Hypothetical situation: God doesnt exist...

Nope, because christianity has done good for the world and there were religions before it. It would just be replaced by another religion anyway.

Espada12

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Nope, because christianity has done good for the world and there were religions before it. It would just be replaced by another religion anyway.

BobMarley1205

History fail.

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Why would you do that?

Man using religion for his own agenda doesn't make religion bad. If religion didn't exist man would use something else to motivate and trick people into going along with his/her evil deeds. For example. Weapons of Mass Destruction.

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[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"] because imo, religion is poison. nimatoad2000

Man using religion for his own agenda doesn't make religion bad. If religion didn't exist man would use something else to motivate and trick people into going along with his/her evil deeds. For example. Weapons of Mass Destruction.

The world's been doing fine for the past few thousand years in terms of progression. What needs to go to allow room for progress is the "anybody who believes differently than me must be brainwashed" mentality -- and that's religion-neutral.

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Why would you do that?

Espada12

Man using religion for his own agenda doesn't make religion bad. If religion didn't exist man would use something else to motivate and trick people into going along with his/her evil deeds. For example. Weapons of Mass Destruction.

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Nope, because christianity has done good for the world and there were religions before it. It would just be replaced by another religion anyway.

BobMarley1205

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[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"] because imo, religion is poison. nimatoad2000

Man using religion for his own agenda doesn't make religion bad. If religion didn't exist man would use something else to motivate and trick people into going along with his/her evil deeds. For example. Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Huh? I am saying another method WILL BE USED and I used WMDS as my example. Judging from your first two lines you clearly didn't understand my post at all, and that afghan law is based from religion? Do you know that? Or just evil men doing evil deeds?

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Man using religion for his own agenda doesn't make religion bad. If religion didn't exist man would use something else to motivate and trick people into going along with his/her evil deeds. For example. Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Huh? I am saying another method WILL BE USED. Judging from your first two lines you clearly didn't understand my post at all, and that afghan law is based from religion? Do you know that? Or just evil men doing evil deeds?

I wouldn't kill a twelve year old kid

Mercenary848

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I wouldn't kill a twelve year old kid

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[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"] so your saying allow religion to brainwash and fool people so that another worse method wont be used? look at what you just said. anyways what are you talking about WMD's... how old are you? religion needs to go for the world to progress, look at the middle east, religious leaders rule, and look how F'd up it is, afghanistan jst passed laws saying if your wife dosnt have sex with you, you can starve her until she does, and if she dies, thats ok, also passed is that if you rape a woman ( and go to jail) you can offer to marry her, and get out of jail ( the woman has no say here) . so you can pick a pretty girl, rape her, force her to marry you, and rape her for the rest of her life, if she refuses sex, starve her, if she dies, get another girl using the same method. tell me that isnt F'd up. keep thinking the way you want to , but at least think about it first.nimatoad2000

Huh? I am saying another method WILL BE USED. Judging from your first two lines you clearly didn't understand my post at all, and that afghan law is based from religion? Do you know that? Or just evil men doing evil deeds?

People think Scientology is stupid because it's been responsible for the greatest attack on government security in American history and is an obvious money-making scam according to its own creator. Not because it's new.

they pass these kinds of laws and then say " if you stay faithful to your husband, allah will reward you in your afterlife" im saying people use religion to manipulate just like anything else, but i disagree with your point that religion is ok because without it something else would come along. we can get rid of religion, and then get rid of whatever replaces it, but i doubt in this day and age itll be too easy to fool a mass amount of people with some new idea. scientology dosnt have mass amount of followers because its new, and ppl think its stupid, the reson christianity is still strong is because its been around for soo long and people are born being taught it, its hard to disregard something your parents taught you and soo many people believe in.nimatoad2000

But was this the case with your example? I do not believe so. I am not saying religion is ok because something else will come along, I'm saying religion is ok because MAN is the one who uses it to manipulate people. Does religion tell you to strap bombs to yourself and run into a crowd of civilians? No.. but people use religion as a basis to get others to. Bush got america to back him with the afghan and iraq wars by using WMDS and a national tragedy, he used both those things to get public support for wars. Understand what I'm saying, the anything else that comes after religion to get rid of.. will be people. No matter what you do, people will find ways of getting others to obey them.

religion needs to go for the world to progressnimatoad2000

"Amen"? All he's done is find verbose ways of insulting a person that's said or done nothing to deserve it. That's all he's done in this thread. Mindstorm never said homosexuals deserve to die (now or ever as far as I've seen) and all AD has done is reflect his own insipid bigotry at him because he's religious. Now he complains that there's some big bad bias with the mods (some of whom are nontheistic themselves) because he can't seem to realise that calling people "drones" and "bigots" and "deluded" based on belief systems they hold dear is INSULTING and UNWARRANTED.

Amen? No.

Finally, just try to say "Person of X belief or preference or orientation should die" and see what happens out of "respect" for people's religious beliefs. Go ahead.

Theokhoth

He quite clearly said homosexuals deserved to die for committing gay acts and lusting for other men, in fact he quite clearly said anyone who doesn't live up to the standards of his particular brand of belief system deserves to die.

Those are not views shared by all Christan's, this person chose to believe in this specific way, attitudes like that deserve ridicule and by defending them you are enabling such attitudes to continue.

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"]religion needs to go for the world to progressfoxhound_fox

Nope, I'd go back with all the kick ass technology and become the messiah myself, then go forward in time and then Boom! Second coming. 8)