I hate 9/11 conspiracy theorists.

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There's many reasons why the US would want to attack itself..... and thoes reasons shouldnt be overlooked, especially not when there's so many contradictions and errors in the story the government provided.

And I would love to hear someone actually proving these theories wrong instead of just dismissing and ignoring them...

 

xaos

Considering now of the conspiracy theories have no proof and from what I've seen of them.....they are outright lies....it's not necessary....and no, the US would NOT want to attack itself. Seriously dude...I know you're anti US but....:|

Yes it would want to attack itself because the US needed a new enemy after the fall of communism.....A far fetched theory but still very valid if you look into it....

Why would americans lie about 9/11? I would have understood if it were people from Europe or somewhere else but these are americans.....

Why the hell do you think I'm anti US? I'm just providing a different point of view........Are you really that shallow? I've lived in the US for 4 years and I think it is a great country, so don't go and falsely accuse me of being anti american.

I seem to remember you saying the US deserved what happened on 9/11 because of foreign policy......

I said that the US had it comming, because of foreign policy...It was a question of time

Don't twist what I say....

Don't divert this into a grammar debate....

We can discuss in French or German if you want to, since English is my 4th language I find it hard to debate people who speak it fluently.

I meant that it was only a question of time before someone attacked the US......a minor error on my side, I've noted this, problem solved...This have only happened once btw so your last comment was unecessary

I hate them too.EboyLOL

I second that.

Don't divert this into a grammar debate....

We can discuss in French or German if you want to, since English is my 4th language I find it hard to debate people who speak it fluently.

I meant that it was only a question of time before someone attacked the US....

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Don't divert this into a grammar debate....

We can discuss in French or German if you want to, since English is my 4th language I find it hard to debate people who speak it fluently.

I meant that it was only a question of time before someone attacked the US....

xaos

I completely agree with you.

And to clear things up, I'm by no means saying that the US deserved it, I'm saying that it was a question of time since the US pissed people of when they decided to get involved in the middle eastern conflicts.

It was actually the Canadians.  Need proof?

http://www.revisionism.nl/Sept11/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm 

It was actually the Canadians.  Need proof?

http://www.revisionism.nl/Sept11/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm 

Account_27

Of course! Beavers flew the planes, because everyone knows Arabs aren't smart enough to fly planes!

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jointed"]

 

There's many reasons why the US would want to attack itself..... and thoes reasons shouldnt be overlooked, especially not when there's so many contradictions and errors in the story the government provided.

And I would love to hear someone actually proving these theories wrong instead of just dismissing and ignoring them...

 

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Considering now of the conspiracy theories have no proof and from what I've seen of them.....they are outright lies....it's not necessary....and no, the US would NOT want to attack itself. Seriously dude...I know you're anti US but....:|

Yes it would want to attack itself because the US needed a new enemy after the fall of communism.....A far fetched theory but still very valid if you look into it....

Why would americans lie about 9/11? I would have understood if it were people from Europe or somewhere else but these are americans.....

Why the hell do you think I'm anti US? I'm just providing a different point of view........Are you really that shallow? I've lived in the US for 4 years and I think it is a great country, so don't go and falsely accuse me of being anti american.

Wow, you dumb ***es that are talking about America bombing Japan and how it is so bad, are completely wrong.  If Japan never attacked Pearl Harbor then it never would have happened.  They should of that about what we could do back before they did that.  We gave them a chance to surrender.  They are the ones that started it.  The US was defending itself.

P.S. Anyone that thinks the US deserved what it got and could care less about the people that died in 9/11, I don't even have words for.  It's sad.  Leave the US and go live as a towel head somewhere else.

Check out this very funny link: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons . I don't know if someone already posted this because i'm to lazy to check, so i'll post it.

But, one of them is my friend. I keep throwing facts at him on the odd occasion, but he still thinks America attacked itself! WTF!O_Rly_FTW

well we did attack ourselves.

WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S REALLY FUNNY? Everything we believe is told to us on television or the newspaper.. but yet.. things like the bible are wrong because they aren't science.. and the media is. LOL. complete idiocy. I don't care about one or the other. FACT IS: Humans believe what they are told, and not what they see. 

But, one of them is my friend. I keep throwing facts at him on the odd occasion, but he still thinks America attacked itself! WTF!O_Rly_FTW

Your friend is a smart kid. Osama bin Laden is under protection by America...I mean we freaking have like 50,00,000 more troops in Iraq than in Afghanistan...Bush is a disgrace to all the people he murdered. All just to get into Iraq.

I'm not saying he planned it, but I'm saying he made a deal with Osama afterwards and was like "Sweet dude I'm going to Iraq". 

Bush belongs in jail. 

[QUOTE="O_Rly_FTW"]But, one of them is my friend. I keep throwing facts at him on the odd occasion, but he still thinks America attacked itself! WTF!TallicaFan2005

Your friend is a smart kid. Osama bin Laden is under protection by America...I mean we freaking have like 50,00,000 more troops in Iraq than in Afghanistan...Bush is a disgrace to all the people he murdered. All just to get into Iraq.

I'm not saying he planned it, but I'm saying he made a deal with Osama afterwards and was like "Sweet dude I'm going to Iraq".

Bush belongs in jail.

our governent is a 3 headed government, so if u are gonna blame the gov. then blame all three sides because they didnt cancel out Bush's actions.  And of course the ppl who handed him the power....Florida (cough).

[QUOTE="O_Rly_FTW"][QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="O_Rly_FTW"][QUOTE="daniel52587"][QUOTE="O_Rly_FTW"][QUOTE="daniel52587"]Well a bunch of 3rd world iraqis sure as hell didnt FLY an COMMERCIAL AIRLINER into a building that is just a dot in the sky.daniel52587

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[QUOTE="kornholio360"]I sense a long thread...xaos

A long thread of ignoring facts and calling people names if they disagree with you.

Yay for maturity and age level of the GS forums. Most people on these boards aren't even old enough to vote. Of the 20% that are, only half will (10%). Of that 10%, only 1/3 is independent and thinks for themselves. So the people that 9/11 truth concerns make up 3% of the forum population.

It's just not worth it.

9/11 was a self-inflicted, false-flag attack. "But why Mr. retarded conspiricy poopoo head?" Because George Bush needed an excuse to invade Iraq and suck tax dollars out of the American peoples' pockets and put them into his own. Power at any cost.

I'm done...

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af07

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[QUOTE="O_Rly_FTW"]But, one of them is my friend. I keep throwing facts at him on the odd occasion, but he still thinks America attacked itself! WTF!Cesb02

Your friend is a smart kid. Osama bin Laden is under protection by America...I mean we freaking have like 50,00,000 more troops in Iraq than in Afghanistan...Bush is a disgrace to all the people he murdered. All just to get into Iraq.

I'm not saying he planned it, but I'm saying he made a deal with Osama afterwards and was like "Sweet dude I'm going to Iraq".

Bush belongs in jail.

our governent is a 3 headed government, so if u are gonna blame the gov. then blame all three sides because they didnt cancel out Bush's actions. And of course the ppl who handed him the power....Florida (cough).

 congress is trying to do that right now...  with the war spending bill

[QUOTE="O_Rly_FTW"]But, one of them is my friend. I keep throwing facts at him on the odd occasion, but he still thinks America attacked itself! WTF!PlayedThemAll

well we did attack ourselves.

WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S REALLY FUNNY? Everything we believe is told to us on television or the newspaper.. but yet.. things like the bible are wrong because they aren't science.. and the media is. LOL. complete idiocy. I don't care about one or the other. FACT IS: Humans believe what they are told, and not what they see. 

Nearly every point theorists make have been shot down by evidence and common sense. 

If the evidence to the US attacking itself was evident and clear, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

 congress is trying to do that right now...  with the war spending bill

comp_atkins

It'll get vetoed, merely because it's "cutting and running", not common sense apparently.:(

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af07

 

Donkey_Puncher

lol, i love conspiracies. 

"Because in every post you talk about how Americans are a bunch of idiots, you dont become a super power with a bunch of idiots "

No I don't....and actually, the only thing a super power needs is an ignorant population who follows what the government says. The US became a super power because the Europeans fought eachother, not because it did anything special. Same goes for the British Empire and the Roman empire.

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

Hermann Göring - Executive Officer of the Third Reich

"Because in every post you talk about how Americans are a bunch of idiots, you dont become a super power with a bunch of idiots "

No I don't....and actually, the only thing a super power needs is an ignorant population who follows what the government says. The US became a super power because the Europeans fought eachother, not because it did anything special. Same goes for the British Empire and the Roman empire.

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

Hermann Göring - Executive Officer of the Third Reich

 

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Agreed. 

"Because in every post you talk about how Americans are a bunch of idiots, you dont become a super power with a bunch of idiots "

No I don't....and actually, the only thing a super power needs is an ignorant population who follows what the government says. The US became a super power because the Europeans fought eachother, not because it did anything special. Same goes for the British Empire and the Roman empire.

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

Hermann Göring - Executive Officer of the Third Reich

 

 

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Although I do agree with Goering's quot, I have to believe you are out of your mind if you think the Government committed these acts.

Not only do theorists have no evidence, but they defy the laws of physics, pervert science, and make huge leaps in logic and common sense.  i.e. keeping a secret this big from millions of people in plain site, while a few kids on the internet are able to see it.

"Because in every post you talk about how Americans are a bunch of idiots, you dont become a super power with a bunch of idiots "

No I don't....and actually, the only thing a super power needs is an ignorant population who follows what the government says. The US became a super power because the Europeans fought eachother, not because it did anything special. Same goes for the British Empire and the Roman empire.

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

Hermann Göring - Executive Officer of the Third Reich

 

 

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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

congress is trying to do that right now... with the war spending bill

Donkey_Puncher

It'll get vetoed, merely because it's "cutting and running", not common sense apparently.:(

thats why they should just spin it around and re-send the same bill back to bush.. make him keep on vetoing it...  its about time someone stand up to him

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"Because in every post you talk about how Americans are a bunch of idiots, you dont become a super power with a bunch of idiots "

No I don't....and actually, the only thing a super power needs is an ignorant population who follows what the government says. The US became a super power because the Europeans fought eachother, not because it did anything special. Same goes for the British Empire and the Roman empire.

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

Hermann Göring - Executive Officer of the Third Reich

 

 

Donkey_Puncher

Although I do agree with Goering's quot, I have to believe you are out of your mind if you think the Government committed these acts.

Not only do theorists have no evidence, but they defy the laws of physics, pervert science, and make huge leaps in logic and common sense.  i.e. keeping a secret this big from millions of people in plain site, while a few kids on the internet are able to see it.

I have no doubt that america was attacked by terrorists that day. The question is wether the US government allowed it to happend or not.

I posted the quote to back up my claims which were that a super nation doesnt need to do anything special to become one, it just has to controll its people properly.

Exsistance, and opinons are subjective ideas created by the persepective of many different people.

You're all wrong.

Anyone can have a right answer. Just like anyone can have the wrong answer.

Here is why. All of our facts and information are not tested scientific expirements. They are pieces of material that proclaim to be science. Yet, we've never seen them replecated infront of us. So, why do we believe in them? Because someone say's it 's so.

It's all apart of culture. We know nothing. We just think we do.

Whether conspiracy's or plots to create war, or money, or whatever someone wants.. those ideas don't mean anything. Just like any other idea us silly people create. 

Exsistance, and opinons are subjective ideas created by the persepective of many different people.

 

You're all wrong.

 

Anyone can have a right answer. Just like anyone can have the wrong answer.

 

Here is why. All of our facts and information are not tested scientific expirements. They are pieces of material that proclaim to be science. Yet, we've never seen them replecated infront of us. So, why do we believe in them? Because someone say's it 's so.

 

It's all apart of culture. We know nothing. We just think we do.

 

Whether conspiracy's or plots to create war, or money, or whatever someone wants.. those ideas don't mean anything. Just like any other idea us silly people create. 

PlayedThemAll

This post is wrong on so many levels.

Exsistance, and opinons are subjective ideas created by the persepective of many different people.

You're all wrong.

Anyone can have a right answer. Just like anyone can have the wrong answer.

Here is why. All of our facts and information are not tested scientific expirements. They are pieces of material that proclaim to be science. Yet, we've never seen them replecated infront of us. So, why do we believe in them? Because someone say's it 's so.

It's all apart of culture. We know nothing. We just think we do.

Whether conspiracy's or plots to create war, or money, or whatever someone wants.. those ideas don't mean anything. Just like any other idea us silly people create.

PlayedThemAll

[QUOTE="PlayedThemAll"]

Exsistance, and opinons are subjective ideas created by the persepective of many different people.

 

You're all wrong.

 

Anyone can have a right answer. Just like anyone can have the wrong answer.

 

Here is why. All of our facts and information are not tested scientific expirements. They are pieces of material that proclaim to be science. Yet, we've never seen them replecated infront of us. So, why do we believe in them? Because someone say's it 's so.

 

It's all apart of culture. We know nothing. We just think we do.

 

Whether conspiracy's or plots to create war, or money, or whatever someone wants.. those ideas don't mean anything. Just like any other idea us silly people create. 

LJS9502_basic

This post is wrong on so many levels.

I don't know if it's just me, but I can't see anything wrong with it at all, since what he says is true. And if it's not, please explain

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="PlayedThemAll"]

Exsistance, and opinons are subjective ideas created by the persepective of many different people.

You're all wrong.

Anyone can have a right answer. Just like anyone can have the wrong answer.

Here is why. All of our facts and information are not tested scientific expirements. They are pieces of material that proclaim to be science. Yet, we've never seen them replecated infront of us. So, why do we believe in them? Because someone say's it 's so.

It's all apart of culture. We know nothing. We just think we do.

Whether conspiracy's or plots to create war, or money, or whatever someone wants.. those ideas don't mean anything. Just like any other idea us silly people create.

jointed

This post is wrong on so many levels.

I don't know if it's just me, but I can't see anything wrong with it at all, since what he says is true. And if it's not, please explain

I don't know if it's just me, but I can't see anything wrong with it at all, since what he says is true. And if it's not, please explain

jointed

It's not opinion at all.  The conspiracy theories have been shown to be incorrect time and time again.  It's not subjective based.  He is wrong and if you agree....you are wrong.

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I don't know if it's just me, but I can't see anything wrong with it at all, since what he says is true. And if it's not, please explain

LJS9502_basic

It's not opinion at all. The conspiracy theories have been shown to be incorrect time and time again. It's not subjective based. He is wrong and if you agree....you are wrong.

I just lawled. Listen to LJ, he knows what he's talking about. 

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I don't know if it's just me, but I can't see anything wrong with it at all, since what he says is true. And if it's not, please explain

LJS9502_basic

It's not opinion at all.  The conspiracy theories have been shown to be incorrect time and time again.  It's not subjective based.  He is wrong and if you agree....you are wrong.

He doesnt say that conspiracy theories are right....

What I'm agreeing with is that none of us actually know anything about what's really going on..... We can come with fancy links and facts but in the end we're all in the same boat, sheeps of our goverments.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jointed"]

I don't know if it's just me, but I can't see anything wrong with it at all, since what he says is true. And if it's not, please explain

jointed

It's not opinion at all.  The conspiracy theories have been shown to be incorrect time and time again.  It's not subjective based.  He is wrong and if you agree....you are wrong.

He doesnt say that conspiracy theories are right....

What I'm agreeing with is that none of us actually know anything about what's really going on..... We can come with fancy links and facts but in the end we're all in the same boat, sheeps of our goverments.

That means there are no facts to bolster the opposite argument....it's not opinion.  Period.:roll:

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jointed"]

I don't know if it's just me, but I can't see anything wrong with it at all, since what he says is true. And if it's not, please explain

jointed

It's not opinion at all. The conspiracy theories have been shown to be incorrect time and time again. It's not subjective based. He is wrong and if you agree....you are wrong.

He doesnt say that conspiracy theories are right....

What I'm agreeing with is that none of us actually know anything about what's really going on..... We can come with fancy links and facts but in the end we're all in the same boat, sheeps of our goverments.

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jointed"]

I don't know if it's just me, but I can't see anything wrong with it at all, since what he says is true. And if it's not, please explain

LJS9502_basic

It's not opinion at all.  The conspiracy theories have been shown to be incorrect time and time again.  It's not subjective based.  He is wrong and if you agree....you are wrong.

He doesnt say that conspiracy theories are right....

What I'm agreeing with is that none of us actually know anything about what's really going on..... We can come with fancy links and facts but in the end we're all in the same boat, sheeps of our goverments.

That means there are no facts to bolster the opposite argument....it's not opinion.  Period.:roll:

you just have to post the rolling eyes...

And I don't really know why you keep talking about "opinion"....no it's not opinion...

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jointed"]

I don't know if it's just me, but I can't see anything wrong with it at all, since what he says is true. And if it's not, please explain

ROLFCHANK

It's not opinion at all. The conspiracy theories have been shown to be incorrect time and time again. It's not subjective based. He is wrong and if you agree....you are wrong.

He doesnt say that conspiracy theories are right....

What I'm agreeing with is that none of us actually know anything about what's really going on..... We can come with fancy links and facts but in the end we're all in the same boat, sheeps of our goverments.

Don't put words in my mouth...

I'm saying that none of us know how the politics actually are handeled....and I'm also saying that the core of your social knowledge is created by society ...which is controlled by the government.

Facts will always be twisted...

You're being shallow if you think that I'm trying to explain a conspiracy theory....

I sense a long thread...kornholio360

that what the US gets for being a crappy country in the first place...remember things in the past will bite u in the rear again....see i hate how everyone got mad about them and that they killed alot of people in the towers, and blaming them for their loses....its this countrys fault! and do we do about it??? we go to war!!!!!!!!!!!! i dont give a rats on all the people that died.... do u remember what the US did to hiroshima and nagasaki? they killed over 90,000 in seconds...they deserve whatever happendtrey555555

So are you saying Japan didn't desurve it.  Some people.:roll: 

[QUOTE="daniel52587"]Well a bunch of 3rd world iraqis sure as hell didnt FLY an COMMERCIAL AIRLINER into a building that is just a dot in the sky.O_Rly_FTW

the US did alot more damage to the familys of hiroshima and nagasaki, and what did they do??? nothing...why??? cause they couldnt....the only reason we are fighting them is because we are bigger...we are bullys the smaller countrystrey555555

If American troops invaded instead of using the bomb.  Everyone of those "families" would have sacrificed themselves to kill as many troops as they could.  In a way, we killed just as many, as if we would have invaded. We just didn't give them the chance to kill alot of our men.

[QUOTE="chandlerr_360"]

[QUOTE="trey555555"]yes they did...but did they attack with atomicS bombs??? no they didntsinarilias

Shut up, like I said before, those two bombs save more innocent lives than it killed.

Again. US lives were saved. NOT the Japanese.

Actually, I'd be willing to bet more Japanese lives were spared as well. 

To all the people saying America was stupid for dropping atomic bombs on Japan:

You're absolutely right; we shouldn't have done that. After all, just becuse they sucker-punched Pearl Harbor doesn't give us the right to complain about it. If only we could go back in time and surrender to the Japanese like we SHOULD have done, the world would have been a better place. And that's what we should do with this war: surrender and let the guys who killed thousands of people in 9/11 come in and better our country for us. After all, we don't have the right to defend ourselves, as WWII clearly shows. Why oh why didn't we just surrender?!?!!

Hypocrites.

GameBoy966

  A sound secondary was to detonate the bomb at sea so Japan could see what brutal power the bomb was capable of, some many hypotheisised that Japan might have surrendered due to that.

   And I think really the only way to compare 9/11 issue on why terrorists have attacked us then was many things we have done to the middle east.  Though no terrorist attack is justified against civilians, the US has made alot of many enemies by supporting numerous dictatorships.. They gave Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria, etc etc all brutal dictatorship that killed their own people support both economically and political at times.. Even worse we were the ones that gave countries such as Iran and Iraq weapons. 

   But to answer the original question:  Yeah compiracy therorists are so stupid, they reminds me of fanatics/zealots who regardless of numerous proven facts they still believe otherwise.

"Because in every post you talk about how Americans are a bunch of idiots, you dont become a super power with a bunch of idiots "

No I don't....and actually, the only thing a super power needs is an ignorant population who follows what the government says. The US became a super power because the Europeans fought eachother, not because it did anything special. Same goes for the British Empire and the Roman empire.

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

Hermann Göring - Executive Officer of the Third Reich

 

 

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The US became a superpower based on its large industrial and economic strengths - it was an emerging superpower even before WW2, the war just caused the US to ramp up both its industrial and political muscle.  Prior to WW2, the US was trying to adopt a policy of isolationism, but after WW 2 it became a major political force in the world.

[QUOTE="ROLFCHANK"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jointed"]

I don't know if it's just me, but I can't see anything wrong with it at all, since what he says is true. And if it's not, please explain

jointed

It's not opinion at all. The conspiracy theories have been shown to be incorrect time and time again. It's not subjective based. He is wrong and if you agree....you are wrong.

He doesnt say that conspiracy theories are right....

What I'm agreeing with is that none of us actually know anything about what's really going on..... We can come with fancy links and facts but in the end we're all in the same boat, sheeps of our goverments.

Don't put words in my mouth...

I'm saying that none of us know how the politics actually are handeled....and I'm also saying that the core of your social knowledge is created by society ...which is controlled by the government.

Facts will always be twisted...

You're being shallow if you think that I'm trying to explain a conspiracy theory....