[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Hopefully never.Bloodbath_87Why do you say that?
don't mind him, he's as conservative as they get
How Soon Till Legalization Day?
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My generation will be the generation to legalize. I'm only 16 so we have a while to go. It is a shame though that we're losing the war on drugs so badly. I mean, they spend billions on preventing drugs, and a lot of that money goes into marijuana prevention. And yet, its a billion dollar industry. If it were legal, the recession would be over a lot sooner. And no I'm not saying that marijuana alone would end the recession, I'm saying it would HELP.nicknees93Not trying to sound patronizing, but you sound incredibly smart for a 16 year old. :)
Why do you say that?[QUOTE="Bloodbath_87"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Hopefully never.links136
don't mind him, he's as conservative as they get
I stand by the Constitution. :)here's the basis for why it is a safe plant. 1. you cannot overdose 2. you cannot become addicted 3. you become more peaceful, meaning you will not become violent like some cocaine and alcohol users do 4. you cannot do something sexually you may regret as ectasy and alcohol users sometimes do any person knows not to smoke poison ivy, as you stated in your example, because they know what poison ivy does. and yes, smoking opium, or using the poppies from an opium plant to make heroin is very dangerous. but again, knowing the effects of what your putting into your system can help make a decision on whether to put it in there or not. i choose not to eat mcdonalds because it is unhealthy. and, in fact, more people die from eating mcdonalds, than die from smoking marijuana.[QUOTE="nicknees93"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]Ok, fine, what about smoking opium? Almost just as bad as heroin. Just because something grows on the ground doesn't mean it is good for you, have you ever tried smoking poison ivy? That argument that "pot is a plant therefore=good" is illogical and baseless.majoras_wrath
First off
1. Who cares if you can't overdose? It doesn't make it good for you. It merely leads to memory lose and general apathy.
2. Yes you can be addicted. Not all addictions are physical mind you. Psychological addiction is very real
3. You become more peaceful yes, but how is this necessarily a good thing? Sometimes you need to be alert, such as driving.
4. False again, I've heard of plenty of high kids engaging in one-night stands. Some of my friends have even done so, without alchohol
Maybe you should know what marijuana does before you smoke it, as per you said about poison ivy. Not that that matters though, as you'll probably dismiss it as "goverment propaganda man".
Okay, I registered just so I can show this illogical fool up. First off the entire drug war is a total waste of time and money. History has already shown us in the 1920's that Prohibition is not a legitimate course of action. The United States government spends 17 billion dollars per year fighting drugs (Roughly the same cost we spend on the Food Stamp program which feeds poor Americans as well as our entire General Science, Space and Technology budget) It is widely proven that Medical Marijuana has the most health benifits out of any other drug. I find it very funny how so many people buy into a lot of false facts about the plant. Like it causing cancer and killing brain cells. (All false studies) The most beneficial thing out of legalization would be for one boosting our economy and using hemp. Hemp is one of the strongest natural fibers, and it can be used for many different reasons (food clothing etc.) which will in the long run save trees. FIRST OFF, Majoras_wrath has really no idea about Cannabis, He says who cares if you cannot overdose, but that is the main reason of death in drugs. Memory loss is only apparant in individuals who consume Cannibis heavily and are overall unmotivated. You CANNOT become addicted to Marijuana. Yes it is possible to have urges (like with videogames) But not withdrawals or hangovers. There are many functional smokers, 97 million Americans admit to having tried it.It is very funny how majoras_wrath gives a link to a government sponsered anti-drug site that proposes false claims about the plant. Really, before you post on this thread you should actually know your facts before posting. I STRONGLY recommend watching this documentary about the plant, it will change your views and false informations drastically. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=The+union&hl=en&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=The+unio#
Watch it people, have a good one
[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="nicknees93"] here's the basis for why it is a safe plant. 1. you cannot overdose 2. you cannot become addicted 3. you become more peaceful, meaning you will not become violent like some cocaine and alcohol users do 4. you cannot do something sexually you may regret as ectasy and alcohol users sometimes do any person knows not to smoke poison ivy, as you stated in your example, because they know what poison ivy does. and yes, smoking opium, or using the poppies from an opium plant to make heroin is very dangerous. but again, knowing the effects of what your putting into your system can help make a decision on whether to put it in there or not. i choose not to eat mcdonalds because it is unhealthy. and, in fact, more people die from eating mcdonalds, than die from smoking marijuana.Overwatch88
First off
1. Who cares if you can't overdose? It doesn't make it good for you. It merely leads to memory lose and general apathy.
2. Yes you can be addicted. Not all addictions are physical mind you. Psychological addiction is very real
3. You become more peaceful yes, but how is this necessarily a good thing? Sometimes you need to be alert, such as driving.
4. False again, I've heard of plenty of high kids engaging in one-night stands. Some of my friends have even done so, without alchohol
Maybe you should know what marijuana does before you smoke it, as per you said about poison ivy. Not that that matters though, as you'll probably dismiss it as "goverment propaganda man".
Okay, I registered just so I can show this illogical fool up. First off the entire drug war is a total waste of time and money. History has already shown us in the 1920's that Prohibition is not a legitimate course of action. The United States government spends 17 billion dollars per year fighting drugs (Roughly the same cost we spend on the Food Stamp program which feeds poor Americans as well as our entire General Science, Space and Technology budget) It is widely proven that Medical Marijuana has the most health benifits out of any other drug. I find it very funny how so many people buy into a lot of false facts about the plant. Like it causing cancer and killing brain cells. (All false studies) The most beneficial thing out of legalization would be for one boosting our economy and using hemp. Hemp is one of the strongest natural fibers, and it can be used for many different reasons (food clothing etc.) which will in the long run save trees. FIRST OFF, Majoras_wrath has really no idea about Cannabis, He says who cares if you cannot overdose, but that is the main reason of death in drugs. Memory loss is only apparant in individuals who consume Cannibis heavily and are overall unmotivated. You CANNOT become addicted to Marijuana. Yes it is possible to have urges (like with videogames) But not withdrawals or hangovers. There are many functional smokers, 97 million Americans admit to having tried it.It is very funny how majoras_wrath gives a link to a government sponsered anti-drug site that proposes false claims about the plant. Really, before you post on this thread you should actually know your facts before posting. I STRONGLY recommend watching this documentary about the plant, it will change your views and false informations drastically. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=The+union&hl=en&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=The+unio#
Watch it people, have a good one
I'm the biased one? :roll:
I agree, the drug war is a waste of money. I DO believe in decriminalization, but I cannot find any good reason to legalize it.
I hate to rekindle this argument, but it's the most recent topic, and I found this: http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2009/02/legalize_it_ammiano_to_introdu.php.
Basically, an assemblyman in California is proposing total legalization and taxation of the plant in order to help dig the state out of debt. It would still have some pretty strict regulations on it, but would be by and large available to 21-year olds and go for 50$ an ounce. The hope is that with taxation, it will generate a few billion dollars and get the state of debt.
Could someone linkify that for me, please? I'm too lazy to switch browsers.
[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="Overwatch88"]Okay, I registered just so I can show this illogical fool up. First off the entire drug war is a total waste of time and money. History has already shown us in the 1920's that Prohibition is not a legitimate course of action. The United States government spends 17 billion dollars per year fighting drugs (Roughly the same cost we spend on the Food Stamp program which feeds poor Americans as well as our entire General Science, Space and Technology budget) It is widely proven that Medical Marijuana has the most health benifits out of any other drug. I find it very funny how so many people buy into a lot of false facts about the plant. Like it causing cancer and killing brain cells. (All false studies) The most beneficial thing out of legalization would be for one boosting our economy and using hemp. Hemp is one of the strongest natural fibers, and it can be used for many different reasons (food clothing etc.) which will in the long run save trees. FIRST OFF, Majoras_wrath has really no idea about Cannabis, He says who cares if you cannot overdose, but that is the main reason of death in drugs. Memory loss is only apparant in individuals who consume Cannibis heavily and are overall unmotivated. You CANNOT become addicted to Marijuana. Yes it is possible to have urges (like with videogames) But not withdrawals or hangovers. There are many functional smokers, 97 million Americans admit to having tried it.It is very funny how majoras_wrath gives a link to a government sponsered anti-drug site that proposes false claims about the plant. Really, before you post on this thread you should actually know your facts before posting. I STRONGLY recommend watching this documentary about the plant, it will change your views and false informations drastically. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=The+union&hl=en&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=The+unio#
Watch it people, have a good one
Overwatch88
I'm the biased one? :roll:
I agree, the drug war is a waste of money. I DO believe in decriminalization, but I cannot find any good reason to legalize it.
HEMP!!!
Hemp IS legal in many states, you just need a permit.
What you should ask yourself is how long until we stop crowding our jails with people who sell "soft drugs".
Maybe if you give a valid arguement to the government then maybe tommorow, but I doubt anyone could.leonard88We Dutch can, believe me.
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