How Soon Till Legalization Day?

[QUOTE="nicknees93"][QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]

I can see why you made this thread then :roll:

Juggernaut140

actually, considering you have no idea what circumstances I may be in, thats an extremely harsh generalization. first of all, my grandmother suffers from glaucoma greatly, and i happen to love her, that is just one of the reasons it should be legal. two, i dont think i'm a "badass" but i do think its a fun thing to do with friends on occasion.

[QUOTE="leonard88"]Maybe if you give a valid arguement to the government then maybe tommorow, but I doubt anyone could.AlphaRail

Maybe if you give a valid arguement to the government then maybe tommorow, but I doubt anyone could.leonard88

I hope never. And I hope the percentage of teens that uses it grows up and stops looking for any way to get high. I hate drugs and what they do to people. majoras_wrath

you're assuming only teens use it?

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]I hope never. And I hope the percentage of teens that uses it grows up and stops looking for any way to get high. I hate drugs and what they do to people. links136

you're assuming only teens use it?

I hope never. And I hope the percentage of teens that uses it grows up and stops looking for any way to get high. I hate drugs and what they do to people. majoras_wrath

I think the government should just look from the alcohol prohibition and learn from it.links136

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]I hope never. And I hope the percentage of teens that uses it grows up and stops looking for any way to get high. I hate drugs and what they do to people. nicknees93

[QUOTE="nicknees93"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]I hope never. And I hope the percentage of teens that uses it grows up and stops looking for any way to get high. I hate drugs and what they do to people. majoras_wrath

[QUOTE="nicknees93"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]I hope never. And I hope the percentage of teens that uses it grows up and stops looking for any way to get high. I hate drugs and what they do to people. majoras_wrath

It's already legal but you'll need a cannabis card and a health condition so you can use it freely for medicinal purposes.one_on_one

I wouldn't hold your breath. And I'm pretty sure that the only positive thing about it, from the Gov's standpoint, is that they could tax the hell out of it.

What we should all be waiting for is the day that cigarettes are finally outlawed.

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]Ok, fine, what about smoking opium? Almost just as bad as heroin. Just because something grows on the ground doesn't mean it is good for you, have you ever tried smoking poison ivy? That argument that "pot is a plant therefore=good" is illogical and baseless.nicknees93

First off

1. Who cares if you can't overdose? It doesn't make it good for you. It merely leads to memory lose and general apathy.
2. Yes you can be addicted. Not all addictions are physical mind you. Psychological addiction is very real
3. You become more peaceful yes, but how is this necessarily a good thing? Sometimes you need to be alert, such as driving.
4. False again, I've heard of plenty of high kids engaging in one-night stands. Some of my friends have even done so, without alchohol

Maybe you should know what marijuana does before you smoke it, as per you said about poison ivy. Not that that matters though, as you'll probably dismiss it as "goverment propaganda man".

Why doesn't anyone trust humans enough to make choices for themselves?

This goes for everything. Alcohol - cigarettes - cannabis. I'll make an exception for hard drugs because they're a lot more harmful than the others, but who are you hurting smoking cannabis? No one.

[QUOTE="nicknees93"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]Ok, fine, what about smoking opium? Almost just as bad as heroin. Just because something grows on the ground doesn't mean it is good for you, have you ever tried smoking poison ivy? That argument that "pot is a plant therefore=good" is illogical and baseless.majoras_wrath

First off

1. Who cares if you can't overdose? It doesn't make it good for you. It merely leads to memory lose and general apathy.
2. Yes you can be addicted. Not all addictions are physical mind you. Psychological addiction is very real
3. You become more peaceful yes, but how is this necessarily a good thing? Sometimes you need to be alert, such as driving.
4. False again, I've heard of plenty of high kids engaging in one-night stands. Some of my friends have even done so, without alchohol

Maybe you should know what marijuana does before you smoke it, as per you said about poison ivy. Not that that matters though, as you'll probably dismiss it as "goverment propaganda man".

trust me, i know the facts, laws, advantages, and disadvantages of smoking or in any way using marijuana (eating brownies, cookies, etc.). if it were legal obviously you wouldn't be legally allowed to drive, as with alcohol. it is extremely dangerous as your depth perception can be greatly altered. but thats what laws are for. they put restrictions on drinking and driving, drinking in public, and being drunk in public. so they would do the same with marijuana.

I hope never. And I hope the percentage of teens that uses it grows up and stops looking for any way to get high. I hate drugs and what they do to people. majoras_wrath

It's already legal but you'll need a cannabis card and a health condition so you can use it freely for medicinal purposes.one_on_one

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] thats sad for them. control is another important factor when getting high. some people lack the self control. it is, however, easier to control yourself on cannibus than it is on say... alcohol or ectasy.RaistlinMajere8

thats true. the thing is, the more you smoke, the more tolerant your body becomes. of course this is over a long period of time. some people may take longer to become tolerant enough to go out in public without being seen as a complete idiot. some are always relaxed, from the very first time, and can even drive better. but your right, since it is so unpredictable, it is tough for the government to legalize it. alcohol affects everyone in the same basic way, and i guess thats why its legal.

Then how is your argument logical to you at all if you can concede that point? You are absolutely right, it is too unpredictable.

EDIT: I just toally messed up those quotes, mah bad

okay i have a bone to pick with you major wrath. you are judging something like pot probably with a bias from something or someone that has hurt you orembarrassedyou. pot is harmless. so why be against it? do you not understand the depth of this subject. one million people are in prison today for this victimless crime!!!!!! most of them just for POSSESSION do you not understand in your ownnarcissismthat people lives are affected by this very real issue. when DEA teams raid homes in search of pot innocent people get KILLED. hundreds each year. grandparents. children. mothers. fathers. killed by overzealous cops! and half of them were doing nothing but laying in bed when the DEA commited a no knock raid. and you know what? half of these no knock raids were AT THE WRONG ADDRESS. innocent people killed. all because of pot. you can't even begin to understand the wrongs our government has done to us people regarding pot. no idea at all.RaistlinMajere8

yes it is unpredictable but no one has evercommitteda murder from just pot! no one ever went on a killing frenzy. the worst thing is a severe allergic reaction or panic attacks. but i could name hundreds of other things that could cause the exact same thing, and yet they're not illegal.RaistlinMajere8

Then how is your argument logical to you at all if you can concede that point? You are absolutely right, it is too unpredictable.

EDIT: I just toally messed up those quotes, mah bad

because i believe in factual information, not useless opinion. although i am pro marijuana, there are a few things that make the prohibition make sense. some of the side effects ARE too unpredictable. however, the side effects are usually so harmless, that it makes almost no sense that this plant is illegal. i can still agree with someone i'm arguing with without conceding to you. my argument is still strong enough to hold up against yours. but i respect the fact that your argument is strong enough to stand up against mine.

nicknees93

Then how is your argument logical to you at all if you can concede that point? You are absolutely right, it is too unpredictable.

EDIT: I just toally messed up those quotes, mah bad

because i believe in factual information, not useless opinion. although i am pro marijuana, there are a few things that make the prohibition make sense. some of the side effects ARE too unpredictable. however, the side effects are usually so harmless, that it makes almost no sense that this plant is illegal. i can still agree with someone i'm arguing with without conceding to you. my argument is still strong enough to hold up against yours. but i respect the fact that your argument is strong enough to stand up against mine.

nicknees93

Then how is your argument logical to you at all if you can concede that point? You are absolutely right, it is too unpredictable.

EDIT: I just toally messed up those quotes, mah bad

because i believe in factual information, not useless opinion. although i am pro marijuana, there are a few things that make the prohibition make sense. some of the side effects ARE too unpredictable. however, the side effects are usually so harmless, that it makes almost no sense that this plant is illegal. i can still agree with someone i'm arguing with without conceding to you. my argument is still strong enough to hold up against yours. but i respect the fact that your argument is strong enough to stand up against mine.

well i live in colorado. one of the biggest pot head states in these here united states. and i watch the news every night. i know this state. i know when a bunch of teens die. i know because it happened at my school. but you know what out of all these fatal crashes through out the state. they're all caused by drunk driving. go on the internet my friend and look up the statistics for drunk driving fatalities and then go look up the pot influence driving fatalities. and you know how i also know. personal experience. every time i have been behind the wheel i have been high. or smoking while driving. and you know what in five years of driving i've never been in one accident. and have never gotten a ticket. i've been high for probably four years straight and i am still going. still driving to become better. so you have no idea sir.RaistlinMajere8

well i live in colorado. one of the biggest pot head states in these here united states. and i watch the news every night. i know this state. i know when a bunch of teens die. i know because it happened at my school. but you know what out of all these fatal crashes through out the state. they're all caused by drunk driving. go on the internet my friend and look up the statistics for drunk driving fatalities and then go look up the pot influence driving fatalities. and you know how i also know. personal experience. every time i have been behind the wheel i have been high. or smoking while driving. and you know what in five years of driving i've never been in one accident. and have never gotten a ticket. i've been high for probably four years straight and i am still going. still driving to become better. so you have no idea sir.RaistlinMajere8

dude its easy. i mean i go all over. four wheeling. long road trips. every time man. you just gotta be able to focus. some people can't do that on pot.RaistlinMajere8

[QUOTE="RaistlinMajere8"]yes it is unpredictable but no one has evercommitteda murder from just pot! no one ever went on a killing frenzy. the worst thing is a severe allergic reaction or panic attacks. but i could name hundreds of other things that could cause the exact same thing, and yet they're not illegal.majoras_wrath

Imagine if thats all it took to make something illegal. Question, do you also believe junk food should be illegal?

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]I hope never. And I hope the percentage of teens that uses it grows up and stops looking for any way to get high. I hate drugs and what they do to people. RaistlinMajere8