How long and how easily could the U.S. conquer Canada militarily?

A u.s has largest military/ navy/ airforce is reckon to be the most deadlest military in the world (do you really think one country can stand up agaist that?)

B canada has fourth (at least in ww2 idk today don't pay much attention)

C most allies of u.s is allies of canada so any allies would pretty much would back off the issue, and would only try to prevent war

lets just put it this way if a true war breaks out in the world we have now pretty much no one would live unless your 10 miles under ground...

and when i mean a true war I'm not talking about no Iraq where our forces are fight more for the people there and trying to get raid of a group of people who petty much play wild goose games , I'm talking about WW2 styIe where mobs of people got gun down by 50 cal turrets and carpet bombed from airplane raids

in the end none of this matters canda and u.s is pretty calm to each other and don't really have any issues with each other

A bigger question is who wants Canada, yeah it is not very strong militarily I'm sure but it's just tundra, what benefit would we get by taking over Canada?

C most allies of u.s is allies of canada so any allies would pretty much would back off the issue, and would only try to prevent war

k2theswiss

But the UK and the Commonwealth countries would be obligated to back Canada.

[QUOTE="k2theswiss"]

C most allies of u.s is allies of canada so any allies would pretty much would back off the issue, and would only try to prevent war

raynimrod

But the UK and the Commonwealth countries would be obligated to back Canada.

[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

The entire thing would be over when the first tank crossed the border.

Canada isn't really a military power. They don't really need to be though. Not every country needs a military capable of massive, global scale domination.

lordreaven

Think about what? I don't see any advantage they hold. Unless they harbor some kind of previously unseen weapon capable of enormous destruction, like some biological agent, the difference in power is overwhelming.

[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

The entire thing would be over when the first tank crossed the border.

Canada isn't really a military power. They don't really need to be though. Not every country needs a military capable of massive, global scale domination.

-TheSecondSign-

Think about what? I don't see any advantage they hold. Unless they harbor some kind of previously unseen weapon capable of enormous destruction, like some biological agent, the difference in power is overwhelming.

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="k2theswiss"]

C most allies of u.s is allies of canada so any allies would pretty much would back off the issue, and would only try to prevent war

Ace6301

But the UK and the Commonwealth countries would be obligated to back Canada.

Yes, it would be a very opportune time for them to take some digs at the States.

Won't be so easy. Canada has the toughest soldiers in the world.... hockey players.

This thread it pretty stupid...

Let me put it this way...

With the exception of China or maybe North Korea based on sheer numbers, no one could stand against the US for an extended period of time in straight warfare... Canadas military would fall almost instantly...

But thats the thing... the world would not sit by and let us bully an obviously weaker country... some my stick by us(Germany would, I think), but I would imagine much of the EU would declare war on the US... and China or Russia may take advantage of the negative feelings...

But no consequences, no world implication... Canada would fall in a week...

heysharpshooter

The taliban hasn't fallen in years, so why do you think Canada would fall so easy?? It's amazing how people keep disrespecting the Canadian military like this, America has invaded 2 countries to try and stop terrorism and they haven't stopped it at all. They tried to capture Osama but they haven't been able to. But oh yeah, of course they can just walk into Canada and take over within a week :roll: It's the second largest country in the world, and we have a pretty good military.

I guess I must be responding to the same people who say things like "America is the best, every other country sucks"

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

This thread it pretty stupid...

Let me put it this way...

With the exception of China or maybe North Korea based on sheer numbers, no one could stand against the US for an extended period of time in straight warfare... Canadas military would fall almost instantly...

But thats the thing... the world would not sit by and let us bully an obviously weaker country... some my stick by us(Germany would, I think), but I would imagine much of the EU would declare war on the US... and China or Russia may take advantage of the negative feelings...

But no consequences, no world implication... Canada would fall in a week...

joshrocks2245

The taliban hasn't fallen in years, so why do you think Canada would fall so easy?? It's amazing how people keep disrespecting the Canadian military like this, America has invaded 2 countries to try and stop terrorism and they haven't stopped it at all. They tried to capture Osama but they haven't been able to. But oh yeah, of course they can just walk into Canada and take over within a week :roll: It's the second largest country in the world, and we have a pretty good military.

I guess I must be responding to the same people who say things like "America is the best, every other country sucks"

The Taliban is not a miltary force... they are a loosely affiliated group of anti-American and EU terrorists who communicate occasionally and train together even less... they use suicide terror tactics and plant bombs... every time the US and Taliban forces get into a straight fight, the headline always reads "3 US Soldiers Wounded, 211 Taliban Dead"... they are always butchered, so they don't fight like a traditional military...

Afghanistans and IraqsArmy and Royal Guard were defeated in less then a week... those were traditional fighting forces, like the one Canada has, and they litterally gave up after a few days... they stood no chance... remember Desert Storm as well, when the US crushed Iraqs entire military in a little over a week... that was a traditonal fighting force, like Canada...

To compare what the Taliban does to what the Canadian miliraty does is stupid... they are not even the same thing...

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

This thread it pretty stupid...

Let me put it this way...

With the exception of China or maybe North Korea based on sheer numbers, no one could stand against the US for an extended period of time in straight warfare... Canadas military would fall almost instantly...

But thats the thing... the world would not sit by and let us bully an obviously weaker country... some my stick by us(Germany would, I think), but I would imagine much of the EU would declare war on the US... and China or Russia may take advantage of the negative feelings...

But no consequences, no world implication... Canada would fall in a week...

heysharpshooter

The taliban hasn't fallen in years, so why do you think Canada would fall so easy?? It's amazing how people keep disrespecting the Canadian military like this, America has invaded 2 countries to try and stop terrorism and they haven't stopped it at all. They tried to capture Osama but they haven't been able to. But oh yeah, of course they can just walk into Canada and take over within a week :roll: It's the second largest country in the world, and we have a pretty good military.

I guess I must be responding to the same people who say things like "America is the best, every other country sucks"

The Taliban is not a miltary force... they are a loosely affiliated group of anti-American and EU terrorists who communicate occasionally and train together even less... they use suicide terror tactics and plant bombs... every time the US and Taliban forces get into a straight fight, the headline always reads "3 US Soldiers Wounded, 211 Taliban Dead"... they are always butchered, so they don't fight like a traditional military...

Afghanistans and IraqsArmy and Royal Guard were defeated in less then a week... those were traditional fighting forces, like the one Canada has, and they litterally gave up after a few days... they stood no chance... remember Desert Storm as well, when the US crushed Iraqs entire military in a little over a week... that was a traditonal fighting force, like Canada...

To compare what the Taliban does to what the Canadian miliraty does is stupid... they are not even the same thing...

You seriously think Canadians military would just be crushed in a week?? We're a huge country with a pretty big military. Just because Americans military is bigger doesn't mean they could take on Canada in a week. It's funny how Americans think their whole country could beat the whole world in a war if they wanted to, surprised any Canadian soldiers even want to fight on the same team as Americans when your all so disrespectful. No wonder theres friendly fire sometimes.

I'll say this. U.S.A would be attacking, Canada would be defending it's own soil. Canada has a great sense of it's surroundings. The word "easily" should be taken out of the title because it would be far from easy.

It's taken how many years to "not" get rid of the Taliban. What makes you think fighting a modern army on it's soil would be easy?????

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

This thread it pretty stupid...

Let me put it this way...

With the exception of China or maybe North Korea based on sheer numbers, no one could stand against the US for an extended period of time in straight warfare... Canadas military would fall almost instantly...

But thats the thing... the world would not sit by and let us bully an obviously weaker country... some my stick by us(Germany would, I think), but I would imagine much of the EU would declare war on the US... and China or Russia may take advantage of the negative feelings...

But no consequences, no world implication... Canada would fall in a week...

heysharpshooter

The taliban hasn't fallen in years, so why do you think Canada would fall so easy?? It's amazing how people keep disrespecting the Canadian military like this, America has invaded 2 countries to try and stop terrorism and they haven't stopped it at all. They tried to capture Osama but they haven't been able to. But oh yeah, of course they can just walk into Canada and take over within a week :roll: It's the second largest country in the world, and we have a pretty good military.

I guess I must be responding to the same people who say things like "America is the best, every other country sucks"

The Taliban is not a miltary force... they are a loosely affiliated group of anti-American and EU terrorists who communicate occasionally and train together even less... they use suicide terror tactics and plant bombs... every time the US and Taliban forces get into a straight fight, the headline always reads "3 US Soldiers Wounded, 211 Taliban Dead"... they are always butchered, so they don't fight like a traditional military...

Afghanistans and IraqsArmy and Royal Guard were defeated in less then a week... those were traditional fighting forces, like the one Canada has, and they litterally gave up after a few days... they stood no chance... remember Desert Storm as well, when the US crushed Iraqs entire military in a little over a week... that was a traditonal fighting force, like Canada...

To compare what the Taliban does to what the Canadian miliraty does is stupid... they are not even the same thing...

Typical US modus operandi:

1. Spend 2 weeks amassing troops on border

2. Spend a week on aerial attack softening up key targets

3. Invade

Canadian Response:

1. Thumb noses at troops on border

2. Cut all power and energy flowing south

3. Watch as most major US cities erupt into social disorder

4. Crack a few cold ones as US sues for peace

5. Demand free lifetime admission to Disneyland for all Canadians as compensation

why do u keep thinking that country size = military prowess?

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

The taliban hasn't fallen in years, so why do you think Canada would fall so easy?? It's amazing how people keep disrespecting the Canadian military like this, America has invaded 2 countries to try and stop terrorism and they haven't stopped it at all. They tried to capture Osama but they haven't been able to. But oh yeah, of course they can just walk into Canada and take over within a week :roll: It's the second largest country in the world, and we have a pretty good military.

I guess I must be responding to the same people who say things like "America is the best, every other country sucks"

SUD123456

The Taliban is not a miltary force... they are a loosely affiliated group of anti-American and EU terrorists who communicate occasionally and train together even less... they use suicide terror tactics and plant bombs... every time the US and Taliban forces get into a straight fight, the headline always reads "3 US Soldiers Wounded, 211 Taliban Dead"... they are always butchered, so they don't fight like a traditional military...

Afghanistans and IraqsArmy and Royal Guard were defeated in less then a week... those were traditional fighting forces, like the one Canada has, and they litterally gave up after a few days... they stood no chance... remember Desert Storm as well, when the US crushed Iraqs entire military in a little over a week... that was a traditonal fighting force, like Canada...

To compare what the Taliban does to what the Canadian miliraty does is stupid... they are not even the same thing...

Typical US modus operandi:

1. Spend 2 weeks amassing troops on border

2. Spend a week on aerial attack softening up key targets

3. Invade

Canadian Response:

1. Thumb noses at troops on border

2. Cut all power and energy flowing south

3. Watch as most major US cities erupt into social disorder

4. Crack a few cold ones as US sues for peace

5. Demand free lifetime admission to Disneyland for all Canadians as compensation

This is a joke, right? You are aware this is total non-sense... like, its pretty funny...

If Canada did have the power to cut energy flowing South, America would merely get their oil from somewhere else... and in a few days, Canada would be a smoldering mess and the US would have total control over oil reserves...

Your strategy is the same one Sadam Hussien tried to use... you think Canada would make it work?

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

The Taliban is not a miltary force... they are a loosely affiliated group of anti-American and EU terrorists who communicate occasionally and train together even less... they use suicide terror tactics and plant bombs... every time the US and Taliban forces get into a straight fight, the headline always reads "3 US Soldiers Wounded, 211 Taliban Dead"... they are always butchered, so they don't fight like a traditional military...

Afghanistans and IraqsArmy and Royal Guard were defeated in less then a week... those were traditional fighting forces, like the one Canada has, and they litterally gave up after a few days... they stood no chance... remember Desert Storm as well, when the US crushed Iraqs entire military in a little over a week... that was a traditonal fighting force, like Canada...

To compare what the Taliban does to what the Canadian miliraty does is stupid... they are not even the same thing...

heysharpshooter

Typical US modus operandi:

1. Spend 2 weeks amassing troops on border

2. Spend a week on aerial attack softening up key targets

3. Invade

Canadian Response:

1. Thumb noses at troops on border

2. Cut all power and energy flowing south

3. Watch as most major US cities erupt into social disorder

4. Crack a few cold ones as US sues for peace

5. Demand free lifetime admission to Disneyland for all Canadians as compensation

This is a joke, right? You are aware this is total non-sense... like, its pretty funny...

If Canada did have the power to cut energy flowing South, America would merely get their oil from somewhere else... and in a few days, Canada would be a smoldering mess and the US would have total control over oil reserves...

Your strategy is the same one Sadam Hussien tried to use... you think Canada would make it work?

Regardless, you're dealing with a highly trained first-world military here, not some third-world outfit. To assume you'd make Canada a smouldering mess in a few days is presumptuous at best. You wouldn't just be fighting Canada anyway.

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

Typical US modus operandi:

1. Spend 2 weeks amassing troops on border

2. Spend a week on aerial attack softening up key targets

3. Invade

Canadian Response:

1. Thumb noses at troops on border

2. Cut all power and energy flowing south

3. Watch as most major US cities erupt into social disorder

4. Crack a few cold ones as US sues for peace

5. Demand free lifetime admission to Disneyland for all Canadians as compensation

raynimrod

This is a joke, right? You are aware this is total non-sense... like, its pretty funny...

If Canada did have the power to cut energy flowing South, America would merely get their oil from somewhere else... and in a few days, Canada would be a smoldering mess and the US would have total control over oil reserves...

Your strategy is the same one Sadam Hussien tried to use... you think Canada would make it work?

Regardless, you're dealing with a highly trained first-world military here, not some third-world outfit. To assume you'd make Canada a smouldering mess in a few days is presumptuous at best. You wouldn't just be fighting Canada anyway.

I find it funny that 30-40 years ago the U.S was defeated by a bunch of guys with AK-47's crawling through tunnels in the jungle. Today, they can't even beat a bunch of guys with AK-47's that are hiding in caves. But oh how fast they'd blow away a real army.......:roll:

Canada could win a war against the US, one on one. Quantity means nothing.

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

This is a joke, right? You are aware this is total non-sense... like, its pretty funny...

If Canada did have the power to cut energy flowing South, America would merely get their oil from somewhere else... and in a few days, Canada would be a smoldering mess and the US would have total control over oil reserves...

Your strategy is the same one Sadam Hussien tried to use... you think Canada would make it work?

Mikey132

Regardless, you're dealing with a highly trained first-world military here, not some third-world outfit. To assume you'd make Canada a smouldering mess in a few days is presumptuous at best. You wouldn't just be fighting Canada anyway.

I find it funny that 30-40 years ago the U.S was defeated by a bunch of guys with AK-47's crawling through tunnels in the jungle. Today, they can't even beat a bunch of guys with AK-47's that are hiding in caves. But oh how fast they'd blow away a real army.......:roll:

Its much, much harder to defeat a gurillea force in a forgien country far away from your own then a standing, traditional military across the border...

The US would so quickly defeat Canada it would not even be a fight... the US can crush any standing fighting force in the world easily except for China and North Korea... the US would defeat North Korea, but it would take a long time because of the size of their standing army(about a million)...

As for China... I really don't want to think of the hell on earth a war between them would be...

I honestly don't see why I am arguing this... its just all the ridiculous responses... they are making me become an idiot...

What's all this aboot, eh?JustPlainLucas

Canada and the U.S are at war again. I'm thinking of uping my internet connection to the 125mm. this 88mm ain't getting the effect I want. I think they may breach my first defensive line soon if I can't put together a counter attack.

[QUOTE="Mikey132"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

Regardless, you're dealing with a highly trained first-world military here, not some third-world outfit. To assume you'd make Canada a smouldering mess in a few days is presumptuous at best. You wouldn't just be fighting Canada anyway.

heysharpshooter

I find it funny that 30-40 years ago the U.S was defeated by a bunch of guys with AK-47's crawling through tunnels in the jungle. Today, they can't even beat a bunch of guys with AK-47's that are hiding in caves. But oh how fast they'd blow away a real army.......:roll:

Its much, much harder to defeat a gurillea force in a forgien country far away from your own then a standing, traditional military across the border...

The US would so quickly defeat Canada it would not even be a fight... the US can crush any standing fighting force in the world easily except for China and North Korea... the US would defeat North Korea, but it would take a long time because of the size of their standing army(about a million)...

As for China... I really don't want to think of the hell on earth a war between them would be...

I honestly don't see why I am arguing this... its just all the ridiculous responses... they are making me become an idiot...

Honestly.......So you can crush Russia easily? The British?

how about this. What if Canada abandon all it's military equiptment and just picked up an Assault rifle and dug a hole. My god, I just figured out how to beat the U.S Army.

I really have no way to grasp how you figure you'll fair so much easier againts a regular army than a rebel army. All Canada has to do is use rebel tactics with a conventional army and you are seriously SCREWED! :)

The Taliban is not a miltary force... they are a loosely affiliated group of anti-American and EU terrorists who communicate occasionally and train together even less... they use suicide terror tactics and plant bombs... every time the US and Taliban forces get into a straight fight, the headline always reads "3 US Soldiers Wounded, 211 Taliban Dead"... they are always butchered, so they don't fight like a traditional military...

Afghanistans and IraqsArmy and Royal Guard were defeated in less then a week... those were traditional fighting forces, like the one Canada has, and they litterally gave up after a few days... they stood no chance... remember Desert Storm as well, when the US crushed Iraqs entire military in a little over a week... that was a traditonal fighting force, like Canada...

To compare what the Taliban does to what the Canadian miliraty does is stupid... they are not even the same thing...

heysharpshooter

Which begs the question: what makes you so sure the Canadian military would choose to fight a traditional campaign against the US, instead of going straight to guerrilla/insurgent tactics?

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

Typical US modus operandi:

1. Spend 2 weeks amassing troops on border

2. Spend a week on aerial attack softening up key targets

3. Invade

Canadian Response:

1. Thumb noses at troops on border

2. Cut all power and energy flowing south

3. Watch as most major US cities erupt into social disorder

4. Crack a few cold ones as US sues for peace

5. Demand free lifetime admission to Disneyland for all Canadians as compensation

raynimrod

This is a joke, right? You are aware this is total non-sense... like, its pretty funny...

If Canada did have the power to cut energy flowing South, America would merely get their oil from somewhere else... and in a few days, Canada would be a smoldering mess and the US would have total control over oil reserves...

Your strategy is the same one Sadam Hussien tried to use... you think Canada would make it work?

Regardless, you're dealing with a highly trained first-world military here, not some third-world outfit. To assume you'd make Canada a smouldering mess in a few days is presumptuous at best. You wouldn't just be fighting Canada anyway.

Well, I'm tempted to think that a modern war involving two neighboring countries fought in a conventional manner would end very quickly regardless of how the odds are stacked.

tl;dr

canadian here, of course you could blast us into the stone age, so, the invasion would be a succeess

but i'm fairly confident in our international allies and the inevitable underground resistance utterly destroying the usa in time.





some short info: we have 400 tanks, pakistan has 6000, USA 30000
we have 4 submarines, built in the 60's, by england, 1 leaks, 1 caught on fire, 1 hasn't been launched since we bought it, and the other is probably laughed at by passing whales
we invented the jet engine, and just spent a bunch of money on some kick-ass top-of-the line jets, about 80 of them, i believe the USA has about 5000 jet fighters
IN WW1 our top general issued 20 000 Left boots and 0 Right boots.

and just going by population, the USA has about 300 million people, we have about 30 million, so every canadian would have to kill 10 americans to come out even.
(also fun tidbit, with 1/10th the population our dollar is just as good as urs :) )

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

This is a joke, right? You are aware this is total non-sense... like, its pretty funny...

If Canada did have the power to cut energy flowing South, America would merely get their oil from somewhere else... and in a few days, Canada would be a smoldering mess and the US would have total control over oil reserves...

Your strategy is the same one Sadam Hussien tried to use... you think Canada would make it work?

coolbeans90

Regardless, you're dealing with a highly trained first-world military here, not some third-world outfit. To assume you'd make Canada a smouldering mess in a few days is presumptuous at best. You wouldn't just be fighting Canada anyway.

Well, I'm tempted to think that a modern war involving two neighboring countries fought in a conventional manner would end very quickly regardless of how the odds are stacked.

Though by the same token, it wouldn't surprise me if it was dragged out for a long time with very little happening, as both sides are wary of advancing.

Its much, much harder to defeat a gurillea force in a forgien country far away from your own then a standing, traditional military across the border...

The US would so quickly defeat Canada it would not even be a fight... the US can crush any standing fighting force in the world easily except for China and North Korea... the US would defeat North Korea, but it would take a long time because of the size of their standing army(about a million)...

As for China... I really don't want to think of the hell on earth a war between them would be...

I honestly don't see why I am arguing this... its just all the ridiculous responses... they are making me become an idiot...

heysharpshooter

Firstly, you're assuming that Canada would fight as a conventional military if faced with the reality of an invasion from the US. Secondly, as I already stated, these are highly trained military personal with first-world equipment. Even though your numbers are far superior, it wouldn't be a walkover.

Thirdly, it's extremely ignorant of you to assume that the US could crush the UK and Russia in a military conflict.

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

The Taliban is not a miltary force... they are a loosely affiliated group of anti-American and EU terrorists who communicate occasionally and train together even less... they use suicide terror tactics and plant bombs... every time the US and Taliban forces get into a straight fight, the headline always reads "3 US Soldiers Wounded, 211 Taliban Dead"... they are always butchered, so they don't fight like a traditional military...

Afghanistans and IraqsArmy and Royal Guard were defeated in less then a week... those were traditional fighting forces, like the one Canada has, and they litterally gave up after a few days... they stood no chance... remember Desert Storm as well, when the US crushed Iraqs entire military in a little over a week... that was a traditonal fighting force, like Canada...

To compare what the Taliban does to what the Canadian miliraty does is stupid... they are not even the same thing...

heysharpshooter

Typical US modus operandi:

1. Spend 2 weeks amassing troops on border

2. Spend a week on aerial attack softening up key targets

3. Invade

Canadian Response:

1. Thumb noses at troops on border

2. Cut all power and energy flowing south

3. Watch as most major US cities erupt into social disorder

4. Crack a few cold ones as US sues for peace

5. Demand free lifetime admission to Disneyland for all Canadians as compensation

This is a joke, right? You are aware this is total non-sense... like, its pretty funny...

If Canada did have the power to cut energy flowing South, America would merely get their oil from somewhere else... and in a few days, Canada would be a smoldering mess and the US would have total control over oil reserves...

Your strategy is the same one Sadam Hussien tried to use... you think Canada would make it work?

Yep, I was deadly serious.

However, now that you wish to wrap yourself in the flag and get all nationalistic. You do realize that we could blackout half your population centers in under an hour?And you do realize that we are the largest external supplier of oil and natural gas to your country and that we could also cut those pipelines in an hour?

Fun facts.

The largest supply ofnatural gasin N America is the WCSB...which stands for Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin. When New Mexico lost natural gas service to 30,000 customers in Feb it took a week for the national guard and utility workers from all over the US to relight/restore service for those customers. What do you think would happen when 20 million homes are cut-off?

Oil. Comes from our tarsands. Again. We are your largest supplier. It comes via pipelines from the north. Good luck getting that via ship from the MiddleEast. Another fun fact. There aren't enough supertankers in the world. You see people don't just have unused supertankers lying around. They are already in service. You would have to build new ones. Good luck with that.

Electricity/Power is my fav though.You might recall 2003 when 65 million people went without power across the NE United States when a relatively small problem cascaded across the integrated power network. You might recall the space shuttle photos showing the whole NE blacked out. And alas, your entire grid is connected to ours and you are heavily dependent upon our electricity exports. We could fry your grid faster than you can type a response. Oh, wait your computer will be down so there won't be a response :)

I don't think you quite appreciate how interconnected our countries have become. I could go on and on, but what's the point really?

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

Its much, much harder to defeat a gurillea force in a forgien country far away from your own then a standing, traditional military across the border...

The US would so quickly defeat Canada it would not even be a fight... the US can crush any standing fighting force in the world easily except for China and North Korea... the US would defeat North Korea, but it would take a long time because of the size of their standing army(about a million)...

As for China... I really don't want to think of the hell on earth a war between them would be...

I honestly don't see why I am arguing this... its just all the ridiculous responses... they are making me become an idiot...

Firstly, you're assuming that Canada would fight as a conventional military if faced with the reality of an invasion from the US. Secondly, as I already stated, these are highly trained military personal with first-world equipment. Even though your numbers are far superior, it wouldn't be a walkover.

Thirdly, it's extremely ignorant of you to assume that the US could crush the UK and Russia in a military conflict.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

Regardless, you're dealing with a highly trained first-world military here, not some third-world outfit. To assume you'd make Canada a smouldering mess in a few days is presumptuous at best. You wouldn't just be fighting Canada anyway.

raynimrod

Well, I'm tempted to think that a modern war involving two neighboring countries fought in a conventional manner would end very quickly regardless of how the odds are stacked.

Though by the same token, it wouldn't surprise me if it was dragged out for a long time with very little happening, as both sides are wary of advancing.

Depending on how much the line move from intial fighting, one side may not even want to advance at all. I couldn't see Canada counter attacking to advance into U.S territory. Why would we want to? I'd go with it being a drawn out affair. Here in southern ontario, unless you are right beside Lake Erie or Ontario the terrian is rough. A escarpment that runs for around 500km is one hell of a ridge to try to take.

Southern Ontario High-Five, keep in mind, half of canada lives between Windsor and Quebec City, and i thinks it's like 70% of canada lives within 100 km of the border, they wouldn't have to come that far to take us out.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

Regardless, you're dealing with a highly trained first-world military here, not some third-world outfit. To assume you'd make Canada a smouldering mess in a few days is presumptuous at best. You wouldn't just be fighting Canada anyway.

raynimrod

Well, I'm tempted to think that a modern war involving two neighboring countries fought in a conventional manner would end very quickly regardless of how the odds are stacked.

Though by the same token, it wouldn't surprise me if it was dragged out for a long time with very little happening, as both sides are wary of advancing.

Either nothing happens, in which case it's not really much of a war, or they target each other's infrastructure which can in anyway support the opposition's military. (power, phones, other utilities, roads, satellites, wireless communications of all frequencies) They also target military bases (targeting personnel, armor, other vehicles, missile depots, grounded aircraft etc.) using long range firepower. (missiles and aircraft) None of which requires presence. That would go down virtually immediately. In the mean time they'll amass invasion forces and move towards borders. That would take days, perhaps a week. By the time that happens, the war might as well be over, unless both militaries manage to stay intact while absorbing an absolutely unthinkable amount of firepower and disruptions targeting support and communications.

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

The taliban hasn't fallen in years, so why do you think Canada would fall so easy?? It's amazing how people keep disrespecting the Canadian military like this, America has invaded 2 countries to try and stop terrorism and they haven't stopped it at all. They tried to capture Osama but they haven't been able to. But oh yeah, of course they can just walk into Canada and take over within a week :roll: It's the second largest country in the world, and we have a pretty good military.

I guess I must be responding to the same people who say things like "America is the best, every other country sucks"

joshrocks2245

The Taliban is not a miltary force... they are a loosely affiliated group of anti-American and EU terrorists who communicate occasionally and train together even less... they use suicide terror tactics and plant bombs... every time the US and Taliban forces get into a straight fight, the headline always reads "3 US Soldiers Wounded, 211 Taliban Dead"... they are always butchered, so they don't fight like a traditional military...

Afghanistans and IraqsArmy and Royal Guard were defeated in less then a week... those were traditional fighting forces, like the one Canada has, and they litterally gave up after a few days... they stood no chance... remember Desert Storm as well, when the US crushed Iraqs entire military in a little over a week... that was a traditonal fighting force, like Canada...

To compare what the Taliban does to what the Canadian miliraty does is stupid... they are not even the same thing...

You seriously think Canadians military would just be crushed in a week?? We're a huge country with a pretty big military. Just because Americans military is bigger doesn't mean they could take on Canada in a week. It's funny how Americans think their whole country could beat the whole world in a war if they wanted to, surprised any Canadian soldiers even want to fight on the same team as Americans when your all so disrespectful. No wonder theres friendly fire sometimes.

he said iraq army gave up in a week and that's from a third world country who's tech is like 1970's to us. Rest crap he said is a joke.

Canada would put up better fight but would still lose (stats proves it) navy 4x bigger airforce 8x bigger, army 14x bigger

but your even more of a joke for comparing the Taliban to a country... Taliban is group of people in these third world countrys. You can't just go around destroy the government and call it a win. Plus Osama is dead lol. i seen a video really talking about it and make some good points. Just find it really funny that past videos of him was prove that he was left handed... but these videos from few year back shows him being right handed lol

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

Its much, much harder to defeat a gurillea force in a forgien country far away from your own then a standing, traditional military across the border...

The US would so quickly defeat Canada it would not even be a fight... the US can crush any standing fighting force in the world easily except for China and North Korea... the US would defeat North Korea, but it would take a long time because of the size of their standing army(about a million)...

As for China... I really don't want to think of the hell on earth a war between them would be...

I honestly don't see why I am arguing this... its just all the ridiculous responses... they are making me become an idiot...

BlackDevil99

Firstly, you're assuming that Canada would fight as a conventional military if faced with the reality of an invasion from the US. Secondly, as I already stated, these are highly trained military personal with first-world equipment. Even though your numbers are far superior, it wouldn't be a walkover.

Thirdly, it's extremely ignorant of you to assume that the US could crush the UK and Russia in a military conflict.

I don't care where you're from - the statement is equally ignorant.

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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Well, I'm tempted to think that a modern war involving two neighboring countries fought in a conventional manner would end very quickly regardless of how the odds are stacked.

coolbeans90

Though by the same token, it wouldn't surprise me if it was dragged out for a long time with very little happening, as both sides are wary of advancing.

Either nothing happens, in which case it's not really much of a war, or they target each other's infrastructure which can in anyway support the opposition's military. (power, phones, other utilities, roads, satellites, wireless communications of all frequencies) They also target military bases (targeting personnel, armor, other vehicles, missile depots, grounded aircraft etc.) using long range firepower. (missiles and aircraft) None of which requires presence. That would go down virtually immediately. In the mean time they'll amass invasion forces and move towards borders. That would take days, perhaps a week. By the time that happens, the war might as well be over, unless both militaries manage to stay intact while absorbing an absolutely unthinkable amount of firepower and disruptions targeting support and communications.

Yeah, that's the alternative. But just think about all the stuff that can happen in a week. The UK (and maybe the Aussies) would have a military presence in Canada by then. Any chance of an easy victory could well have dwindelled.

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

This is purely a HYPOTHETICAL question that is only concerned with the technical capabilities of each country. I know that a war between each of these countries is highly improbable, but I'm only concerned with knowing which military would come out on top if something like this did happen.

theone86

Just my inner psychiatrist taking a critical look at something. Now tell me, what do you think of when you look at this:

Southern Ontario High-Five, keep in mind, half of canada lives between Windsor and Quebec City, and i thinks it's like 70% of canada lives within 100 km of the border, they wouldn't have to come that far to take us out.

BlackDevil99

A bigger question is who wants Canada, yeah it is not very strong militarily I'm sure but it's just tundra, what benefit would we get by taking over Canada?

metroidprime55

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

Though by the same token, it wouldn't surprise me if it was dragged out for a long time with very little happening, as both sides are wary of advancing.

raynimrod

Either nothing happens, in which case it's not really much of a war, or they target each other's infrastructure which can in anyway support the opposition's military. (power, phones, other utilities, roads, satellites, wireless communications of all frequencies) They also target military bases (targeting personnel, armor, other vehicles, missile depots, grounded aircraft etc.) using long range firepower. (missiles and aircraft) None of which requires presence. That would go down virtually immediately. In the mean time they'll amass invasion forces and move towards borders. That would take days, perhaps a week. By the time that happens, the war might as well be over, unless both militaries manage to stay intact while absorbing an absolutely unthinkable amount of firepower and disruptions targeting support and communications.

Yeah, that's the alternative. But just think about all the stuff that can happen in a week. The UK (and maybe the Aussies) would have a military presence in Canada by then. Any chance of an easy victory could well have dwindelled.

Well, that depends. Unless Canada just surrendered, there would definitely be leftover infantry for quite a while in any case, bolstered by some of the civilian populous. The only issue I see with with foreign aid is boats. They would be needed to move troops and equipment across either the Atlantic of the Pacific, and they are slow, moving targets. If the U.S. decided to go all America on the world, then a huge amount of naval conflict would ensue. Even were the U.S. Navy to get their asses handed to them, then the boats would still be targets of long range firepower. I'm almost not even sure that it's possible to move an invasion force across the sea against nations with modern militaries anymore, given that boats are easily detectable and ground and air based missiles could obliterate any fleet. However, if the E.U., Russia, and whoever else had firepower projection were able to marginalize the U.S.'s capacity to destroy boats thousands of miles away, then things could play out quite differently.

[QUOTE="metroidprime55"]

A bigger question is who wants Canada, yeah it is not very strong militarily I'm sure but it's just tundra, what benefit would we get by taking over Canada?

Cheesehead9099

That's why we invaded Iraq. :)

[spoiler] Yes, I am kidding. [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Either nothing happens, in which case it's not really much of a war, or they target each other's infrastructure which can in anyway support the opposition's military. (power, phones, other utilities, roads, satellites, wireless communications of all frequencies) They also target military bases (targeting personnel, armor, other vehicles, missile depots, grounded aircraft etc.) using long range firepower. (missiles and aircraft) None of which requires presence. That would go down virtually immediately. In the mean time they'll amass invasion forces and move towards borders. That would take days, perhaps a week. By the time that happens, the war might as well be over, unless both militaries manage to stay intact while absorbing an absolutely unthinkable amount of firepower and disruptions targeting support and communications.

coolbeans90

Yeah, that's the alternative. But just think about all the stuff that can happen in a week. The UK (and maybe the Aussies) would have a military presence in Canada by then. Any chance of an easy victory could well have dwindelled.

Well, that depends. Unless Canada just surrendered, there would definitely be leftover infantry for quite a while in any case, bolstered by some of the civilian populous. The only issue I see with with foreign aid is boats. They would be needed to move troops and equipment across either the Atlantic of the Pacific, and they are slow, moving targets. If the U.S. decided to go all America on the world, then a huge amount of naval conflict would ensue. Even were the U.S. Navy to get their asses handed to them, then the boats would still be targets of long range firepower. I'm almost not even sure that it's possible to move an invasion force across the sea against nations with modern militaries anymore, given that boats are easily detectable and ground and air based missiles could obliterate any fleet. However, if the E.U., Russia, and whoever else had firepower projection were able to marginalize the U.S.'s capacity to destroy boats thousands of miles away, then things could play out quite differently.

I agree with you for the most part - transporting troops and vehicles by sea is slow and becomes an easy target. However, they'd be able to deploy troops and vehicles by air using C-17s and C-130s (for example).

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

Yeah, that's the alternative. But just think about all the stuff that can happen in a week. The UK (and maybe the Aussies) would have a military presence in Canada by then. Any chance of an easy victory could well have dwindelled.

raynimrod

Well, that depends. Unless Canada just surrendered, there would definitely be leftover infantry for quite a while in any case, bolstered by some of the civilian populous. The only issue I see with with foreign aid is boats. They would be needed to move troops and equipment across either the Atlantic of the Pacific, and they are slow, moving targets. If the U.S. decided to go all America on the world, then a huge amount of naval conflict would ensue. Even were the U.S. Navy to get their asses handed to them, then the boats would still be targets of long range firepower. I'm almost not even sure that it's possible to move an invasion force across the sea against nations with modern militaries anymore, given that boats are easily detectable and ground and air based missiles could obliterate any fleet. However, if the E.U., Russia, and whoever else had firepower projection were able to marginalize the U.S.'s capacity to destroy boats thousands of miles away, then things could play out quite differently.

I agree with you for the most part - transporting troops and vehicles by sea is slow and becomes an easy target. However, they'd be able to deploy troops and vehicles by air using C-17s and C-130s (for example).

Yeah, that would largely minimize a lot of the problems. The only reason I didn't mention it was capacity. I don't know exactly how much transportation can be done through air. (especially with vehicles and such)

Canada here. Canadian patriotism is so weak that we wouldn't bother fighting back. The US would make idiots out of themselves trying to fight whatever little army we have, ruin their economy, and finally occupy Canada. To what end? Who knows. There will be a massive influx of Americans into the Canadian cities, that's all I know.F1_2004

Oh yeah, WE STILL WON THE WAR!!!

*waves flag singing God bless America*

[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

The entire thing would be over when the first tank crossed the border.

Canada isn't really a military power. They don't really need to be though. Not every country needs a military capable of massive, global scale domination.

Think about what? I don't see any advantage they hold. Unless they harbor some kind of previously unseen weapon capable of enormous destruction, like some biological agent, the difference in power is overwhelming.