I am sorry but I will just have to say my opinion on the psychology of drug use

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]But doing what's easy certainly isn't an act of strength.JN_Fenrir

its called efficiency. There is no shame in getting the most return out of something for the smallest effort.

the real tests come in times of controversy; if youre pushed to the limit, need to meet a short deadline...those are signs of strength. Many people do turn to drugs to either escape from these pressures, or help them cope.

but giving 110%, or even 100%, all the time is just silly.

You wanna know why I think people do drugs? because it

JonnyEagle

yeah 8)

This must mean I am a really strong person. I quit all drugs! Including caffeine.

nice off-topic thread. cant say i totally agree with the TC, but still good topic. I've thought of this myself at times. I can admit that I need the help of a few beers at a party to "loosen-up." but going to a party and staying sober or parties with ALL SOBER people are BORING in comparison. I cant say about drug use, because I havent done drugs, but with alcohol and caffeine, I agree. but hey I feel being happy is the most important thing to me (selfish yes) I would rather be happy than not drink caffeine or alcohol.

This must mean I am a really strong person. I quit all drugs! Including caffeine.

Assassin1349

[QUOTE="Assassin1349"]

This must mean I am a really strong person. I quit all drugs! Including caffeine.

Famiking

Tea's good for you though. And you can get it without caffeine.

Assassin1349

I think people do drugs for a number of reasons:

- They aren't happy with their current state of life

-Preer Pressure

-Emotional Issues

There are more i'm sure..i just can't think of them :x..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

Lol. I am very happy with my life. I have no peer pressure because I do it by myself. I also have no emotional issues at all. I just like to smoke weed every now and then

[QUOTE="Assassin1349"]Tea's good for you though. And you can get it without caffeine.

I agree. Screw drugs and medications, let's just man-out our weaknesess! :x ghoklebutter

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]I agree. Screw drugs and medications, let's just man-out our weaknesess! :x Famiking

[QUOTE="Famiking"]

[QUOTE="Assassin1349"]Tea's good for you though. And you can get it without caffeine.

ghoklebutter

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

I think people do drugs for a number of reasons:

- They aren't happy with their current state of life

-Preer Pressure

-Emotional Issues

There are more i'm sure..i just can't think of them :x..

hodges_3_5

Lol. I am very happy with my life. I have no peer pressure because I do it by myself. I also have no emotional issues at all. I just like to smoke weed every now and then

I was more referring to addicts...i have no idea why you would want to do that though..:?

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="Famiking"] Is Lipton yellow label tea healthy? I always considered unhealthy because I put plenty of sugar in (2 lumps) and there's much more healthier teas out there, and they can induce relaxing moods much like drugs can even though they aren't drugs themselves.

Famiking

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="Famiking"] Is Lipton yellow label tea healthy? I always considered unhealthy because I put plenty of sugar in (2 lumps) and there's much more healthier teas out there, and they can induce relaxing moods much like drugs can even though they aren't drugs themselves.

Famiking

[QUOTE="hodges_3_5"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

I think people do drugs for a number of reasons:

- They aren't happy with their current state of life

-Preer Pressure

-Emotional Issues

There are more i'm sure..i just can't think of them :x..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

Lol. I am very happy with my life. I have no peer pressure because I do it by myself. I also have no emotional issues at all. I just like to smoke weed every now and then

I was more referring to addicts...i have no idea why you would want to do that though..:?

What if I socially drink with friends once a month? Am I showing weakness?

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="hodges_3_5"]

Lol. I am very happy with my life. I have no peer pressure because I do it by myself. I also have no emotional issues at all. I just like to smoke weed every now and then

pis3rch

I was more referring to addicts...i have no idea why you would want to do that though..:?

What if I socially drink with friends once a month? Am I showing weakness?

enjoy07

I drink and smoke because I want to keep the tobacco and alcoholic beverages companies in business

Wouldn't want their employees lost their jobs

[QUOTE="pis3rch"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

I was more referring to addicts...i have no idea why you would want to do that though..:?

EMOEVOLUTION

Of course drugs are a sign of weakness. They assist the body in doing things it is having trouble doing on its own. We use aspirin to reduce the effects of vasoconstriction (headaches). We use vaccines, anti-inflammatory drugs, antibiotics, antivirals and antifungals to help our bodies fight infections they can't fight on their own. We use diuretics to force fluids from our system that aren't being filtered out quickly enough. Psychoactive drugs are no different. They assist the brain in creating chemical reactions and responses (i.e. moods and feelings) it is having trouble creating on its own. And yes, using drugs for fun falls under that category. It is a sign of weakness; not necessarily of weakness in character, but of being weakened by a tough or depressing situation (such as boredom). And so people take drugs to help them get through it. The question is, what's so terrible about having weaknesses? We're humans. We are a mortal species on this planet, prone to all kinds of ailments. Of course we have weaknesses. Why is it so hard for people to admit that?JN_Fenrir

Yeah thats what I was thinking about. I wanted to share my opinions and see different views people have on this. But mostly it was just people saying how they do it because they like it. Which is not always true as it is said by delusional people too. I was just sharing my opinion on that aspect of drug use. THere was no need for people to go so defensive. If you think you use drugs safely and just because you like the feeling I really don't give a sh**. If you use them dangerously and are just being delusional I don't give a sh** either. That WAS NOT the purpose of this thread, it was more of a philosophical debate about subconscious effects and wants of drugs and also conscious psychology of drug use.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="hodges_3_5"]

Lol. I am very happy with my life. I have no peer pressure because I do it by myself. I also have no emotional issues at all. I just like to smoke weed every now and then

pis3rch

I was more referring to addicts...i have no idea why you would want to do that though..:?

So you need...a drug to feel amazing..:o?..You can't just...feel amazing about life..?

That's not necessarily the reason all the time, maybe sometimes. I've experimented with psychedelics a few times after researching its effects and they happened to be the most significant spiritual experiences of my life. You really can't understand life and reality until you go through a drug trip, I think at least. Not saying it's necessary or trying to inspire anyone to do it, but it has been a worthwhile experience for me. for alcohol, it's simply a tool to help you have fun. What's more fun than being around a few friends drunk, talking to girls, and forgetting about life's worries for a night?

I think they are for bettering the weaknesses you haven't bothered dealing with. Drinking a couple of beers in the club or at a party to lower your self-consciousness or fear of embarassment is like admitting you aren't strong or psychologically well developed enough to do it themselves. People who need caffeine in the morning rely on the coffe to get them awake, people who need to get some drugs like mariyuana to relax or calm down are saying they can't do it themselves.

But I am not saying this is bad, I mean medicines are drugs and if we didn't take them a lot would die. But it is still an admission of weakness whether you like it or not. Also it sometimes says that you can't be bothered to work on your own flaws but would rather, say get a bit drunk, to become more sociable instead of trying to work out why you are socially awkward.

lyeti

[QUOTE="pis3rch"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

I was more referring to addicts...i have no idea why you would want to do that though..:?

Xx_Hopeless_xX

So you need...a drug to feel amazing..:o?..You can't just...feel amazing about life..?

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="pis3rch"] You really have no idea why somebody would smoke weed? How about because it feels amazing.... And about tea, I strongly recommend green tea with spearmint and a wee bit o' honey. I use "Twinings" brand tea leaves, home-grown mint, and honey that is either store-bought or some delicious stuff that my friend gets from his own beehives. Makes for a perfect morning but it's great at virtually any time of day.

pis3rch

So you need...a drug to feel amazing..:o?..You can't just...feel amazing about life..?

With it comes the risk of addiction...is it really worth it..:|?

[QUOTE="pis3rch"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

So you need...a drug to feel amazing..:o?..You can't just...feel amazing about life..?

Xx_Hopeless_xX

With it comes the risk of addiction...is it really worth it..:|?

I am happier with my achievements and when I make myself into a better person. He gets more enjoyment out of getting high. I respect our differences. I mean I play videogames; beating a videogame is an achievement and thats what I go for more than getting high. Even if it is basically as useless for a way to spend your free time...

[QUOTE="pis3rch"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

So you need...a drug to feel amazing..:o?..You can't just...feel amazing about life..?

Xx_Hopeless_xX

With it comes the risk of addiction...is it really worth it..:|?

[QUOTE="pis3rch"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

So you need...a drug to feel amazing..:o?..You can't just...feel amazing about life..?

Xx_Hopeless_xX

With it comes the risk of addiction...is it really worth it..:|?

That's not necessarily the reason all the time, maybe sometimes. I've experimented with psychedelics a few times after researching its effects and they happened to be the most significant spiritual experiences of my life. You really can't understand life and reality until you go through a drug trip, I think at least. Not saying it's necessary or trying to inspire anyone to do it, but it has been a worthwhile experience for me. for alcohol, it's simply a tool to help you have fun. What's more fun than being around a few friends drunk, talking to girls, and forgetting about life's worries for a night?

R0cky_Racc00n

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="pis3rch"] Ugh..."feel amazing" doesn't mean that drugs make you some super-optimist with a smile plastered to their face. A high is physical sensation, a "feeling" that you WILL NOT EXPERIENCE without the use of a drug. It's sort of like an orgasm, only it comes in different...flavors. Getting high on any drug is WAY more than just a mood lift, but if you've never experienced it you just won't understand. lyeti

With it comes the risk of addiction...is it really worth it..:|?

I am happier with my achievements and when I make myself into a better person. He gets more enjoyment out of getting high. I respect our differences. I mean I play videogames; beating a videogame is an achievement and thats what I go for more than getting high. Even if it is basically as useless for a way to spend your free time...

we do "stuff" because its fun and makes us feel real good.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="pis3rch"] Ugh..."feel amazing" doesn't mean that drugs make you some super-optimist with a smile plastered to their face. A high is physical sensation, a "feeling" that you WILL NOT EXPERIENCE without the use of a drug. It's sort of like an orgasm, only it comes in different...flavors. Getting high on any drug is WAY more than just a mood lift, but if you've never experienced it you just won't understand. Stanley09

With it comes the risk of addiction...is it really worth it..:|?

I was referring to drugs in general..

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="pis3rch"] Ugh..."feel amazing" doesn't mean that drugs make you some super-optimist with a smile plastered to their face. A high is physical sensation, a "feeling" that you WILL NOT EXPERIENCE without the use of a drug. It's sort of like an orgasm, only it comes in different...flavors. Getting high on any drug is WAY more than just a mood lift, but if you've never experienced it you just won't understand. pis3rch

With it comes the risk of addiction...is it really worth it..:|?

Well, whatever works for you then...personally i think i'd rather stay away from them..:x

Well, you only live once so you might as well enjoy it. I mean, whats the point of life if your not enjoying it? Stanley09

So if I'm not doing drugs, I'm not enjoying life? I beg to differ..

Well, whatever works for you then...personally i think i'd rather stay away from them..:x

Xx_Hopeless_xX

That's all we ask, just leave us be :)

[QUOTE="Stanley09"]Well, you only live once so you might as well enjoy it. I mean, whats the point of life if your not enjoying it? Silverbond

So if I'm not doing drugs, I'm not enjoying life? I beg to differ..

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

Well, whatever works for you then...personally i think i'd rather stay away from them..:x

pis3rch

That's all we ask, just leave us be :)

As long as it doesn't affect me or anything i will..:x..

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

Well, whatever works for you then...personally i think i'd rather stay away from them..:x

pis3rch

That's all we ask, just leave us be :)

i agree with pis3rch

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Stanley09"]Well, you only live once so you might as well enjoy it. I mean, whats the point of life if your not enjoying it? Stanley09

So if I'm not doing drugs, I'm not enjoying life? I beg to differ..

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="pis3rch"] Ugh..."feel amazing" doesn't mean that drugs make you some super-optimist with a smile plastered to their face. A high is physical sensation, a "feeling" that you WILL NOT EXPERIENCE without the use of a drug. It's sort of like an orgasm, only it comes in different...flavors. Getting high on any drug is WAY more than just a mood lift, but if you've never experienced it you just won't understand. Stanley09

With it comes the risk of addiction...is it really worth it..:|?

[QUOTE="pis3rch"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

So you need...a drug to feel amazing..:o?..You can't just...feel amazing about life..?

Xx_Hopeless_xX

With it comes the risk of addiction...is it really worth it..:|?

I don't want to, and I don't see how I'm not "enjoying life" by not doing drugs.

Silverbond

When someone says that, it doesn't literally mean that without drugs life is some bleak, miserable existence. It just means that you only get one life, and there are substances available that allow you to feel certain sensations that you would otherwise never experience, so one may feel inclined to take advantages of those substances to feel those different highs. We're both enjoyling life just fine, the difference is that sometimes I like to look at things through a different lens, so to speak. Not beacuse I am trying to escape, but because it's something different, something fun.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="pis3rch"] Ugh..."feel amazing" doesn't mean that drugs make you some super-optimist with a smile plastered to their face. A high is physical sensation, a "feeling" that you WILL NOT EXPERIENCE without the use of a drug. It's sort of like an orgasm, only it comes in different...flavors. Getting high on any drug is WAY more than just a mood lift, but if you've never experienced it you just won't understand. JN_Fenrir

With it comes the risk of addiction...is it really worth it..:|?

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

I don't want to, and I don't see how I'm not "enjoying life" by not doing drugs.

pis3rch

When someone says that, it doesn't literally mean that without drugs life is some bleak, miserable existence. It just means that you only get one life, and there are substances available that allow you to feel certain sensations that you would otherwise never experience, so one may feel inclined to take advantages of those substances to feel those different highs. We're both enjoyling life just fine, the difference is that sometimes I like to look at things through a different lens, so to speak. Not beacuse I am trying to escape, but because it's something different, something fun.

People who need caffeine in the morning rely on the coffee to get them awake, people who need to get some drugs like mariyuana to relax or calm down are saying they can't do it themseves. lyeti