How you know you really know music

The way I and many other people who take music seriously probably see it, you don't truly know music if you judge an artist by his songs. If you've ever said "Yeah I like them, I have like 4 of their songs on my iPod", you don't really know music. If you see music as entertainment rather than art, you're a tool. And chances are if you listen to the radio and/or MTV, you're a toolx2. Thanks for letting me bash you!

Spellaaaang

The way I sand many other people who take music seriously probably see it, you don't truly know music if you judge an artist by his songs. If you've ever said yeah I like them, I have like 4 of their songs on my iPod", you don't really know music. If you see music as entertainment rather than art, you're a tool. And chances are if you listen to the radio and/or MTV, you're a toolx2. Thanks for letting me bash you!WrongHandLane

I'm not quite sure I get what you're saying, but I think it's this:

Unless you have an artist's entire collection you don't really appreciate them or their music. You're just a sheep and a tool to the music industry.

Correct?

So if I've only heard one song by a band and I like it, I'm just a pawn to MTV who knows nothing of the arts and doesn't appreciate music like you do? Man, I suck.

Q. How you know you really know music? A. By listening to musicCitrus25

If you like to listen to mainstream bullsh-t then you don't really know what real music is

[QUOTE="Citrus25"]Q. How you know you really know music? A. By listening to musicWrongHandLane

If you like to listen to mainstream bullsh-t then you don't really know what real music is

And the way you really know music is if you really enjoy music. If you have an open ear, then you really "know" music.

So the point of this thread is to bash commercial music? Yaaaawn....

It's called albums. An entire album is a piece of work. How can you understand a concept album if you listen to individual songs? I don't own every piece of music by my favorite artists, and even if I did how does it feed corporation? They're signed to Indie labels and some of them produce their own stuff. WrongHandLane

I thought this was going to be an elitist lecture about what bands you can and can't listen to. Instead I was treated to something even more stupid.Nifty_Shark

Thanks for that. :lol:

I always like having a laugh before going to bed. Goodnight. :)

I'm not quite sure I get what you're saying, but I think it's this:

Unless you have an artist's entire collection you don't really appreciate them or their music. You're just a sheep and a tool to the music industry.

Correct?

So if I've only heard one song by a band and I like it, I'm just a pawn to MTV who knows nothing of the arts and doesn't appreciate music like you do? Man, I suck.

KLAX42

[QUOTE="Citrus25"]Q. How you know you really know music? A. By listening to musicWrongHandLane

If you like to listen to mainstream bullsh-t then you don't really know what real music is

I wasn't as clear in my initial post so let me clarify. The quote I made was mocking someone who probably listens to something like Lil Wayne or the All-American Rejects. You might see this rant from a different view because maybe you do listen to major ecord labels. But if you did listen to smaller Independent labels and unsigned bands, you'd see my point better. There is a difference between art and entertainement, and a lot of people don't know the differenceWrongHandLane

Everyone likes bands that they discover with their friends better than mainstream bands. I'm also not into the mainstream stuff (Dream Theater, Metallica, gangsta rap, etc.)

[QUOTE="WrongHandLane"]I wasn't as clear in my initial post so let me clarify. The quote I made was mocking someone who probably listens to something like Lil Wayne or the All-American Rejects. You might see this rant from a different view because maybe you do listen to major ecord labels. But if you did listen to smaller Independent labels and unsigned bands, you'd see my point better. There is a difference between art and entertainement, and a lot of people don't know the differenceHot-Tamale

Everyone likes bands that they discover with their friends better than mainstream bands. I'm also not into the mainstream stuff (Dream Theater, Metallica, gangsta rap, etc.)

[QUOTE="WrongHandLane"]It's called albums. An entire album is a piece of work. How can you understand a concept album if you listen to individual songs? I don't own every piece of music by my favorite artists, and even if I did how does it feed corporation? They're signed to Indie labels and some of them produce their own stuff. t3hrubikscube

Why do you keep bringing up the idea of me calling people posers. There's nothing I said that's praising the idea of belonging. I'm saying that you can like an artist if you appreciate their music, but you don't really know music until you're into the album driven stage. Maybe this is just my pseudo-elitist rant that I can't get out into proper words, but all in all I'm bashing commercialism and people who enjoy feeding it.

[QUOTE="Hot-Tamale"]

[QUOTE="WrongHandLane"]I wasn't as clear in my initial post so let me clarify. The quote I made was mocking someone who probably listens to something like Lil Wayne or the All-American Rejects. You might see this rant from a different view because maybe you do listen to major ecord labels. But if you did listen to smaller Independent labels and unsigned bands, you'd see my point better. There is a difference between art and entertainement, and a lot of people don't know the differencenimatoad2000

Everyone likes bands that they discover with their friends better than mainstream bands. I'm also not into the mainstream stuff (Dream Theater, Metallica, gangsta rap, etc.)

They're going on a worldwide tour and they're on Rock band, not to mention that they're the most popular prog metal band in the world right now by a fairly large margin (Tool and Queensryche are up there too, though).

Also, Metallica is definitely mainstream. Look at their album sales.

Why do you keep bringing up the idea of me calling people posers. There's nothing I said that's praising the idea of belonging. I'm saying that you can like an artist if you appreciate their music, but you don't really know music until you're into the album driven stage. Maybe this is just my pseudo-elitist rant that I can't get out into proper words, but all in all I'm bashing commercialism and people who enjoy feeding it.WrongHandLane

I'm saying that you can like an artist if you appreciate their musicWrongHandLane

Wow, you are so right...

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"][QUOTE="Hot-Tamale"]

Everyone likes bands that they discover with their friends better than mainstream bands. I'm also not into the mainstream stuff (Dream Theater, Metallica, gangsta rap, etc.)

Hot-Tamale

They're going on a worldwide tour and they're on Rock band, not to mention that they're the most popular prog metal band in the world right now by a fairly large margin (Tool and Queensryche are up there too, though).

Also, Metallica is definitely mainstream. Look at their album sales.

Wait wait wait wait.... Metallica? Prog? Did i miss something these past years or has Metallica switched styles or something? You do know what prog rock is, right?

[QUOTE="Hot-Tamale"][QUOTE="nimatoad2000"] thrash metallica isnt mainstream.. and in what way is dream theater in any way mainstream?mexicangordo

They're going on a worldwide tour and they're on Rock band, not to mention that they're the most popular prog metal band in the world right now by a fairly large margin (Tool and Queensryche are up there too, though).

Also, Metallica is definitely mainstream. Look at their album sales.

Wait wait wait wait.... Metallica? Prog? Did i miss something these past years or has Metallica switched styles or something? You do know what prog rock is, right?

No. That first paragraph is about Dream Theater, which hardly classifies as prog anyways...

[QUOTE="Hot-Tamale"][QUOTE="nimatoad2000"] thrash metallica isnt mainstream.. and in what way is dream theater in any way mainstream?mexicangordo

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"][QUOTE="Hot-Tamale"]

They're going on a worldwide tour and they're on Rock band, not to mention that they're the most popular prog metal band in the world right now by a fairly large margin (Tool and Queensryche are up there too, though).

Also, Metallica is definitely mainstream. Look at their album sales.

Hot-Tamale

Wait wait wait wait.... Metallica? Prog? Did i miss something these past years or has Metallica switched styles or something? You do know what prog rock is, right?

No. That first paragraph is about Dream Theater, which hardly classifies as prog anyways...

[QUOTE="WrongHandLane"]I'm saying that you can like an artist if you appreciate their musicCitrus25

Wow, you are so right...

When quoting something in your essay you should never leave out the clause that goes with the conjunction.

So the point of this thread is to bash commercial music? Yaaaawn....

kdsns

yo OP, what kind of music/bands are you in to? (Just curious.)wrlyy

Metallica, Fall Out Boy, Weezy, TI, Young Jeezy [Love his political stuff]

Things like that

[QUOTE="wrlyy"]yo OP, what kind of music/bands are you in to? (Just curious.)WrongHandLane

Metallica, Fall Out Boy, Weezy, TI, Young Jeezy [Love his political stuff]

Things like that

So you like mainstream bands?

[QUOTE="wrlyy"]yo OP, what kind of music/bands are you in to? (Just curious.)WrongHandLane

Metallica, Fall Out Boy, Weezy, TI, Young Jeezy [Love his political stuff]

Things like that

Thanks for posting... the door is that way. ^^^

It's called albums. An entire album is a piece of work. How can you understand a concept album if you listen to individual songs? I don't own every piece of music by my favorite artists, and even if I did how does it feed corporation? They're signed to Indie labels and some of them produce their own stuff. WrongHandLane

[QUOTE="WrongHandLane"]

[QUOTE="wrlyy"]yo OP, what kind of music/bands are you in to? (Just curious.)OrkHammer007

Metallica, Fall Out Boy, Weezy, TI, Young Jeezy [Love his political stuff]

Things like that

Thanks for posting... the door is that way. ^^^

Nearly 4,000 posts on a forum and you still can't tell sarcasm when you read it? I hope you didn't already tell your mother how you 'Pwned that kid on Gamespot!'

[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"][QUOTE="WrongHandLane"]

Metallica, Fall Out Boy, Weezy, TI, Young Jeezy [Love his political stuff]

Things like that

WrongHandLane

Thanks for posting... the door is that way. ^^^

Nearly 4,000 posts on a forum and you still can't tell sarcasm when you read it? I hope you didn't already tell your mother how you 'Pwned that kid on Gamespot!'

so you were kidding?

old metallica isnt mainstream because thrash is not easily digestable by the mass public. nor is it radio friendly music wise or song lenght wise.. dream theater might be popularish but that dosnt make them mainstream, you dont know what mainstream is. mainstream means you turn on the tv, their there, you turn on the radio and their there, you watch saturday night live, their there.. dream theater isnt mainstream in the sence of popularity, track lenght, musical style.. or anything else. just because a band is KNOWN or somewhat popular it dosnt make them mainstream... otherwise the only nonmainstream bands are indie / ones that play local pubs..nimatoad2000

Whenever I turn on the radio I hear Master of Puppets and One on the normal KISS 107FM Rock station. Metallica is a quite mainstream and extemely popular band.

Nearly 4,000 posts on a forum and you still can't tell sarcasm when you read it? I hope you didn't already tell your mother how you 'Pwned that kid on Gamespot!'

WrongHandLane

[QUOTE="WrongHandLane"][QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]What a great way to prove you're "anti-commercial:" by admitting to liking the single BIGGEST sell-outs to commercialism.

Thanks for posting... the door is that way. ^^^

Hot-Tamale

Nearly 4,000 posts on a forum and you still can't tell sarcasm when you read it? I hope you didn't already tell your mother how you 'Pwned that kid on Gamespot!'

so you were kidding?

Nope, I just felt like making some major contradictions to end my night

"Boomer!" Vomits all over WrongHandLane, then a horde of zombies come rushing out of nowhere to beat him up.

Sorry about that, it keeps happening every known and then. I've always wondered, if my favorite band became even more succesful and started getting more air play on Sky or Digital or whatever, does that mean i'm suddenly a tool?

[QUOTE="Hot-Tamale"][QUOTE="WrongHandLane"]

Nearly 4,000 posts on a forum and you still can't tell sarcasm when you read it? I hope you didn't already tell your mother how you 'Pwned that kid on Gamespot!'

WrongHandLane

so you were kidding?

Nope, I just felt like making some major contradictions to end my night

I still don't see your logic. Good night anyway...:|

[QUOTE="WrongHandLane"]Nearly 4,000 posts on a forum and you still can't tell sarcasm when you read it? I hope you didn't already tell your mother how you 'Pwned that kid on Gamespot!'

OrkHammer007

Then again, with only 30 posts, I wouldn't expect you to know that.

Even when the person bashed an entertainer then went on to label him as one of his favorite artists? Get a hint. And this isn't my first forum, as nerdy as it sounds all my posts from all the forums I've been on would be about 3 times your post count.

"Boomer!" Vomits all over WrongHandLane, then a horde of zombies come rushing out of nowhere to beat him up.

Sorry about that, it keeps happening every known and then. I've always wondered, if my favorite band became even more succesful and started getting more air play on Sky or Digital or whatever, does that mean i'm suddenly a tool?

"Boomer!" Vomits all over WrongHandLane, then a horde of zombies come rushing out of nowhere to beat him up.

Sorry about that, it keeps happening every known and then. I've always wondered, if my favorite band became even more succesful and started getting more air play on Sky or Digital or whatever, does that mean i'm suddenly a tool?

Evil_Saluki

About 3 or 4 users already pointed out that there are some mainstream artists that produce respectable music. Maybe you didn't catch that. Or maybe you like to make points that have already been made