I am sorry but I will just have to say my opinion on the psychology of drug use

I think they are for bettering the weaknesses you haven't bothered dealing with. Drinking a couple of beers in the club or at a party to lower your self-consciousness or fear of embarassment is like admitting you aren't strong or psychologically well developed enough to do it themselves. People who need caffeine in the morning rely on the coffe to get them awake, people who need to get some drugs like mariyuana to relax or calm down are saying they can't do it themselves.

But I am not saying this is bad, I mean medicines are drugs and if we didn't take them a lot would die. But it is still an admission of weakness whether you like it or not. Also it sometimes says that you can't be bothered to work on your own flaws but would rather, say get a bit drunk, to become more sociable instead of trying to work out why you are socially awkward.

You wanna know why I think people do drugs? because it

True, instead of saying "why am I drinking this delicious cold beer? What am I hiding?" I just drink it. And it goes down smooooth.

Thanks. ;)

I have my first coffee after I have been up for a couple of hrs, and I like to have a beer with dinner.

According to your generalisations, this is just an example of my weakness not how I like to have some beverages

That isn't even the aspect of drug use I was talking about...

I have my first coffee after I have been up for a couple of hrs, and I like to have a beer with dinner.

According to your generalisations, this is just an example of my weakness not how I like to have some beverages

Bedizen

I say it when you use drugs for a spesific purpose or in a specific setting in which the drug would be beneficial.

[QUOTE="Bedizen"]

I have my first coffee after I have been up for a couple of hrs, and I like to have a beer with dinner.

According to your generalisations, this is just an example of my weakness not how I like to have some beverages

lyeti

I say it when you use drugs for a spesific purpose or in a specific setting in which the drug would be beneficial.

For me it is beneficial as I enjoy both beverages.

Ok I will stop twisting your words around to make a pointless point :P

I think they are for bettering the weaknesses you haven't bothered dealing with. Drinking a couple of beers in the club or at a party to lower your self-consciousness or fear of embarassment is like admitting you aren't strong or psychologically well developed enough to do it themselves. People who need caffeine in the morning rely on the coffe to get them awake, people who need to get some drugs like mariyuana to relax or calm down are saying they can't do it themselves.

But I am not saying this is bad, I mean medicines are drugs and if we didn't take them a lot would die. But it is still an admission of weakness whether you like it or not. Also it sometimes says that you can't be bothered to work on your own flaws but would rather, say get a bit drunk, to become more sociable instead of trying to work out why you are socially awkward.

lyeti

You're on Gamespot, so I'm assuming that you at least sort of like videogames.

And since most videogames involve some kind of violence, I'm also assuming that you've liked many videogames that allow you to kill or murder people/animals.

So...is it fair to say that people only play videogames in order to feel like badasses, as a way of making them feel less weak?

And I'm not saying that this is bad either. But let's be fair. If "using drugs" shows weakness, then how could one NOT say the same about the vast majority of videogames ever released?

Even when we branch off from the murder games, the same thing still applies. Most people playing flight sims are too poor/stupid/chicken**** to actually learn how to fly a real plane. Same thing with racecars. And the same thing with sports games. The VAST majority of people playing NFL or NBA games are going to be grossly unqualified to have anything to do with the NBA or NFL.

I use drugs such as caffeine and for medicinal purposes. I am not attacking anyone, I am saying that drugs are used to fix weaknesses.

I can see where your coming from TC, I really do. but I disagree with you saying that your statement apply's to everyone who uses any sort of drug.

Why can't I drink a beer because it tastes good?

why is it so bad, to have a cup o' joe (coffee) in the morning while I read the paper?

see, there's other reasons to partake of alcohol/caffeine/thc aside from "I just can't deal with X,Y, or Z attributes of myself without them?

I really don't think you mean to point a finger at everyone who go out to the bar and have a drink, because it's just plain enjoyable, but it'sdefinetly coming off that way.

I use drugs such as caffeine and for medicinal purposes. I am not attacking anyone, I am saying that drugs are used to fix weaknesses.

lyeti

And I'm saying that that's a crock of ****.

Generally speaking, drug users do not START as addicts. They start out as people who just like the effect which is given by the drug. In VERY many cases, this amounts to nothing more than "fun".

And as I was asking, since when has "doing things that are fun" been recognized as "a sign of weakness"?

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I think they are for bettering the weaknesses you haven't bothered dealing with. Drinking a couple of beers in the club or at a party to lower your self-consciousness or fear of embarassment is like admitting you aren't strong or psychologically well developed enough to do it themselves. People who need caffeine in the morning rely on the coffe to get them awake, people who need to get some drugs like mariyuana to relax or calm down are saying they can't do it themselves.

But I am not saying this is bad, I mean medicines are drugs and if we didn't take them a lot would die. But it is still an admission of weakness whether you like it or not. Also it sometimes says that you can't be bothered to work on your own flaws but would rather, say get a bit drunk, to become more sociable instead of trying to work out why you are socially awkward.

lyeti

You wanna know why I think people do drugs? because it

JonnyEagle

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being sober is easy. being ****ed up and partying for 13 hours and still being able to stand and hold a conversation and have a good time? takes more willpower than you can imagine let me reiterate: being sober is easy. I wouldn't say "weak" because I'm not judgmental, and because I'm well aware that sobriety has its uses and times. But don't presume to understand what you haven't experienced.Jandurin

A person that doesn't drink does this because it's convienant for them and makes life easier.

A person that drinks occassionaly does this because it's convienant for them and makes life easier.

A person that drinks all the time does this because it's convienant for them and makes life easier.

now whether or not this concept of easier is rational.. is entirely relative to the specific individual and why they're drinking or not drinking in the first place.

I think people do drugs for a number of reasons:

- They aren't happy with their current state of life

-Preer Pressure

-Emotional Issues

There are more i'm sure..i just can't think of them :x..

Some people do drugs because THEY'RE FUN.

[QUOTE="Bedizen"]

I have my first coffee after I have been up for a couple of hrs, and I like to have a beer with dinner.

According to your generalisations, this is just an example of my weakness not how I like to have some beverages

lyeti

I say it when you use drugs for a spesific purpose or in a specific setting in which the drug would be beneficial.

I think people do drugs for a number of reasons:

- They aren't happy with their current state of life

-Preer Pressure

-Emotional Issues

There are more i'm sure..i just can't think of them :x..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

-they like them

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]being sober is easy. being ****ed up and partying for 13 hours and still being able to stand and hold a conversation and have a good time? takes more willpower than you can imagine let me reiterate: being sober is easy. I wouldn't say "weak" because I'm not judgmental, and because I'm well aware that sobriety has its uses and times. But don't presume to understand what you haven't experienced.EMOEVOLUTION

A person that doesn't drink does this because it's convienant for them and makes life easier.

A person that drinks occassionaly does this because it's convienant for them and makes life easier.

A person that drinks all the time does this because it's convienant for them and makes life easier.

now whether or not this concept of easier is rational.. is entirely relative to the specific individual and why they're drinking or not drinking in the first place.

Maybe they just like being able to fully experience all the colours and senses of the world around them?

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

I think people do drugs for a number of reasons:

- They aren't happy with their current state of life

-Preer Pressure

-Emotional Issues

There are more i'm sure..i just can't think of them :x..

needled24-7

-they like them

Maybe they just like being able to fully experience all the colours and senses of the world around them?

StripTheSoul

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

I think people do drugs for a number of reasons:

- They aren't happy with their current state of life

-Preer Pressure

-Emotional Issues

There are more i'm sure..i just can't think of them :x..

Famiking

-they like them

what do you mean if they're doing dangerous things just because they like them? you mean like driving drunk? people don't drive drunk because they like to get drunk, i assume they do it because they want to go home, but they're drunk. but driving drunk is stupid.

needled24-7

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]being sober is easy. being ****ed up and partying for 13 hours and still being able to stand and hold a conversation and have a good time? takes more willpower than you can imagine let me reiterate: being sober is easy. I wouldn't say "weak" because I'm not judgmental, and because I'm well aware that sobriety has its uses and times. But don't presume to understand what you haven't experienced.needled24-7

A person that doesn't drink does this because it's convienant for them and makes life easier.

A person that drinks occassionaly does this because it's convienant for them and makes life easier.

A person that drinks all the time does this because it's convienant for them and makes life easier.

now whether or not this concept of easier is rational.. is entirely relative to the specific individual and why they're drinking or not drinking in the first place.

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"] IF being sober is so easy.. then you'd have no problem never drinking again.. but since you won't do that.. that's obviously not the case. try again please. We can break this down as follows.

A person that doesn't drink does this because it's convienant for them and makes life easier.

A person that drinks occassionaly does this because it's convienant for them and makes life easier.

A person that drinks all the time does this because it's convienant for them and makes life easier.

now whether or not this concept of easier is rational.. is entirely relative to the specific individual and why they're drinking or not drinking in the first place.

EMOEVOLUTION

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="needled24-7"]it'd also be easier to just never leave your house, but you're not going to do that.

needled24-7

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="needled24-7"]it'd also be easier to just never leave your house, but you're not going to do that.

needled24-7

But doing what's easy certainly isn't an act of strength.EMOEVOLUTION

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]But doing what's easy certainly isn't an act of strength.JN_Fenrir

Drug users escaping reality?

Get out of town! :P

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"] you obviously don't get what I'm talking about... your statement has no relevance to what I'm saying.EMOEVOLUTION

Its pretty obvious that most (if not all) of the harder addicts use drugs to get away from their problems but beer isn't nearly as bad as narcotics...

And yes, I know what my username is...hardy har har... >_>

You wanna know why I think people do drugs? because it

JonnyEagle

pretty much

whether its alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, cocaine...the simple truth is that people start and do drugs for the promise of good feelings

and, in most cases, drugs deliver. So long as one does them in moderation and/or to little bodily and mental harm, there really is no reason not to. Unless, you know, you just dont feel like it.

And, as much as it pains me to quote Weezer, we are all on drugs. The feeling of exhaustion that comes after eating turkey on Thanksgiving, the high that arrives after working out, the pleasant buzz of alcohol that turns introverts into social butterflies, or the mellowing effects of THC on your body...its all through the ingestion of chemicals.

My philosophy is that if a lot of people do it (not due to pure pressure, but as evidence of its safety) and its natural, then its problably ok to do it.

And your belief that drug use is a sign of weakness is just plain silly. If anything, not doing drugs can also be seen as a sign of weakness because your too scared to indulge in something your mommy and daddy or church falsely claims in harmful. But I dont think that...that'd be as stupid as thinking people that take drugs are weak.