I don't understand this about conservatives and gay marriage

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#101  Edited By vfibsux
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@MakeMeaSammitch said:

Social conservatives claim that gay marriage will undermine the structure of marriage, while at the same time have a higher rate of divorce than liberals.

Isn't getting divorced undermining marriage?

So you are saying if people married their dog it would be okay as long as they had a lower divorce rate than republicans?

And look at the tools above me attacking people for being social conservatives even though they are simply giving a tactful personal opinion. You angry liberals are such douchebags, I swear. I would love for you to call me a dumbass to my face so I could plant yours into the dirt. Spineless tools.

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#102 deeliman
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@vfibsux said:

@MakeMeaSammitch said:

Social conservatives claim that gay marriage will undermine the structure of marriage, while at the same time have a higher rate of divorce than liberals.

Isn't getting divorced undermining marriage?

So you are saying if people married their dog it would be okay as long as they had a lower divorce rate than republicans?

And look at the tools above me attacking people for being social conservatives even though they are simply giving a tactful personal opinion. You angry liberals are such douchebags, I swear. I would love for you to call me a dumbass to my face so I could plant yours into the dirt. Spineless tools.

You should probably stop before you make an even bigger ass out of yourself.

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#103  Edited By vl4d_l3nin
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@vfibsux said:

@MakeMeaSammitch said:

Social conservatives claim that gay marriage will undermine the structure of marriage, while at the same time have a higher rate of divorce than liberals.

Isn't getting divorced undermining marriage?

So you are saying if people married their dog it would be okay as long as they had a lower divorce rate than republicans?

And look at the tools above me attacking people for being social conservatives even though they are simply giving a tactful personal opinion. You angry liberals are such douchebags, I swear. I would love for you to call me a dumbass to my face so I could plant yours into the dirt. Spineless tools.

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#104 Serraph105
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@vfibsux said:

@MakeMeaSammitch said:

Social conservatives claim that gay marriage will undermine the structure of marriage, while at the same time have a higher rate of divorce than liberals.

Isn't getting divorced undermining marriage?

So you are saying if people married their dog it would be okay as long as they had a lower divorce rate than republicans?

And look at the tools above me attacking people for being social conservatives even though they are simply giving a tactful personal opinion. You angry liberals are such douchebags, I swear. I would love for you to call me a dumbass to my face so I could plant yours into the dirt. Spineless tools.

You most likely live too far away from me to make calling you a dumbass to your face practical, so unfortunately the internet is all I've got.

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#105  Edited By HoolaHoopMan
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@vfibsux said:

So you are saying if people married their dog it would be okay as long as they had a lower divorce rate than republicans?

And look at the tools above me attacking people for being social conservatives even though they are simply giving a tactful personal opinion. You angry liberals are such douchebags, I swear. I would love for you to call me a dumbass to my face so I could plant yours into the dirt. Spineless tools.

Internet bad ass here.

You can always pick out extra chromosome carrying people like yourself when they bring up the dog or animal analogy to gay marriage. They can't seem to grasp the concept of consent.

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#106 Makhaidos
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@vfibsux said:

@MakeMeaSammitch said:

Social conservatives claim that gay marriage will undermine the structure of marriage, while at the same time have a higher rate of divorce than liberals.

Isn't getting divorced undermining marriage?

So you are saying if people married their dog it would be okay as long as they had a lower divorce rate than republicans?

And look at the tools above me attacking people for being social conservatives even though they are simply giving a tactful personal opinion. You angry liberals are such douchebags, I swear. I would love for you to call me a dumbass to my face so I could plant yours into the dirt. Spineless tools.

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#107  Edited By plageus900
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@vfibsux said:

@MakeMeaSammitch said:

Social conservatives claim that gay marriage will undermine the structure of marriage, while at the same time have a higher rate of divorce than liberals.

Isn't getting divorced undermining marriage?

So you are saying if people married their dog it would be okay as long as they had a lower divorce rate than republicans?

And look at the tools above me attacking people for being social conservatives even though they are simply giving a tactful personal opinion. You angry liberals are such douchebags, I swear. I would love for you to call me a dumbass to my face so I could plant yours into the dirt. Spineless tools.

I don't know how I could possibly say it to your face, so here goes...

You're a dumbass.

Stay Alpha, bro.

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#108 SolidSnake35
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Don't make it legal. I don't want that kind of temptation.

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#109 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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@vfibsux said:

@MakeMeaSammitch said:

Social conservatives claim that gay marriage will undermine the structure of marriage, while at the same time have a higher rate of divorce than liberals.

Isn't getting divorced undermining marriage?

So you are saying if people married their dog it would be okay as long as they had a lower divorce rate than republicans?

And look at the tools above me attacking people for being social conservatives even though they are simply giving a tactful personal opinion. You angry liberals are such douchebags, I swear. I would love for you to call me a dumbass to my face so I could plant yours into the dirt. Spineless tools.

LOL What a little whiny bitch

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#110 Jacobistheman
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There is a fairly simple explanation for this. The average conservative is older than the average liberal. Older people have a higher divorce rate (they have had longer to get divorced). Find a study that shows that a liberal is more likely to stay married in the same circumstances (Age, years of marriage, etc) and I think you might have a more valid argument.

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#111 crediblehulk89
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I did a little research into the topic and found that those studies used divorces per 1000 people aged 15 or older, not divorces per 1000 marriages. Not all states have the same amount of people getting married.

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#112  Edited By crediblehulk89
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Also, I feel for all that have been persecuted for their beliefs. People that do not support same sex marriage are the newest members of that group.

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#113  Edited By chernoalpha527
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Mostly because of religion and a good dose of ignorance.

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@crediblehulk89 said:

Also, I feel for all that have been persecuted for their beliefs. People that do not support same sex marriage are the newest members of that group.

Yet they're still allowed to marry while gays can't. So how are they being persecuted?

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#115  Edited By deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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@crediblehulk89 said:

Also, I feel for all that have been persecuted for their beliefs. People that do not support same sex marriage are the newest members of that group.

LMAO dat persecution complex. excuse me while i shed a tear for hateful people

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#116 MysteryJ0ker
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The irony of political labels attacking each other for the other being stupid? They're all idiots. Liberals, liberatians, conversatives, the whole lot of you are. Your entire political agenda isn't to be productive and efficient, it's just to shit on the other parties as hard as possible. Why people allow such nonsense to continue and not push forward a bill to force sterilize each member of a political label is baffling at best.

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#117 MakeMeaSammitch
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@MysteryJ0ker: what if they're correct in labeling them?

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#118  Edited By GreySeal9
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@vfibsux said:

@MakeMeaSammitch said:

Social conservatives claim that gay marriage will undermine the structure of marriage, while at the same time have a higher rate of divorce than liberals.

Isn't getting divorced undermining marriage?

So you are saying if people married their dog it would be okay as long as they had a lower divorce rate than republicans?

And look at the tools above me attacking people for being social conservatives even though they are simply giving a tactful personal opinion. You angry liberals are such douchebags, I swear. I would love for you to call me a dumbass to my face so I could plant yours into the dirt. Spineless tools.

Cry moar.

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#119  Edited By Makhaidos
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@crediblehulk89 said:

Also, I feel for all that have been persecuted for their beliefs. People that do not support same sex marriage are the newest members of that group.

You're being relegated to the same group as the people who thought blacks and whites should go to different schools, and you deserve it.

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#120 crediblehulk89
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@Makhaidos:

Except that's a ridiculous comment to make. I do not want to segregate LGBT people from anything. Practically no one that is reasonable wants that. I don't hate those people. I just hold an opinion about marriage and I posted that opinion without attacking anyone and look at what happens.

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#121  Edited By deeliman
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@Makhaidos:

Except that's a ridiculous comment to make. I do not want to segregate LGBT people from anything. Practically no one that is reasonable wants that. I don't hate those people. I just hold an opinion about marriage and I posted that opinion without attacking anyone and look at what happens.

But you do want to segregate them from marriage?

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#122 crediblehulk89
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@Aljosa23:

The words "hate" and "ignorant" are so overused these days. I am not asking you to shed a tear for anyone. I truly am sorry for what some LGBT people have had to go through in their lives. I am asking you to be careful to not become exactly like what you "think" I am just in a different direction. It is hard to win over people when you insult and berate them.

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#123 crediblehulk89
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@deeliman said:

@crediblehulk89 said:

@Makhaidos:

Except that's a ridiculous comment to make. I do not want to segregate LGBT people from anything. Practically no one that is reasonable wants that. I don't hate those people. I just hold an opinion about marriage and I posted that opinion without attacking anyone and look at what happens.

But you do want to segregate them from marriage?

I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. A gay man can marry a woman just like I can. By definition they are not segregated any more than anyone else.....hence why they are trying to change the definition of marriage. Personally, it does not affect me and I do not really care. My marriage is more under God than it is the government. My point was to be careful not to become like the people you are trying to defeat. That doesn't help anyone.

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#124 deeliman
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@crediblehulk89 said:

@deeliman said:

@crediblehulk89 said:

@Makhaidos:

Except that's a ridiculous comment to make. I do not want to segregate LGBT people from anything. Practically no one that is reasonable wants that. I don't hate those people. I just hold an opinion about marriage and I posted that opinion without attacking anyone and look at what happens.

But you do want to segregate them from marriage?

I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. A gay man can marry a woman just like I can. By definition they are not segregated any more than anyone else.....hence why they are trying to change the definition of marriage. Personally, it does not affect me and I do not really care. My marriage is more under God than it is the government. My point was to be careful not to become like the people you are trying to defeat. That doesn't help anyone.

Maybe not by definition, but they are in reality, and that is all that really matters.

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#126  Edited By Makhaidos
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@crediblehulk89 said:

@Makhaidos:

Except that's a ridiculous comment to make. I do not want to segregate LGBT people from anything.

Except marriage. Which, by extension, withholds over 1,100 rights and privileges from LGBT couples that straight couples enjoy.

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#127  Edited By Makhaidos
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@crediblehulk89 said:

@deeliman said:

@crediblehulk89 said:

@Makhaidos:

Except that's a ridiculous comment to make. I do not want to segregate LGBT people from anything. Practically no one that is reasonable wants that. I don't hate those people. I just hold an opinion about marriage and I posted that opinion without attacking anyone and look at what happens.

But you do want to segregate them from marriage?

I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. A gay man can marry a woman just like I can.

A gay man isn't going to fall in love with a woman. If you want to call that equality, then it's the separate-but-equal kind of equality, which is the definition of segregation.

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#129  Edited By deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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@thegerg said:

@Makhaidos said:

@crediblehulk89 said:

@deeliman said:

@crediblehulk89 said:

@Makhaidos:

Except that's a ridiculous comment to make. I do not want to segregate LGBT people from anything. Practically no one that is reasonable wants that. I don't hate those people. I just hold an opinion about marriage and I posted that opinion without attacking anyone and look at what happens.

But you do want to segregate them from marriage?

I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. A gay man can marry a woman just like I can.

A gay man isn't going to fall in love with a woman. If you want to call that equality, then it's the separate-but-equal kind of equality, which is the definition of segregation.

" then it's the separate-but-equal kind of equality, which is the definition of segregation."

No, it's not.

It's separating people based on their characteristics. So yes it is a form of segregation.

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@KC_Hokie said:

@MakeMeaSammitch said:

@KC_Hokie said:

@deeliman said:

@KC_Hokie said:

Both republicans and democrats have huge double-standards in their policies.

Republicans are all for limited, local government until you get into issues like marriage or abortion.

Democrat 'progressives' are all for individual freedom unless it interferes with their government mandate.

I wonder how Americans would feel about having more than 2 parties in congress, all with more or less the same shot at winning the elections.

I'm all for at least one more party. I voted Libertarian straight down the ballot last election (they are the closest thing we have to classical liberals these days).

That term again that only you and other pseudo intellectuals on GS use.

In most of the world they just use the term 'liberal' because that means center or center-right. However, in the United States the so called 'progressive' democrats (far-left) hijacked the term 'liberal', and therefore the term 'classical liberal' is used.

I hear the term "liberal" used more by conservatives that want to label everything isn't "conservative" than I do by "liberals" calling themselves "liberals."