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#1 moneymatterz
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Anyone else feel like the constant media coverage of the crisis in Haiti is nothing more than a big distraction? This is/has been the top headline for a while now. No one cared about Haiti before the earthquake, and in a few weeks things revert to business as usual.

Additionally, I feel it is nothing more than a golden opportunity in the eyes of politicians, community organizers, and corporations to earn some good publicity points by appearing 'compassionate' and falsely pledging their unyielding support. It's just a big spectacle that will have little effect beyond the scope of Haiti. This media blitz is not going to convince our enemies and other state sponsors of terrorism that we really aren't all that bad.

Behind the scenes, we have: (1) the election in Massachusetts for U.S. Senator, (2) Healthcare bill almost signed into law,, (3) State of the Union, and, of course, (5) the job market and the economy as a whole. And those are just off the top of my head. Let's focus more on some domestic priorities.

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#2 rawsavon
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Oh no TC...Oh no....just stop...please
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I think that people actually care, and an already poor country was hit with a earthquake, kids cant eat, hospitals are gone, and us being one of the most advanced country's are being called upon to help them. Food, Water, whatever we can do... So to anwser your question, NO -- I think the more publicity the better -- This is one of the most insensitive ridiculous things I have ever seen a person on here say.
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#4 weezyfb
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no. half a million people died....its no distraction
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#5 F1_2004
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election for a senator is definitely more important than 200,000 dead people
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#6 jakarai
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Many of the other countries already know the US government hit Haiti with the earthquake so I doubt this will change our image in the world view. There is a war that is about to begin...
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#7 moneymatterz
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Some of what I said may be insensitive, but the core of my message remains true. Did anybody care about Haiti a month ago? Will they still care about Haiti in 3 months? I suspect the answer to both is 'no.'

The image of the United States will remain the same after this is all said and done, so I don't see the point in the constant media coverage. This publicity will not change the world's perception. It's not like we're even trading partners with Haiti. So why all the attention? Because it is a distraction.

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#8 GabuEx
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If the election of a senator is more important to you than 500,000 people dead and 3,000,000 people rendered homeless, then - no offense - I think you might have your priorities a little off...

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#9 Gaming-Planet
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I never knew about Haiti until the Earthquake occured.

Some people believe that the government used H.A.A.R.P. to cause an earthquake since there is one not too far from it.

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#10 Samurai_Xavier
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So you are suggesting the U.S. should just let the Haitians die? Yeah, that will help its image.

You know, people actually care. This is 100 times the number of deaths of 9/11. Think about that.

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no. half a million people died....its no distractionweezyfb

Half a million? Last time I saw news they predicted 100,000 dead. Is that true?

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#13 TheMightyHoov
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Some of what I said may be insensitive, but the core of my message remains true. Did anybody care about Haiti a month ago? Will they still care about Haiti in 3 months? I suspect the answer to both is 'no.'

The image of the United States will remain the same after this is all said and done, so I don't see the point in the constant media coverage. This publicity will not change the world's perception. It's not like we're even trading partners with Haiti. So why all the attention? Because it is a distraction.

moneymatterz

I see what your saying. Haiti was already an impoverished nation before this and no one was really helping then, but regardless they do need help right now.

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[QUOTE="weezyfb"]no. half a million people died....its no distractionTheMightyHoov

Half a million? Last time I saw news they predicted 100,000 dead. Is that true?

It hasn't officially reached 100,000. But they are almost sure it will. Sigh.. to think that each and every one of those 100,000 was a person with and entire life..
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Anyone else feel like the constant media coverage of the crisis in Haiti is nothing more than a big distraction? This is/has been the top headline for a while now. No one cared about Haiti before the earthquake, and in a few weeks things revert to business as usual.

Additionally, I feel it is nothing more than a golden opportunity in the eyes of politicians, community organizers, and corporations to earn some good publicity points by appearing 'compassionate' and falsely pledging their unyielding support. It's just a big spectacle that will have little effect beyond the scope of Haiti. This media blitz is not going to convince our enemies and other state sponsors of terrorism that we really aren't all that bad.

Behind the scenes, we have: (1) the election in Massachusetts for U.S. Senator, (2) Healthcare bill almost signed into law,, (3) State of the Union, and, of course, (5) the job market and the economy as a whole. And those are just off the top of my head. Let's focus more on some domestic priorities.

moneymatterz

Dude, unless you're trying to imply that they CAUSED the earthquake just to appear compassionate, then you need to end this train of thought NOW.

What, would it be better to IGNORE the situation just in order to convince the fringe nutjobs that they AREN'T trying to use it to their advantage?

Bottom line is that it happened. I happened, it was horrible, and the USA is in a position to provide some kind of aid. So that's what the USA is doing. Hate Bush all you like, but the Bush administration provided aid when that bigass tsunami struck the Indian ocean. What, did the Bush administration cause that too, just in order to look good by providing aid?

It's not a DISTRACTION unless you are saying that the Obama administration CAUSED IT. And if that's what you're saying, then please show me some evidence of Obama's Earthquake Machines.

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[QUOTE="weezyfb"]no. half a million people died....its no distractionTheMightyHoov

Half a million? Last time I saw news they predicted 100,000 dead. Is that true?

Well, estimates vary (checking it again, it seems to be around 100,000-200,000, not 500,000)... but the one thing they don't vary on is the idea that the aftermath of the earthquake is one of really destruction that is really quite difficult to comprehend. It would basically be as if the entire city of Chicago were levelled; that's how many people have been hit by it.

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#17 moneymatterz
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So you are suggesting the U.S. should just let the Haitians die? Yeah, that will help its image.

You know, people actually care. This is 100 times the number of deaths of 9/11. Think about that.

Samurai_Xavier

First of all, the United States is only obligated to protect the interests of the United States and its allies. The only interest in Haiti is publicity. That's it. It's not a democratic nation, we don't buy anything from them, and the collapse of the Haitian government is not vital to international peace and stability.

Secondly, you misinterpreted the core of my message. At no point did I say the U.S. should not help in some capacity. However, it is not necessary for the media to be constantly reporting about Haiti 24/7. It really is not that big of a deal. It's just an unfortunate event that is distracting everyone from where their priorities should lie.

Attack my character all you want, but that will do nothing. Millions die every day. Where is the publicity for those people?

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#18 RmanForLife
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I do think the media does have a responsibility to still cover other important information/events going on. I'm not downplaying the events in Haiti at all, nor am I saying the situation doesn't deserve media coverage, but keeping the public aware of other major events that effect their lives should be important as well.

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#19 clyde46
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There was an earthquake in Haiti?

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#20 GabuEx
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It really is not that big of a deal. It's just an unfortunate event that is distracting everyone from where their priorities should lie.

moneymatterz

Mental exercise time: if an earthquake destroyed Chicago, leaving 200,000 Americans dead and 3,000,000 homeless, would that be "not that big a deal"?

If not, then in what way does their status as Haitians change anything?

And if so, well... I don't know what to say to that.

Millions die every day. Where is the publicity for those people?

moneymatterz

I wish there were publicity for those people. But two wrongs do not make a right.

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#21 moneymatterz
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[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

Anyone else feel like the constant media coverage of the crisis in Haiti is nothing more than a big distraction? This is/has been the top headline for a while now. No one cared about Haiti before the earthquake, and in a few weeks things revert to business as usual.

Additionally, I feel it is nothing more than a golden opportunity in the eyes of politicians, community organizers, and corporations to earn some good publicity points by appearing 'compassionate' and falsely pledging their unyielding support. It's just a big spectacle that will have little effect beyond the scope of Haiti. This media blitz is not going to convince our enemies and other state sponsors of terrorism that we really aren't all that bad.

Behind the scenes, we have: (1) the election in Massachusetts for U.S. Senator, (2) Healthcare bill almost signed into law,, (3) State of the Union, and, of course, (5) the job market and the economy as a whole. And those are just off the top of my head. Let's focus more on some domestic priorities.

MrGeezer

Dude, unless you're trying to imply that they CAUSED the earthquake just to appear compassionate, then you need to end this train of thought NOW.

What, would it be better to IGNORE the situation just in order to convince the fringe nutjobs that they AREN'T trying to use it to their advantage?

Bottom line is that it happened. I happened, it was horrible, and the USA is in a position to provide some kind of aid. So that's what the USA is doing. Hate Bush all you like, but the Bush administration provided aid when that bigass tsunami struck the Indian ocean. What, did the Bush administration cause that too, just in order to look good by providing aid?

It's not a DISTRACTION unless you are saying that the Obama administration CAUSED IT. And if that's what you're saying, then please show me some evidence of Obama's Earthquake Machines.

I gotta be honest here and ask you: what the hell are you smoking? I don't know where all this "USA caused the earthquake" and "Bush this, Bush that" came from, but that is just stupid.

Point is....the level of attention being given to Haiti is just a spectacle.

Please leave this thread. You're clearly flame-baiting.

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You're absolutely right. I think they should just focus more on Tiger Woods and Michael Jackson, the real important stuff.

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#23 moneymatterz
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I do think the media does have a responsibility to still cover other important information/events going on. I'm not downplaying the events in Haiti at all, nor am I saying the situation doesn't deserve media coverage, but keeping the public aware of other major events that effect their lives should be important as well.

RmanForLife

You totally hit the nail on the head. Seriously.

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#24 TheMightyHoov
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You're absolutely right. I think they should just focus more on Tiger Woods and Michael Jackson, the real important stuff.

Assassin1349

I know right! I would love to know whats happening with them right now!

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#25 MrGeezer
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You're absolutely right. I think they should just focus more on Tiger Woods and Michael Jackson, the real important stuff.

Assassin1349

Yeah, apparently the Obama administration made "the media" focus on that too, as a way of "distracting" us from things that are "important".

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#26 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="RmanForLife"]

I do think the media does have a responsibility to still cover other important information/events going on. I'm not downplaying the events in Haiti at all, nor am I saying the situation doesn't deserve media coverage, but keeping the public aware of other major events that effect their lives should be important as well.

moneymatterz

You totally hit the nail on the head. Seriously.

And "the media" can cover whatever they ****ing feel like covering.

How does this have anything to do with the Obama administration?

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Last I checked, CNN was the only channel giving 24/7 coverage of the situation in Haiti. Fox News and HLN have been covering other things besides Haiti.

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#28 TheMightyHoov
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[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

[QUOTE="RmanForLife"]

I do think the media does have a responsibility to still cover other important information/events going on. I'm not downplaying the events in Haiti at all, nor am I saying the situation doesn't deserve media coverage, but keeping the public aware of other major events that effect their lives should be important as well.

MrGeezer

You totally hit the nail on the head. Seriously.

And "the media" can cover whatever they ****ing feel like covering.

How does this have anything to do with the Obama administration?

Where is everyone getting the "Obama" and "Bush" stuff from???

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[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

[QUOTE="RmanForLife"]

I do think the media does have a responsibility to still cover other important information/events going on. I'm not downplaying the events in Haiti at all, nor am I saying the situation doesn't deserve media coverage, but keeping the public aware of other major events that effect their lives should be important as well.

MrGeezer

You totally hit the nail on the head. Seriously.

And "the media" can cover whatever they ****ing feel like covering.

How does this have anything to do with the Obama administration?

Again, Geezer, I ask: what the hell are you smoking? No one is talking about the president, except you. Please leave the thread.

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#30 MrGeezer
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Again, Geezer, I ask: what the hell are you smoking? No one is talking about the president, except you. Please leave the thread.

moneymatterz

Bull****.

If this is just "a distraction", from the USA's CURRENT problems, then that ABSOLUTELY has to do with the current administration.

Don't pretend like you don't realize this, because that's precisely why you started this topic in the first place.

If it was to DISTRACT us from current problems, then that DOES have to do with the current administration. Because if the DISTRACTION is a solution to CURRENT problems, then it DOES have to do with any problems in the current administratrion.

And if it's NOT all poliotics, a way of making US politicians loom good, then why did it take this disaster to get Haiti widely covered in "the media"? It's not even as if Haiti hasn't had problems. If the USA merely wanted to "distract" Americans from domestic problems by focusing on Haiti, then why wait until NOW?

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#31 moneymatterz
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[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

It really is not that big of a deal. It's just an unfortunate event that is distracting everyone from where their priorities should lie.

GabuEx

Mental exercise time: if an earthquake destroyed Chicago, leaving 200,000 Americans dead and 3,000,000 homeless, would that be "not that big a deal"?

If not, then in what way does their status as Haitians change anything?

And if so, well... I don't know what to say to that.

Millions die every day. Where is the publicity for those people?

moneymatterz

I wish there were publicity for those people. But two wrongs do not make a right.

I don't see the connection.

Devastation in Chicago would effect the infrastructure of the USA. Not to mention, among the vast majority of the dead would be American citizens.

Devastation in Haiti is nothing more than a public-relations wet dream. Again: not a democratic nation, not vital to international peace and stability in the region, and not trading partners with the USA.

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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

Mental exercise time: if an earthquake destroyed Chicago, leaving 200,000 Americans dead and 3,000,000 homeless, would that be "not that big a deal"?

If not, then in what way does their status as Haitians change anything?

And if so, well... I don't know what to say to that.

[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

Millions die every day. Where is the publicity for those people?

moneymatterz

I wish there were publicity for those people. But two wrongs do not make a right.

I don't see the connection.

Devastation in Chicago would effect the infrastructure of the USA. Not to mention, among the vast majority of the dead would be American citizens.

Devastation in Haiti is nothing more than a public-relations wet dream. Again: not a democratic nation, not vital to international peace and stability in the region, and not trading partners with the USA.

Wow that's one of the most inhumane things I think I've read in awhile. Sure devastation in Chicago would have a more direct affect on us as a country, but you suggest that since they are not American, they're lives are less valuable than ours. The mere fact that this is a horribly impoverished nation to begin with means they need our full help now more than ever.

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#33 GabuEx
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I don't see the connection.

Devastation in Chicago would effect the infrastructure of the USA. Not to mention, among the vast majority of the dead would be American citizens.

Devastation in Haiti is nothing more than a public-relations wet dream. Again: not a democratic nation, not vital to international peace and stability in the region, and not trading partners with the USA.

moneymatterz

You don't see the connection between 200,000 people dying and 3,000,000 people being left homeless in Haiti, and 200,000 people dying and 3,000,000 people being left homeless in America?

No offense, but... really?

What I'm getting from this is that you are asserting that human life is not important unless it is:

- American; or

- Economically contributive.

Is this... really what you're saying?

Bull****.

If this is just "a distraction", from the USA's CURRENT problems, then that ABSOLUTELY has to do with the current administration.

Don't pretend like you don't realize this, because that's precisely why you started this topic in the first place.

If it was to DISTRACT us from current problems, then that DOES have to do with the current administration. Because if the DISTRACTION is a solution to CURRENT problems, then it DOES have to do with any problems in the current administratrion.

And if it's NOT all poliotics, a way of making US politicians loom good, then why did it take this disaster to get Haiti widely covered in "the media"? It's not even as if Haiti hasn't had problems. If the USA merely wanted to "distract" Americans from domestic problems by focusing on Haiti, then why wait until NOW?

MrGeezer

Er, I don't think he's asserting that those benefitting from the Haiti crisis are the ones making the "distraction". I think you've misread what he's saying.

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#34 MrGeezer
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Er, I don't think he's asserting that those benefitting from the Haiti crisis are the ones making the "distraction". I think you've misread what he's saying.

GabuEx

He's saying that media coverage is the distraction. In which case it's irrelevant whether or not the current administration caused THE EARTHQUAKE.

He's still implying the current administration's control over the media, which still leads to the conclusion that they could have distracted the USA population from domestic problems any time they damn well felt like it. IF this is a distraction, then why wait until NOW to distract us with the Haiti situation?

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#35 theone86
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I think statements like that say more about the person making them than about the rest of society. Sure, news coverage is selective, but I presonally take the time to seek out stories that not all networksand newspapers will run, I keep current on the issues like health care (by the way, at this point just about everything that can be said has and there's nothing more to the issue until they actually vote on the bill, after that I garuntee there will be media scrutiny on the issue, and election season is just getting underway, most races in my area haven't had too many debates as of yet and the vote isn't for the better part of a year). My point is that it doesn't take that much effort to keep current on ongoing stories AND keep up with a tragedy like Haiti, using the media there is really just an excuse.

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[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

Anyone else feel like the constant media coverage of the crisis in Haiti is nothing more than a big distraction? This is/has been the top headline for a while now. No one cared about Haiti before the earthquake, and in a few weeks things revert to business as usual.

Additionally, I feel it is nothing more than a golden opportunity in the eyes of politicians, community organizers, and corporations to earn some good publicity points by appearing 'compassionate' and falsely pledging their unyielding support. It's just a big spectacle that will have little effect beyond the scope of Haiti. This media blitz is not going to convince our enemies and other state sponsors of terrorism that we really aren't all that bad.

Behind the scenes, we have: (1) the election in Massachusetts for U.S. Senator, (2) Healthcare bill almost signed into law,, (3) State of the Union, and, of course, (5) the job market and the economy as a whole. And those are just off the top of my head. Let's focus more on some domestic priorities.

MrGeezer

Dude, unless you're trying to imply that they CAUSED the earthquake just to appear compassionate, then you need to end this train of thought NOW.

What, would it be better to IGNORE the situation just in order to convince the fringe nutjobs that they AREN'T trying to use it to their advantage?

Bottom line is that it happened. I happened, it was horrible, and the USA is in a position to provide some kind of aid. So that's what the USA is doing. Hate Bush all you like, but the Bush administration provided aid when that bigass tsunami struck the Indian ocean. What, did the Bush administration cause that too, just in order to look good by providing aid?

It's not a DISTRACTION unless you are saying that the Obama administration CAUSED IT. And if that's what you're saying, then please show me some evidence of Obama's Earthquake Machines.

Google Haiti Haarp 2010.
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#37 jakarai
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[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

So you are suggesting the U.S. should just let the Haitians die? Yeah, that will help its image.

You know, people actually care. This is 100 times the number of deaths of 9/11. Think about that.

moneymatterz

First of all, the United States is only obligated to protect the interests of the United States and its allies. The only interest in Haiti is publicity. That's it. It's not a democratic nation, we don't buy anything from them, and the collapse of the Haitian government is not vital to international peace and stability.

Secondly, you misinterpreted the core of my message. At no point did I say the U.S. should not help in some capacity. However, it is not necessary for the media to be constantly reporting about Haiti 24/7. It really is not that big of a deal. It's just an unfortunate event that is distracting everyone from where their priorities should lie.

Attack my character all you want, but that will do nothing. Millions die every day. Where is the publicity for those people?

They will use it as a drop off point for the Russians and Chinese when they launch an assault on the US.
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#38 moneymatterz
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[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

I don't see the connection.

Devastation in Chicago would effect the infrastructure of the USA. Not to mention, among the vast majority of the dead would be American citizens.

Devastation in Haiti is nothing more than a public-relations wet dream. Again: not a democratic nation, not vital to international peace and stability in the region, and not trading partners with the USA.

GabuEx

You don't see the connection between 200,000 people dying and 3,000,000 people being left homeless in Haiti, and 200,000 people dying and 3,000,000 people being left homeless in America?

No offense, but... really?

What I'm getting from this is that you are asserting that human life is not important unless it is:

- American; or

- Economically contributive.

Is this... really what you're saying?

I don't see the connection between 24/7 headline media coverage of Haiti and what would most certainly be the case if the same were to happen in Chicago.

Their place on the world stage and foreign relationship with the United States does not justify it for the reasons mentioned earlier.

And if you do not believe that this is a public-relations wet dream, then you're not looking hard enough at all this media attention. Just read the headlines: "Obama pledges full suport"...."Hilary Clinton says we're in it for the long-term"...."U.S. takes the lead in providing aid to Haiti"....

Digging a little deeper, we find quotes within the articles.......

"CNN Correspondent Ivan Watson and photojournalist Dominic Swann, climbed up into the crevice that trapped Anaika, and brought her water and granola bars."

"Volunteers gave Anaika a pair of glasses to protect her eyes from the dirt."

"Secretary of State Hillary Clinton presented a united stance with Haitian President Rene Preval during her visit Saturday to the quake-battered capital. Clinton, the highest-ranking U.S. official to visit the country since Tuesday's 7.0-magnitude quake, sought to assure the Haitian people that the United States is working with the government "to assist in every way we can."

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#39 Ghost_702
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Honestly, it's our duty as one of the most powerful nations in the world to help out others in need. Places that just spontaneously get destroyed overnight need aid as quickly as possible. It's human compassion that drives countries to help out others in need, not media coverage.
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#40 theone86
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Er, I don't think he's asserting that those benefitting from the Haiti crisis are the ones making the "distraction". I think you've misread what he's saying.

MrGeezer

He's saying that media coverage is the distraction. In which case it's irrelevant whether or not the current administration caused THE EARTHQUAKE.

He's still implying the current administration's control over the media, which still leads to the conclusion that they could have distracted the USA population from domestic problems any time they damn well felt like it. IF this is a distraction, then why wait until NOW to distract us with the Haiti situation?

LOL, yeah, the White House is dictating to media outlets how much time to spend on this story. Face it, this country has way too free of a press and journalistic tradition for them to all fall in line with what the White House wants. Why are they covering it so much? One, there's an incredible loss of life in terms of numbers, two many people and organizations had vested intrests in Haiti whether it be missionaries or relatives, and three because it's probably drawing a lot of viewers. You can blame the media, but maybe in this case it's the people who only tune in when there's a tragedy that should take some of the blame as well.

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#41 theone86
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

I don't see the connection.

Devastation in Chicago would effect the infrastructure of the USA. Not to mention, among the vast majority of the dead would be American citizens.

Devastation in Haiti is nothing more than a public-relations wet dream. Again: not a democratic nation, not vital to international peace and stability in the region, and not trading partners with the USA.

moneymatterz

You don't see the connection between 200,000 people dying and 3,000,000 people being left homeless in Haiti, and 200,000 people dying and 3,000,000 people being left homeless in America?

No offense, but... really?

What I'm getting from this is that you are asserting that human life is not important unless it is:

- American; or

- Economically contributive.

Is this... really what you're saying?

I don't see the connection between 24/7 headline media coverage of Haiti and what would most certainly be the case if the same were to happen in Chicago.

Their place on the world stage and foreign relationship with the United States does not justify it for the reasons mentioned earlier.

And if you do not believe that this is a public-relations wet dream, then you're not looking hard enough at all this media attention. Just read the headlines: "Obama pledges full suport"...."Hilary Clinton says we're in it for the long-term"...."U.S. takes the lead in providing aid to Haiti"....

Digging a little deeper, we find quotes within the articles.......

"CNN Correspondent Ivan Watson and photojournalist Dominic Swann, climbed up into the crevice that trapped Anaika, and brought her water and granola bars."

"Volunteers gave Anaika a pair of glasses to protect her eyes from the dirt."

"Secretary of State Hillary Clinton presented a united stance with Haitian President Rene Preval during her visit Saturday to the quake-battered capital. Clinton, the highest-ranking U.S. official to visit the country since Tuesday's 7.0-magnitude quake, sought to assure the Haitian people that the United States is working with the government "to assist in every way we can."

Yeah, let's villify those who volunteer their time, money, and support to others in need! That's what we need to get this society back on the right track!

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#42 moneymatterz
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Yeah, let's villify those who volunteer their time, money, and support to others in need! That's what we need to get this society back on the right track!

theone86

Yes...let us do just that. The greater purpose of this entire Haiti operation is publicity. Plain and simple. And 24/7 coverage is distracting everyone from other important domestic news. Foreign entities are not crafting their headlines to read "USA is the best because they are helping poor Haitians" so the scope of our efforts are limited to our own little world....and it is distracting from everything else.

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#44 theone86
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

Yeah, let's villify those who volunteer their time, money, and support to others in need! That's what we need to get this society back on the right track!

moneymatterz

Yes...let us do just that. The greater purpose of this entire Haiti operation is publicity. Plain and simple. And 24/7 coverage is distracting everyone from other important domestic news. Foreign entities are not crafting their headlines to read "USA is the best because they are helping poor Haitians" so the scope of our efforts are limited to our own little world....and it is distracting from everything else.

People allow themselves to be distracted, like I said earlier it's not hard for anyone who shows any semblance of effort to keep up with Haiti AND the rest of the issues going on. They could, I dunno, read a newspaper, those thing run more than one story a day you know. Or they could, hmmmm...let's see, watch a news broadcast, they also run more than one story per day. Maybe news stations are dedicating more coverage to Haiti, but they still cover all the important stories.

As for it being publicity, I'm not saying they don't use this as publicity but one, did you ever stop to think that they're trying to use their celebrity to spur others to action? And two, to say that the entire purpose is publicity is ludacris. You're villifying people who are trying to help other people that are in real crisis, I simply can't think of anything more objectionable than that.

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#45 linkthewindow
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Yes...let us do just that. The greater purpose of this entire Haiti operation is publicity. Plain and simple. And 24/7 coverage is distracting everyone from other important domestic news. Foreign entities are not crafting their headlines to read "USA is the best because they are helping poor Haitians" so the scope of our efforts are limited to our own little world....and it is distracting from everything else.moneymatterz
I love the way you think: "Hey Obama, there's been an earthquake in Haiti. Why don't we help out?" "Nah, not worth the effort, tbh." "But just think of all the PUBLICITY you'll get!" *obama pledges a couple of million*
Foreign entities are not crafting their headlines to read "USA is the best because they are helping poor Haitians" so the scope of our efforts are limited to our own little world.moneymatterz
So? Imagine what the international response would be if the USA did nothing and forced the rest of the world to shoulder the burden (it's happend before, China and Cambodia say hello.) That said, the USA can't be the only nation blamed. The Western World is very good at ignoring the suffering of other countries.
You're villifying people who are trying to help other people that are in real crisis, I simply can't think of anything more objectionable than that.theone86
I agree completly.
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Behind the scenes, we have: (1) the election in Massachusetts for U.S. Senator, (2) Healthcare bill almost signed into law,, (3) State of the Union, and, of course, (5) the job market and the economy as a whole. And those are just off the top of my head. Let's focus more on some domestic priorities.

moneymatterz
Because as a whole, the human race isn't as selfish as it makes itself out to be. Millions of people worldwide are helping in whatever ways they can to help the families of the 200,000 killed and the countless more made homeless. Coming from the north of England I can safely say no-one here gives a flying **** at a rolling doughnut who's elected in Massachusetts. I wouldn't even be able to point out where that is on a map. :?
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#47 moneymatterz
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As for it being publicity, I'm not saying they don't use this as publicity but one, did you ever stop to think that they're trying to use their celebrity to spur others to action?

theone86

If we're only talking about celebrities, politicians, corporations, and community organizers......then yes...... They are using their celebrity so that they can appear compassionate. Who cares about whoever else is spurred to act? It's all an effort to increase their own publicity.

And two, to say that the entire purpose is publicity is ludacris.

theone86

Entire purpose? No. Main purpose? Yes.

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#48 ASRCSR
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If the election of a senator is more important to you than 500,000 people dead and 3,000,000 people rendered homeless, then - no offense - I think you might have your priorities a little off...

GabuEx

A little?

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#49 theone86
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

As for it being publicity, I'm not saying they don't use this as publicity but one, did you ever stop to think that they're trying to use their celebrity to spur others to action?

moneymatterz

If we're only talking about celebrities, politicians, corporations, and community organizers......then yes...... They are using their celebrity so that they can appear compassionate. Who cares about whoever else is spurred to act? It's all an effort to increase their own publicity.

And two, to say that the entire purpose is publicity is ludacris.

theone86

Entire purpose? No. Main purpose? Yes.

What, so as soon as someone becomes a celebrity/politician they suddenly stop caring about everything but themselves? There's no possible way they could be trying to generate support for a good cause?

And no, that's not the main purpose, the main purpose is to generate funds for the victims of a natural disaster. If people wanted to use a charity to appear sympathetic there's a thousand different charities they could use that don't require the loss of life to be needed.

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#50 hodges_3_5
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Please stop fighting with this guy, he's clearly delusional.