok, we discover the Higgs Boson. We know some stuff about the begining of the universe. Can this particle be used? From what I have heard about it, this particle will only exsist for billionths of billionths of a second. It cant realistically be used.

Imagine you are a long time ago and scientists wasted $100 million dollars (hypotethically) to make a big drill in order to see what is inside of our Planet. A new compound is discovered oil. People were skeptic, like you making those questions of "is it toxic?" "can we harvest it?".

Now look today all the benefits brought by oil!

But we knew oil existed in the first place.

Avatar image for leejohnson7
leejohnson7

2909

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#104 leejohnson7
Member since 2007 • 2909 Posts
Well... whatever this machine does, remember that success is 99% failure.
Avatar image for 194197844077667059316682358889
194197844077667059316682358889

49173

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#105 194197844077667059316682358889
Member since 2003 • 49173 Posts
[QUOTE="fanboy-buster"][QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"][QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="GetEnTheKitchen"]

I would rather worry about the here and now than some machine that cant really do anything for me. Heres what can happen:

1: Nothing happens.

2: World ends.

3: Machine breaks.

4: We discover something amazing that has no practical benefits.

Can anyone answer this one question? What will this do to help humanity?

GetEnTheKitchen

1 - Perfectly possible. But I'm sure that £9 million wouldn't be spent on something that might not work.


3 - Nothing's perfect.

4 - We could discover dark matter, which in theory can be a new fuel source, or the Higg Boson which can explain the origins of our universe.

Can we reproduce Dark Matter? Can we harvest it? Who will control this? Can we build an engine or recator running on it? Is it toxic? Is it radioactive? Is it even real?

Ok, we discover the Higgs Boson. We know some stuff about the begining of the universe. Can this particle be used? From what I have heard about it, this particle will only exsist for billionths of billionths of a second. It cant realistically be used.

Imagine you are a long time ago and scientists wasted $100 million dollars (hypotethically) to make a big drill in order to see what is inside of our Planet. A new compound is discovered oil. People were skeptic, like you making those questions of "is it toxic?" "can we harvest it?".

Now look today all the benefits brought by oil!

But we knew oil existed in the first place.

The circularity of your thinking is dizzying...
Avatar image for CheeseGuardian
CheeseGuardian

395

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#106 CheeseGuardian
Member since 2005 • 395 Posts

Umm... why the hell is the LHC connected to the internet???

Wouldn't it be 10x smarter to use a closed network?

Avatar image for MrGeezer
MrGeezer

59765

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#107 MrGeezer
Member since 2002 • 59765 Posts
[QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

You do realize that that wasn't the only claim that you made, right?

xaos

Okay, let me explain. In nearly all the places on our earth where there is some form of water, there has been life reported. Everywhere from near underwater volcano's that reach boiling temperatures, to alaska where plants can grow in -20 degree temperatures with ice, to places where the water is highly acidic (water + acid) We have found life. So it's VERY likely that if there is somewhere in our universe where there is some for of water and a lot of it. It is very likely that would should find life there. Albiet only if the temperatures/conditions aren't too extreme.

That's a wild assertion to make with only 1 data point (Earth) to base it on. It's kind of like claiming that your deodorant keeps lions away and using the fact that you've never been attacked by a lion (presumably) as proof.

His error is in thinking that Earth is MORE than one data point. It's a fair mistake to make, but he failed to take into account that life actually SPREADS over the planet. So rather than there being thousands of data points all over the earth, one really does have to take the Earth as a single data point.

Avatar image for leejohnson7
leejohnson7

2909

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#108 leejohnson7
Member since 2007 • 2909 Posts

Umm... why the hell is the LHC connected to the internet???

Wouldn't it be 10x smarter to use a closed network?

CheeseGuardian

lol... These smart people are looking very dumb right about now.

I would have liked them to build it around the planet. Would take an awesome amount of power to run though.

Avatar image for SimpJee
SimpJee

18309

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#109 SimpJee
Member since 2002 • 18309 Posts

It's only connected to a machine that records results, not something that controls the LHC itself.

Wish there was a group of hackers that would own these fools, Greek Secuirity Team ... :lol:

Avatar image for tfpcgmr
tfpcgmr

164

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#110 tfpcgmr
Member since 2008 • 164 Posts
I hope this worlds dies as soon as possible.
Avatar image for 194197844077667059316682358889
194197844077667059316682358889

49173

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#111 194197844077667059316682358889
Member since 2003 • 49173 Posts
I hope this worlds dies as soon as possible.tfpcgmr
Don't worry, life isn't so bad once you are no longer 15 and utterly self-absorbed