Hiroshima is marking the anniversary of the 1945 Atomic Bombing

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#1 thebest31406
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Hiroshima is marking the anniversary of the 1945 atomic bombing of the city with tens of thousands of residents, visitors, blast survivors and their relatives having gathered at the Peace Memorial to commemorate the victims

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http://www.rt.com/news/hiroshima-anniversary-atomic-bombing-928/

What a horrific event. So sad.

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Only a sick twisted country would be able to do the damage that had happened that day..

USA.

Still, very sad event.

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#3 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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Let us hope this never happens again.
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I wonder what FOX News thinks.

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#5 Oleg_Huzwog
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Harry Truman's grandson was in attendance this year. That was a nice touch.

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Only a sick twisted country would be able to do the damage that had happened that day..

USA.

Still, very sad event.

ThisIsTwoFace

Yeah, the US totally should have invaded Japan and caused millions of more casualties than would have been necessary. It's not like the US didn't go out of its way to not get invloved in the war.

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#7 BossPerson
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inb4 we had no choice

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I wonder what FOX News thinks.

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Probably the same thing the overwhelming majority think. That the dropping of those bombs was the right move.

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#9 BossPerson
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Harry Truman's grandson was in attendance this year. That was a nice touch.

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why do you think that?
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If it wasn't for the bomb, half of japan would have been occupied by the USSR.

Im sure that would have been fun.

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#11 Lord_Daemon
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inb4 we had no choice

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Too late.

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lol, watches once again as everyone crys a fukking river for hiroshima and nagasaki while forgetting about the other millions that died all around the world.

where is the anniversary for the remembrance of 300,000 civillians of nanking?

and dresiden? and essien? and warsaw? and about a thousand other places.

try not to forget there are plenty of atrocities to go around.

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Murica, the leader of the free world.

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#14 Lord_Daemon
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Harry Truman's grandson was in attendance this year. That was a nice touch.

Oleg_Huzwog

Indeed...

"The ceremony, attended by representatives of about 70 countries, began with the ringing of a temple bell and a moment of silence. Flowers were placed before Hiroshima's eternal flame, which is the park's centerpiece.

Truman's grandson, Clifton Truman Daniel, and the grandson of a radar operator who was on both of the planes that dropped the atomic bombs, joined in the memorial. Ari Beser's grandfather, Jacob Beser, was the only person who directly took part in both the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings.

In a news conference after the memorial, Daniel declined to comment on whether his grandfather's decision was the right one.

"I'm two generations down the line. It's now my responsibility to do all I can to make sure we never use nuclear weapons again," he said, according to Japan's Kyodo news service.

Daniel, 55, said earlier that he decided to visit Hiroshima and Nagasaki because he needed to know the consequences of his grandfather's decision as part of his own efforts to help achieve a nuclear-free world.

The U.S. government sent a representative the American ambassador to the annual commemoration for the first time two years ago. Ambassador John Roos attended the Hiroshima ceremony on Monday."

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Doesnt matter the reason why Murrica did it. Its still ****ed up. Im sure if it happened to us we'd be singing a different tune. RIP ww2 people
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Yeah, killing millions of people and leaving health defects that would last for generations would certainly the right move

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

I wonder what FOX News thinks.

Pirate700

Probably the same thing the overwhelming majority think. That the dropping of those bombs was the right move.

Yeah, killing millions of people and leaving health defects that would last for generations was certainly the right move
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Yeah, killing millions of people and leaving health defects that would last for generations would certainly the right move

thebest31406

You can't possibly be that naive and short sighted about war...

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Yeah, killing millions of people and leaving health defects that would last for generations would certainly the right move[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

I wonder what FOX News thinks.

thebest31406

Probably the same thing the overwhelming majority think. That the dropping of those bombs was the right move.

Yeah, killing millions of people and leaving health defects that would last for generations was certainly the right move

because firebombing and burning a city to the ground leaves no carcinogens behind.

derp.

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[QUOTE="thebest31406"]Yeah, killing millions of people and leaving health defects that would last for generations would certainly the right move

Pirate700

You can't possibly be that naive and short sighted about war...

Saddly allot of people are.

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#20 bobaban
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Yeah, killing millions of people and leaving health defects that would last for generations would certainly the right move[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

I wonder what FOX News thinks.

thebest31406

Probably the same thing the overwhelming majority think. That the dropping of those bombs was the right move.

Yeah, killing millions of people and leaving health defects that would last for generations was certainly the right move

It wasn't the "right" move. But was the most logical for ending the war.
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Yeah, killing millions of people and leaving health defects that would last for generations would certainly the right move[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

I wonder what FOX News thinks.

thebest31406

Probably the same thing the overwhelming majority think. That the dropping of those bombs was the right move.

Yeah, killing millions of people and leaving health defects that would last for generations was certainly the right move

As opposed to what? Trying to invade their country--with leaders who refused to surrender after the first bomb--would have killed more people, on both sides. It was the correct call for that time.
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The Japanese Empire deserved it. It had to happen.

The Japanese impaled babies with their bayonets. They commited some of the worst war crimes in history.

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Let's just hope something like that never happens again. And before anyone tosses in a " They deserved it", you wouldn't say or think the same way if the roles had been reversed.
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Only a sick twisted country would be able to do the damage that had happened that day..

USA.

Still, very sad event.

ThisIsTwoFace

What was sad about saving AMERICAN lives.

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Only a sick twisted country would be able to do the damage that had happened that day..

USA.

Still, very sad event.

ThisIsTwoFace

gGNGN.jpg

>MFW they attacked Pearl Harbor, and ultimately put the U.S. in WWII all because of oil.

The war needed to end, and I guess that was the only way.

Figure Nagasaki wouldn't have been bombed if Japan surrendered after the Hiroshima bombing.

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[QUOTE="thebest31406"]Yeah, killing millions of people and leaving health defects that would last for generations would certainly the right move[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Probably the same thing the overwhelming majority think. That the dropping of those bombs was the right move.

Ring_of_fire

Yeah, killing millions of people and leaving health defects that would last for generations was certainly the right move

As opposed to what? Trying to invade their country--with leaders who refused to surrender after the first bomb--would have killed more people, on both sides. It was the correct call for that time.

America has invaded and dropped bombs on Indochina, Nacaragua, the Middle East, etc. I suppose that means that if the these areas had the will and the way, dropping atomic bombs on the American people would be totally justified?

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[QUOTE="Treflis"]Let's just hope something like that never happens again. And before anyone tosses in a " They deserved it", you wouldn't say or think the same way if the roles had been reversed.

Is saying "they started it" better? :)
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I'm not sure that there was a "right move" in the situation that the US and Japan were in back then. It was a horrible thing. I would have probably dropped one of the bombs a few miles off the coast of Tokyo to show them (civilians included) what we were capable of. If they still didn't get it, I'd have dropped one on Tokyo. If that somehow wasn't enough, I'd have bombed the other cities until they capitulated.

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#29 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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That's why wars are bad. Civilians die in every war, I dont know if being shot in the gut and bleeding out over 12 hours is worse than being instantly killed in an atomic blast. Either way, the only way to avoid civilian deaths is to avoid wars.

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LOl America

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LOl America

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That's why wars are bad. Civilians die in every war, I dont know if being shot in the gut and bleeding out over 12 hours is worse than being instantly killed in an atomic blast. Either way, the only way to avoid civilian deaths is to avoid wars.

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Pretty much this. Hindsight is always 20/20, not saying I would totally vilify those who decided to use it.
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Only a sick twisted country would be able to do the damage that had happened that day..

USA.

Still, very sad event.

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Britain and the US had no problem fire bombing Dresden. THat was just as bad.
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[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] Yeah, killing millions of people and leaving health defects that would last for generations was certainly the right movethebest31406

As opposed to what? Trying to invade their country--with leaders who refused to surrender after the first bomb--would have killed more people, on both sides. It was the correct call for that time.

America has invaded and dropped bombs on Indochina, Nacaragua, the Middle East, etc. I suppose that means that if the these areas had the will and the way, dropping atomic bombs on the American people would be totally justified?

Would a land invasion that would cost more Japanese and American people's lives be more justified? Hindsight is always 20/20.
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[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

Only a sick twisted country would be able to do the damage that had happened that day..

USA.

Still, very sad event.

sonicare
Britain and the US had no problem fire bombing Dresden. THat was just as bad.

'cept wartime code of conduct did not include air warfare at the time. So the U.S. and GB trolled their way out of warcrimes. And because winners never lose.
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I'm not sure that there was a "right move" in the situation that the US and Japan were in back then. It was a horrible thing. I would have probably dropped one of the bombs a few miles off the coast of Tokyo to show them (civilians included) what we were capable of. If they still didn't get it, I'd have dropped one on Tokyo. If that somehow wasn't enough, I'd have bombed the other cities until they capitulated.

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Lol. I can bet you our army didn't even think of showing the explosion off to show them what it would do. But if I remember correctly, we didn't truly know what would happen after it went off. The bombings on Japan were pretty much tests if you think about it. Not to mention bombing the ocean would kill all those fish. What did they ever do wrong? :P.
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[QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

Only a sick twisted country would be able to do the damage that had happened that day..

USA.

Still, very sad event.

sonicare

Britain and the US had no problem fire bombing Dresden. THat was just as bad.

i already brought up dresden and essen nobody cares about those crackers.

or unit 731 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

or the bataan death march.http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/bataandeathmarch.htm

or nanking.http://www.nanking-massacre.com/RAPE_OF_NANKING_OR_NANJING_MASSACRE_1937.html

or warsaw.http://ww2memories.wordpress.com/2011/08/30/siege-and-fall-of-warsaw-september-1939/

what we need to take away from this is there was only one group of a$$holes in that fight and we are them.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

Only a sick twisted country would be able to do the damage that had happened that day..

USA.

Still, very sad event.

DroidPhysX
Britain and the US had no problem fire bombing Dresden. THat was just as bad.

'cept wartime code of conduct did not include air warfare at the time. So the U.S. and GB trolled their way out of warcrimes. And because winners never lose.

Pretty much.
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I'm not sure that there was a "right move" in the situation that the US and Japan were in back then. It was a horrible thing. I would have probably dropped one of the bombs a few miles off the coast of Tokyo to show them (civilians included) what we were capable of. If they still didn't get it, I'd have dropped one on Tokyo. If that somehow wasn't enough, I'd have bombed the other cities until they capitulated.

jesuschristmonk

Lol. I can bet you our army didn't even think of showing the explosion off to show them what it would do. But if I remember correctly, we didn't truly know what would happen after it went off. The bombings on Japan were pretty much tests if you think about it. Not to mention bombing the ocean would kill all those fish. What did they ever do wrong? :P.

We did have the Trinity test to show us roughly what to expect. Before that test quite a few thought that it might destroy the whole planet. Others thought it might do nothing. Either way, they had some clue before they bombed Japan.

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why didn't they ask OMD to play their enola gay live?

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[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] Yeah, killing millions of people and leaving health defects that would last for generations was certainly the right movethebest31406

As opposed to what? Trying to invade their country--with leaders who refused to surrender after the first bomb--would have killed more people, on both sides. It was the correct call for that time.

America has invaded and dropped bombs on Indochina, Nacaragua, the Middle East, etc. I suppose that means that if the these areas had the will and the way, dropping atomic bombs on the American people would be totally justified?

If a state of war existed and those countries had the means, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the United States got bombed. Back in WW2, it's not like Japan and Germany didn't have that in mind. If it weren't for Germany having an incredibly stupid leader and Japan lacking crucial tech and materials, they would've rained bombs on the US given the chance.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

Only a sick twisted country would be able to do the damage that had happened that day..

USA.

Still, very sad event.

DroidPhysX

Britain and the US had no problem fire bombing Dresden. THat was just as bad.

'cept wartime code of conduct did not include air warfare at the time. So the U.S. and GB trolled their way out of warcrimes. And because winners never lose.

HomerT.jpg

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[QUOTE="thebest31406"]

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"] As opposed to what? Trying to invade their country--with leaders who refused to surrender after the first bomb--would have killed more people, on both sides. It was the correct call for that time.jun_aka_pekto

America has invaded and dropped bombs on Indochina, Nacaragua, the Middle East, etc. I suppose that means that if the these areas had the will and the way, dropping atomic bombs on the American people would be totally justified?

If a state of war existed and those countries had the means, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the United States got bombed. Back in WW2, it's not like Japan and Germany didn't have that in mind. If it weren't for Germany having an incredibly stupid leader and Japan lacking crucial tech and materials, they would've rained bombs on the US given the chance.

well technically they did bomb oregon. but it was oregon so we didn't really care.

http://www.tactical-life.com/online/exclusives/when-the-japanese-bombed-oregon/

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="sonicare"] Britain and the US had no problem fire bombing Dresden. THat was just as bad. noscope-ak47

'cept wartime code of conduct did not include air warfare at the time. So the U.S. and GB trolled their way out of warcrimes. And because winners never lose.

HomerT.jpg

Brown people in a certain nation called Afghanistan are doing that quite well. How the mighty have fallen.
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[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="ThisIsTwoFace"]

Only a sick twisted country would be able to do the damage that had happened that day..

USA.

Still, very sad event.

DroidPhysX

Britain and the US had no problem fire bombing Dresden. THat was just as bad.

'cept wartime code of conduct did not include air warfare at the time. So the U.S. and GB trolled their way out of warcrimes. And because winners never lose.

It's also because all the major combatants were bombing cities and civilians. I don't recall the Axis powers being jacked up for that either.

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Idiots trying to claim America had any other choice in the matter. We firebombed them to hell, and they wouldn't give up, we dropped a freaking atomic bomb on them and they wouldn't give up. If you think America had any other choice in the matter you are nuts. Two bombs was needed, but only because Japan was impressively stubborn.
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I dunno what the cause was but I think it was a bit too much eh.
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"]

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"] As opposed to what? Trying to invade their country--with leaders who refused to surrender after the first bomb--would have killed more people, on both sides. It was the correct call for that time.jun_aka_pekto

America has invaded and dropped bombs on Indochina, Nacaragua, the Middle East, etc. I suppose that means that if the these areas had the will and the way, dropping atomic bombs on the American people would be totally justified?

If a state of war existed and those countries had the means, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the United States got bombed. Back in WW2, it's not like Japan and Germany didn't have that in mind. If it weren't for Germany having an incredibly stupid leader and Japan lacking crucial tech and materials, they would've rained bombs on the US given the chance.

You guys are talking like this is a C&C game. What possible strategic value could dropping two bombs on japan have besides ending a conflict in a quick hurry and pretty much running the country? Couldn't be because the wanted to save lives; millions died in one boom and they have felt the affects for generations.
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#50 jesuschristmonk
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[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="thebest31406"]

America has invaded and dropped bombs on Indochina, Nacaragua, the Middle East, etc. I suppose that means that if the these areas had the will and the way, dropping atomic bombs on the American people would be totally justified?

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If a state of war existed and those countries had the means, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the United States got bombed. Back in WW2, it's not like Japan and Germany didn't have that in mind. If it weren't for Germany having an incredibly stupid leader and Japan lacking crucial tech and materials, they would've rained bombs on the US given the chance.

well technically they did bomb oregon. but it was oregon so we didn't really care.

http://www.tactical-life.com/online/exclusives/when-the-japanese-bombed-oregon/

Huh. Never heard about that through school (or maybe it just flew through my mind). I wonder why Oregon? Guess they didn't know about New York City? Lol.