Hate on Muslims is rising (VID INSIDE)

well seeing as the prophet had a total of 13 wives through his lifetime Aisha was the only one aged under 17, 9 of which were widows. This shows that it was not the norm of the prophet to marry woman at that said age which obviously a peadophile would insist upon as that would be what attracts him. And it is also detailed that Aisha had beauty beyond her age which means she was far more developed than what a 9 year old would be today.

[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="rockguy92"] What about hating, oh say, Christianity?Dark_Knight6

Odd, I tend to find any book that calls for stoning as a punishment for anything to be rather violent.

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="Silenthps"] Biblical Christianity isn't a violent religion like Islam is. Silenthps

Odd, I tend to find any book that calls for stoning as a punishment for anything to be rather violent.

[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

Odd, I tend to find any book that calls for stoning as a punishment for anything to be rather violent.

hydratedleaf

At any rate, it has the metaphysical credibility of Spiderman. What most people get wrong is that religion has to prove itself, not the other way around.

Edit: So far it's doing a rather terrible job, what with the entire world being miserable nad everything.

[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

Odd, I tend to find any book that calls for stoning as a punishment for anything to be rather violent.

hydratedleaf

dude , we have a nice picture here , dont ruin it :P plus offencing well get you banned be carefull :?

[QUOTE="hydratedleaf"][QUOTE="Silenthps"] Yeah thats why i said Biblical Christianity and not Pre-Christ Judaism :|gubrushadow

dude , we have a nice picture here , dont ruin it :P plus offencing well get you banned be carefull :?

They should ban every single religious person then. I'm extremely offended by their blindness.

[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

Odd, I tend to find any book that calls for stoning as a punishment for anything to be rather violent.

hydratedleaf

[QUOTE="hydratedleaf"][QUOTE="Silenthps"] Yeah thats why i said Biblical Christianity and not Pre-Christ Judaism :|LJS9502_basic

so much ignorance, I swear.

Who gives anybody the right to label all muslims as terrorists because of the actions of insane extremists?

Let me start with this point, the things that these people do in the name of islam are NOT the things that islam represents. These basterds defy EVERYTHING that the prophit said and everything in the Quran. Their actions are considered the biggest sins and trust me when I say this, no muslims support them.

And just like there are muslim extremists, there are christian and jewish extremists, but that doesnt mean that I will call all christians and jews terrorists and hate them all.

second point. The prophit got married to a 6 year old girl? seriously? and you're actually citing Wikipedia? I assure you, he didnt.

Third point, you probably guessed this by now, I'm a muslim living in an islamic nation. In my country, we have churches and temples, and jews and christians are never rioted against nor hated because of their religion.

[QUOTE="hydratedleaf"][QUOTE="Silenthps"] Yeah thats why i said Biblical Christianity and not Pre-Christ Judaism :|LJS9502_basic

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/stoning.html

Though i would say the source is rather Bias, to say their is no mention of stoning or punishments of death in the bible would be idiotic

Also i see you had completely ignored the response to the argument we was just having 5 minutes ago

[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

Odd, I tend to find any book that calls for stoning as a punishment for anything to be rather violent.

hydratedleaf

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]

[QUOTE="hydratedleaf"]Um, I don't care whether it was later abrogated by a new covenant; any religion in which God EVER wants someone stoned to death for blaspheming (Leviticus 24:16) is a violent, unpleasant, neanderthal one.Filthybastrd

dude , we have a nice picture here , dont ruin it :P plus offencing well get you banned be carefull :?

They should ban every single religious person then. I'm extremely offended by their blindness.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="hydratedleaf"]Um, I don't care whether it was later abrogated by a new covenant; any religion in which God EVER wants someone stoned to death for blaspheming (Leviticus 24:16) is a violent, unpleasant, neanderthal one.Super_Toad_64

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/stoning.html

Though i would say the source is rather Bias, to say their is no mention of stoning or punishments of death in the bible would be idiotic

[QUOTE="hydratedleaf"][QUOTE="Silenthps"] Yeah thats why i said Biblical Christianity and not Pre-Christ Judaism :|LJS9502_basic

Fair enough but lets not leave them out. I mean a certain branch of Christianity has earned itself a reputation for indulging in the pleasures of young boys while being protected by Mr. Popey himself. Not to mention the good ol' crusades and the very agressive reaction to things such as abortions and Harry Potter.

Religion is treated more or less like Soccer (Football). that means: "Kill the others!!!!!!!!!"

Edit: And I don't really think it's that important what any of the books say compared to what people do with it. Turns out it's much more acceptable, being a psychopath as long as some god is backing you up.

second point. The prophit got married to a 6 year old girl? seriously? and you're actually citing Wikipedia? I assure you, he didnt.Nauron-

[QUOTE="Super_Toad_64"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Christianity has not called for stoning so it shouldn't be accused of it.

Silenthps

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/stoning.html

Though i would say the source is rather Bias, to say their is no mention of stoning or punishments of death in the bible would be idiotic

[QUOTE="hydratedleaf"][QUOTE="Silenthps"] Yeah thats why i said Biblical Christianity and not Pre-Christ Judaism :|Silenthps

so much ignorance, I swear.

Who gives anybody the right to label all muslims as terrorists because of the actions of insane extremists?

Let me start with this point, the things that these people do in the name of islam are NOT the things that islam represents. These basterds defy EVERYTHING that the prophit said and everything in the Quran. Their actions are considered the biggest sins and trust me when I say this, no muslims support them.

And just like there are muslim extremists, there are christian and jewish extremists, but that doesnt mean that I will call all christians and jews terrorists and hate them all.

second point. The prophit got married to a 6 year old girl? seriously? and you're actually citing Wikipedia? I assure you, he didnt.

Third point, you probably guessed this by now, I'm a muslim living in an islamic nation. In my country, we have churches and temples, and jews and christians are never rioted against nor hated because of their religion.

Nauron-

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="hydratedleaf"]Um, I don't care whether it was later abrogated by a new covenant; any religion in which God EVER wants someone stoned to death for blaspheming (Leviticus 24:16) is a violent, unpleasant, neanderthal one.Filthybastrd

Fair enough but lets not leave them out. I mean a certain branch of Christianity has earned itself a reputation for indulging in the pleasures of young boys while being protected by Mr. Popey himself. Not to mention the good ol' crusades and the very agressive reaction to things such as abortions and Harry Potter.

Religion is treated more or less like Soccer (Football). that means: "Kill the others!!!!!!!!!"

[QUOTE="Nauron-"]second point. The prophit got married to a 6 year old girl? seriously? and you're actually citing Wikipedia? I assure you, he didnt.hydratedleaf

Let me repost my response to this said argument that somehow got overlooked by all the people within the argument

well seeing as the prophet had a total of 13 wives through his lifetime Aisha was the only one aged under 17, 9 of which were widows. This shows that it was not the norm of the prophet to marry woman at that said age which obviously a peadophile would insist upon as that would be what attracts him. And it is also detailed that Aisha had beauty beyond her age which means she was far more developed than what a 9 year old would be today.

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]

[QUOTE="hydratedleaf"]Um, I don't care whether it was later abrogated by a new covenant; any religion in which God EVER wants someone stoned to death for blaspheming (Leviticus 24:16) is a violent, unpleasant, neanderthal one.hydratedleaf

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Christianity has not called for stoning so it shouldn't be accused of it.

Silenthps

Fair enough but lets not leave them out. I mean a certain branch of Christianity has earned itself a reputation for indulging in the pleasures of young boys while being protected by Mr. Popey himself. Not to mention the good ol' crusades and the very agressive reaction to things such as abortions and Harry Potter.

Religion is treated more or less like Soccer (Football). that means: "Kill the others!!!!!!!!!"

Bugger, late edit there: I'll just repost:

Edit: And I don't really think it's that important what any of the books say compared to what people do with it. Turns out it's much more acceptable, being a psychopath as long as some god is backing you up.

Realedit: Religion does'nt have any practical function outside of excusing your behaviour. And I find it mind boggling that educated people can actually embrace it along with science.

[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="Super_Toad_64"]

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/stoning.html

Though i would say the source is rather Bias, to say their is no mention of stoning or punishments of death in the bible would be idiotic

Super_Toad_64

[QUOTE="hydratedleaf"][QUOTE="Nauron-"]second point. The prophit got married to a 6 year old girl? seriously? and you're actually citing Wikipedia? I assure you, he didnt.Super_Toad_64

Let me repost my response to this said argument that somehow got overlooked by all the people within the argument

well seeing as the prophet had a total of 13 wives through his lifetime Aisha was the only one aged under 17, 9 of which were widows. This shows that it was not the norm of the prophet to marry woman at that said age which obviously a peadophile would insist upon as that would be what attracts him. And it is also detailed that Aisha had beauty beyond her age which means she was far more developed than what a 9 year old would be today.

[QUOTE="Super_Toad_64"]

[QUOTE="Silenthps"] Not one of those are new testament verses and every single one applied only to the Israeli legal system only. The laws didn't apply to anyone living outside of Israel.Silenthps

the Bible before the new testament had a mediate a means of comunication through god to the people and that was the prophet jesus (Isah Peace be upon him) the new testament was written by men after the death of the prophet

[QUOTE="Super_Toad_64"]

[QUOTE="Silenthps"] Not one of those are new testament verses and every single one applied only to the Israeli legal system only. The laws didn't apply to anyone living outside of Israel.Silenthps

the thread is turning upside down:|:o

[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Fair enough but lets not leave them out. I mean a certain branch of Christianity has earned itself a reputation for indulging in the pleasures of young boys while being protected by Mr. Popey himself. Not to mention the good ol' crusades and the very agressive reaction to things such as abortions and Harry Potter.

Religion is treated more or less like Soccer (Football). that means: "Kill the others!!!!!!!!!"

Filthybastrd

Bugger, late edit there: I'll just repost:

Edit: And I don't really think it's that important what any of the books say compared to what people do with it. Turns out it's much more acceptable, being a psychopath as long as some god is backing you up.

Realedit: Religion does'nt have any practical function outside of excusing your behaviour. And I find it mind boggling that educated people can actually embrace it along with science.

[QUOTE="Silenthps"] I never said you can't "let my God off" I'm saying you can't call Christianity a violent religion because of pre-christian jewish laws. hydratedleaf

Not to mention that every single branch of religion picks and chooses what to believe in - and even more importantly - how to interpret the texts. How the **** can you believe in something like it was the word of an ultimate being, when you're idea of what it means is guesswork?

Every single religion breaks down after just a few questions so why believe so hard? Because you want to?

Religion is all about emotion and not at all about facts.

Not to mention that every single branch of religion picks and chooses what to believe in - and even more importantly - how to interpret the texts. How the **** can you believe in something like it was the word of an ultimate being, when you're idea of what it means is guesswork?

Every single religion breaks down after just a few questions so why believe so hard? Because you want to?

Religion is all about emotion and not at all about facts.

Filthybastrd

Oh noes the EDL are racists; there are muslim extremists KILLING PEOPLE yet this is some how worse since we must always be on the moral high horse. UK FTL its a joke of a country.

I swear I am all up for making a country that does not allow religion and anyone like the EDL/BNP/KKK etc are kicked out straight away.

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]Which is exactly why I said Biblical Christianity. No where in the bible does it tell people to rape little boys or to go on crusades.Silenthps

Bugger, late edit there: I'll just repost:

Edit: And I don't really think it's that important what any of the books say compared to what people do with it. Turns out it's much more acceptable, being a psychopath as long as some god is backing you up.

Realedit: Religion does'nt have any practical function outside of excusing your behaviour. And I find it mind boggling that educated people can actually embrace it along with science.

I agree, but it still goes to show that the belief systems we have in place right now are more akin to political lobbyism than any kind of faith. And there's still the entire issue of faith being treated like fact when it's actually just uhhhhhhhh, subjective perception at best.

[QUOTE="hydratedleaf"][QUOTE="Silenthps"] I never said you can't "let my God off" I'm saying you can't call Christianity a violent religion because of pre-christian jewish laws. Silenthps

[QUOTE="hydratedleaf"][QUOTE="Nauron-"]second point. The prophit got married to a 6 year old girl? seriously? and you're actually citing Wikipedia? I assure you, he didnt.Super_Toad_64

Let me repost my response to this said argument that somehow got overlooked by all the people within the argument

well seeing as the prophet had a total of 13 wives through his lifetime Aisha was the only one aged under 17, 9 of which were widows. This shows that it was not the norm of the prophet to marry woman at that said age which obviously a peadophile would insist upon as that would be what attracts him. And it is also detailed that Aisha had beauty beyond her age which means she was far more developed than what a 9 year old would be today.

Try asking a judge whether or not that would be a proper excuse for marrying a 9-year old

[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="Super_Toad_64"] The new testament is not the word of god though. It was written by men.

Super_Toad_64

the Bible before the new testament had a mediate a means of comunication through god to the people and that was the prophet jesus (Isah Peace be upon him) the new testament was written by men after the death of the prophet

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Not to mention that every single branch of religion picks and chooses what to believe in - and even more importantly - how to interpret the texts. How the **** can you believe in something like it was the word of an ultimate being, when you're idea of what it means is guesswork?

Every single religion breaks down after just a few questions so why believe so hard? Because you want to?

Religion is all about emotion and not at all about facts.

gubrushadow

Well you can try :P I'm inflicted with insomnia and readily available beer, which means my already low intelligence is dropping fast. 6 hours till school, which in itself is somewhat sad for one of my age ;)

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]

[QUOTE="hydratedleaf"]Why not? You believe it was your God who handed down these brutal laws. That makes your religion violent.hydratedleaf

[QUOTE="Super_Toad_64"]

In the Hadiths: Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234 begins 'Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six'. Secondly, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236: 'Narrated Hisham's father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.'hydratedleaf

Let me repost my response to this said argument that somehow got overlooked by all the people within the argument

well seeing as the prophet had a total of 13 wives through his lifetime Aisha was the only one aged under 17, 9 of which were widows. This shows that it was not the norm of the prophet to marry woman at that said age which obviously a peadophile would insist upon as that would be what attracts him. And it is also detailed that Aisha had beauty beyond her age which means she was far more developed than what a 9 year old would be today.

Try asking a judge whether or not that would be a proper excuse for marrying a 9-year old

[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="Super_Toad_64"] The new testament is not the word of god though. It was written by men.

Super_Toad_64

the Bible before the new testament had a mediate a means of comunication through god to the people and that was the prophet jesus (Isah Peace be upon him) the new testament was written by men after the death of the prophet

[QUOTE="Super_Toad_64"]

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]as was the old testament, both are the word of God. Silenthps

the Bible before the new testament had a mediate a means of comunication through god to the people and that was the prophet jesus (Isah Peace be upon him) the new testament was written by men after the death of the prophet

Whatever, but you didn't prove that Christianity is a violent religion.Silenthps

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"][QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Not to mention that every single branch of religion picks and chooses what to believe in - and even more importantly - how to interpret the texts. How the **** can you believe in something like it was the word of an ultimate being, when you're idea of what it means is guesswork?

Every single religion breaks down after just a few questions so why believe so hard? Because you want to?

Religion is all about emotion and not at all about facts.

Filthybastrd

Well you can try :P I'm inflicted with insomnia and readily available beer, which means my already low intelligence is dropping fast. 6 hours till school, which in itself is somewhat sad for one of my age ;)

[QUOTE="DoomZaW"]

[QUOTE="Super_Toad_64"]

Let me repost my response to this said argument that somehow got overlooked by all the people within the argument

well seeing as the prophet had a total of 13 wives through his lifetime Aisha was the only one aged under 17, 9 of which were widows. This shows that it was not the norm of the prophet to marry woman at that said age which obviously a peadophile would insist upon as that would be what attracts him. And it is also detailed that Aisha had beauty beyond her age which means she was far more developed than what a 9 year old would be today.

Nauron-

Try asking a judge whether or not that would be a proper excuse for marrying a 9-year old

still not an excuse :roll:

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"] errrrr... can i start a debate with you or you busy , cuz im really bored :Pgubrushadow

Well you can try :P I'm inflicted with insomnia and readily available beer, which means my already low intelligence is dropping fast. 6 hours till school, which in itself is somewhat sad for one of my age ;)

Nope, not at all. I have no idea. No explanation.

At least I don't tout some **** and sell it as the truth.

I'd appreciate that since we're here and we're clueless, we should make the best of it.

Instead, the majority of us are busy beliving in Spiderman, Master Chief and the Hulk while we do our best to make everyone else miserable in the name of the Extremely tiny giant Spider Teddybear of Disney 5.

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]Whatever, but you didn't prove that Christianity is a violent religion.hydratedleaf