Hate Comes to Orange County

http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/husseinrashid/4333/tea_party_organizes_islamophobic_hate_rally/

The following video was shot at a Tea Party protest of a fundraiser for homeless and domestic abuse shelters. The reason the Tea Partiers are there is because the fundraiser was hosted by Muslims. As you can see, they scream some of the most hateful things at the participants, including at young children.

Later on, a GOP elected official says she wants the Marines to kill Muslims. But don't say the teabaggers are a bigoted group of idiots. 'Cuz that's just mean.

Teabaggers are dumb and I love your choice in unbiased source.

Teabaggers are dumb and I love your choice in unbiased source.

Saturos3091

The world is a very sick and sad place

Hate is allowed in a free society....and it happens all the time. I find it pointless to generalize and hate...but it seems common.

Hate is allowed in a free society....and it happens all the time. I find it pointless to generalize and hate...but it seems common.

LJS9502_basic

Sometimes our "good-ole boy Amuricans" scare me more then any far off terrorist group. :?

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Hate is allowed in a free society....and it happens all the time. I find it pointless to generalize and hate...but it seems common.

greenzone15

The Orange County Register states that the original plan was to protest the speakers at the event, a fairly normal occurence in American civic life. I do not believe the American Muslim community should give a platform to people who support designated terrorist organizations, or espouse anti-Semitic rhetoric. The speaker in question, Amir Abdel Malik Ali, was cited by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a "bigoted speaker." article

Way to generalize:roll:

[QUOTE="greenzone15"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Hate is allowed in a free society....and it happens all the time. I find it pointless to generalize and hate...but it seems common.

LJS9502_basic

Way to generalize:roll:

racer8dan

OK, but if you were a Tea Partier, wouldn't it give you pause that these are the sorts of people who shared parts of your ideology? Wouldn't it make you question some of your own beliefs, even momentarily?

Hate's everywhere when you define anything you disagree with as hate.

Hate's everywhere when you define anything you disagree with as hate.

aransom

Chanting "go home" to American children is cool in your book?

Hate already came to Orange County when they made another housewives reality show in there.sSubZerOo

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Way to generalize:roll:

superfluidity

OK, but if you were a Tea Partier, wouldn't it give you pause that these are the sorts of people who shared parts of your ideology? Wouldn't it make you question some of your own beliefs, even momentarily?

[QUOTE="racer8dan"]

Way to generalize:roll:

superfluidity

OK, but if you were a Tea Partier, wouldn't it give you pause that these are the sorts of people who shared parts of your ideology? Wouldn't it make you question some of your own beliefs, even momentarily?

Generalizing groups of people makes me feel so morally and intellectually superior.

The video makes me lol: "OUR CHILDREN HAVE BEEN TAUGHT IN SCHOOL THAT EVERY IDEA IS RIGHT, THAT NO ONE SHOULD CRITICISE OTHERS' POSITIONS NO MATTER HOW ODIOUS *stutter* AND WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT? MULTI-CULTURALISM"

lmao gb2 wikipedia retard

the same argument can be made for why don't more muslims speak out against the acts of the crazies among them... just because there are idiots who call themselves muslims or tea party members doesn't mean they all fit the same mold.

comp_atkins

I wouldn't dispute that but I think it makes sense to publicize the actions of radicals like this as much as possible. There are clearly people within the Tea Party movement who are racist or xenophobic and other people in the movement should be aware of that and publicly disassociate themselves. Otherwise you could have a situation where some of them rise to leadership roles.

Others beleifs and actions have nothing to do with my own.

racer8dan

Well, your ideas had to come from somewhere. I find it highly unlikely that anyone could form an entire political ideology without some influence from others.

If I were a Tea Partier and saw this, I would just be very careful about looking into the views of other people involved in the movement and make sure I wasn't influenced by people like the ones in the video.

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

the same argument can be made for why don't more muslims speak out against the acts of the crazies among them... just because there are idiots who call themselves muslims or tea party members doesn't mean they all fit the same mold.

superfluidity

I wouldn't dispute that but I think it makes sense to publicize the actions of radicals like this as much as possible. There are clearly people within the Tea Party movement who are racist or xenophobic and other people in the movement should be aware of that and publicly disassociate themselves. Otherwise you could have a situation where some of them rise to leadership roles.

Nah, it's just more convenient to categorize large political groups as entirely homogeneous entities with zero deviation from one person to the next.

[QUOTE="racer8dan"]

Others beleifs and actions have nothing to do with my own.

superfluidity

If I were a Tea Partier and saw this, I would just be very careful about looking into the views of other people involved in the movement and make sure I wasn't influenced by people like the ones in the video.

I am in no way defending the actions of those protesters, but there was a little more behind their protest than just a charity event. [quote="article"]The Orange County Register states that the original plan was to protest the speakers at the event, a fairly normal occurence in American civic life. I do not believe the American Muslim community should give a platform to people who support designated terrorist organizations, or espouse anti-Semitic rhetoric. The speaker in question, Amir Abdel Malik Ali, was cited by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a "bigoted speaker." Renevent42

I don't thing hanging around a racist person for example will turn me racist.

racer8dan

That might be true, but if you're supporting a group that includes racist elements and some of them came to power, you would be supporting racism. Just pretending that they aren't there doesn't make sense.

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I don't thing hanging around a racist person for example will turn me racist.

superfluidity

That might be true, but if you're supporting a group that includes racist elements and some of them came to power, you would be supporting racism. Just pretending that they aren't there doesn't make sense.

golly, who would have a problem with the speaker???

"The speaker in question, Amir Abdel Malik Ali"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtuCk6BDZSU

:lol:

golly, who would have a problem with the speaker???

"The speaker in question, Amir Abdel Malik Ali"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtuCk6BDZSU

:lol:

Riverwolf007

And go back home, "Terrorist"? Seriously? How can you even f******* defend that?

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golly, who would have a problem with the speaker???

"The speaker in question, Amir Abdel Malik Ali"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtuCk6BDZSU

:lol:

majoras_wrath

And go back home? Seriously?

people react to hate filled messages with hate, it's just the way people deal with insanity, they add more insanity.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

golly, who would have a problem with the speaker???

"The speaker in question, Amir Abdel Malik Ali"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtuCk6BDZSU

:lol:

Riverwolf007

And go back home? Seriously?

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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] So protest the speaker, don't shout in the faces of children :?

And go back home? Seriously?

majoras_wrath

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]i literally don't know how to react to this, if it was a kkk rally even i may have screamed at some children to go back to their trailer parks.

Riverwolf007

ok so you have nutcases screaming at kids you also have people bringing children to hear the message of a speaker who is on record with quotes like these.

Also among Malik-Ali's notable quotes and positions are the following:

• "The enemies of Islam know that when we come back to power we're gonna check 'em."
• "Stay conscious and ask Allah to raise the Muslims and give us victory over the disbeliever."
• "When it's all over, the only one standing is gonna be us [Muslims]."
• "Sooner or later, today's Muslim students will be the parents of Muslim children. And they should be militants."
• "Neo-cons are all Zionist Jews."
• "The wars against Iraq [Gulf War and Operation Iraqi Freedom]were manufaccture by jews in America to avert attention from the two [Palestinian] Intifadas."
• "You [Jews] made all the mistakes we wanted you to make. You went after [former Georgia congresswoman] Cynthia Mckinney. So now black folks don't like you.... You're walking into all the traps we want you to walk into. You hijacked American foreign policy."
• "[T]he Israelis were in control of 9-11," which"was staged to give an excuse to wage war against Muslims around the world."
• Israelis ought to return "to Germany, to Poland, to Russia. The Germans should hook y'all up. You [Israelis] should go back to Germany."
• "In America, you're mostly fighting with your tongue, but you should also learn how to fight with the sword."
• At the SixthAnnual Muslim Student Association Conference held at UC Berkeley in February 2004,Malik-Ali denounced "the white man, who is the enemy."

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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] But it wasn't. It was a fundraiser for abused women shelters. How can you defend bigots? I don't give a f*** if you are one of those people who thinks all Muslims are terrorist. How the f*** can you defend that?TheArGaia

no responce for 20 mins? ok then my turn again.

see. here we reach the fundamental problem when trying to comment on something like this.

as soon as you begin to dig a little deeper and say hmmm, that's horrible lets see what sort of reason could there be for this to turn so ugly.

here comes the smokescreen.

YOU ARE A BIGOT!!! YOU HATESISIS THE MUSLIMS!!!

it's a tactic to make one group look like victims and one look innocent.

lets say i decide to have a fundraising rally to save homeless puppys from kill shelters.

then i invite well known puppy lover and white supremacist david duke to speak at my puppy fund rally. http://www.nndb.com/people/210/000024138/

can anyone see where i may have made a mistake?

Hmmm.... funny -- I'm sure I've seen that kind of mentality at work before... reminds me of a certain political party that rose to power in Germany in the 1930's...67gt500

Comparing people you disagree with to Nazis is pretty original.