how is watching p0rn a sin?

According to these peeps, anything you do in this world that results in you enjoying yourself is practically a sin.

Truth_Seekr

Did you know that men, similiar to women, have a "g-spot" in their anus. Are you telling me, that under the flag of enjoyment and hightened self pleasure, you would self-sodomize?

I don't know but it's probably a double sin if you watch it today (sunday)best-gam3r

Actually the sabath was yesterday for me and other seventh-day adventist, so it would just be a regular sin for me today:D

Personally, I detest pornography. I think it is one of the most degrading activities there is throughout society, especially for the people whom do those jobs. But, saying that, I do not stigmatize or hold anything against those whom do take a liking to it, nor do I think it makes them lesser than me or others in any way. If you like it then by all means feel free.

So, yes, though I personally am not fond of pornography, it does not bother me at all that others like it. When it comes to most everything, I usually have a let-them-do-what-they-please attitude.

[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]

According to these peeps, anything you do in this world that results in you enjoying yourself is practically a sin.

rimnet00

Did you know that men, similiar to women, have a "g-spot" in their anus. Are you telling me, that under the flag of enjoyment and hightened self pleasure, you would self-sodomize?

I wouldn't. Don't know about the rest of the people in here.

If you're an atheist it isn't a sin :Dscorch-62

Sin is a transgression against a divine law. Just because you don't believe the divine law is legitimate doesn't mean you can define sin by your own standards.

[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]

According to these peeps, anything you do in this world that results in you enjoying yourself is practically a sin.

Truth_Seekr

Did you know that men, similiar to women, have a "g-spot" in their anus. Are you telling me, that under the flag of enjoyment and hightened self pleasure, you would self-sodomize?

I wouldn't. Don't know about the rest of the people in here.

Why not?

[QUOTE="scorch-62"]If you're an atheist it isn't a sin :Dnbtrap1212

Sin is a transgression against a divine law. Just because you don't believe the divine law is legitimate doesn't mean you can define sin by your own standards.

Yes it does... **shifty eyes**

Seriously, though, the Pope and the Bible don't religiously bind atheists to the Ten Commandments and whatever the Pope declares as sin. Therefore, watching porn is not a sin for atheists. :|

But if it makes you feel better here's my new comment: "If you don't get an erection, it's not a sin... :?"

[QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]If you're an atheist it isn't a sin :Dscorch-62

Sin is a transgression against a divine law. Just because you don't believe the divine law is legitimate doesn't mean you can define sin by your own standards.

Yes it does... **shifty eyes**

Seriously, though, the Pope and the Bible don't religiously bind atheists to the Ten Commandments and whatever the Pope declares as sin. Therefore, watching porn is not a sin for atheists. :|

But if it makes you feel better here's my new comment: "If you don't get an erection, it's not a sin... :?"

Firstly, the pope didn't declare it as sin.

Secondly, you have to understand that 'sin' is a word with a definition. Atheists may not think it applies to them, but that doesn't change what the word means.

[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]If you're an atheist it isn't a sin :Dnbtrap1212

Sin is a transgression against a divine law. Just because you don't believe the divine law is legitimate doesn't mean you can define sin by your own standards.

Yes it does... **shifty eyes**

Seriously, though, the Pope and the Bible don't religiously bind atheists to the Ten Commandments and whatever the Pope declares as sin. Therefore, watching porn is not a sin for atheists. :|

But if it makes you feel better here's my new comment: "If you don't get an erection, it's not a sin... :?"

Firstly, the pope didn't declare it as sin.

Secondly, you have to understand that 'sin' is a word with a definition. Atheists may not think it applies to them, but that doesn't change what the word means.

[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]If you're an atheist it isn't a sin :Dnbtrap1212

Sin is a transgression against a divine law. Just because you don't believe the divine law is legitimate doesn't mean you can define sin by your own standards.

Yes it does... **shifty eyes**

Seriously, though, the Pope and the Bible don't religiously bind atheists to the Ten Commandments and whatever the Pope declares as sin. Therefore, watching porn is not a sin for atheists. :|

But if it makes you feel better here's my new comment: "If you don't get an erection, it's not a sin... :?"

Firstly, the pope didn't declare it as sin.

Secondly, you have to understand that 'sin' is a word with a definition. Atheists may not think it applies to them, but that doesn't change what the word means.

Who said it does? Does it say in any definition of a sin that watching porn is one?

A sin isn't a sin because "it hurts someone." :|

Anyway, watching pornography is typically frowned upon because of the lust involved, but I think it's only a sin when you look at it while you are already in a relationship.

[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]If you're an atheist it isn't a sin :Dnbtrap1212

Sin is a transgression against a divine law. Just because you don't believe the divine law is legitimate doesn't mean you can define sin by your own standards.

Yes it does... **shifty eyes**

Seriously, though, the Pope and the Bible don't religiously bind atheists to the Ten Commandments and whatever the Pope declares as sin. Therefore, watching porn is not a sin for atheists. :|

But if it makes you feel better here's my new comment: "If you don't get an erection, it's not a sin... :?"

Firstly, the pope didn't declare it as sin.

Secondly, you have to understand that 'sin' is a word with a definition. Atheists may not think it applies to them, but that doesn't change what the word means.

He said it was adultery, did he not? Adultery is a sin,if you're going bythe Ten Commandments. Therefore (the way I intended it to be percieved), the Pope declared it as a sin. :|

Sin does have a definition, you are right on that. But the Ten Commandments don't apply to Atheists, Muslims, Jews, or even Pastafarians. Basically, by your logic, you're saying that everyone has to follow the 5 Pillars of Islam, the 613 Mitzvahs of Judaism, the Ten Commandments,the 8 I Really Wish You Didn'ts and any other religion-bound "laws". :|

[QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]If you're an atheist it isn't a sin :Dscorch-62

Sin is a transgression against a divine law. Just because you don't believe the divine law is legitimate doesn't mean you can define sin by your own standards.

Yes it does... **shifty eyes**

Seriously, though, the Pope and the Bible don't religiously bind atheists to the Ten Commandments and whatever the Pope declares as sin. Therefore, watching porn is not a sin for atheists. :|

But if it makes you feel better here's my new comment: "If you don't get an erection, it's not a sin... :?"

Firstly, the pope didn't declare it as sin.

Secondly, you have to understand that 'sin' is a word with a definition. Atheists may not think it applies to them, but that doesn't change what the word means.

He said it was adultery, did he not? Adultery is a sin,if you're going bythe Ten Commandments. Therefore (the way I intended it to be percieved), the Pope declared it as a sin. :|

Sin does have a definition, you are right on that. But the Ten Commandments don't apply to Atheists, Muslims, Jews, or even Pastafarians. Basically, by your logic, you're saying that everyone has to follow the 5 Pillars of Islam, the 613 Mitzvahs of Judaism, the Ten Commandments,the 8 I Really Wish You Didn'ts and any other religion-bound "laws". :|

The Ten Commandments are Jewish laws. . .

The answer is quite simple.

If god is god, he has ability to tell us what is good and what is bad.

God is sinnless and the most powerful being in existence.

If god created us and he keeps to his commandments he can tell us what is good and what is bad

[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]If you're an atheist it isn't a sin :DDracargen

Sin is a transgression against a divine law. Just because you don't believe the divine law is legitimate doesn't mean you can define sin by your own standards.

Yes it does... **shifty eyes**

Seriously, though, the Pope and the Bible don't religiously bind atheists to the Ten Commandments and whatever the Pope declares as sin. Therefore, watching porn is not a sin for atheists. :|

But if it makes you feel better here's my new comment: "If you don't get an erection, it's not a sin... :?"

Firstly, the pope didn't declare it as sin.

Secondly, you have to understand that 'sin' is a word with a definition. Atheists may not think it applies to them, but that doesn't change what the word means.

He said it was adultery, did he not? Adultery is a sin,if you're going bythe Ten Commandments. Therefore (the way I intended it to be percieved), the Pope declared it as a sin. :|

Sin does have a definition, you are right on that. But the Ten Commandments don't apply to Atheists, Muslims, Jews, or even Pastafarians. Basically, by your logic, you're saying that everyone has to follow the 5 Pillars of Islam, the 613 Mitzvahs of Judaism, the Ten Commandments,the 8 I Really Wish You Didn'ts and any other religion-bound "laws". :|

The Ten Commandments are Jewish laws. . .

:|

Fine... the 603 Mitzvahs + the Ten Commandments :roll:

[QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]If you're an atheist it isn't a sin :DMr_sprinkles

Sin is a transgression against a divine law. Just because you don't believe the divine law is legitimate doesn't mean you can define sin by your own standards.

Yes it does... **shifty eyes**

Seriously, though, the Pope and the Bible don't religiously bind atheists to the Ten Commandments and whatever the Pope declares as sin. Therefore, watching porn is not a sin for atheists. :|

But if it makes you feel better here's my new comment: "If you don't get an erection, it's not a sin... :?"

Firstly, the pope didn't declare it as sin.

Secondly, you have to understand that 'sin' is a word with a definition. Atheists may not think it applies to them, but that doesn't change what the word means.

[QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]If you're an atheist it isn't a sin :DIlived

Sin is a transgression against a divine law. Just because you don't believe the divine law is legitimate doesn't mean you can define sin by your own standards.

Yes it does... **shifty eyes**

Seriously, though, the Pope and the Bible don't religiously bind atheists to the Ten Commandments and whatever the Pope declares as sin. Therefore, watching porn is not a sin for atheists. :|

But if it makes you feel better here's my new comment: "If you don't get an erection, it's not a sin... :?"

Firstly, the pope didn't declare it as sin.

Secondly, you have to understand that 'sin' is a word with a definition. Atheists may not think it applies to them, but that doesn't change what the word means.

Who said it does? Does it say in any definition of a sin that watching porn is one?

In Matthew, Jesus says that even if we look at a woman with lust in our hearts, we are commiting adultery. Are you going to ask me who said adultery is a sin?

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]If you're an atheist it isn't a sin :Dnbtrap1212

Sin is a transgression against a divine law. Just because you don't believe the divine law is legitimate doesn't mean you can define sin by your own standards.

Yes it does... **shifty eyes**

Seriously, though, the Pope and the Bible don't religiously bind atheists to the Ten Commandments and whatever the Pope declares as sin. Therefore, watching porn is not a sin for atheists. :|

But if it makes you feel better here's my new comment: "If you don't get an erection, it's not a sin... :?"

Firstly, the pope didn't declare it as sin.

Secondly, you have to understand that 'sin' is a word with a definition. Atheists may not think it applies to them, but that doesn't change what the word means.

it is a sin according to your beliefs. that does not make it objectively wrong.

Nevermind to all. It's really frustrating debating with people who hypocritically proclaim their disbelief in God while at the same time using a word (sin) that can have no meaning without Him. Just because you don't think it's wrong doesn't mean you can re-define a word in which you don't believe.

This thread is going by Christian context of the term "sin," is it not? Atheists =/= Christians. Atheists are not bound by the Ten Commandments. Therefore watching porn =/= sin... for Atheists.

[QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]If you're an atheist it isn't a sin :Dscorch-62

Sin is a transgression against a divine law. Just because you don't believe the divine law is legitimate doesn't mean you can define sin by your own standards.

Yes it does... **shifty eyes**

Seriously, though, the Pope and the Bible don't religiously bind atheists to the Ten Commandments and whatever the Pope declares as sin. Therefore, watching porn is not a sin for atheists. :|

But if it makes you feel better here's my new comment: "If you don't get an erection, it's not a sin... :?"

Firstly, the pope didn't declare it as sin.

Secondly, you have to understand that 'sin' is a word with a definition. Atheists may not think it applies to them, but that doesn't change what the word means.

He said it was adultery, did he not? Adultery is a sin,if you're going bythe Ten Commandments. Therefore (the way I intended it to be percieved), the Pope declared it as a sin. :|

Sin does have a definition, you are right on that. But the Ten Commandments don't apply to Atheists, Muslims, Jews, or even Pastafarians. Basically, by your logic, you're saying that everyone has to follow the 5 Pillars of Islam, the 613 Mitzvahs of Judaism, the Ten Commandments,the 8 I Really Wish You Didn'ts and any other religion-bound "laws". :|

I didn't say everyone has to follow them, I said that just because they don't think it applies to them doesn't mean they can re-define it.

This thread is going by Christian context of the term "sin," is it not? Atheists =/= Christians. Atheists are not bound by the Ten Commandments. Therefore watching porn =/= sin... for Atheists.

scorch-62

If Christianity is true:

Sin is a universal concept. No person is exempt, even if they don't believe sin exists.

If it is not: You are correct.

[QUOTE="Ilived"][QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]If you're an atheist it isn't a sin :Dnbtrap1212

Sin is a transgression against a divine law. Just because you don't believe the divine law is legitimate doesn't mean you can define sin by your own standards.

Yes it does... **shifty eyes**

Seriously, though, the Pope and the Bible don't religiously bind atheists to the Ten Commandments and whatever the Pope declares as sin. Therefore, watching porn is not a sin for atheists. :|

But if it makes you feel better here's my new comment: "If you don't get an erection, it's not a sin... :?"

Firstly, the pope didn't declare it as sin.

Secondly, you have to understand that 'sin' is a word with a definition. Atheists may not think it applies to them, but that doesn't change what the word means.

Who said it does? Does it say in any definition of a sin that watching porn is one?

In Matthew, Jesus says that even if we look at a woman with lust in our hearts, we are commiting adultery. Are you going to ask me who said adultery is a sin?

I was actually asking who said it changes the meaning of the word. Today we use the word 'sin' a lot but if half the people knew the word was religious exclusive then they wouldn't use it. The meaning of the word sin is still intact, but it is no longer religious.

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]If you're an atheist it isn't a sin :Dnbtrap1212

Sin is a transgression against a divine law. Just because you don't believe the divine law is legitimate doesn't mean you can define sin by your own standards.

Yes it does... **shifty eyes**

Seriously, though, the Pope and the Bible don't religiously bind atheists to the Ten Commandments and whatever the Pope declares as sin. Therefore, watching porn is not a sin for atheists. :|

But if it makes you feel better here's my new comment: "If you don't get an erection, it's not a sin... :?"

Firstly, the pope didn't declare it as sin.

Secondly, you have to understand that 'sin' is a word with a definition. Atheists may not think it applies to them, but that doesn't change what the word means.

I was actually asking who said it changes the meaning of the word. Today we use the word 'sin' a lot but if half the people knew the word was religious exclusive then they wouldn't use it. The meaning of the word sin is still intact, but it is no longer religious.

Ilived

[QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]If you're an atheist it isn't a sin :Dscorch-62

Sin is a transgression against a divine law. Just because you don't believe the divine law is legitimate doesn't mean you can define sin by your own standards.

Yes it does... **shifty eyes**

Seriously, though, the Pope and the Bible don't religiously bind atheists to the Ten Commandments and whatever the Pope declares as sin. Therefore, watching porn is not a sin for atheists. :|

But if it makes you feel better here's my new comment: "If you don't get an erection, it's not a sin... :?"

Firstly, the pope didn't declare it as sin.

Secondly, you have to understand that 'sin' is a word with a definition. Atheists may not think it applies to them, but that doesn't change what the word means.

it is a sin according to your beliefs. that does not make it objectively wrong.

Nevermind to all. It's really frustrating debating with people who hypocritically proclaim their disbelief in God while at the same time using a word (sin) that can have no meaning without Him. Just because you don't think it's wrong doesn't mean you can re-define a word in which you don't believe.

This thread is going by Christian context of the term "sin," is it not? Atheists =/= Christians. Atheists are not bound by the Ten Commandments. Therefore watching porn =/= sin... for Atheists.

Are you saying there's an atheist context to the word 'sin'? It is a religious term, and it means nothing to atheists. By your logic, you could also say, "The Ten Commandments don't apply to me, therefore the fourth commandment is not 'honor thy father and mother.'"

[QUOTE="Ilived"]

I was actually asking who said it changes the meaning of the word. Today we use the word 'sin' a lot but if half the people knew the word was religious exclusive then they wouldn't use it. The meaning of the word sin is still intact, but it is no longer religious.

rimnet00

Everyday. It's a replacement word for 'wrong' or 'bad'.

[QUOTE="scorch-62"]This thread is going by Christian context of the term "sin," is it not? Atheists =/= Christians. Atheists are not bound by the Ten Commandments. Therefore watching porn =/= sin... for Atheists.Dracargen

If Christianity is true:
Sin is a universal concept. No person is exempt, even if they don't believe sin exists.

If it is not:
You are correct.

That's an opinion. Atheists, Jews, Pastafarians, etc. are more along the second path.

[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="Ilived"]

I was actually asking who said it changes the meaning of the word. Today we use the word 'sin' a lot but if half the people knew the word was religious exclusive then they wouldn't use it. The meaning of the word sin is still intact, but it is no longer religious.

Ilived

Everyday. It's a replacement word for 'wrong' or 'bad'.

:|

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="Conanfan1"]Because the church doesn't want you to enjoy your life.sSubZerOo

That's probably what Satan said to Adam and Eve as they gazed at the Apple while in Paradise. Seriously, I understand that once you look at porn... it may be difficult to stop looking at it all together. However, do some you really find yourself that unable to live life without something as trivial as porn? Porn objectifies women as sex objects, and creates an environment that further tarnishes the sacred bound between a married couple.

I also imagine that if you are looking at porn, you are also self-adulterating. That's just barbaric.

IDK if you have been out of the loop, but most every one has this thing called human nature.. This includes a sex drive which gives us huge urges.. Urges that are powerful tto the point that no amount of absietence program has ever worked. That being said I think there is nothing wrong with porn.. To signfy there is you must also realize how hypocritical our culture is in the sense that blood and guts is considered fine in our media as long as something remotely small like a breast is not shown.

Ironically enough the people who seem to fight for the supposed "values" of issues like this end up being the biggest closet case out there.

Many people are attracted to religion for that reason, they need to detract themselves from that natural world, convince themselves they are not just another mere animal. But the fact is they are, and maybe they'll grow out of it, maybe not.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="Conanfan1"]Because the church doesn't want you to enjoy your life.GettingTired

That's probably what Satan said to Adam and Eve as they gazed at the Apple while in Paradise. Seriously, I understand that once you look at porn... it may be difficult to stop looking at it all together. However, do some you really find yourself that unable to live life without something as trivial as porn? Porn objectifies women as sex objects, and creates an environment that further tarnishes the sacred bound between a married couple.

I also imagine that if you are looking at porn, you are also self-adulterating. That's just barbaric.

IDK if you have been out of the loop, but most every one has this thing called human nature.. This includes a sex drive which gives us huge urges.. Urges that are powerful tto the point that no amount of absietence program has ever worked. That being said I think there is nothing wrong with porn.. To signfy there is you must also realize how hypocritical our culture is in the sense that blood and guts is considered fine in our media as long as something remotely small like a breast is not shown.

Ironically enough the people who seem to fight for the supposed "values" of issues like this end up being the biggest closet case out there.

Many people are attracted to religion for that reason, they need to detract themselves from that natural world, convince themselves they are not just another mere animal. But the fact is they are, and maybe they'll grow out of it, maybe not.

Many people are attracted to sin and worldy pleasure for that reason, they need to detract themselves from God, convince themselves they just a mere animal with no purpose other then fapping all day. But the fact is they arn't, and maybe they will grow out of it, or maybe not.

Are you saying there's an atheist context to the word 'sin'? It is a religious term, and it means nothing to atheists. By your logic, you could also say, "The Ten Commandments don't apply to me, therefore the fourth commandment is not 'honor thy father and mother.'" nbtrap1212

I'm saying that there's a universal context to the word sin. It isn't strictly a religious term any more. And no. By my logic, we could say, "I'm an Atheist, so I'm not bound by the Ten Commandments, the 613 Mitzvahs, the 5 Pillars, the 8 I Really Wish You Didn'ts, etc., etc., so on and so forth."

[QUOTE="GettingTired"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="Conanfan1"]Because the church doesn't want you to enjoy your life.rimnet00

That's probably what Satan said to Adam and Eve as they gazed at the Apple while in Paradise. Seriously, I understand that once you look at porn... it may be difficult to stop looking at it all together. However, do some you really find yourself that unable to live life without something as trivial as porn? Porn objectifies women as sex objects, and creates an environment that further tarnishes the sacred bound between a married couple.

I also imagine that if you are looking at porn, you are also self-adulterating. That's just barbaric.

IDK if you have been out of the loop, but most every one has this thing called human nature.. This includes a sex drive which gives us huge urges.. Urges that are powerful tto the point that no amount of absietence program has ever worked. That being said I think there is nothing wrong with porn.. To signfy there is you must also realize how hypocritical our culture is in the sense that blood and guts is considered fine in our media as long as something remotely small like a breast is not shown.

Ironically enough the people who seem to fight for the supposed "values" of issues like this end up being the biggest closet case out there.

Many people are attracted to religion for that reason, they need to detract themselves from that natural world, convince themselves they are not just another mere animal. But the fact is they are, and maybe they'll grow out of it, maybe not.

Many people are attracted to sin and worldy pleasure for that reason, they need to detract themselves from God, convince themselves they just a mere animal with no purpose other then fapping all day. But the fact is they arn't, and maybe they will grow out of it, or maybe not.

Detract themselves from an invisible being? Hilarious.

[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="GettingTired"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="Conanfan1"]Because the church doesn't want you to enjoy your life.GettingTired

That's probably what Satan said to Adam and Eve as they gazed at the Apple while in Paradise. Seriously, I understand that once you look at porn... it may be difficult to stop looking at it all together. However, do some you really find yourself that unable to live life without something as trivial as porn? Porn objectifies women as sex objects, and creates an environment that further tarnishes the sacred bound between a married couple.

I also imagine that if you are looking at porn, you are also self-adulterating. That's just barbaric.

IDK if you have been out of the loop, but most every one has this thing called human nature.. This includes a sex drive which gives us huge urges.. Urges that are powerful tto the point that no amount of absietence program has ever worked. That being said I think there is nothing wrong with porn.. To signfy there is you must also realize how hypocritical our culture is in the sense that blood and guts is considered fine in our media as long as something remotely small like a breast is not shown.

Ironically enough the people who seem to fight for the supposed "values" of issues like this end up being the biggest closet case out there.

Many people are attracted to religion for that reason, they need to detract themselves from that natural world, convince themselves they are not just another mere animal. But the fact is they are, and maybe they'll grow out of it, maybe not.

Many people are attracted to sin and worldy pleasure for that reason, they need to detract themselves from God, convince themselves they just a mere animal with no purpose other then fapping all day. But the fact is they arn't, and maybe they will grow out of it, or maybe not.

Detract themselves from an invisible being? Hilarious.

Well, at least you are admitting that God exists. That's the first step. Glad I could help :)

[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]This thread is going by Christian context of the term "sin," is it not? Atheists =/= Christians. Atheists are not bound by the Ten Commandments. Therefore watching porn =/= sin... for Atheists.scorch-62

If Christianity is true:
Sin is a universal concept. No person is exempt, even if they don't believe sin exists.

If it is not:
You are correct.

That's an opinion. Atheists, Jews, Pastafarians, etc. are more along the second path.

Facts are not subject to opinion.

Anyway, I'm not declaring Christianity to be true; I'm saying that IF IT IS, then sin is something that exists for everyone.

[QUOTE="turgore"]

humans are animals , mstrbting is a natural thing .

nbtrap1212

You mean like all those other animals that masturbate?

[QUOTE="GettingTired"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="GettingTired"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="Conanfan1"]Because the church doesn't want you to enjoy your life.rimnet00

That's probably what Satan said to Adam and Eve as they gazed at the Apple while in Paradise. Seriously, I understand that once you look at porn... it may be difficult to stop looking at it all together. However, do some you really find yourself that unable to live life without something as trivial as porn? Porn objectifies women as sex objects, and creates an environment that further tarnishes the sacred bound between a married couple.

I also imagine that if you are looking at porn, you are also self-adulterating. That's just barbaric.

IDK if you have been out of the loop, but most every one has this thing called human nature.. This includes a sex drive which gives us huge urges.. Urges that are powerful tto the point that no amount of absietence program has ever worked. That being said I think there is nothing wrong with porn.. To signfy there is you must also realize how hypocritical our culture is in the sense that blood and guts is considered fine in our media as long as something remotely small like a breast is not shown.

Ironically enough the people who seem to fight for the supposed "values" of issues like this end up being the biggest closet case out there.

Many people are attracted to religion for that reason, they need to detract themselves from that natural world, convince themselves they are not just another mere animal. But the fact is they are, and maybe they'll grow out of it, maybe not.

Many people are attracted to sin and worldy pleasure for that reason, they need to detract themselves from God, convince themselves they just a mere animal with no purpose other then fapping all day. But the fact is they arn't, and maybe they will grow out of it, or maybe not.

Detract themselves from an invisible being? Hilarious.

Well, at least you are admitting that God exists. That's the first step. Glad I could help :)

If that's what you need to tell yourself, I'm okay with that.

[QUOTE="nbtrap1212"]Are you saying there's an atheist context to the word 'sin'? It is a religious term, and it means nothing to atheists. By your logic, you could also say, "The Ten Commandments don't apply to me, therefore the fourth commandment is not 'honor thy father and mother.'" scorch-62

I'm saying that there's a universal context to the word sin. It isn't strictly a religious term any more. And no. By my logic, we could say, "I'm an Atheist, so I'm not bound by the Ten Commandments, the 613 Mitzvahs, the 5 Pillars, the 8 I Really Wish You Didn'ts, etc., etc., so on and so forth."

It is a religious term, and it implies divinity. This is the same argument that people use when they talk about same-sex "marriage"; "It's not just religious anymore." Why should you get to hijack the beliefs of other people and define them how you want to? Don't call it marriage, call it something else (garriage, perhaps?) Similarly, don't call it "not a sin", rather, say "I don't think it's wrong."

Cause your a worthless piece of **** that doesn't know how to get a girl and has to watch sex.

TwistedIsMyMood

You are so hardcorexxxx dude.

[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="nbtrap1212"]Are you saying there's an atheist context to the word 'sin'? It is a religious term, and it means nothing to atheists. By your logic, you could also say, "The Ten Commandments don't apply to me, therefore the fourth commandment is not 'honor thy father and mother.'" nbtrap1212

I'm saying that there's a universal context to the word sin. It isn't strictly a religious term any more. And no. By my logic, we could say, "I'm an Atheist, so I'm not bound by the Ten Commandments, the 613 Mitzvahs, the 5 Pillars, the 8 I Really Wish You Didn'ts, etc., etc., so on and so forth."

It is a religious term, and it implies divinity. This is the same argument that people use when they talk about same-sex "marriage"; "It's not just religious anymore." Why should you get to hijack the beliefs of other people and define them how you want to? Don't call it marriage, call it something else (garriage, perhaps?) Similarly, don't call it "not a sin", rather, say "I don't think it's wrong."

Read and submit defeat.

"Sin" as defined by dictionary.com:
sin1/sɪn/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sin] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, sinned, sin·ning. -noun

1.transgression of divine law: the sin of Adam.
2.any act regarded as such a transgression, esp. a willful or deliberate violation of some religious or moral principle.
3.any reprehensible or regrettable action, behavior, lapse, etc.; great fault or offense: It's a sin to waste time.

-verb (used without object)
4.to commit a sinful act.
5.to offend against a principle, standard, etc.

-verb (used with object)
6.to commit or perform sinfully: He sinned his crimes without compunction.
7.to bring, drive, etc., by sinning: He sinned his soul to perdition.

[Origin: bef. 900; (n.) ME; OE syn(n) offense, misdeed; akin to G Sünde, ON synd sin, L sōns guilty; (v.) deriv. of the n., r. ME sin(i)gen, syn(i)gen, OE syngian, itself deriv. of the n.]

As I said: 'Sin' does not strictly have a religious connotation anymore. :|