How can people believe in global warming?

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] you should not use words you dont know the proper use for. think of unanimous as a true false statement, it must be 100% true or else its falsesurrealnumber5

Way to be pedantic.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

My point is that, even universally accepted theories can be wrong. I just used that one as an example. Here I'll use another one. The classical elemental theory, 100% proven wrong.

Espada12

Semantics much? The fact is, these were all once accepted science and in the end were found to not 100% correct or flat out wrong. How about that Phlogiston theory? Good enough example?

You think the science is wrong? You think that all the peer-reviewed literature is bogus? Prove it.

PannicAtack

Yep people accept it's correct without doing their own, isn't that funny?

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

My point is that, even universally accepted theories can be wrong. I just used that one as an example. Here I'll use another one. The classical elemental theory, 100% proven wrong.

Espada12

Semantics much? The fact is, these were all once accepted science and in the end were found to not 100% correct or flat out wrong. How about that Phlogiston theory? Good enough example?

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

My point is that, even universally accepted theories can be wrong. I just used that one as an example. Here I'll use another one. The classical elemental theory, 100% proven wrong.

Espada12

Semantics much? The fact is, these were all once accepted science and in the end were found to not 100% correct or flat out wrong. How about that Phlogiston theory? Good enough example?

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

You think the science is wrong? You think that all the peer-reviewed literature is bogus? Prove it.

Espada12

Yep people accept it's correct without doing their own, isn't that funny?

Much better example, however the increase in global average temperatures as noted above is not denied by ANY credible source (how could it be? It is flat data) and the only question is whether human activity accounts for it to a significant degree.xaos

Ah ok, I see, thanks for the information!

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"] ...Really? That's your fall back? Modern science can be wrong because classical...I don't even want to call it science really, philosophy was wrong? That is one of the worst arguments I have seen. Crunchy_Nuts

Semantics much? The fact is, these were all once accepted science and in the end were found to not 100% correct or flat out wrong. How about that Phlogiston theory? Good enough example?

No I'm saying that universally accepted theories have been proven WRONG. So saying "well everyone credible says it's true" isn't good enough to believe it.

[QUOTE="T_P_O"]Dearest OT, Please stop feeding Espada12. regards, Sanity.Espada12

Yeah once someone doesn't agree with the majority opinion they are clearly trolling amirite?

Your OP is dire: it demonstrates that you do not know what "global warming" is (and actually, I believe people prefer "climate change"). It displays a rudimentary logic, which whilst being perfectly sound (which OT, doesn't take much work), is left absurd because you have no idea what climate change is and presumably how we measure it. Effectively, you do not make a strawman, you make a man out of arse and rip it to shreds. That is how bad it was.

Believe me, by presuming you to be a rabble-rouser, I'm giving you a better evaluation than someone who would've been seriously making that argument.

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] you should not use words you dont know the proper use for. think of unanimous as a true false statement, it must be 100% true or else its falsesurrealnumber5

Seriously? You lost the original argument and now you're nitpicking wording?

You know....they say that cyanide is poisonous but I haven't verified that. I haven't tested it. I say that's b***s***. In fact, im'ma have a cup of cyanide with dinner tonight.

[QUOTE="Crunchy_Nuts"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

Semantics much? The fact is, these were all once accepted science and in the end were found to not 100% correct or flat out wrong. How about that Phlogiston theory? Good enough example?

Espada12

No I'm saying that universally accepted theories have been proven WRONG. So saying "well everyone credible says it's true" isn't good enough to believe it.

[QUOTE="Crunchy_Nuts"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

Semantics much? The fact is, these were all once accepted science and in the end were found to not 100% correct or flat out wrong. How about that Phlogiston theory? Good enough example?

Espada12

No I'm saying that universally accepted theories have been proven WRONG. So saying "well everyone credible says it's true" isn't good enough to believe it.

[QUOTE="Crunchy_Nuts"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

Semantics much? The fact is, these were all once accepted science and in the end were found to not 100% correct or flat out wrong. How about that Phlogiston theory? Good enough example?

Espada12

No I'm saying that universally accepted theories have been proven WRONG. So saying "well everyone credible says it's true" isn't good enough to believe it.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] Great, keep knit picking while completely avoiding the topic and point at hand. Former_Slacker

Seriously? You lost the original argument and now you're nitpicking wording?

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

You think the science is wrong? You think that all the peer-reviewed literature is bogus? Prove it.

Espada12

Yep people accept it's correct without doing their own, isn't that funny?

Please go to school.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

You think the science is wrong? You think that all the peer-reviewed literature is bogus? Prove it.

Former_Slacker

Yep people accept it's correct without doing their own, isn't that funny?

Please go to school.

Are you implying I'm stupid?

It's an invention so people have an excuse to lay more tax on the people, carbon tax? What a joke.MushroomWig

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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Yep people accept it's correct without doing their own, isn't that funny?

Espada12

Please go to school.

Are you implying I'm stupid?

You know....they say that cyanide is poisonous but I haven't verified that. I haven't tested it. I say that's b***s***. In fact, im'ma have a cup of cyanide with dinner tonight.

worlock77

I hear it goes great with high concentration of HCl.

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] my point was your misuse of a word just accept it is not unanimous and we will be done heresurrealnumber5

Seriously? You lost the original argument and now you're nitpicking wording?

CC being debatable within the scientific community, I think.

It's an invention so people have an excuse to lay more tax on the people, carbon tax? What a joke.MushroomWig

What proof do you have that it is an invention?

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Crunchy_Nuts"] So you're saying that the fact that science tries to improve and update itself is a bad thing?xaos

No I'm saying that universally accepted theories have been proven WRONG. So saying "well everyone credible says it's true" isn't good enough to believe it.

I understand that, however all I'm saying is just because it's universally accepted doesn't make it 100% correct.

[QUOTE="Former_Slacker"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Yep people accept it's correct without doing their own, isn't that funny?

Espada12

Please go to school.

Are you implying I'm stupid?

I'm implying that, based off of your previous post, you don't have a fundamental understanding of science and need to learn it.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="Former_Slacker"]

Seriously? You lost the original argument and now you're nitpicking wording?

CC being debatable within the scientific community, I think.

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

No I'm saying that universally accepted theories have been proven WRONG. So saying "well everyone credible says it's true" isn't good enough to believe it.

Espada12

I understand that, however all I'm saying is just because it's universally accepted doesn't make it 100% correct.

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

No I'm saying that universally accepted theories have been proven WRONG. So saying "well everyone credible says it's true" isn't good enough to believe it.

Espada12

I understand that, however all I'm saying is just because it's universally accepted doesn't make it 100% correct.

That is the point of science.

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[QUOTE="xaos"] It's reason to take it very seriously, however. Peer-reviewed data is as close to "truth" as you generally get in science. If we held off on developing theories and building applications because a theory might someday be refined, people would probably still be discussing whether or not fire or the wheel were good ideas, or if we should hold off using them until we had flying cars.Ace6301

I understand that, however all I'm saying is just because it's universally accepted doesn't make it 100% correct.

Math is the only absolute.

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

No I'm saying that universally accepted theories have been proven WRONG. So saying "well everyone credible says it's true" isn't good enough to believe it.

Espada12

I understand that, however all I'm saying is just because it's universally accepted doesn't make it 100% correct.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

I understand that, however all I'm saying is just because it's universally accepted doesn't make it 100% correct.

Former_Slacker

Math is the only absolute.

Because it's a real, natural occurrence that happens on earth.

no_more_fayth

If you're looking for 100% fact in anything I don't think you will find it. Ace6301

Math is the only absolute.

Math is the only absolute.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] Even math can get kind of screwy after a certain point. xaos

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] math is a man made tool, that is why stats can be made for just about any argument out theresurrealnumber5

Because it's a real, natural occurrence that happens on earth.

no_more_fayth

It's backed up by good science. It isn't a matter of whether or not you "believe" it happens or not. Global warming is happening whether you believe in it or not. It's not a mindset, it's a fact.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="xaos"] Actually, whether math is discovered or constructed is a pretty contentious point in the philosophy of math.xaos

Me either, but it's a hobby of my bf's (one of many reasons I love him), and I've picked up a bit of it from conversations with him.xaos

[QUOTE="xaos"] Me either, but it's a hobby of my bf's (one of many reasons I love him), and I've picked up a bit of it from conversations with him.Engrish_Major

Could it be that there is a vast amount of scientific evidence that it is going on?

Typing climate change or global warming into any database of scientific journals will yield thousands, if not tens of thousands, of peer reviewed papers in support of the theory of climate change.

I believe it's a naturally occuring climate change that's been accelerated by man.

Just don't call it man-made.

Global Warming is a load of s*** I don't care what anyone says

Just don't call it man-made.

KH-mixerX

Just don't call it man-made.

KH-mixerX

What evidence do you have that makes it so one can think it is man-made?

Global Warming is a load of s*** I don't care what anyone says

gibson-les-rick

And what evidence do you have that it is a load of ****