Hezbollah stockpiles 40,000 rockets near Israeli border, what a surprise.

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#1 vitriolboy
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Link to story.

This is the only reason these groups ever agree to ceasefires - to rearm.

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very true hopefully doesnt happen

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very true hopefully doesnt happen

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They've been stockpiling weapons so it's only a matter of time.

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Not a big surprise. Hopefully one day Lebanon can stand on its own with just one military organization.
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Are you serious? Have we lowered to the point of condemning those who fight for their freedom? The Palestinian's homes were taken by the Israelis and we accuse them of terrorism for wanted their land back? Honestly, the Zionist propaganda has gotten to you guys' head....you know what you don't hear in the news everyday? Israel's mass genocide of the Palestinians, and trust me I've seen some gruesome pictures and videos on multiple websites which trumps the holocaust (how ironic) on disgusting. The Palestinians have every right to fight Israel, just like WE had every right to fight back Britain during the revolutionary war.
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Are you serious? Have we lowered to the point of condemning those who fight for their freedom? The Palestinian's homes were taken by the Israelis and we accuse them of terrorism for wanted their land back? Honestly, the Zionist propaganda has gotten to you guys' head....you know what you don't hear in the news everyday? Israel's mass genocide of the Palestinians, and trust me I've seen some gruesome pictures and videos on multiple websites which trumps the holocaust (how ironic) on disgusting. The Palestinians have every right to fight Israel, just like WE had every right to fight back Britain during the revolutionary war.sacredtext62

I disagreee, resorting to any form of violence shouldn't be necessary. Instead, Palestine should fight with words and not bullets.

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[QUOTE="sacredtext62"]Are you serious? Have we lowered to the point of condemning those who fight for their freedom? The Palestinian's homes were taken by the Israelis and we accuse them of terrorism for wanted their land back? Honestly, the Zionist propaganda has gotten to you guys' head....you know what you don't hear in the news everyday? Israel's mass genocide of the Palestinians, and trust me I've seen some gruesome pictures and videos on multiple websites which trumps the holocaust (how ironic) on disgusting. The Palestinians have every right to fight Israel, just like WE had every right to fight back Britain during the revolutionary war.skelebull3000

I disagreee, resorting to any form of violence shouldn't be necessary. Instead, Palestine should fight with words and not bullets.

Ok makes sense, so we should of fought with words as well against the British and Hitler That's what you are saying correct?
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[QUOTE="sacredtext62"]Are you serious? Have we lowered to the point of condemning those who fight for their freedom? The Palestinian's homes were taken by the Israelis and we accuse them of terrorism for wanted their land back? Honestly, the Zionist propaganda has gotten to you guys' head....you know what you don't hear in the news everyday? Israel's mass genocide of the Palestinians, and trust me I've seen some gruesome pictures and videos on multiple websites which trumps the holocaust (how ironic) on disgusting. The Palestinians have every right to fight Israel, just like WE had every right to fight back Britain during the revolutionary war.skelebull3000

I disagreee, resorting to any form of violence shouldn't be necessary. Instead, Palestine should fight with words and not bullets.

and thats how you guys fought against the british in the american revolution :roll:

also know one is really willing to hear the palestinians and what they have to say, since they are overly opressed by Israel.

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[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]

[QUOTE="sacredtext62"]Are you serious? Have we lowered to the point of condemning those who fight for their freedom? The Palestinian's homes were taken by the Israelis and we accuse them of terrorism for wanted their land back? Honestly, the Zionist propaganda has gotten to you guys' head....you know what you don't hear in the news everyday? Israel's mass genocide of the Palestinians, and trust me I've seen some gruesome pictures and videos on multiple websites which trumps the holocaust (how ironic) on disgusting. The Palestinians have every right to fight Israel, just like WE had every right to fight back Britain during the revolutionary war.sacredtext62

I disagreee, resorting to any form of violence shouldn't be necessary. Instead, Palestine should fight with words and not bullets.

Ok makes sense, so we should of fought with words as well against the British and Hitler That's what you are saying correct?

I hate how every time you talk about using peace to solve conflicts somebody always uses Hitler as an argument for war. Firstly, we don't know what would've happened if the American Civil war hadn't been fought and secondly we don't know what would've happen if Hitler would've taken control. All we can do is speculate and that doesn't get us anywhere.

Secondly, the war in the middle east has been going on since the 50's and fighting has brought the palestinians nothing but pain. Why should they continue down that road? Do you believe that this struggle has actually amounted to anything? War is never glorious, there's never an "evil" side and a benevolent side because we are in fact all humans.

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Are you serious? Have we lowered to the point of condemning those who fight for their freedom? The Palestinian's homes were taken by the Israelis and we accuse them of terrorism for wanted their land back? Honestly, the Zionist propaganda has gotten to you guys' head.....sacredtext62

you seem to forget it was the british who led the removal of the palestinains to make way for the israelis. many tend to forget that, as the jewish peoples were to disorganized and scattered after WW2 & it was britian and several other nations who paved the way for the israeli people.

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[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]

[QUOTE="sacredtext62"]Are you serious? Have we lowered to the point of condemning those who fight for their freedom? The Palestinian's homes were taken by the Israelis and we accuse them of terrorism for wanted their land back? Honestly, the Zionist propaganda has gotten to you guys' head....you know what you don't hear in the news everyday? Israel's mass genocide of the Palestinians, and trust me I've seen some gruesome pictures and videos on multiple websites which trumps the holocaust (how ironic) on disgusting. The Palestinians have every right to fight Israel, just like WE had every right to fight back Britain during the revolutionary war.canuck19

I disagreee, resorting to any form of violence shouldn't be necessary. Instead, Palestine should fight with words and not bullets.

and thats how you guys fought against the british in the american revolution :roll:

also know one is really willing to hear the palestinians and what they have to say, since they are overly opressed by Israel.

I'm a Colombian born German. :| It's easy to support a fight if it isn't your own neck on the line, isn't it?

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[QUOTE="sacredtext62"]Are you serious? Have we lowered to the point of condemning those who fight for their freedom? The Palestinian's homes were taken by the Israelis and we accuse them of terrorism for wanted their land back? Honestly, the Zionist propaganda has gotten to you guys' head.....uberbra

you seem to forget it was the british who led the removal of the palestinains to make way for the israelis. many tend to forget that, as the jewish peoples were to disorganized and scattered after WW2 & it was britian and several other nations who paved the way for the israeli people.

Yup, they honorably paved the way over the dead bodies of all the Palestinians for the poor Jews to live. Great logic.
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[QUOTE="uberbra"]

[QUOTE="sacredtext62"]Are you serious? Have we lowered to the point of condemning those who fight for their freedom? The Palestinian's homes were taken by the Israelis and we accuse them of terrorism for wanted their land back? Honestly, the Zionist propaganda has gotten to you guys' head.....sacredtext62

you seem to forget it was the british who led the removal of the palestinains to make way for the israelis. many tend to forget that, as the jewish peoples were to disorganized and scattered after WW2 & it was britian and several other nations who paved the way for the israeli people.

Yup, they honorably paved the way over the dead bodies of all the Palestinians for the poor Jews to live. Great logic.

Yes, it was a mistake but why should that mistake be followed by other mistakes? Do you actually believe that the palestinian attacks on civilians in Israel will actually help their cause? No, it will only cause Israel to become angry, and we all know what happens when they get angered by the Palestinians >_>

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#14 jakethesnake159
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honestly i hope this war ends soon i would like for my brothers to come back from hell.

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I would hate to chose a side in this conflict since both sides are wrong but you would think Israels enemies would have realized by now that everytime they fight Israel it ends badly for themselves...
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#17 canuck19
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[QUOTE="canuck19"]

[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]

I disagreee, resorting to any form of violence shouldn't be necessary. Instead, Palestine should fight with words and not bullets.

skelebull3000

and thats how you guys fought against the british in the american revolution :roll:

also know one is really willing to hear the palestinians and what they have to say, since they are overly opressed by Israel.

I'm a Colombian born German. :| It's easy to support a fight if it isn't your own neck on the line, isn't it?

good point I totally understand what your trying to say and I feel your being a bit to naive, since not every country is the U.S.A where you can supposedly voice your opinion out without much problems. But over there who are these mostly poor palestinians to speak out against the israelis they're homeland is a wasteland and most of them can't even read or write so unfortuanetly the only way they can voice their opinion out is through violence. and these "terrorists" are just fighting in a more organized way. Let me tell you something this fighting will NOT stop until Israels stops neglecting these palestinians and treat them like normal citizens.

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#18 IndigoSunrise
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Both sides are full of BS and both sides have done horrible things. I don't see how anyone can suport either one.

However you can't just ask millions of Israel citizens to just leave. Even though it was not aquired in a justified manner the fact that people have grown up there and lived their lives means its their's now. You can't just kick them out.

Both sides need to STFU.

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Both sides are full of BS and both sides have done horrible things. I don't see how anyone can suport either one.

IndigoSunrise

It's pretty obvious that if you do not support Israel or criticize Israel then you are anti-semitic.

However you can't just ask millions of Israel citizens to just leave. Even though it was not aquired in a justified manner the fact that people have grown up there and lived their lives means its their's now. You can't just kick them out.IndigoSunrise

Yes but...

The problem is that Israel continues to build settlements and it is disingenuous for them to say, "Whoops, we live here now" when they have been asked to cease building. So it is easy to understand the Palestinian's frustration.

There is no doubt in my mind that Israel will continue to build settlements and it will get the point where they know they can argue "You cannot ask all of our citizens to leave!"

What's sad is that the Jewish people experienced a horror that no other group should ever have to face, but there is very little sympathy from Israel to the Palestinians. It's like "Hey, as long as it is not happening to me, it's OK."

Both sides need to STFU.IndigoSunrise

Also true. I cannot find the picture, but there is a picture showing a Palestinian soldier hiding behind a baby carriage and on the other side an Israeli soldier in front of a baby carriage. The implication is that the Palestinians are cowards and will use women and children as shields whereas the Israeli soldier is courageous.

What it does not tell you is that the Israeli soldier will shoot anyway. Both sides are wankers.

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Yeah, like the Treaty of Amiens.
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Are you serious? Have we lowered to the point of condemning those who fight for their freedom? The Palestinian's homes were taken by the Israelis and we accuse them of terrorism for wanted their land back? Honestly, the Zionist propaganda has gotten to you guys' head....you know what you don't hear in the news everyday? Israel's mass genocide of the Palestinians, and trust me I've seen some gruesome pictures and videos on multiple websites which trumps the holocaust (how ironic) on disgusting. The Palestinians have every right to fight Israel, just like WE had every right to fight back Britain during the revolutionary war.sacredtext62

I kind of agree. I agree about the zionist propaganda and Israel always being blameless in the eyes of Americans. I also agree that some of the things Israel has done, like the forced seperation of Palestinians by the Israeli wall, are totally disgusting and should not be tolerated by the international community. However, both sides are in a bit of a tight spot. I'd say that fighting proves nothing and maybe if Hezbollah was less militant they'd get more international support. Perhaps that's wishful thinking, though. If anything, I agree that violence accomplishes nothing, but so long as the hardliners in the Israeli government are in control there is not going to be peace in that region.

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[QUOTE="sacredtext62"][QUOTE="uberbra"]

you seem to forget it was the british who led the removal of the palestinains to make way for the israelis. many tend to forget that, as the jewish peoples were to disorganized and scattered after WW2 & it was britian and several other nations who paved the way for the israeli people.

skelebull3000

Yup, they honorably paved the way over the dead bodies of all the Palestinians for the poor Jews to live. Great logic.

Yes, it was a mistake but why should that mistake be followed by other mistakes? Do you actually believe that the palestinian attacks on civilians in Israel will actually help their cause? No, it will only cause Israel to become angry, and we all know what happens when they get angered by the Palestinians >_>

Israelis are taking the Palestinians land and saying that it's necessary for them to expand. The whole Israeli settlements issue makes me sick, especially since almost no one in the international community seems interested in calling Israel out for it.

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Nuke 'em.
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]

Yup, they honorably paved the way over the dead bodies of all the Palestinians for the poor Jews to live. Great logic.sacredtext62

Yes, it was a mistake but why should that mistake be followed by other mistakes? Do you actually believe that the palestinian attacks on civilians in Israel will actually help their cause? No, it will only cause Israel to become angry, and we all know what happens when they get angered by the Palestinians >_>

Israelis are taking the Palestinians land and saying that it's necessary for them to expand. The whole Israeli settlements issue makes me sick, especially since almost no one in the international community seems interested in calling Israel out for it.

Well, I think going through a Holacaust, gives them the right to live wherever they want, at least for now. Personally, I think the problem is the Palestinians fault. They just cant peacefully live with Jews.
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I can tell exactly what's going to happen. Hezbollah is going to fire rockets into Israel, killing several civilians before dispersing into the Palistinean populace, then Israel is going to take it out on the Palestineans and use Hezbollah's attack as an excuse to displace more Palestineans and annex more land for further Israeli expansion, much to the criticism of the international community. /whoo
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Gentlemen, may I present to you Israel's newest tool in the complete domination of Palestine.







The armored bulldozer. Designed to bulldoze Palestinean homes whilst under enemy fire.

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#28 D-RS
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honestly i hope this war ends soon i would like for my brothers to come back from hell.

jakethesnake159
Dude what war :S:? i live in Lebanon and currently things are better than ever ? What are you talking about ?
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]

Yes, it was a mistake but why should that mistake be followed by other mistakes? Do you actually believe that the palestinian attacks on civilians in Israel will actually help their cause? No, it will only cause Israel to become angry, and we all know what happens when they get angered by the Palestinians >_>

Israelis are taking the Palestinians land and saying that it's necessary for them to expand. The whole Israeli settlements issue makes me sick, especially since almost no one in the international community seems interested in calling Israel out for it.

Well, I think going through a Holacaust, gives them the right to live wherever they want, at least for now. Personally, I think the problem is the Palestinians fault. They just cant peacefully live with Jews.

So you are telling me that if someone 's family is killed he has the right to kill whenever he wants and dude ISRAEL invaded Palestine imaging if somebody invaded your country would you live peacefully with them ? ( I am from lebanon btw)
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]

Yes, it was a mistake but why should that mistake be followed by other mistakes? Do you actually believe that the palestinian attacks on civilians in Israel will actually help their cause? No, it will only cause Israel to become angry, and we all know what happens when they get angered by the Palestinians >_>

bronxxbombers

Israelis are taking the Palestinians land and saying that it's necessary for them to expand. The whole Israeli settlements issue makes me sick, especially since almost no one in the international community seems interested in calling Israel out for it.

Well, I think going through a Holacaust, gives them the right to live wherever they want, at least for now. Personally, I think the problem is the Palestinians fault. They just cant peacefully live with Jews.

The whole "we're the victim here!" shtick the Israelis have been pulling kinda ran out of steam after the six day war. Nothing like a pre-emptive strike to show how abused you are.

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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="theone86"]

Israelis are taking the Palestinians land and saying that it's necessary for them to expand. The whole Israeli settlements issue makes me sick, especially since almost no one in the international community seems interested in calling Israel out for it.

MickeyTheNinja

Well, I think going through a Holacaust, gives them the right to live wherever they want, at least for now. Personally, I think the problem is the Palestinians fault. They just cant peacefully live with Jews.

Their motto before invading Palestine and kicking families out of their home with force and armies was "A land without people for a people with no land." Which makes no sense because the Palestinian people already lived there! That's what people don't get, they were invaded and kicked out of their own home...nuke the Jews.

Nuke the Jews? WTF? Dude even though the ORGINAL land was obtainted through less than justifiable methods, generations have grown there so its there land now. Deal with it.

If the Israel government takes more land however thats imperialism however plain and simple but the way you blame the RESIDENTS of the land and not the government is wrong. The citizens of Israel are innocent and cannot be blamed.

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[QUOTE="MickeyTheNinja"][QUOTE="bronxxbombers"] Well, I think going through a Holacaust, gives them the right to live wherever they want, at least for now. Personally, I think the problem is the Palestinians fault. They just cant peacefully live with Jews.IndigoSunrise

Their motto before invading Palestine and kicking families out of their home with force and armies was "A land without people for a people with no land." Which makes no sense because the Palestinian people already lived there! That's what people don't get, they were invaded and kicked out of their own home...nuke the Jews.

Nuke the Jews? WTF? Dude even though the ORGINAL land was obtainted through less than justifiable methods, generations have grown there so its there land now. Deal with it.

If the Israel government takes more land however thats imperialism however plain and simple but the way you blame the RESIDENTS of the land and not the government is wrong. The citizens of Israel are innocent and cannot be blamed.

Generations of Palestinians grew up there and had homes before they came in and literally kicked them out. How can no one see how that's bad?
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Gentlemen, may I present to you Israel's newest tool in the complete domination of Palestine.

The armored bulldozer. Designed to bulldoze Palestinean homes whilst under enemy fire.

hamstergeddon

I don't get why people think the Palestinians are the bad ones when there is junk like that. Too much news propaganda praising the Jews for no reason.

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Gentlemen, may I present to you Israel's newest tool in the complete domination of Palestine.



The armored bulldozer. Designed to bulldoze Palestinean homes whilst under enemy fire.

hamstergeddon

I dunno why but I loled at this, israel has gotten quite the ego due to support from big brother the US. Now they are even ignoring big brother.

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[QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"]

[QUOTE="MickeyTheNinja"] Their motto before invading Palestine and kicking families out of their home with force and armies was "A land without people for a people with no land." Which makes no sense because the Palestinian people already lived there! That's what people don't get, they were invaded and kicked out of their own home...nuke the Jews.MickeyTheNinja

Nuke the Jews? WTF? Dude even though the ORGINAL land was obtainted through less than justifiable methods, generations have grown there so its there land now. Deal with it.

If the Israel government takes more land however thats imperialism however plain and simple but the way you blame the RESIDENTS of the land and not the government is wrong. The citizens of Israel are innocent and cannot be blamed.

Generations of Palestinians grew up there and had homes before they came in and literally kicked them out. How can no one see how that's bad?

I said thats bad dude! But whats done is done. Its like what happened with the Native Americans. It was wrong to kick them out but kicking the Americans who had nothing to do with it out years later is JUST AS BAD! The governments of BOTH sides are messed up. It seems like all anyone does is take on side while condemning the other.

Blame the British not the jews for the creation of Isreal.

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Are you serious? Have we lowered to the point of condemning those who fight for their freedom? The Palestinian's homes were taken by the Israelis and we accuse them of terrorism for wanted their land back? Honestly, the Zionist propaganda has gotten to you guys' head....you know what you don't hear in the news everyday? Israel's mass genocide of the Palestinians, and trust me I've seen some gruesome pictures and videos on multiple websites which trumps the holocaust (how ironic) on disgusting. The Palestinians have every right to fight Israel, just like WE had every right to fight back Britain during the revolutionary war.sacredtext62
The land belonged to the Jews for over 3000 years before the Palestinians took it off them. They just took back what is rightfully theres in 1947.
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[QUOTE="sacredtext62"]Are you serious? Have we lowered to the point of condemning those who fight for their freedom? The Palestinian's homes were taken by the Israelis and we accuse them of terrorism for wanted their land back? Honestly, the Zionist propaganda has gotten to you guys' head....you know what you don't hear in the news everyday? Israel's mass genocide of the Palestinians, and trust me I've seen some gruesome pictures and videos on multiple websites which trumps the holocaust (how ironic) on disgusting. The Palestinians have every right to fight Israel, just like WE had every right to fight back Britain during the revolutionary war.Taegukki
The land belonged to the Jews for over 3000 years before the Palestinians took it off them. They just took back what is rightfully theres in 1947.

The jews stole that land from the people before brutally killing them and destroying their cities.. they have no right to claim anything.

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#38 br0kenrabbit
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The jews stole that land from the people before brutally killing them and destroying their cities.. they have no right to claim anything.

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Sounds a lot like the Muslim Conquests.

The region has always been at war and always will be. Isreal just happens to be in the strongest position right now.

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[QUOTE="sacredtext62"]Are you serious? Have we lowered to the point of condemning those who fight for their freedom? The Palestinian's homes were taken by the Israelis and we accuse them of terrorism for wanted their land back? Honestly, the Zionist propaganda has gotten to you guys' head....you know what you don't hear in the news everyday? Israel's mass genocide of the Palestinians, and trust me I've seen some gruesome pictures and videos on multiple websites which trumps the holocaust (how ironic) on disgusting. The Palestinians have every right to fight Israel, just like WE had every right to fight back Britain during the revolutionary war.Taegukki
The land belonged to the Jews for over 3000 years before the Palestinians took it off them. They just took back what is rightfully theres in 1947.

*facepalm*

X people lived in N after getting rid of Y people. 3000 years later Y people kicked X people out of N.

Where is the logic in this?

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Are you serious? Have we lowered to the point of condemning those who fight for their freedom? The Palestinian's homes were taken by the Israelis and we accuse them of terrorism for wanted their land back? Honestly, the Zionist propaganda has gotten to you guys' head....you know what you don't hear in the news everyday? Israel's mass genocide of the Palestinians, and trust me I've seen some gruesome pictures and videos on multiple websites which trumps the holocaust (how ironic) on disgusting. The Palestinians have every right to fight Israel, just like WE had every right to fight back Britain during the revolutionary war.sacredtext62
I agree.
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In every war israel has been in, Israel was always the first to attack why shouldnt these proxy groups re arm? The first 60 years of Israel has been nothing but blood shed and disaster and the Jews of israel are the most racist people you could meet not all of them but most of them are. Right groups of israel actually believe in wiping all arabs out and settlers continue to harass palestinians by taking land and demolishing houses! Why just today israel demolished a house in Arab east jerusalem leaving 53 palestinians without a home. Even now israel talks about attacking iran just for its nuclear accomplishments.

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In every war israel has been in, Israel was always the first to attack why shouldnt these proxy groups re arm? The first 60 years of Israel has been nothing but blood shed and disaster and the Jews of israel are the most racist people you could meet not all of them but most of them are. Right groups of israel actually believe in wiping all arabs out and settlers continue to harass palestinians by taking land and demolishing houses! Why just today israel demolished a house in Arab east jerusalem leaving 53 palestinians without a home. Even now israel talks about attacking iran just for its nuclear accomplishments.

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Could you be even more wrong?
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WOuld you care to elaborate
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WOuld you care to elaboratesosodat
Yes. Many wars Israel fought in, where not started by them, many being started by the egyptians, such as the 6 day war(egypt, Syria, and Jordan), and the Yom Kippur war(egyptians and Syria). More recently, the second Lebandon War was started when Hezbollah artillery shells landed in Israel, and two Israeli troops were abducted. The most recent offensive against the Hamas, was retaliation from years of the Hamas shooting rockets at Isreal.
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[QUOTE="sosodat"]WOuld you care to elaboratebronxxbombers
Yes. Many wars Israel fought in, where not started by them, many being started by the egyptians, such as the 6 day war(egypt, Syria, and Jordan), and the Yom Kippur war(egyptians and Syria). More recently, the second Lebandon War was started when Hezbollah artillery shells landed in Israel, and two Israeli troops were abducted. The most recent offensive against the Hamas, was retaliation from years of the Hamas shooting rockets at Isreal.

Israel is forcefully settling land that every nation on earth recognizes as belonging to Palestine, what are they supposed to do? What do you think the U.S. would do if the Mexican government started forcing people in New Mexico to move out of their homes? You think it would be, "Oh, it's alright, they need the land." Hell no, they'd force them out with superior military power. The problem is that Palestine doesn't have superior military power, thanks to Israel being buddy-buddy with the U.S. for so long, so they can't do anything except to attack with a missle strike every time the Israelis decide they need another slice of Palestinian land.

And I don't accept the Holocaust as an excuse for Israel to take other countries' land. For one, Nazi Germany perpetrated the Holocaust, not the Palestinians. The Palestinians shouldn't be held accountable for something they had no part in. Second, persecution does not warrant more persecution. That's a completely flawed line of thinking that leads to nothing but an endless cycle of persecution. It's actually pretty disconcerting that a nation of people who know so well what forceful displacement and persecution feel like would turn around and do the same to another group of people.

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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="sosodat"]WOuld you care to elaboratetheone86

Yes. Many wars Israel fought in, where not started by them, many being started by the egyptians, such as the 6 day war(egypt, Syria, and Jordan), and the Yom Kippur war(egyptians and Syria). More recently, the second Lebandon War was started when Hezbollah artillery shells landed in Israel, and two Israeli troops were abducted. The most recent offensive against the Hamas, was retaliation from years of the Hamas shooting rockets at Isreal.

Israel is forcefully settling land that every nation on earth recognizes as belonging to Palestine, what are they supposed to do? What do you think the U.S. would do if the Mexican government started forcing people in New Mexico to move out of their homes? You think it would be, "Oh, it's alright, they need the land." Hell no, they'd force them out with superior military power. The problem is that Palestine doesn't have superior military power, thanks to Israel being buddy-buddy with the U.S. for so long, so they can't do anything except to attack with a missle strike every time the Israelis decide they need another slice of Palestinian land.

And I don't accept the Holocaust as an excuse for Israel to take other countries' land. For one, Nazi Germany perpetrated the Holocaust, not the Palestinians. The Palestinians shouldn't be held accountable for something they had no part in. Second, persecution does not warrant more persecution. That's a completely flawed line of thinking that leads to nothing but an endless cycle of persecution. It's actually pretty disconcerting that a nation of people who know so well what forceful displacement and persecution feel like would turn around and do the same to another group of people.

No ones telling the Palestinians that they cant live in Israel. They just can live peacefully with the Jews in Israel.The Land of Isreal has been sacred since biblical times to Jews. The land was promised to the by god. Israel was then controlled by varios nations. Around 628, Jews were expelled by there "homeland" and the area promised to them by god. By the end of WW2, fleeing Jews were 33% of the Palestine. The land were Isreal is now, was won by the British back in WW1. So, as in History, the conqueror has the power, and the Jews have been on the other end of that stick for centuries. So, in summary, Israel was captured from the Jews by various groups, including the Ottaman Turks. The British then defeated the Ottaman Turks at the end of WW1. The area that is now Israel, was kept by the British, and many Jews immmigrated there before,during, and after WW2. So, the land was taken, the same way it was taken from the Jews, which is through war.
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[QUOTE="sosodat"]WOuld you care to elaboratebronxxbombers
Yes. Many wars Israel fought in, where not started by them, many being started by the egyptians, such as the 6 day war(egypt, Syria, and Jordan), and the Yom Kippur war(egyptians and Syria). More recently, the second Lebandon War was started when Hezbollah artillery shells landed in Israel, and two Israeli troops were abducted. The most recent offensive against the Hamas, was retaliation from years of the Hamas shooting rockets at Isreal.

Dude you kinda made a little mistake it is not the second lebanon war it is named War of July ( i am from lebanon , and yeah it was hizzbollah's fault )
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="sosodat"]WOuld you care to elaborateD-RS
Yes. Many wars Israel fought in, where not started by them, many being started by the egyptians, such as the 6 day war(egypt, Syria, and Jordan), and the Yom Kippur war(egyptians and Syria). More recently, the second Lebandon War was started when Hezbollah artillery shells landed in Israel, and two Israeli troops were abducted. The most recent offensive against the Hamas, was retaliation from years of the Hamas shooting rockets at Isreal.

Dude you kinda made a little mistake it is not the second lebanon war it is named War of July ( i am from lebanon , and yeah it was hizzbollah's fault )

Hmm, not what my source told me, but it doesnt really matter. A lot of wars have different names, depending on who you talk to, and what country your in.
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#49 beomri
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In Israel we call it the "second Lebanon war" but it wasn't only Hezbollah's fault, instead of negotiating for our soldiers (Which eventually happened 3 years after the war when the soldiers were already dead) our prime minister and minister of defence had to attack because of their huge ego.

And I also saw that someone has wrote that we are creating a mass genocide on the Palestinians, but it's not true, There's no genocide.

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#50 blaznwiipspman1
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heres a simple solution just share the land.