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The way I see it, it's a lot better than an eternal afterlife. The fact that life is finite makes living so much more meaningful to me. -Sun_Tzu-I think I would prefere an afterlife actually, I like living.
Yeah, but I don't, so I'm going to hell right?Only God can judge.You'd think He would judge me very poorly for being atheist and all that.[QUOTE="Lord_Omikron666"][QUOTE="darkhadou"] No you don't actually. You have to believe in ChristCrocodileNuts
[QUOTE="ADF_Game"][QUOTE="darkhadou"]Well the book of Ezekiel, the book of Daniel, and the book of Revelation have a description of God, and I can tell you it ain't no pink Elephant! :-)darkhadou
And those books are correct because...? Regardless of what you claim; someone else will have just as much faith in some other book.
You do have to wonder why religious people don't see how silly their arguments are at times. We are at the peak of technological advancement and understanding of the universe we live in throughout the entire of human history; but some desert tribe in the bronze age new the secrets to the universe, despite lacking even basic understanding of the world around them.
I believe it because they are the words of the true God given to men! Let me ask you something. How was the universe formed? And before you answer that, I would point out to you that there are "Atheist Scientists" who study the Universe for a living, and have proclaimed that "There has to be being that created it" because of how all the galaxies exist in perfect and uniform harmony Extraordinary claim require extraordinary evidence. Can you provide any reliable source for that?[QUOTE="darkhadou"]
Guys, observe this example. If you were blind and living in a cave, does it mean the Sun doesn't exist? Or does the Sun exist regardless of your condition here on Earth?
My point is that it doesn't matter what your backgroud or nationality is. The truth is that there is an Almighty God, and His Word can be read in the bible. And the Word applies to every one of us regardless if you're atheist, muslim, hindu, or christian.
There's a flaw in your example. Even if you're blind and living in a cae, it can still be proven that the sun exists. You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!! The bible declares that "The heavens (i.e space/galaxy) declare the glory of God, and the skies show the work of His hands" meaning if you are stuck in some jungle in Mumbala or you are technonlogically advanced as we are to be able to explore space, just observing the galaxies should be proof enough that an Almighty God exists!!!I think I would prefere an afterlife actually, I like living.Same here. If it was possible, I'd like to live forever.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]The way I see it, it's a lot better than an eternal afterlife. The fact that life is finite makes living so much more meaningful to me. racer8dan
By living life instead of worrying about death? :|spazzx625This. When people speak about religion I just don't see why they can't live life.
[QUOTE="racer8dan"]I think I would prefere an afterlife actually, I like living.Same here. If it was possible, I'd like to live forever.Of course, I would like to live forever in my prime, not a 356 year old man falling apart;)[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]The way I see it, it's a lot better than an eternal afterlife. The fact that life is finite makes living so much more meaningful to me. CrocodileNuts
Yeah, but I don't, so I'm going to hell right?Lord_Omikron666Only God can judge.You'd think He would judge me very poorly for being atheist and all that. He will judge you for not believeing in Him, despite all the literature about Him all over the world.
[QUOTE="darkhadou"][QUOTE="ADF_Game"]
And those books are correct because...? Regardless of what you claim; someone else will have just as much faith in some other book.
You do have to wonder why religious people don't see how silly their arguments are at times. We are at the peak of technological advancement and understanding of the universe we live in throughout the entire of human history; but some desert tribe in the bronze age new the secrets to the universe, despite lacking even basic understanding of the world around them.
I believe it because they are the words of the true God given to men! Let me ask you something. How was the universe formed? And before you answer that, I would point out to you that there are "Atheist Scientists" who study the Universe for a living, and have proclaimed that "There has to be being that created it" because of how all the galaxies exist in perfect and uniform harmony Extraordinary claim require extraordinary evidence. Can you provide any reliable source for that? I'm glad you asked. Give me a second please.Both would exist simultaneously until it was observed and the waveform collapsed. Therefore acording to your application the bible is both true, not true and everything inbetween. If you then apply probability to this there is a infinate number of possible natures god could have (including non-existence) that means it is an infinately small chance of any one possiblity being true. x = 0.0000.....001 10x = 0.0000.....001 10x - x = 9x ------------ 0.0000.....001 - 0.0000.....001 = 0 9x/9 = x ------------ 0 / 9 = 0 Therefore there is a 0% chance of god existing in the exact form that you believe in.Guys, observe this example. If you were blind and living in a cave, does it mean the Sun doesn't exist? Or does the Sun exist regardless of your condition here on Earth?
My point is that it doesn't matter what your backgroud or nationality is. The truth is that there is an Almighty God, and His Word can be read in the bible. And the Word applies to every one of us regardless if you're atheist, muslim, hindu, or christian.
darkhadou
That's not always a bad thing. For one, it can help people strive to live a life of good.Quite easily actually. How do you feel about the possibility if being burned and tortured for eternity?
nitsud_19
[QUOTE="Lord_Omikron666"][QUOTE="CrocodileNuts"]Only God can judge.You'd think He would judge me very poorly for being atheist and all that. He will judge you for not believeing in Him, despite all the literature about Him all over the world.Which I did say I don't believe, so I'll let the big guy up above judge me I guess.darkhadou
I think I would prefere an afterlife actually, I like living. But if we are in store for an afterlife after death, that renders our lives here on earth pretty meaningless. Not only that, but existence just for the sake of existence seems rather bland. In an eternal afterlife, there is no need for ambition, no need for motivation - you literally have an eternity to do whatever you want.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]The way I see it, it's a lot better than an eternal afterlife. The fact that life is finite makes living so much more meaningful to me. racer8dan
[QUOTE="nitsud_19"]That's not always a bad thing. For one, it can help people strive to live a life of good.Quite easily actually. How do you feel about the possibility if being burned and tortured for eternity?
CrocodileNuts
Sounds like a part of those lives will be partly lived in fear. I would rather just live and not worry about the end.
Well, if you believe in God, its because it came from that book, why couldn't you beleive what it says regarding his image?racer8dan
They believe in God, I don't. Which makes using those books as "evidence" of a God and what God is in a argument not very effective. The fact that they thought those books were a suitable counter argument to what I said; just further convinces me the fear of death scares people into believing in silly things. There are many other religions with many other books claiming many different things, all of which are the "one truth".
To a outsider it looks ridiculous; and you have to wonder why the part of their brain responsible for logic doesn't see that. If I were to claim six dragon gods rule the universe you would either call me mad or ask for evidence, if the evidence I provided was my own claim of it being true; people would laugh. But here are people who believe these books are true, because the books themselves claim to be true.
Just a comment, if I may - we wouldn't know we reached a peak unless our technological advancement were at a decline.entropyecho
I'm not claiming we are at a peak, what I meant is there hasn't been a time in human history when we knew more than what we do now.
[QUOTE="darkhadou"]I believe it because they are the words of the true God given to men! Let me ask you something. How was the universe formed? And before you answer that, I would point out to you that there are "Atheist Scientists" who study the Universe for a living, and have proclaimed that "There has to be being that created it" because of how all the galaxies exist in perfect and uniform harmonyFaith passed off as fact, what's new there? I've seen enough creationist propaganda to know of the "creation scientists" that aren't in jail for one reason or another; are professional liars. People who seem to have no issue spreading the same lies no matter how many times they are disproved.
Look, I'm not interested in hearing more of how you are a religious indoctrination victim. Quite frankly I really dislike people like you, you're very selfish. Creationists are the type of people who gorge themselves fit to burst on the benefits of scientific naturalism; then attack the table with a axe. They attack the very thing that gave them the comfortable lifestyle that enables them to take the time to attack science in the first place.
I cope just fine with knowing my death will be the end of my conciousness or whatever you want to call it. After the event, I doubt I'll be able to percieve anything at all, so it really doesn't matter after that. It's not very useful to worry about that when you're alive. All that matters is to pursue what you want in life and not get caught up in silly worries.
[QUOTE="racer8dan"]I think I would prefere an afterlife actually, I like living. But if we are in store for an afterlife after death, that renders our lives here on earth pretty meaningless. Not only that, but existence just for the sake of existence seems rather bland. In an eternal afterlife, there is no need for ambition, no need for motivation - you literally have an eternity to do whatever you want. If your a religious man and believe God created a heaven and earth, Then I bet he made heaven so amazing, that it would be beyond our comprehension. If you beleive in an afterlife like what we have now, then I can see where you're coming from.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]The way I see it, it's a lot better than an eternal afterlife. The fact that life is finite makes living so much more meaningful to me. -Sun_Tzu-
[QUOTE="racer8dan"]Well, if you believe in God, its because it came from that book, why couldn't you beleive what it says regarding his image?ADF_Game
They believe in God, I don't. Which makes using those books as "evidence" of a God and what God is in a argument not very effective. The fact that they thought those books were a suitable counter argument to what I said; just further convinces me the fear of death scares people into believing in silly things. There are many other religions with many other books claiming many different things, all of which are the "one truth".
To a outsider it looks ridiculous; and you have to wonder why the part of their brain responsible for logic doesn't see that. If I were to claim six dragon gods rule the universe you would either call me mad or ask for evidence, if the evidence I provided was my own claim of it being true; people would laugh. But here are people who believe these books are true, because the books themselves claim to be true.
I believe in God, and I can also see why you think its ridiculous, but then I look at the evidence around me, people, the earth, the universe, everything, and I always come to the conclusion that there has to be a creator behind it, its just to great for everthing to of just come together by chance. People have a hard time beleiving in a coincidental story presented to them, yet they beleive the entire universe, and placement of everthing within it, is just coincidental.I believe it because they are the words of the true God given to men! Let me ask you something. How was the universe formed? And before you answer that, I would point out to you that there are "Atheist Scientists" who study the Universe for a living, and have proclaimed that "There has to be being that created it" because of how all the galaxies exist in perfect and uniform harmony Extraordinary claim require extraordinary evidence. Can you provide any reliable source for that?[QUOTE="darkhadou"][QUOTE="ADF_Game"]
And those books are correct because...? Regardless of what you claim; someone else will have just as much faith in some other book.
You do have to wonder why religious people don't see how silly their arguments are at times. We are at the peak of technological advancement and understanding of the universe we live in throughout the entire of human history; but some desert tribe in the bronze age new the secrets to the universe, despite lacking even basic understanding of the world around them.
BuryMe
"There is for me powerful evidence that there is something going on behind it all....It seems as though somebody has fine-tuned nature's numbers to make the Universe....The impression of design is overwhelming" - Paul Davies
"As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?" - George Greenstein
"A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question" - Fred Hoyle
"Astronomy leads us to a unique event, a universe which was created out of nothing, one with the very delicate balance needed to provide exactly the conditions required to permit life, and one which has an underlying (one might say 'supernatural') plan." - Arno Penzias (Nobel prize in physics)
"I would say the universe has a purpose. It's not there just somehow by chance." - Roger Penrose
"Then we shall… be able to take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason - for then we would know the mind of God." - Stephen Hawking
"When I began my career as a cosmologist some twenty years ago, I was a convinced atheist. I never in my wildest dreams imagined that one day I would be writing a book purporting to show that the central claims of Judeo-Christian theology are in fact true, that these claims are straightforward deductions of the laws of physics as we now understand them. I have been forced into these conclusions by the inexorable logic of my own special branch of physics." - Frank Tipler
"It now seems to me that the findings of more than fifty years of Deoxyribonucleic acid: the chemical inside the nucleus of a cell that carries the genetic instructions for making living organisms.DNA research have provided materials for a new and enormously powerful argument to design." - Antony Flew
Let me know if you want more
But if we are in store for an afterlife after death, that renders our lives here on earth pretty meaningless. Not only that, but existence just for the sake of existence seems rather bland. In an eternal afterlife, there is no need for ambition, no need for motivation - you literally have an eternity to do whatever you want. If your a religious man and believe God created a heaven and earth, Then I bet he made heaven so amazing, that it would be beyond our comprehension. If you beleive in an afterlife like what we have now, then I can see where you're coming from. But if heaven is so amazing and incomprehensibly fantastic, what meaning does this life have?[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="racer8dan"]I think I would prefere an afterlife actually, I like living.
racer8dan
They believe in God, I don't. Which makes using those books as "evidence" of a God and what God is in a argument not very effective. The fact that they thought those books were a suitable counter argument to what I said; just further convinces me the fear of death scares people into believing in silly things. There are many other religions with many other books claiming many different things, all of which are the "one truth".
To a outsider it looks ridiculous; and you have to wonder why the part of their brain responsible for logic doesn't see that. If I were to claim six dragon gods rule the universe you would either call me mad or ask for evidence, if the evidence I provided was my own claim of it being true; people would laugh. But here are people who believe these books are true, because the books themselves claim to be true.
Just a comment, if I may - we wouldn't know we reached a peak unless our technological advancement were at a decline.entropyecho
I'm not claiming we are at a peak, what I meant is there hasn't been a time in human history when we knew more than what we do now.
I believe it because they are the words of the true God given to men! Let me ask you something. How was the universe formed? And before you answer that, I would point out to you that there are "Atheist Scientists" who study the Universe for a living, and have proclaimed that "There has to be being that created it" because of how all the galaxies exist in perfect and uniform harmony darkhadou
Faith passed off as fact, what's new there? I've seen enough creationist propaganda to know of the "creation scientists" that aren't in jail for one reason or another; are professional liars. People who seem to have no issue spreading the same lies no matter how many times they are disproved.
Look, I'm not interested in hearing more of how you are a religious indoctrination victim. Quite frankly I really dislike people like you, you're very selfish. Creationists are the type of people who gorge themselves fit to burst on the benefits of scientific naturalism; then attack the table with a axe. They attack the very thing that gave them the comfortable lifestyle that enables them to take the time to attack science in the first place.
Since you have logic (not religion based), explain to me how in science/engineering, when solving some integrals/equations, we end up with "infinity" as the answer? Why does an answer such as 'infinity' exist in the science/engineering world??? By the way, I'm currently studying my Masters' in Electrical Engineering[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="racer8dan"]I think I would prefere an afterlife actually, I like living.
But if we are in store for an afterlife after death, that renders our lives here on earth pretty meaningless. Not only that, but existence just for the sake of existence seems rather bland. In an eternal afterlife, there is no need for ambition, no need for motivation - you literally have an eternity to do whatever you want. If your a religious man and believe God created a heaven and earth, Then I bet he made heaven so amazing, that it would be beyond our comprehension. If you beleive in an afterlife like what we have now, then I can see where you're coming from. Brother, the earth is really a beautiful place right? Different seasons, beautiful locales, great music etc. If God is creative enough to make Earth this beautiful, then believe that Heaven has to be the most beautiful place that we can't imagine. Why? Because God lives there. :-)[QUOTE="racer8dan"]If your a religious man and believe God created a heaven and earth, Then I bet he made heaven so amazing, that it would be beyond our comprehension. If you beleive in an afterlife like what we have now, then I can see where you're coming from. But if heaven is so amazing and incomprehensibly fantastic, what meaning does this life have?Again, if you believe in the bible, we were meant to live forever on earth, but with sin came death. So pretty much, this life is temporary, and a choice to follow God or not follow God.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] But if we are in store for an afterlife after death, that renders our lives here on earth pretty meaningless. Not only that, but existence just for the sake of existence seems rather bland. In an eternal afterlife, there is no need for ambition, no need for motivation - you literally have an eternity to do whatever you want. -Sun_Tzu-
He will judge you for not believeing in Him, despite all the literature about Him all over the world.Which I did say I don't believe, so I'll let the big guy up above judge me I guess. We are ALL gonna get jugded brother. A lot of judgements would not end well. You know, at some point in my life I questioned the legitimate existence of God (Jesus Christ) as well. If you truthfully give it attempt to know Him, there is no way (and I repeat NO WAY) that He would not reveal this truth to you![QUOTE="darkhadou"][QUOTE="Lord_Omikron666"]You'd think He would judge me very poorly for being atheist and all that.Lord_Omikron666
[QUOTE="racer8dan"]If your a religious man and believe God created a heaven and earth, Then I bet he made heaven so amazing, that it would be beyond our comprehension. If you beleive in an afterlife like what we have now, then I can see where you're coming from. Brother, the earth is really a beautiful place right? Different seasons, beautiful locales, great music etc. If God is creative enough to make Earth this beautiful, then believe that Heaven has to be the most beautiful place that we can't imagine. Why? Because God lives there. :-)If you believe God created us and is all powerful, wouldn't you also believe that his comprehension of things is far beyond ours? If he could create life, then he could also do other things, and know other things beyond our comprehension.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] But if we are in store for an afterlife after death, that renders our lives here on earth pretty meaningless. Not only that, but existence just for the sake of existence seems rather bland. In an eternal afterlife, there is no need for ambition, no need for motivation - you literally have an eternity to do whatever you want. darkhadou
You know, at some point in my life I questioned the legitimate existence of God (Jesus Christ) as well. If you truthfully give it attempt to know Him, there is no way (and I repeat NO WAY) that He would not reveal this truth to you!darkhadouYou understand that it's extraordinarily arrogant to assume that your experience with faith is the only possible one, don't you?
The fact that I think nothing happens after death is probably easier on my mind than always worrying about going to hell after death. I'll take nothingness over hell. JML897i agree with this guy :)
Extraordinary claim require extraordinary evidence. Can you provide any reliable source for that?[QUOTE="BuryMe"]
[QUOTE="darkhadou"] I believe it because they are the words of the true God given to men! Let me ask you something. How was the universe formed? And before you answer that, I would point out to you that there are "Atheist Scientists" who study the Universe for a living, and have proclaimed that "There has to be being that created it" because of how all the galaxies exist in perfect and uniform harmony darkhadou
"There is for me powerful evidence that there is something going on behind it all....It seems as though somebody has fine-tuned nature's numbers to make the Universe....The impression of design is overwhelming" - Paul Davies
"As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?" - George Greenstein
"A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question" - Fred Hoyle
"Astronomy leads us to a unique event, a universe which was created out of nothing, one with the very delicate balance needed to provide exactly the conditions required to permit life, and one which has an underlying (one might say 'supernatural') plan." - Arno Penzias (Nobel prize in physics)
"I would say the universe has a purpose. It's not there just somehow by chance." - Roger Penrose
"Then we shall… be able to take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason - for then we would know the mind of God." - Stephen Hawking
"When I began my career as a cosmologist some twenty years ago, I was a convinced atheist. I never in my wildest dreams imagined that one day I would be writing a book purporting to show that the central claims of Judeo-Christian theology are in fact true, that these claims are straightforward deductions of the laws of physics as we now understand them. I have been forced into these conclusions by the inexorable logic of my own special branch of physics." - Frank Tipler
"It now seems to me that the findings of more than fifty years of Deoxyribonucleic acid: the chemical inside the nucleus of a cell that carries the genetic instructions for making living organisms.DNA research have provided materials for a new and enormously powerful argument to design." - Antony Flew
Let me know if you want more
He said "evidence". Not opinions of individuals.But if heaven is so amazing and incomprehensibly fantastic, what meaning does this life have?Again, if you believe in the bible, we were meant to live forever on earth, but with sin came death. So pretty much, this life is temporary, and a choice to follow God or not follow God. So then you are admitting that life on earth is meaningless, are you not? As long as I follow all of God's arbitrary rules, does it really matter if I compose a great piece of music or write a great novel in this life? Why should I strive to achieve things? What value do any of my achievements have if this life is nothing more than a test?[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="racer8dan"]If your a religious man and believe God created a heaven and earth, Then I bet he made heaven so amazing, that it would be beyond our comprehension. If you beleive in an afterlife like what we have now, then I can see where you're coming from.
racer8dan
[QUOTE="darkhadou"]
[QUOTE="BuryMe"]Extraordinary claim require extraordinary evidence. Can you provide any reliable source for that?Teenaged
"There is for me powerful evidence that there is something going on behind it all....It seems as though somebody has fine-tuned nature's numbers to make the Universe....The impression of design is overwhelming" - Paul Davies
"As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?" - George Greenstein
"A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question" - Fred Hoyle
"Astronomy leads us to a unique event, a universe which was created out of nothing, one with the very delicate balance needed to provide exactly the conditions required to permit life, and one which has an underlying (one might say 'supernatural') plan." - Arno Penzias (Nobel prize in physics)
"I would say the universe has a purpose. It's not there just somehow by chance." - Roger Penrose
"Then we shall… be able to take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason - for then we would know the mind of God." - Stephen Hawking
"When I began my career as a cosmologist some twenty years ago, I was a convinced atheist. I never in my wildest dreams imagined that one day I would be writing a book purporting to show that the central claims of Judeo-Christian theology are in fact true, that these claims are straightforward deductions of the laws of physics as we now understand them. I have been forced into these conclusions by the inexorable logic of my own special branch of physics." - Frank Tipler
"It now seems to me that the findings of more than fifty years of Deoxyribonucleic acid: the chemical inside the nucleus of a cell that carries the genetic instructions for making living organisms.DNA research have provided materials for a new and enormously powerful argument to design." - Antony Flew
Let me know if you want more
He said "evidence". Not opinions of individuals. Also, off the top of my head, Anthony Flew is neither a scientist nor an atheist (he is a Deist philosopher) and Paul Davies is pretty theistic in his approach too (having described his motivation in science as a desire to "know the mind of God")[QUOTE="darkhadou"] He will judge you for not believeing in Him, despite all the literature about Him all over the world.xaosI hope that you have read the Eddas and accepted Odin as the All-Father, lest he be forced to judge you and condemn your soul to Niffleheim Do you believe in satan? Because you have him in you sig?
[QUOTE="darkhadou"][QUOTE="racer8dan"]If your a religious man and believe God created a heaven and earth, Then I bet he made heaven so amazing, that it would be beyond our comprehension. If you beleive in an afterlife like what we have now, then I can see where you're coming from.
Brother, the earth is really a beautiful place right? Different seasons, beautiful locales, great music etc. If God is creative enough to make Earth this beautiful, then believe that Heaven has to be the most beautiful place that we can't imagine. Why? Because God lives there. :-)If you believe God created us and is all powerful, wouldn't you also believe that his comprehension of things is far beyond ours? If he could create life, then he could also do other things, and know other things beyond our comprehension. You're absolutely right.[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="darkhadou"] He will judge you for not believeing in Him, despite all the literature about Him all over the world.darkhadouI hope that you have read the Eddas and accepted Odin as the All-Father, lest he be forced to judge you and condemn your soul to Niffleheim Do you believe in satan? Because you have him in you sig?Is that ...relevant? At all?
[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="darkhadou"] He will judge you for not believeing in Him, despite all the literature about Him all over the world.darkhadouI hope that you have read the Eddas and accepted Odin as the All-Father, lest he be forced to judge you and condemn your soul to Niffleheim Do you believe in satan? Because you have him in you sig? I do not; that is retrieved from a Facebook group that decried Gamespot as "Satan's Lair" because some aggressive evangelicals who used to post here felt that several of the moderators were "soldiers in Satan's army"
What's wrong with death being the end? I welcome it.How do youdeal with the possibility that death is the end?
CrocodileNuts
They dont. Makes me glad I am not an atheist.MoonMarvel
Well, I'm not atheist, but I doubt this is true. Most atheists cope with nothingness by thinking rationally about it. If it's nothingness, you experience... nothing. It would be just like before you were born. That's not a terribly discomforting thought, given that you're incapable of being discomforted by it.
[QUOTE="Lord_Omikron666"]Which I did say I don't believe, so I'll let the big guy up above judge me I guess. We are ALL gonna get jugded brother. A lot of judgements would not end well. You know, at some point in my life I questioned the legitimate existence of God (Jesus Christ) as well. If you truthfully give it attempt to know Him, there is no way (and I repeat NO WAY) that He would not reveal this truth to you! When I read this I heard Desmond's voice from Lost :P[QUOTE="darkhadou"] He will judge you for not believeing in Him, despite all the literature about Him all over the world.darkhadou
[QUOTE="darkhadou"][QUOTE="xaos"] I hope that you have read the Eddas and accepted Odin as the All-Father, lest he be forced to judge you and condemn your soul to NiffleheimxaosDo you believe in satan? Because you have him in you sig? I do not; that is retrieved from a Facebook group that decried Gamespot as "Satan's Lair" because some aggressive evangelicals who used to post here felt that several of the moderators were "soldiers in Satan's army"
I dearly wish I had seen that. By the time I got here, it was a private group. I could only find a few little cached tidbits with Google.
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