How good is Obama doing so far? (poll)

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#1 Mind_Mover
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Its time, Obama has been president long enough to have a general idea of him, and what he is doing.

I think he is doing a pretty bad job so far, he has already broken a few promises and reminds me of bush everyday.

Particularly this

"President Barack Obama invoked "state secrets" to prevent a court from reviewing the legality of the National Security Agency's warantless wiretapping program, moving late Friday to have a lawsuit that challenged the program dismissed"

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_follows_Bush_policy_on_wiretapping_0406.html

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#2 LJS9502_basic
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Thus far I am not impressed.

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#3 DivergeUnify
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Not liking so far.
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#4 michaelP4
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Its time, Obama has been president long enough to have a general idea of himMind_Mover
Not necessarily. Obama is still in the early stages of being President, he hasn't even came close to the real problems just yet. So far, he is doing good, nothing magnificent though (as I expected).
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#5 Oleg_Huzwog
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So far, he's meeting my expectations.

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#6 villa4europe
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his wife hugged the queen and lived to tell the tale so he must be doing something right...

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#7 Mind_Mover
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So far, he's meeting my expectations.

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How high are your expectations?

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#8 Oleg_Huzwog
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

So far, he's meeting my expectations.

Mind_Mover

How high are your expectations?

Rather low.

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#9 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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I can only judge him from an european point of view, but sofar he is doing well enough.

he is trying to repair the VERY damaged relations between the states and the rest of the world, and he is doing allright.

I do not need to live with his choices tho, what he does in the states, I will not be able to relate to. But his foregin policies seem to be good, above what I thought if I have to be honest.

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#10 ace-of-spades93
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he's doing as well as can be expected of a president in such hard times.

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#11 Boston_Boyy
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I'll give him unti December until I can make a full decision on him but you know he was so overhyped coming in to his presidency that alot of people are in for a big disappointment. My expectations for him were nothing spectacular tbh.

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#12 Rocky32189
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Bad
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#13 chesterocks7
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Real bad, just as expected.

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#14 Mind_Mover
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he's doing as well as can be expected of a president in such hard times.

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Do you also have low expectations for him? bush was also president, and i doubt the people expected things to turn out this way..

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#15 Bloodaxe726
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He's doing a rather bad job in my opinion.

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#16 maheo30
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Really bad! Can you say great depression?
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#17 Napkin4TheFace
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i just want him to legalize illegal substances
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#18 chessmaster1989
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He's doing well. Honestly, I don't see how anyone can classify him as doing really well or really poorly before we can even see the results of his actions.
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#19 ninjaboy7
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Obama's presidency is an "obama"nation

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#20 ace-of-spades93
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[QUOTE="ace-of-spades93"]

he's doing as well as can be expected of a president in such hard times.

Mind_Mover

Do you also have low expectations for him? bush was also president, and i doubt the people expected things to turn out this way..

i knew everything was overhyped

btw i love you too snickums

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#21 Boston_Boyy
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Really bad! Can you say great depression? maheo30
That will honestly never happen almost 25% of people, yes almost TWENTY-FIVE PERCENT. Of people were unemployed during the depression. Were no where close to that. Honestly Obama would have to be trying if he wanted unemployment nunbers to fall that low. Even tough Detriot's unemployment rate is 22%.

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#22 deactivated-5a84f3399aa1c
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He's doing fine, what did you expect him to do, stop the recession cold?
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#23 k16campbell
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Yeah he is doing VERY poorly. Its funny cause everyone was saying "He is going to be better than bush... or, He isa god"but uh.. no progress obama... great job...

Im not saying that being the president is an easy job its just that, you know... At least try to get us back on track, instead of sitting at home and making NCAA brackets.

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#24 K1LLR3175
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Out of the 4 years he is suppose to be in Office he just started about three months ago.I think that he is doing ok so far.I say judge him on his first year in office.
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#25 comp_atkins
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like every president before him he will be judged by standards that no president has ever met while in office... once he is out of office everyone will say he did the best he could. once he dies everyone will say he was great.
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#26 Engrish_Major
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I'm pretty happy with him. He's done and said more things I agree with already than Bush did in 8 whole years.
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#27 hamstergeddon
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:lol: at all the people saying Obama's not doing a good job because we're in a recession
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#28 Boston_Boyy
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:lol: at all the people saying Obama's not doing a good job because we're in a recessionhamstergeddon
It's not because were in the recession, that started over a year before he was president

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#29 -Sun_Tzu-
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I've been somewhat pleased with what he has done so far. I'm pretty upset, however, over how reluctant his administration seems to be when it comes to nationalizing the banks. I can't say that I am thrilled with Geitnher's "public-private partenership" to save the banks.
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#30 nocoolnamejim
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On balance, I am satisfied. He's in a difficult situation. I'm not sure I would give him a "VERY good" rating, but overall I am pleased with his efforts so far.
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#31 k_smoove
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About as good as anyone could do. How could anyone solve all of the current issues the world is facing?

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Very good! I hope we increase the deficit tenfold. Hell, printing more trillions will be great too! I can't wait for the unions to control everything either! How about the government being able to set your pay? Yeah, baby! Obama is our savior!
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Very good! I hope we increase the deficit tenfold. Hell, printing more trillions will be great too! I can't wait for the unions to control everything either! How about the government being able to set your pay? Yeah, baby! Obama is our savior!Stevo_the_gamer
So basically you want the budget to be balanced (it was a fixation to balance the budget that prolonged the Great Depression) and you want the employer to control everything (which would only lead to wage slavery).
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Very good! I hope we increase the deficit tenfold. Hell, printing more trillions will be great too! I can't wait for the unions to control everything either! How about the government being able to set your pay? Yeah, baby! Obama is our savior!-Sun_Tzu-
So basically you want the budget to be balanced (it was a fixation to balance the budget that prolonged the Great Depression) and you want the employer to control everything (which would only lead to wage slavery).

What! I want the USA to continue spending money we don't have -- balance the budget? Lower our debt? Who the hell would want that to happen! Didn't you read what I posted! Sheesh. Why would I want the employer to control everything! I want the unions to be all-powerful! I want my president to bow down to the union's demands! All hail Obama -- our savior!

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#35 Dark-Sithious
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I have a feeling it will get a lot worse :|

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#36 K1LLR3175
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I have a feeling it will get a lot worse :|

Dark-Sithious
I hope not.
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Very good! I hope we increase the deficit tenfold. Hell, printing more trillions will be great too! I can't wait for the unions to control everything either! How about the government being able to set your pay? Yeah, baby! Obama is our savior!Stevo_the_gamer

So basically you want the budget to be balanced (it was a fixation to balance the budget that prolonged the Great Depression) and you want the employer to control everything (which would only lead to wage slavery).

What! I want the USA to continue spending money we don't have -- balance the budget? Lower our debt? Who the hell would want that to happen! Didn't you read what I posted! Sheesh. Why would I want the employer to control everything! I want the unions to be all-powerful! I want out president to bow down to the union's demands!

Ok. Well it only takes a simple understanding of macroeconomics to understand how an increase in government spending during a recession as severe as the one we are facing now can lead one to a recovery. Even the all mighty Ronald Reagan signed off on deficit spending during the recession of the early 80's.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Very good! I hope we increase the deficit tenfold. Hell, printing more trillions will be great too! I can't wait for the unions to control everything either! How about the government being able to set your pay? Yeah, baby! Obama is our savior!-Sun_Tzu-
So basically you want the budget to be balanced (it was a fixation to balance the budget that prolonged the Great Depression) and you want the employer to control everything (which would only lead to wage slavery).

Spitting trillions of dollars into the economy will increase inflation, thus the buying power of the averagee American hard earned money will be reduced. Maybe even the dollar will crash, who knows.

The various bailouts doesn't seem to have had a huge impact, and soon you will pay the price...

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Very good! I hope we increase the deficit tenfold. Hell, printing more trillions will be great too! I can't wait for the unions to control everything either! How about the government being able to set your pay? Yeah, baby! Obama is our savior!Dark-Sithious

So basically you want the budget to be balanced (it was a fixation to balance the budget that prolonged the Great Depression) and you want the employer to control everything (which would only lead to wage slavery).

Spitting trillions of dollars into the economy will increase inflation, thus the buying power of the averagee American hard earned money will be reduced. Maybe even the dollar will crash, who knows.

The various bailouts doesn't seem to have had a huge impact, and soon you will pay the price...

If there is any inflation, it would coupled with lower employment (unless there is a supply shock). There isn't going to be a scenario of too much money chasing too few goods, especially with the lackluster amount of spending on the part of the U.S.
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Spitting trillions of dollars into the economy will increase inflation, thus the buying power of the averagee American hard earned money will be reduced. Maybe even the dollar will crash, who knows.

The various bailouts doesn't seem to have had a huge impact, and soon you will pay the price...Dark-Sithious

I'd be more worried if China and other countries start buying more of our debt. They could pull something off similar to what the USA did to Great Britain back in the 50s, when the USA threatened to destroy Britain's currency if they didn't get out of the Suez canal. After that threat, Britain was out of the Suez instantly. Financial warfare... eek.

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#41 xgiantnomadx
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Really bad.

Im biased because im a conservative.

if you compare your bowling score to the special olympics you are a complete moron.

even if you are the president of the united states. you dont talk about or even relate something of yours

to the special olympics.

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#42 DeathHeart95
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From me- Mediocre to Good From the average American's god-like standards- We're not rolling in money, everyone still hates us, and he hasn't cured cancer. Worst president ever.
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#43 Bourbons3
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He's been fine so far.
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#44 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Best as can be expected imo.. He is doing tons of things very quickly which was impressive, on a capital hill we are use to seeing things go at a snails pace.. And that bit about him doing the NCAA brackets.. Who cares, the man has literally been doing something huge EVERY day.. Our last president had record vacation spending.. His ecomic policy is supported by alot of economists and rejected by alot, so one can not tell in the end how it is.. Time will tell.. He has done some great thigns such as STOPPING torture, close gitmo bay.. Not to mention he is doing things that people like McCain, or Bush never would have done.. Diplomacy.. Ever sense this conservative party took over, the US's foriegn policies have gone down the drain.. In the end who knows though its entirelly too early, imo though he is doing a far superior job from what I have seen McCain do.. In all honesty his main policies were exactly the same as Bush for the most part, and his economics seemed to be non existent when it comes to planning.. It is pretty startling too when people are going after him on economics when the conservatives are flabberghasted and basically have put forward nothing in general for the economy.. In the end its too early hope for the best.. But economy aside, he is doing a superb job in foriegn affairs.. The only problem I have is with the movement of troops to Afghanistan.
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[QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] So basically you want the budget to be balanced (it was a fixation to balance the budget that prolonged the Great Depression) and you want the employer to control everything (which would only lead to wage slavery). -Sun_Tzu-

Spitting trillions of dollars into the economy will increase inflation, thus the buying power of the averagee American hard earned money will be reduced. Maybe even the dollar will crash, who knows.

The various bailouts doesn't seem to have had a huge impact, and soon you will pay the price...

If there is any inflation, it would coupled with lower employment (unless there is a supply shock). There isn't going to be a scenario of too much money chasing too few goods, especially with the lackluster amount of spending on the part of the U.S.

If there is any inflation?

Well, first of all there is always inflation regardless of the bailouts, however you don't need a degree in economics to understand increased printing of money will reduce the buying power of the dollar. More money in circulation means less buying power, a pretty simple concept. Too look at how much the buying power of the dollar has reduced the last 10 years, you can look at the price of gold the last 10 years, the price has increased almost 400%

Considering the GPD of the United States is around 14 trillion if I'm not mistaken, and the bailouts are alreadyup to, or will be 12-13trillion dollars(if I'm not mistaken), then we are looking at a pretty vast increase in printing of money, and inflation will naturally rise.

And I have no reasons to believe they will stop spending money, and you are potentially looking at a hyperinflation, however it will take some time before you really feel the bang.

Me personally, think we are just beginning to feel the economic collapse, by the end of this year it will be a total disaster, god help us all.

If you have any money, I'd reccomend buying gold. Regardless of our finicial situation the value of gold, always stands the test of time

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[QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"]

Spitting trillions of dollars into the economy will increase inflation, thus the buying power of the averagee American hard earned money will be reduced. Maybe even the dollar will crash, who knows.

The various bailouts doesn't seem to have had a huge impact, and soon you will pay the price...

If there is any inflation, it would coupled with lower employment (unless there is a supply shock). There isn't going to be a scenario of too much money chasing too few goods, especially with the lackluster amount of spending on the part of the U.S.

If there is any inflation?

Well, first of all there is always inflation regardless of the bailouts, however you don't need a degree in economics to understand increased printing of money will reduce the buying power of the dollar. More money in circulation means less buying power, a pretty simple concept. Too look at how much the buying power of the dollar has reduced the last 10 years, you can look at the price of gold the last 10 years, the price has increased almost 400%

Considering the GPD of the United States is around 14 trillion if I'm not mistaken, and the bailouts are alreadyup to, or will be 12-13trillion dollars(if I'm not mistaken), then we are looking at a pretty vast increase in printing of money, and inflation will naturally rise.

And I have no reasons to believe they will stop spending money, and you are potentially looking at a hyperinflation, however it will take some time before you really feel the bang.

Me personally, think we are just beginning to feel the economic collaps, by the end of this year it will be a total diaster, god help us all.

Alot of economists including a former Nobel Prize winner economist disagrees with you, infact they believe that more spending is needed than what Obama is spending right now.. So please stop acting like you some how have eveyrthing figured out when clearly you don't.. No one knows exactly what will happen, but most do not agree with that conclusion.
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#47 Vandalvideo
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Not bad, not amazing either. He is just another Presidente atm.
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#48 EPaul
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Decent but really the guy's been President for less than 3 months............

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[QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] If there is any inflation, it would coupled with lower employment (unless there is a supply shock). There isn't going to be a scenario of too much money chasing too few goods, especially with the lackluster amount of spending on the part of the U.S.sSubZerOo

If there is any inflation?

Well, first of all there is always inflation regardless of the bailouts, however you don't need a degree in economics to understand increased printing of money will reduce the buying power of the dollar. More money in circulation means less buying power, a pretty simple concept. Too look at how much the buying power of the dollar has reduced the last 10 years, you can look at the price of gold the last 10 years, the price has increased almost 400%

Considering the GPD of the United States is around 14 trillion if I'm not mistaken, and the bailouts are alreadyup to, or will be 12-13trillion dollars(if I'm not mistaken), then we are looking at a pretty vast increase in printing of money, and inflation will naturally rise.

And I have no reasons to believe they will stop spending money, and you are potentially looking at a hyperinflation, however it will take some time before you really feel the bang.

Me personally, think we are just beginning to feel the economic collaps, by the end of this year it will be a total diaster, god help us all.

Alot of economists including a former Nobel Prize winner economist disagrees with you, infact they believe that more spending is needed than what Obama is spending right now.. So please stop acting like you some how have eveyrthing figured out when clearly you don't.. No one knows exactly what will happen, but most do not agree with that conclusion.

Regardless of they disagreeing with me thinking the economy will get worse, you are still facing rapid increase of inflation and that will at first decrease the value ofyour savings.

However, it might get better in the long run, but I highly doubt it

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#50 Dark-Sithious
Member since 2008 • 3914 Posts

Can anyone actually verify the total gov. spending at this point?

I thought it was 2 trillion tops, before I googled it. Anyone from America heard the numbers on the news or something, because this seems alarmingly high.

80-90% of The total GDP in just 6 months? Can't be right