how come racisism towards the white race doesn't exist?

[QUOTE="theharlemshake"][QUOTE="megahaloman64"]

If a black guy says something about the white race, it's not racisist, but if a white guy does the same thing except with a different race, it is considered racist.

AirGuitarist87

[QUOTE="finesse-gamer"]

[QUOTE="coltsfan4ever"]

There's alot of racism towards the white race. Just watch The Boondocks or Chappelle's Show.lol

coltsfan4ever

I really can't stand that show...

it has some pretty prejudice undertones that I don't appreciate. It may just be the one characters dialogue, or the attitude of the actual writers... IDK but it still irks me to see such a ridiculously one-sided view on things.

it's almost as bad as movies where the one black character is always the stereotypical gangsta-silly-comic relief guy.

I feel that I have to prove to non-whites all the time, that I am not racist.

i've noticed this. White's accept it. For example Blacks call whites crackers sometimes and Whites don't care but if you say. (sorry if this is bad mods) "the n word" then Blacks will get mad. It's just that whites think they are superior and when someone puts their race down they ignore it thinking they are just jealous.Link334

Most ignore it due to two reasons, first and formost we don't care to talk back because then we'd be the bad guy, secondly we actually think they're justified to do so due to the oppression in the past.

[QUOTE="coltsfan4ever"]

[QUOTE="finesse-gamer"]

I really can't stand that show...

tbone29

[QUOTE="finesse-gamer"]

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"] I think "African-American" is more of a racist term. You're assuming all black people come from Africa. Ideally people wouldn't be tiptoeing around each other like this.AirGuitarist87

it's not racist, it's just ignorant. It's not like the term "African-American" is an insult...

because cracker and the n-word have deeper meanings that are offensive.

do you find it appropriate to call someone who is MH something offensive just because it's a way to describe them? I hope not.

because throught history the white culture has crossed the line wayy to many time u know what iam talking about

Rape pillage and destory plus in slave other races ... we have a right to say stuff at least LOL

[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]there is plenty of racism for the white race, everyone just thinks its justified.finesse-gamer

it's ridiculous.

I would love for someone who thinks whites of today are responsiple for slavery to try and prove that my ancestors supported slavery.

for all they know my ancestors came from europe after slavery ended. even IF they did support slavery, I'm still not responsiple, at all.

Everyone should watch the episode of Penn & Teller BS that talks about this issue.

because throught history the white culture has crossed the line wayy to many time u know what iam talking about

Rape pillage and destory plus in slave other races ... we have a right to say stuff at least LOL

Norg

you must say the same about islamic human trafficers too right? because they are guilty of WAY more blacks being enslaved and are STILL doing it.

(not all muslims are guilty of this BTW)

Funny. Blacks call eacother the "n" word to eachother and to other people like its just saying the word "sup". I dont understand it not one bit. They were put down by that word so much and now they're using it like it didnt even matter.MetaKnight50

I think they are entitled. It's kind of like they are turning an insult into a casual word in order to parody the people who originally used the term against them.

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="finesse-gamer"]

it's not racist, it's just ignorant. It's not like the term "African-American" is an insult...

finesse-gamer

because cracker and the n-word have deeper meanings that are offensive.

do you find it appropriate to call someone who is MH something offensive just because it's a way to describe them? I hope not.

It does exist, it's just not acknowledged because apparently white people were never 'discriminated against' in history like black people, asians (I say this collectively, because often people mistake one group for another or just group them together), natives etc.XilePrincess

Not true. Slavery in the Arab world continued until the 1900's, with white people making up a good percentage of those slaves.

[QUOTE="tbone29"][QUOTE="coltsfan4ever"]Why?

airg6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc2FCJ7zWEQ i rest my case.

[QUOTE="MetaKnight50"]Funny. Blacks call eacother the "n" word to eachother and to other people like its just saying the word "sup". I dont understand it not one bit. They were put down by that word so much and now they're using it like it didnt even matter.finesse-gamer

I think they are entitled. It's kind of like they are turning an insult into a casual word in order to parody the people who originally used the term against them.

[QUOTE="coltsfan4ever"]

[QUOTE="finesse-gamer"]

I really can't stand that show...

finesse-gamer

it has some pretty prejudice undertones that I don't appreciate. It may just be the one characters dialogue, or the attitude of the actual writers... IDK but it still irks me to see such a ridiculously one-sided view on things.

it's almost as bad as movies where the one black character is always the stereotypical gangsta-silly-comic relief guy.

[QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="tbone29"] Or a more significant question to me, how do either of those shows demonstrate racism towards the white race? coltsfan4ever

[QUOTE="Link334"]i've noticed this. White's accept it. For example Blacks call whites crackers sometimes and Whites don't care but if you say. (sorry if this is bad mods) "the n word" then Blacks will get mad. It's just that whites think they are superior and when someone puts their race down they ignore it thinking they are just jealous.Treflis

Most ignore it due to two reasons, first and formost we don't care to talk back because then we'd be the bad guy, secondly we actually think they're justified to do so due to the oppression in the past.

I don't think it's justified...I had no part in it. Neither did my ancestors. Most people in the U.S. are ancestors of immigrants. Very, very, very few people's ancestors actually had slaves. And still, it means nothing. It wasn't them. They had no control over what they're ancestors did. They are their own persons...

Let's not forget that blacks from Africa sold their own people from their tribe to white slave traders...

[QUOTE="Treflis"]

[QUOTE="Link334"]i've noticed this. White's accept it. For example Blacks call whites crackers sometimes and Whites don't care but if you say. (sorry if this is bad mods) "the n word" then Blacks will get mad. It's just that whites think they are superior and when someone puts their race down they ignore it thinking they are just jealous.trix5817

Most ignore it due to two reasons, first and formost we don't care to talk back because then we'd be the bad guy, secondly we actually think they're justified to do so due to the oppression in the past.

I don't think it's justified...I had no part in it. Neither did my ancestors. Most people in the U.S. are ancestors of immigrants. Very, very, very few people's ancestors actually had slaves. And still, it means nothing. It wasn't them. They had no control over what they're ancestors did. They are their own persons...

Let's not forget that blacks from Africa sold their own people from their tribe to white slave traders...

and more recently, the Rwandan Genocide. Like I posted above, no group of people is innocent of racism and from bloodshed.

I'm going to be really, really honest here with my response, and it may sound REALLY rascist but hey, that's the subject matter, isn't it?

Whenever someone of another race tries to put me down by calling me a 'cracker' or 'snowflake' or what have you, all I can help to think to this is, 'Well yeah, you're right, I am white. Am I supposed to be offended?'

I don't see anything to be offended about when someone calls me a racial name, I'm proud of my ethnicity and can only laugh when someone tries putting me down for it because they're so insecure about THEIR own ethnicity.

Have some self pride in yourself.

Tim_Q

Please read the page below. If you don't like wikipedia you can search for the term using google or whatever search engine you prefer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism

Now that you've read that I'm going to let you in on a big secret... everybody is racist. No human is immune from having prejudices against different groups of people for different reasons.

The central problem with all concepts of racism is that most people don't want to address the fact that the human species is geneticly engineered towards this behavior. I really don't understand where questions like "how come racisism towards the white race doesn't exist?" even come about. Obivously that' question isn't valid because it's fairly presumptive.

[QUOTE="finesse-gamer"]

[QUOTE="coltsfan4ever"]Why?

coltsfan4ever

it has some pretty prejudice undertones that I don't appreciate. It may just be the one characters dialogue, or the attitude of the actual writers... IDK but it still irks me to see such a ridiculously one-sided view on things.

it's almost as bad as movies where the one black character is always the stereotypical gangsta-silly-comic relief guy.

Please read the page below. If you don't like wikipedia you can search for the term using google or whatever search engine you prefer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism

Now that you've read that I'm going to let you in on a big secret... everybody is racist. No human is immune from having prejudices against different groups of people for different reasons.

The central problem with all concepts of racism is that most people don't want to address the fact that the human species is geneticly engineered towards this behavior. I really don't understand where questions like "how come racisism towards the white race doesn't exist?" even come about. Obivously that' question isn't valid because it's fairly presumptive.

EMOEVOLUTION

Being racist and being prejudice are two different things...Everyone is prejudice, but everyone is not racist.

If a black guy says something about the white race, it's not racisist, but if a white guy does the same thing except with a different race, it is considered racist.

megahaloman64

Because people don't see that apart of the ultimate form of racism as other cultures only think "white" people are racist.

It is also because black slavery was the recent form of slavery and America (being a media hub) has popularized it. Disregarding the fact that other cultures have had slaves long before that. Not to mention, other races were (some still are) more hateful against races that weren't their own.

It's because it's "popular". I'm of mixed race myself and that's all I see on all sides. Nobody talks about the Chinese hating everyone who isn't Chinese, or hating the Japanese. (for example)

Though, Hitler's warped vision of the Blond haired, blue eyed German (aka Super Race) being "descendants of Atlantis" didn't help either.

People just use the "race card" only to their benefit. When they have something to gain and point the finger at someone else. I think a lot of people are just equally stupid and just need to get over themselves.

[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]It does exist, it's just not acknowledged because apparently white people were never 'discriminated against' in history like black people, asians (I say this collectively, because often people mistake one group for another or just group them together), natives etc.br0kenrabbit

Not true. Slavery in the Arab world continued until the 1900's, with white people making up a good percentage of those slaves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_modern_Africa

it still happens in africa and other parts of the world, although it may be legally abolished.

and who do you think sold the slaves to the whites?

[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]It does exist, it's just not acknowledged because apparently white people were never 'discriminated against' in history like black people, asians (I say this collectively, because often people mistake one group for another or just group them together), natives etc.br0kenrabbit

Not true. Slavery in the Arab world continued until the 1900's, with white people making up a good percentage of those slaves.

I'll add my two cents here. and please take the time to read this because i believe this will add value to the conversation.

1. I do believe there is a lot of distrust (though i haven't seen or heard outright racism towards whites) that blacks have towards whites.

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2. The reason i believe why whites don't get all offended when someone calls em' a cracker, is complex and yet at the very same time simple. the caucasion race has done conquer and conquest of places across the world. slavery in America, the complete destruction of the Aztecs by the Conquistadors. the nation of Zimbabwe for a time was called Rhodesia. Rhodesia named after a white British empire-builder Cecil Rhodes. Think about that for a second....

the audacity to rename an ancient land inhabited by Africans for tens of thousands of years, and just because of sheer military force, the entire region is renamed by a guy who comes from a little island in the north.

Time and again, in history, caucausions have been dominant. this is the same crap that neo-nazi racists point to. it doesn't mean the white race IS superior, it is merely that the white race based in Europe had a leg up on the other races on the globe.

Sad to say this, but things like food, sex, and things like identity come from the far more primitive parts of our minds. might makes right. whites do not have the history of struggle for equality or freedom. they had a struggle of conquest and colonization. Africans, Native Americans, Asians, Indians, Hispanics, and many others had to fight for their equality from one singular race - caucasion.

when you have to do that...... the slur of the n word, chink and the other awful words carry weight. it demeans a person. it makes you less then human. I remember hearing my grandpa (i'm half White and half Arab) telling me to be careful and not get involved with black girls. I just nod and say "ok Grandpa". he had nothing against blacks in terms of working with them, just didn't like them mixing. That says that there is something wrong about the other race, that they cannot mix. it's old thinking.

Put yourself in that culture, detach yourself from your ethnocentric views and you begin to really understand why other races feel the way they do about whites.

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3. HOWEVER, i have warned my friends of other races - Arabs, Jews, Blacks, and the more narrow minded white friends, to not just blame one or the other just because of your own impressions. I have personally met about 6 Brazilians in my life, each one has been a jerk to me in one way or another, that doesn't mean i view Brazilians as being just jerks. I remember telling this story to a couple of my caucasion friends - when the subject of race relations came up - and i still remember my one friends impulse answer was "just most Brazilians are jerks" i responded quickly with "no, i just have had bad luck, haven't met the right people. people are people no matter where they may come from".

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4. I remember my one friend - who is a dyed in the red Republican - who couldn't wrap his mind around why the election of Obama was such a big deal. I had to turn around to him and ask "when was there a white guy elected to the Presidency?", he'd shrug and say "so what?". From slavery to Presidency. this would be like if an Arab Muslim got elected in France or Israel, of if a Hmong became a leader of Vietnam or Laos. it is unheard of.

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Not saying its right. wrong is wrong no matter who does it or says it.

but detach yourself once in a while and view it from their point of view.

it'll do you a lot of good.

[QUOTE="finesse-gamer"]

[QUOTE="coltsfan4ever"]Why?

coltsfan4ever

it has some pretty prejudice undertones that I don't appreciate. It may just be the one characters dialogue, or the attitude of the actual writers... IDK but it still irks me to see such a ridiculously one-sided view on things.

it's almost as bad as movies where the one black character is always the stereotypical gangsta-silly-comic relief guy.

your probably right... I saw like one episode and made my judgement based on that, so maybe I am just pre-judgmental. lol

I still don't like it though, just because it's annoying.

[QUOTE="tbone29"][QUOTE="coltsfan4ever"]Why?

airg6

The best thing about Dave Chappelle, though, was that while he made fun of white people, he was also willing to look at the stereotypes given to black people and make fun of them to show how ridiculous they were.

It's a shame he quit when he did.

[QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="tbone29"] Or a more significant question to me, how do either of those shows demonstrate racism towards the white race? matisrock

The best thing about Dave Chappelle, though, was that while he made fun of white people, he was also willing to look at the stereotypes given to black people and make fun of them to show how ridiculous they were.

It's a shame he quit when he did.

Thing he said.Omni-Slash

Wow. You are very wrong. I went to a school where African Americans outnumbered everyone else 3:1, and I recieved racist comments every day. I can't repeat most things here over fear of getting modded, but I can say that they got pretty bad.

I do not tolerate racism coming from anybody about any race. It pisses me off. It's all ignorance, and nothing else.

There's alot of racism towards the white race. Just watch The Boondocks or Chappelle's Show.lol

coltsfan4ever

honestly i feel zero sympathy when a white person is discriminated against. sorry (not really). maybe if whites were not so brutal and vicious with their racism in the past the effects would not still linger today. we still have a long ways to go before people get over race as an issuedarkmagician06

all that can be done now is for everyone to forgive everyone else and move on. if not, we're not getting anywhere.

I'll add my two cents here. and please take the time to read this because i believe this will add value to the conversation.

1. I do believe there is a lot of distrust (though i haven't seen or heard outright racism towards whites) that blacks have towards whites.

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2. The reason i believe why whites don't get all offended when someone calls em' a cracker, is complex and yet at the very same time simple. the caucasion race has done conquer and conquest of places across the world. slavery in America, the complete destruction of the Aztecs by the Conquistadors. the nation of Zimbabwe for a time was called Rhodesia. Rhodesia named after a white British empire-builder Cecil Rhodes. Think about that for a second....

the audacity to rename an ancient land inhabited by Africans for tens of thousands of years, and just because of sheer military force, the entire region is renamed by a guy who comes from a little island in the north.

Time and again, in history, caucausions have been dominant. this is the same crap that neo-nazi racists point to. it doesn't mean the white race IS superior, it is merely that the white race based in Europe had a leg up on the other races on the globe.

Sad to say this, but things like food, sex, and things like identity come from the far more primitive parts of our minds. might makes right. whites do not have the history of struggle for equality or freedom. they had a struggle of conquest and colonization. Africans, Native Americans, Asians, Indians, Hispanics, and many others had to fight for their equality from one singular race - caucasion.

when you have to do that...... the slur of the n word, chink and the other awful words carry weight. it demeans a person. it makes you less then human. I remember hearing my grandpa (i'm half White and half Arab) telling me to be careful and not get involved with black girls. I just nod and say "ok Grandpa". he had nothing against blacks in terms of working with them, just didn't like them mixing. That says that there is something wrong about the other race, that they cannot mix. it's old thinking.

Put yourself in that culture, detach yourself from your ethnocentric views and you begin to really understand why other races feel the way they do about whites.

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3. HOWEVER, i have warned my friends of other races - Arabs, Jews, Blacks, and the more narrow minded white friends, to not just blame one or the other just because of your own impressions. I have personally met about 6 Brazilians in my life, each one has been a jerk to me in one way or another, that doesn't mean i view Brazilians as being just jerks. I remember telling this story to a couple of my caucasion friends - when the subject of race relations came up - and i still remember my one friends impulse answer was "just most Brazilians are jerks" i responded quickly with "no, i just have had bad luck, haven't met the right people. people are people no matter where they may come from".

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4. I remember my one friend - who is a dyed in the red Republican - who couldn't wrap his mind around why the election of Obama was such a big deal. I had to turn around to him and ask "when was there a white guy elected to the Presidency?", he'd shrug and say "so what?". From slavery to Presidency. this would be like if an Arab Muslim got elected in France or Israel, of if a Hmong became a leader of Vietnam or Laos. it is unheard of.

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Not saying its right. wrong is wrong no matter who does it or says it.

but detach yourself once in a while and view it from their point of view.

it'll do you a lot of good.

Its like calling the schoolyard bully a jerk. You don't get in trouble for that. And don't give me any of this "but I'm not racist, so I shouldn't be guilty of racism" because the truth is racism isn't a personal evil, but a societal evil. Our white society has not yet fully repented, and the black communities (and other minorities) have not yet forgiven them. Acemaster27

define "white society"....

I'm pretty sure I don't live in it.

and why would i repent for something that I don't even know if my ancestors supported?

I guess it's because the white people treated other races so bad that they desereve it. That's my opinion....

[QUOTE="Acemaster27"]Its like calling the schoolyard bully a jerk. You don't get in trouble for that. And don't give me any of this "but I'm not racist, so I shouldn't be guilty of racism" because the truth is racism isn't a personal evil, but a societal evil. Our white society has not yet fully repented, and the black communities (and other minorities) have not yet forgiven them. finesse-gamer

define "white society"....

I'm pretty sure I don't live in it.

and why would i repent for something that I don't even know if my ancestors supported?

I guess it's because the white people treated other races so bad that they desereve it. That's my opinion....

Ikouze

so racism against whites doesn't exist because they deserve it?

that's sort of a paradox.

I guess it's because the white people treated other races so bad that they desereve it. That's my opinion....

Ikouze

You realise how ridiculous that statement is don't you? That only holds any sort of validity if white nations hadn't waged war against each other as well. Seriously this topic is driving me up the wall...

I guess it's because the white people treated other races so bad that they desereve it. That's my opinion....

Ikouze

[QUOTE="Ikouze"]

I guess it's because the white people treated other races so bad that they desereve it. That's my opinion....

D3nnyCrane

You realise how ridiculous that statement is don't you? That only holds any sort of validity if white nations hadn't waged war against each other as well. Seriously this topic is driving me up the wall...

[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]

[QUOTE="Ikouze"]

I guess it's because the white people treated other races so bad that they desereve it. That's my opinion....

tbone29

You realise how ridiculous that statement is don't you? That only holds any sort of validity if white nations hadn't waged war against each other as well. Seriously this topic is driving me up the wall...

2. the caucasion race has done conquer and conquest of places across the world.

SaudiFury

You can blame religion for that arguement. The "crusades" or "Christian assimulation". "My god is better than your god". They just happened to be caucasion and later took that as apart of their "superiority complex" claiming everything else "savage" or "un-god like".

Though to add to that, I say that religion itself is the ultimate form of racism and gave way to it's true origins. Because from what was documented, some areas of the world in ancient times, it seemed people didn't care about the colour of your skin at all. But the religions that ruled for so long, changed all of that.

Some people don't even know why they hate certain races so much. Because they were brainwashed to do so.