How can you be pro 6@y and anti incest...?..

yeah because condoms are the answers, thats why undesired pregnancy is practically nonexistant.

Krelian-co

incest does not harm people?

do you even know what happens when people of the same family have a kid?

Krelian-co

GS blocks it because it used to block it a long time ago and they just haven't bothered to change it.juden41

[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="Laihendi"]So something is immoral and unethical because it's abnormal? Is being left handed unethical and immoral too?l4dak47

Something that is psychologically in the bounds of normal living. Incest is something that is corrupt and genetically disgusting.

I'd like to take it a step further and say that you can't be pro-gay and anti-free market at the same time either. If you want to be consistent about the idea of consensual contracts between two or more parties then you would have to recognize that the free market is made up of nothing but consensual contracts between parties. If one party or the other forces themself upon the other by lying or using threat of force then it isn't consensual which means it is no longer the free market (thats why I think a purely free market without governmental judiciary system is just as unlikely as pure communism, it requires the consent of all). We need to work at getting as close as we can to this ideal of the perfectly consensual society. I don't think we can achieve perfection, but we can sure try to get close.

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="champion837"] No, because it is a natural thing.champion837

Something that is psychologically in the bounds of normal living. Incest is something that is corrupt and genetically disgusting.

Both are consensual acts that dont harm outside persons

mingmao3046

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="champion837"] No, because it is a natural thing.champion837

Something that is psychologically in the bounds of normal living. Incest is something that is corrupt and genetically disgusting.

[QUOTE="champion837"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] Okay, okay. What is your definition of natural? l4dak47

Something that is psychologically in the bounds of normal living. Incest is something that is corrupt and genetically disgusting.

[QUOTE="champion837"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] Okay, okay. What is your definition of natural? Laihendi

Something that is psychologically in the bounds of normal living. Incest is something that is corrupt and genetically disgusting.

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="champion837"] champion837

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="champion837"]

Something that is psychologically in the bounds of normal living. Incest is something that is corrupt and genetically disgusting.

champion837

How does one go about being pro-gay or pro-incest. Are we talking rallies?

[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] What does nature have to do with good/bad?Laihendi

I support gay rights, but I'm not "pro gay I think being gay is wrong yes, I do not hate them, it's just a life style I disagree with. But I support their right to live in safety and free from discrimination.

Incest is just disgusting and it should be completely illegal. Lock them all up and throw away the key, or just kill them, sick fvcks like that have no place in society. OT disagrees but this is because OT is full of sick people who live small lives and not in reality. This is a fringe community really.

Why is it important? Do I really have to play the role of Socratic interrogator for you? Can't you ask these questions yourself?Laihendi

They're two different things, so you can be for one and against the other. It reminds me of the old "how can conservatives be pro-life yet support the death penalty" argument.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]Why is it important? Do I really have to play the role of Socratic interrogator for you? Can't you ask these questions yourself?champion837

I support gay rights, but I'm not "pro gay I think being gay is wrong yes, I do not hate them, it's just a life style I disagree with. But I support their right to live in safety and free from discrimination.

Incest is just disgusting and it should be completely illegal. Lock them all up and throw away the key, or just kill them, sick fvcks like that have no place in society. OT disagrees but this is because OT is full of sick people who live small lives and not in reality. This is a fringe community really.

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I support gay rights, but I'm not "pro gay I think being gay is wrong yes, I do not hate them, it's just a life style I disagree with. But I support their right to live in safety and free from discrimination.

Incest is just disgusting and it should be completely illegal. Lock them all up and throw away the key, or just kill them, sick fvcks like that have no place in society. OT disagrees but this is because OT is full of sick people who live small lives and not in reality. This is a fringe community really.

Aljosa23

It is self explanatory.

Every straight person disagrees with it to when they get down to it, if you were to be completely honest with yourself you would agree with me.

It is self explanatory.

Every straight person disagrees with it to when they get down to it, if you were to be completely honest with yourself you would agree with me.

ShadowMoses900

Incest is just disgusting and it should be completely illegal. Lock them all up and throw away the key, or just kill them, sick fvcks like that have no place in society. OT disagrees but this is because OT is full of sick people who live small lives and not in reality. This is a fringe community really.ShadowMoses900

Anyways, you think that people should be killed because they do something that you think is gross? Perhaps we should execute people who pick their noses too.

Incest between any two people over the age of consent, or in parent/offspring's case, the younger side over age of majority. There should be no legal limitation on whether they can have sex. They should be able to consent to sex, the possibility of them producing problematic children is irrelevant.

* There are not that many people in incestual relations to begin with, making it legal will not lead to an explosion of people commit to incestual relations.

* Just because its illegal, does not mean they would not have sex, making it legal will not lead to a incestual baby boom, so our current health care system will not be burdened.

* Discouraging them from having children by providing knowledge of contraceptions, and the knowledge of the greater possibility of having disordered offsprings.

* People should not be banned from doing something legal (sex) for the possibility of something happening (having genetically defect children)

* We are living in a ever evolving world toward a more tolerant and understanding society, incest remaining illegal is not in the best interest of that.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="champion837"] "Ickiness"? No, it is a very unethical and unnatural thing to do.champion837

From a evolutionary point of view, you'd find a hard time to explain the selection for incestual urges, but then again, there are so many things that doesn't fit the perfect evolutionary framework, all there is to blame really, is our lack of understanding in nature

If something is a product of nature, I consider it natural, incestual relations exist, some people are attracted to relatives, that is a fact, that I accept as something naturally occuring.

Probably already said, but there sure are a lot of sibling lovers in here.

Personally I don't care as long as I don't know. If you live next door to me proudly displaying your incesty ways, there is no question you will be talked about behnd your back and a constant "Ewww" look on my face when in front of you.

No matter whether incest is natural/unnatural/illegal/legal, it's straight up icky.

It reminds me of another natural occurence - maggots crawling all over some rancid meat. Natural but icky & puke worthy

Also, incest gets a bad rap because a lot of the times it's connected to child molestation, exploitation, and a lot of nasty stuff.

Aljosa23

easy, they have to be over age of consent (like everyone else)

For parents/ children, the children must be adult and and even exploitation exist , it would be consentual exploitation between adults, fair is fair right?

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It is self explanatory.

Every straight person disagrees with it to when they get down to it, if you were to be completely honest with yourself you would agree with me.

Aljosa23

Having sex with the same gender, having anal sex with men, wearing women's clothing if your a guy etc....I disagree with all of that, that is the gay life style. I don't think it's right to be gay if they wish to live their lives that way that's their business, doesn't mean I have to agree with it.

Like smoking, I disagree with that lifestyle too. I don't think smoking is healthy, I don't think it's right. But just like my view on gay people, I support their right to do what they want with their lives and live in peae without discrimination.

I'm not a bigot either. So don't call me one.

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"]

Both are consensual acts that dont harm outside persons

Seraphy-

Anyone has a chance of producing **** up babies, yes their chances are much greater, but children born from projects are more far far far more likely to become criminals, should they be stopped from having babies? and you also can make an argument that homosexuality spread more STD and HIV as well, should they stopped from loving each other? so that argument doesn't even work too well.

Here is an argument that works well:

Making incest legal will not cause a sudden explosion of incestual relationship, nor will it lead to a incestual baby boom, because if they are to have unprotected sex, they're not going to stop either way. Might as well legally sex between consenting adults (which is legal already), and focus on discouraging incestual couples from having children by providing knowledge about their social responsibility, the chance of birth defect and of course, contraceptions. Make it legal.

Having sex with the same gender, having anal sex with men, wearing women's clothing if your a guy etc....I disagree with all of that, that is the gay life style. I don't think it's right to be gay if they wish to live their lives that way that's their business, doesn't mean I have to agree with it.

Like smoking, I disagree with that lifestyle too. I don't think smoking is healthy, I don't think it's right. But just like my view on gay people, I support their right to do what they want with their lives and live in peae without discrimination.

I'm not a bigot either. So don't call me one.

ShadowMoses900

Incest harms any potentional offspring. Homosexuality harms no one. This topic is stupid.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It is self explanatory.

Every straight person disagrees with it to when they get down to it, if you were to be completely honest with yourself you would agree with me.

ShadowMoses900

Having sex with the same gender, having anal sex with men, wearing women's clothing if your a guy etc....I disagree with all of that, that is the gay life style. I don't think it's right to be gay if they wish to live their lives that way that's their business, doesn't mean I have to agree with it.

Like smoking, I disagree with that lifestyle too. I don't think smoking is healthy, I don't think it's right. But just like my view on gay people, I support their right to do what they want with their lives and live in peae without discrimination.

I'm not a bigot either. So don't call me one.

OP wants to bang his fatherCandy-Star

Pretty easily.

I support gay rights, but I'm not "pro gay I think being gay is wrong yes, I do not hate them, it's just a life style I disagree with. But I support their right to live in safety and free from discrimination.

Incest is just disgusting and it should be completely illegal. Lock them all up and throw away the key, or just kill them, sick fvcks like that have no place in society. OT disagrees but this is because OT is full of sick people who live small lives and not in reality. This is a fringe community really.

ShadowMoses900

ITT: Crazy man advocates mass imprisonment and homicide on a group of people because he doesn't like them, accuses other people of being "sick" and/or unrealistic.

Having sex with the same gender, having anal sex with men, wearing women's clothing if your a guy etc....I disagree with all of that, that is the gay life style.

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I support gay rights, but I'm not "pro gay I think being gay is wrong yes, I do not hate them, it's just a life style I disagree with. But I support their right to live in safety and free from discrimination.

Incest is just disgusting and it should be completely illegal. Lock them all up and throw away the key, or just kill them, sick fvcks like that have no place in society. OT disagrees but this is because OT is full of sick people who live small lives and not in reality. This is a fringe community really.

Barbariser

ITT: Crazy man advocates mass imprisonment and homicide on a group of people because he doesn't like them, accuses other people of being "sick" and/or unrealistic.

cause incest causes genetic disorders.

God damn you're stupid.

If you want to bang your sister, who is stopping you? And I find you clumping incest and being gay together to be offensive and ignorant. TheWalkingGhost

Incest increases the likelihood of dangerous genetic defects in offspring. Homosexual sex results in no offspring.

When corrective genetic modification in the womb becomes universal, I'll stop being against incest.

Lol,wtf is this?

Homosexuality & incest are both pretty normal practices.

If you think not,you're just brainwashed by society.