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#101 deactivated-5d1cb98d088e5
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Why worry. If your belief is strong then you shouldn't care what I say. I come on here and see many offensive things, and I take it in stride because I know some people roll a different way, and I can't do anything about it. I don't see why my post should be any different, I mean we're all mature adults here, I can take your beliefs, I hope you can take mine.

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haha nah, you cant take my beliefs son (; you havent the slightest clue what they are, so how can you say with confidence that you can take them

and that right there is a painfully obvious logical fallacy, just sayin

I guess my OP was easily misinterpreted. If it offended you then I'm sorry. Anyway I'm not going to ask what you believe because the way you make it out I don't think my innocent mind could take it.:P

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#102 DavidianMH
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I can't say it has, however I always find it interesting to learn from others about their religious beliefs, whether I agree with them or not.
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#103 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Perhaps he's saying he's tolerant of others having their own beliefs. BiancaDK

i dunno man, seems too soon to call it

Hey sometimes you have to blow that whistle and call it quick. We could always go for instant replay if we're challenged.:P
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#104 Palantas
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F*** no.

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#105 tenaka2
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Not really, it have reinforced my athiest views a bit I think.

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#106 BiancaDK
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I guess my OP was easily misinterpreted. If it offended you then I'm sorry. Anyway I'm not going to ask what you believe because the way you make it out I don't think my innocent mind could take it.:P

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hey your op never offended me (: i just saw where theone86 was coming from with his observation pertaining to said op, that's all. ;d im good, no need to apologize to my clown ass :p

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#107 deactivated-5d1cb98d088e5
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[QUOTE="BATTOSAI76"]

I guess my OP was easily misinterpreted. If it offended you then I'm sorry. Anyway I'm not going to ask what you believe because the way you make it out I don't think my innocent mind could take it.:P

BiancaDK

hey your op never offended me (: i just saw where theone86 was coming from with his observation pertaining to said op, that's all. ;d im good, no need to apologize to my clown ass :p

Glad to hear it.:)

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#108 michael_1234576
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Nah I'm not easily influenced
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#109 MushroomWig
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Not really, it have reinforced my athiest views a bit I think.

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Exactly what I was going to say.
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#110 Krelian-co
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i do hope some people at least started questioning some of the beliefs that dont make any sense instead of just taking everything blindfolded just because someone else told them to.

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#111 lowkey254
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i do hope some people at least started questioning some of the beliefs that dont make any sense instead of just taking everything blindfolded just because someone else told them to.

Krelian-co
Some people have experienced those things that others haven't yet. Sometimes those who haven't don't understand the beliefs of those who have. Everyone's not blindfolded, and everyone didn't listen to someone else to get to their current belief. I don't mean to discredit your hope/wish/dream just making a statement.
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#112 SPYDER0416
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Changing your religious views because of gamespot is like changing your political views because of FML.

So no, my religious beliefs are unnaffected.

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#113 Harkat95
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Not drastically, but it has given me some perspective and insight into religious topics.
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#114 fueled-system
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No because there is zero proof either way to prove 100% of something.

I have faith and will always have faith that God exist and unless there is proof no random person I will never meet on the internet can convice me otherwise

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#115 KiIIyou
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Yeah I've learned a bunch
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#116 tenaka2
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No because there is zero proof either way to prove 100% of something.

I have faith and will always have faith that God exist and unless there is proof no random person I will never meet on the internet can convice me otherwise

fueled-system

There are ways to prove things, 1 + 1 = 2, this is a fact it is 100% true.

Gravity is 100% true.

While a Gods may exist there is currently 0% proof that they do.

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#117 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="fueled-system"]

No because there is zero proof either way to prove 100% of something.

I have faith and will always have faith that God exist and unless there is proof no random person I will never meet on the internet can convice me otherwise

tenaka2

There are ways to prove things, 1 + 1 = 2, this is a fact it is 100% true.

Gravity is 100% true.

While a Gods may exist there is currently 0% proof that they do.

And 0% that they don't....
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#118 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="fueled-system"]

No because there is zero proof either way to prove 100% of something.

I have faith and will always have faith that God exist and unless there is proof no random person I will never meet on the internet can convice me otherwise

LJS9502_basic

There are ways to prove things, 1 + 1 = 2, this is a fact it is 100% true.

Gravity is 100% true.

While a Gods may exist there is currently 0% proof that they do.

And 0% that they don't....

A lot of religious sites don't recommend using the negative argument as it is self defeating and circular.

Going by your argument you have to give the same credence to the flying Spagetti monster, santa claus and the tooth fairy as there is 0% of them not existing either.

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#119 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

seriously? because i will bet NO ONE has experienced most of what is described in the bible, God used to "talk" so much in the old testament and now it remains silent i wonder why. There used to be prophets and angels and everything but they just "vanished"? And tell me please some REAL experiences, not experiences you accomodate to validate your beliefs because deep down you know they dont have any basis besides what they tell you to believe

So can you please share a real experience?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="fueled-system"]

No because there is zero proof either way to prove 100% of something.

I have faith and will always have faith that God exist and unless there is proof no random person I will never meet on the internet can convice me otherwise

lowkey254

There are ways to prove things, 1 + 1 = 2, this is a fact it is 100% true.

Gravity is 100% true.

While a Gods may exist there is currently 0% proof that they do.

And 0% that they don't....

its like santa, everybody ahs heard of him but nobody has seen him or heard him, so that makes him nonexistent. You cant see him you cant hear him, what more proof do you need? whats the best proof you have? oh right a book writen by people who burned people for saying the earth is not the center of the universe. Awesome

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#120 fueled-system
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

There are ways to prove things, 1 + 1 = 2, this is a fact it is 100% true.

Gravity is 100% true.

While a Gods may exist there is currently 0% proof that they do.

tenaka2

And 0% that they don't....

A lot of religious sites don't recommend using the negative argument as it is self defeating and circular.

Going by your argument you have to give the same credence to the flying Spagetti monster, santa claus and the tooth fairy as there is 0% of them not existing either.

He said the same thing he quoted you on....

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#121 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

There are ways to prove things, 1 + 1 = 2, this is a fact it is 100% true.

Gravity is 100% true.

While a Gods may exist there is currently 0% proof that they do.

tenaka2

And 0% that they don't....

A lot of religious sites don't recommend using the negative argument as it is self defeating and circular.

Going by your argument you have to give the same credence to the flying Spagetti monster, santa claus and the tooth fairy as there is 0% of them not existing either.

If you look through scientific advancements you will find many things discovered that were thought not to exist. We only know what we can perceive. It's entirely possible we are still missing the reality. It's not accurate to try to use science to pursue one's opinion while not allowing that we don't know everything and could be quite wrong. Or was the earth flat before science answered that question? Did the sun orbit the earth before science answered that question? Did microscopic entities not exist? Etc.
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#122 guildclaws
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Not even close

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#123 SPYDER0416
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[QUOTE="lowkey254"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

There are ways to prove things, 1 + 1 = 2, this is a fact it is 100% true.

Gravity is 100% true.

While a Gods may exist there is currently 0% proof that they do.

Krelian-co

And 0% that they don't....

its like santa, everybody ahs heard of him but nobody has seen him or heard him, so that makes him nonexistent. You cant see him you cant hear him, what more proof do you need? whats the best proof you have? oh right a book writen by people who burned people for saying the earth is not the center of the universe. Awesome

Its just so great when I hear someone talk about how annoying bible thumping southerners are right before they slam my face in with smug revelations of science I apparently didn't already know without an ounce of self awareness. I never even tell anyone my religion/non religion and I have to deal with this in real life somehow.

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#124 lowkey254
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[QUOTE="lowkey254"]

And 0% that they don't...

SPYDER0416

Its just so great when I hear someone talk about how annoying bible thumping southerners are right before they slam my face in with smug revelations of science I apparently didn't already know without an ounce of self awareness. I never even tell anyone my religion/non religion and I have to deal with this in real life somehow.

Somehow I was added to this string... I did not say the above statement.

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#125 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] And 0% that they don't....LJS9502_basic

A lot of religious sites don't recommend using the negative argument as it is self defeating and circular.

Going by your argument you have to give the same credence to the flying Spagetti monster, santa claus and the tooth fairy as there is 0% of them not existing either.

If you look through scientific advancements you will find many things discovered that were thought not to exist. We only know what we can perceive. It's entirely possible we are still missing the reality. It's not accurate to try to use science to pursue one's opinion while not allowing that we don't know everything and could be quite wrong. Or was the earth flat before science answered that question? Did the sun orbit the earth before science answered that question? Did microscopic entities not exist? Etc.

yes but science is all about finding the truth, the beliefs of science change with time according we go finding new things, but religion doesnt need that, according to religion you dont need science to find god, we dont have to fiund this other reality to find god, just by being here we should be able to communicate with him, and know him, isnt that what religion says? guess what no matter how hard you try you cant see, hear or in any way communicate with him other than people trying to see him in events that are not related to him.

Wasnt religion the one that said humans were the center of the universe? that it was blasphemy to say the earth was not the center of the universe? that big flood and volcan eruptions were the warth of god?

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#126 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

A lot of religious sites don't recommend using the negative argument as it is self defeating and circular.

Going by your argument you have to give the same credence to the flying Spagetti monster, santa claus and the tooth fairy as there is 0% of them not existing either.

Krelian-co

If you look through scientific advancements you will find many things discovered that were thought not to exist. We only know what we can perceive. It's entirely possible we are still missing the reality. It's not accurate to try to use science to pursue one's opinion while not allowing that we don't know everything and could be quite wrong. Or was the earth flat before science answered that question? Did the sun orbit the earth before science answered that question? Did microscopic entities not exist? Etc.

yes but science is all about finding the truth, the beliefs of science change with time according we go finding new things, but religion doesnt need that, according to religion you dont need science to find god, we dont have to fiund this other reality to find god, just by being here we should be able to communicate with him, and know him, isnt that what religion says? guess what no matter how hard you try you cant see, hear or in any way communicate with him other than people trying to see him in events that are not related to him.

Wasnt religion the one that said humans were the center of the universe? that it was blasphemy to say the earth was not the center of the universe? that big flood and volcan eruptions were the warth of god?

Science still cannot say something doesn't exist without evidence to that. And science evolves over time. The people in the ancient days did not have the knowledge. Which is true of us today. We do not know everything.

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#128 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]If you look through scientific advancements you will find many things discovered that were thought not to exist. We only know what we can perceive. It's entirely possible we are still missing the reality. It's not accurate to try to use science to pursue one's opinion while not allowing that we don't know everything and could be quite wrong. Or was the earth flat before science answered that question? Did the sun orbit the earth before science answered that question? Did microscopic entities not exist? Etc.LJS9502_basic

yes but science is all about finding the truth, the beliefs of science change with time according we go finding new things, but religion doesnt need that, according to religion you dont need science to find god, we dont have to fiund this other reality to find god, just by being here we should be able to communicate with him, and know him, isnt that what religion says? guess what no matter how hard you try you cant see, hear or in any way communicate with him other than people trying to see him in events that are not related to him.

Wasnt religion the one that said humans were the center of the universe? that it was blasphemy to say the earth was not the center of the universe? that big flood and volcan eruptions were the warth of god?

Science still cannot say something doesn't exist without evidence to that. And science evolves over time. The people in the ancient days did not have the knowledge. Which is true of us today. We do not know everything.

i agree with you, no one can say it exists or doesnt exists 100%, our knowledge is still primitive i think compared with what we have to discover, BUT i cant go on saying santa exists without seeing him can i? and as i see it, you cant say something exists until you have any kind of evidence it does.

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#129 Omni-Slash
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Yes....I do believe there is now a hell..
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#130 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

yes but science is all about finding the truth, the beliefs of science change with time according we go finding new things, but religion doesnt need that, according to religion you dont need science to find god, we dont have to fiund this other reality to find god, just by being here we should be able to communicate with him, and know him, isnt that what religion says? guess what no matter how hard you try you cant see, hear or in any way communicate with him other than people trying to see him in events that are not related to him.

Wasnt religion the one that said humans were the center of the universe? that it was blasphemy to say the earth was not the center of the universe? that big flood and volcan eruptions were the warth of god?

Krelian-co

Science still cannot say something doesn't exist without evidence to that. And science evolves over time. The people in the ancient days did not have the knowledge. Which is true of us today. We do not know everything.

i agree with you, no one can say it exists or doesnt exists 100%, our knowledge is still primitive i think compared with what we have to discover, BUT i cant go on saying santa exists without seeing him can i? and as i see it, you cant say something exists until you have any kind of evidence it does.

Why does everyone bring up Santa? Santa is a construct that both exists and does not exist. As the image presented to children....not ra real image. But since gifts do come from "santa" he has to exist in some form...in this case...people that "play" santa and leave real physical presents under a tree.
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#131 T_P_O
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Not in a way that sparked a total revolution of my belief system, but I think thanks to some posters, I have taken a liking to the idea of agnosticism (in its epistemological and not colloquial form).

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#132 lasseeb
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GOOD for you!
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#133 KiIIyou
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No. Anyone who has is frankly idiotic.Solid_Snake325
You'd have to be pretty closed minded and stubborn to think that, I think maybe if the question was "has gs made you change your religion?" or something similar than I could see why you said it. Or were you just playing off the op's sarcastic post?
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#135 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

A lot of religious sites don't recommend using the negative argument as it is self defeating and circular.

Going by your argument you have to give the same credence to the flying Spagetti monster, santa claus and the tooth fairy as there is 0% of them not existing either.

Krelian-co

If you look through scientific advancements you will find many things discovered that were thought not to exist. We only know what we can perceive. It's entirely possible we are still missing the reality. It's not accurate to try to use science to pursue one's opinion while not allowing that we don't know everything and could be quite wrong. Or was the earth flat before science answered that question? Did the sun orbit the earth before science answered that question? Did microscopic entities not exist? Etc.

yes but science is all about finding the truth, the beliefs of science change with time according we go finding new things, but religion doesnt need that, according to religion you dont need science to find god, we dont have to fiund this other reality to find god, just by being here we should be able to communicate with him, and know him, isnt that what religion says? guess what no matter how hard you try you cant see, hear or in any way communicate with him other than people trying to see him in events that are not related to him.

Wasnt religion the one that said humans were the center of the universe? that it was blasphemy to say the earth was not the center of the universe? that big flood and volcan eruptions were the warth of god?

not sure about Christianity, but religion isn't about talking to God as such , in Judaism its about worshipping him as part of a covenant/agreement. if God wishes to talk to some indivduals, he will and humans are certainly not the centre of the universe, God is , humans were partially created to be the custodians of the world, at least according to religious scripture. the Earth being the centre of the universe is not necessarily a religious practice, it started with the Greeks, who simply theorized this with nothing to do with religion .
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#136 dkdk999
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[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

A lot of religious sites don't recommend using the negative argument as it is self defeating and circular.

Going by your argument you have to give the same credence to the flying Spagetti monster, santa claus and the tooth fairy as there is 0% of them not existing either.

LJS9502_basic

If you look through scientific advancements you will find many things discovered that were thought not to exist. We only know what we can perceive. It's entirely possible we are still missing the reality. It's not accurate to try to use science to pursue one's opinion while not allowing that we don't know everything and could be quite wrong. Or was the earth flat before science answered that question? Did the sun orbit the earth before science answered that question? Did microscopic entities not exist? Etc.

yes but science is all about finding the truth, the beliefs of science change with time according we go finding new things, but religion doesnt need that, according to religion you dont need science to find god, we dont have to fiund this other reality to find god, just by being here we should be able to communicate with him, and know him, isnt that what religion says? guess what no matter how hard you try you cant see, hear or in any way communicate with him other than people trying to see him in events that are not related to him.

Wasnt religion the one that said humans were the center of the universe? that it was blasphemy to say the earth was not the center of the universe? that big flood and volcan eruptions were the warth of god?

Science still cannot say something doesn't exist without evidence to that. And science evolves over time. The people in the ancient days did not have the knowledge. Which is true of us today. We do not know everything.

"science cannot say something doesn't exist without evidence for that."

what would be an example of evidence that something doesn't exist ?

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#137 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

yes but science is all about finding the truth, the beliefs of science change with time according we go finding new things, but religion doesnt need that, according to religion you dont need science to find god, we dont have to fiund this other reality to find god, just by being here we should be able to communicate with him, and know him, isnt that what religion says? guess what no matter how hard you try you cant see, hear or in any way communicate with him other than people trying to see him in events that are not related to him.

Wasnt religion the one that said humans were the center of the universe? that it was blasphemy to say the earth was not the center of the universe? that big flood and volcan eruptions were the warth of god?

dkdk999

Science still cannot say something doesn't exist without evidence to that. And science evolves over time. The people in the ancient days did not have the knowledge. Which is true of us today. We do not know everything.

"science cannot say something doesn't exist without evidence for that."

what would be an example of evidence that something doesn't exist ?

thats the thing, there isn't , if you were to ask a geographer 1000 years ago , he would have told you that the earth is flat , of course now that would be a one way ticket to the insane asylum , but back then it was mainstream opinion.
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#138 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

yes but science is all about finding the truth, the beliefs of science change with time according we go finding new things, but religion doesnt need that, according to religion you dont need science to find god, we dont have to fiund this other reality to find god, just by being here we should be able to communicate with him, and know him, isnt that what religion says? guess what no matter how hard you try you cant see, hear or in any way communicate with him other than people trying to see him in events that are not related to him.

Wasnt religion the one that said humans were the center of the universe? that it was blasphemy to say the earth was not the center of the universe? that big flood and volcan eruptions were the warth of god?

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Science still cannot say something doesn't exist without evidence to that. And science evolves over time. The people in the ancient days did not have the knowledge. Which is true of us today. We do not know everything.

"science cannot say something doesn't exist without evidence for that."

what would be an example of evidence that something doesn't exist ?

There is none. That is why using science for proof is not applicable....but gets used all the time in these threads. Look....one's beliefs/non beliefs are just that. Science takes no sides.
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#139 Aquat1cF1sh
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Yes, actually. I used to be a passionate atheist.... Now I am a passionate agnostic. ;)
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#140 Darkhell153
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I now believe that the church of the flying spaghetti monster has more logic in it than all other religions put together.

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#141 Alter_Echo
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Yes. Before i came here i knew nothing of religion and did not wish to know anything. After being here for 8 years i know a little bit about religion but i wish i didn't.

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#142 bbkkristian
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Nope, I am not persuaded easily.
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#143 YoshiYogurt
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I am a devoted christian and after being on gamespot for a while, realizing OT is basically a convention for atheists, I am still a devote christian.
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#144 bobcheeseball
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In short, no.
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#145 foxhound_fox
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It has contributed. But no one specially convinced me if anything, just introduced me to other perspectives that allowed me to open up and discover things for myself.
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#146 fidosim
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Thanks to gamespot, I joined the Westboro Baptist Church
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#147 supa_badman
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It definitely hasn't, I still believe in a God, but I do think more on my beliefs and what and why I believe it.

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#148 nickz_fpk
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Nope, I still believe in God and follow the teachings in the bible.

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#149 ToastRider11
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No. That would be pretty sad if it did. But I was never one for religion though.

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#150 Aspen706
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Hasn't changed anything.