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[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]I just dont like the fact that college cost too much. I dont get why one must pay thousands of dollars to be lectured and then to buy very expensive books. I guess its a way to even things out in society I guess. rawsavon
TBH, the cost of education is legit. The cost of books, on the other hand, is a crime...a total scam

If I knew any better, I would've searched the Internet for books.

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[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]I just dont like the fact that college cost too much. I dont get why one must pay thousands of dollars to be lectured and then to buy very expensive books. I guess its a way to even things out in society I guess. rawsavon
TBH, the cost of education is legit. The cost of books, on the other hand, is a crime...a total scam

I spent 250 dollars on an Algebra book with 16 chapters. We covered 4 chapters. We almost covered none of them because my professor told us that she didn't want to teach us out of the book because it was "written by men".

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I just dont like the fact that college cost too much. I dont get why one must pay thousands of dollars to be lectured and then to buy very expensive books. I guess its a way to even things out in society I guess. Fuhgeddabouditt
the books, my god, 200 bucks for a 300 page book is pure madness. i dont think 3,500 per semester is that bad for instate, well thats what i paid anyway
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TBH, the cost of education is legit. The cost of books, on the other hand, is a crime...a total scamrawsavon
Plus new editions every year where they change the order of the chapters for no apparent reason - forcing you to buy the new one lest you be constantly lost because the instructor's assignments don't match the book. And then the ones they don't buy back... when I move that's going to be the toughest part - moving hundreds of pounds of old text books :lol:
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]I just dont like the fact that college cost too much. I dont get why one must pay thousands of dollars to be lectured and then to buy very expensive books. I guess its a way to even things out in society I guess. King9999

TBH, the cost of education is legit. The cost of books, on the other hand, is a crime...a total scam

If I knew any better, I would've searched the Internet for books.

That is only a small part of the scam (online vs brick bookstore) The main part is the 'new editions' each year -some books need it (science, politics, etc)...but most do not
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#56 Engrish_Major
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[QUOTE="Atmanix"]

I spent 250 dollars on an Algebra book with 16 chapters. We covered 4 chapters. We almost covered none of them because my professor told us that she didn't want to teach us out of the book because it was "written by men".

If only we could get the feminine view of Algebra, I'd feel so much more well-rounded.
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]I just dont like the fact that college cost too much. I dont get why one must pay thousands of dollars to be lectured and then to buy very expensive books. I guess its a way to even things out in society I guess. King9999

TBH, the cost of education is legit. The cost of books, on the other hand, is a crime...a total scam

If I knew any better, I would've searched the Internet for books.

I have saved 150 to 250 euro a semester by downlo... I mean, borrowing books :D
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I spent 250 dollars on an Algebra book Atmanix

same for me...calculus
-but we used it for Cal I, 2, and 3

My accounting books were the most overpriced

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="Atmanix"]

I spent 250 dollars on an Algebra book with 16 chapters. We covered 4 chapters. We almost covered none of them because my professor told us that she didn't want to teach us out of the book because it was "written by men".

If only we could get the feminine view of Algebra, I'd feel so much more well-rounded.

no problem, just tell me how the number 7 makes you feel and what do you think X does in her free time
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[QUOTE="Atmanix"]

I spent 250 dollars on an Algebra book with 16 chapters. We covered 4 chapters. We almost covered none of them because my professor told us that she didn't want to teach us out of the book because it was "written by men".

Engrish_Major
If only we could get the feminine view of Algebra, I'd feel so much more well-rounded.

I like 'em that way...
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[QUOTE="Atmanix"]

I spent 250 dollars on an Algebra book rawsavon

same for me...calculus
-but we used it for Cal I, 2, and 3

My accounting books were the most overpriced

no kidding, one semester i spent 150 on 6 books for an english C_L_A_S_S and 180- 250 on each book for auditing, international finance, international accounting, and AIS. AIS needed 3 books

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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="Atmanix"]

I spent 250 dollars on an Algebra book surrealnumber5

same for me...calculus
-but we used it for Cal I, 2, and 3

My accounting books were the most overpriced

no kidding, one semester i spent 150 on 6 books for an english C_L_A_S_S and 180- 250 on each book for auditing, international finance, international accounting, and AIS. AIS needed 3 books

And they can get away with a new book each year in accounting b/c a the law changes each year...I needed three Tax books (that change each year)

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#63 Engrish_Major
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I like 'em that way...rawsavon
You can divide my pi anyday... /badjoke
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="Atmanix"]

I spent 250 dollars on an Algebra book surrealnumber5

same for me...calculus
-but we used it for Cal I, 2, and 3

My accounting books were the most overpriced

no kidding, one semester i spent 150 on 6 books for an english C_L_A_S_S and 180- 250 on each book for auditing, international finance, international accounting, and AIS. AIS needed 3 books

Yep, it is out of control. I think they get away with it since student loans are more or less like a credit card. Hearing that you don't have to pay for it now and that you have a low interest rate on your loan helps people forget just how much money they're actually spending. Once you're done though, and those first payments kick in, it becomes a lot more real.

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[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]I just dont like the fact that college cost too much. I dont get why one must pay thousands of dollars to be lectured and then to buy very expensive books. I guess its a way to even things out in society I guess. surrealnumber5
the books, my god, 200 bucks for a 300 page book is pure madness. i dont think 3,500 per semester is that bad for instate, well thats what i paid anyway

Yikes :shock: costs me ~750 euro per semester. I think. Damn socialist government :D
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"] I like 'em that way...Engrish_Major
You can divide my pi anyday... /badjoke

I liked it... [spoiler] very dirty :oops: [/spoiler]
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#67 Mercenary848
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Put "watches history channel and surfs wikipedia" on a resume see how many jobs you get.

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#68 rawsavon
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Once you're done though, and those first payments kick in, it becomes a lot more real.

Atmanix

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Tell me about it

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I enjoyed going to college since it gave me a structured learning process when before I had been all over the place, and my lecturers were able to engage me in debates which were insightful and hardly obvious. I could have read a book or watched documentaries, but it's not the same.

Getting a degree also shows you can truck along in an establishment, and work well with people, and can show respect without resentment and stuff.

But yes, you don't 'need' to go to college. Nobody 'needs' to go to college.

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#70 Atmanix
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Put "watches history channel and surfs wikipedia" on a resume see how many jobs you get.

Mercenary848

My wife works in HR. She had a woman put "Easy on the eyes" under the special skills section of her resume.

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

same for me...calculus
-but we used it for Cal I, 2, and 3

My accounting books were the most overpriced

rawsavon

no kidding, one semester i spent 150 on 6 books for an english C_L_A_S_S and 180- 250 on each book for auditing, international finance, international accounting, and AIS. AIS needed 3 books

And they can get away with a new book each year in accounting b/c a the law changes each year...I needed three Tax books (that change each year)

thats why i try to avoid taxes, even though it seems every year i am sifting through code and filling out forms for family and friends, its my least liked accounting sector because it totally changes every year. you may know what the laws are but you always need to look up this years tweaks

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Put "watches history channel and surfs wikipedia" on a resume see how many jobs you get.

Mercenary848
"So Mr____, do you have a degree in Accounting?" "No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night (and watched CNN)"
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I enjoyed going to college since it gave me a structured learning process when before I had been all over the place, and my lecturers were able to engage me in debates which were insightful and hardly obvious. I could have read a book or watched documentaries, but it's not the same.

Getting a degree also shows you can truck along in an establishment, and work well with people, and can show respect without resentment and stuff.

But yes, you don't 'need' to go to college. Nobody 'needs' to go to college.

MissLibrarian

Very well said...

thats why i try to avoid taxes, even though it seems every year i am sifting through code and filling out forms for family and friends, its my least liked accounting sector because it totally changes every year. you may know what the laws are but you always need to look up this years tweaks

surrealnumber5

Same here.
I am in oil and gas acct.

Hell,I hate doing my own taxes :lol:

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]I just dont like the fact that college cost too much. I dont get why one must pay thousands of dollars to be lectured and then to buy very expensive books. I guess its a way to even things out in society I guess. locopatho
the books, my god, 200 bucks for a 300 page book is pure madness. i dont think 3,500 per semester is that bad for instate, well thats what i paid anyway

Yikes :shock: costs me ~750 euro per semester. I think. Damn socialist government :D

lol one of my exs went to a school that cost 35k per semester, she had a free ride because of her skin color, but compared to that my school was damn near free
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[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]

Put "watches history channel and surfs wikipedia" on a resume see how many jobs you get.

Atmanix

My wife works in HR. She had a woman put "Easy on the eyes" under the special skills section of her resume.

Sounds like something Lindsey Lohan would do.

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#76 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="Tangmashi"]

[QUOTE="Atmanix"]

[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]

Put "watches history channel and surfs wikipedia" on a resume see how many jobs you get.

My wife works in HR. She had a woman put "Easy on the eyes" under the special skills section of her resume.

Sounds like something Lindsey Lohan would do.

I wonder if she lied on her resume...
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#77 Engrish_Major
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[QUOTE="Tangmashi"]

[QUOTE="Atmanix"]

[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]

Put "watches history channel and surfs wikipedia" on a resume see how many jobs you get.

My wife works in HR. She had a woman put "Easy on the eyes" under the special skills section of her resume.

Sounds like something Lindsey Lohan would do.

Heck, I'm no stranger to elaborating on my "special" skills on my resume. Due to my urban living experience, I can quickly and accurately name all 250 varieties of hobo.
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Why is it that people who can't get into university / college feel the need to belittle it at every opportunity? Is it to make themselves feel better?karriston
Why is it that people who attend university/college feel the need to belittle others who dont at every opportunity? Is it to make themselves feel better? Face it, there is a lot more of people who attend that belittle people who dont. 95% of the students i've met in college are some of the most big headed, stuck up arrogant people ive every met that always feel they are better than others outside of uni. But there are some down to earth people that I have met but it was slim i'll tell ya :)
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[QUOTE="karriston"]Why is it that people who can't get into university / college feel the need to belittle it at every opportunity? Is it to make themselves feel better?Fuhgeddabouditt
Why is it that people who attend university/college feel the need to belittle others who dont at every opportunity? Is it to make themselves feel better? Face it, there is a lot more of people who attend that belittle people who dont. 95% of the students i've met in college are some of the most big headed, stuck up arrogant people ive every met that always feel they are better than others outside of uni. But there are some down to earth people that I have met but it was slim i'll tell ya :)

To be fair, I was "big headed, stuck up arrogant" before I went to college...
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]I just dont like the fact that college cost too much. I dont get why one must pay thousands of dollars to be lectured and then to buy very expensive books. I guess its a way to even things out in society I guess. Atmanix

TBH, the cost of education is legit. The cost of books, on the other hand, is a crime...a total scam

I spent 250 dollars on an Algebra book with 16 chapters. We covered 4 chapters. We almost covered none of them because my professor told us that she didn't want to teach us out of the book because it was "written by men".

I remember one semester, the Professor told everyone to buy her 300 dollar, self written text book. Throughout the entire semester, we only read 2 chapters out of it..
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[QUOTE="Atmanix"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] TBH, the cost of education is legit. The cost of books, on the other hand, is a crime...a total scamFuhgeddabouditt

I spent 250 dollars on an Algebra book with 16 chapters. We covered 4 chapters. We almost covered none of them because my professor told us that she didn't want to teach us out of the book because it was "written by men".

I remember one semester, the Professor told everyone to buy her 300 dollar, self written text book. Throughout the entire semester, we only read 2 chapters out of it..

back when i was in a community college my econ professor wrote a Etext that he gave us access to for free, he told us not to buy the book forced on him by the school
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[QUOTE="Atmanix"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] TBH, the cost of education is legit. The cost of books, on the other hand, is a crime...a total scamFuhgeddabouditt

I spent 250 dollars on an Algebra book with 16 chapters. We covered 4 chapters. We almost covered none of them because my professor told us that she didn't want to teach us out of the book because it was "written by men".

I remember one semester, the Professor told everyone to buy her 300 dollar, self written text book. Throughout the entire semester, we only read 2 chapters out of it..

Yep, same thing happened to my wife. They were required to buy the professor's book even though they never actually used it for more than one or two small assignments. It wasn't 300 dollars but it was still ridiculous.

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[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"][QUOTE="karriston"]Why is it that people who can't get into university / college feel the need to belittle it at every opportunity? Is it to make themselves feel better?rawsavon
Why is it that people who attend university/college feel the need to belittle others who dont at every opportunity? Is it to make themselves feel better? Face it, there is a lot more of people who attend that belittle people who dont. 95% of the students i've met in college are some of the most big headed, stuck up arrogant people ive every met that always feel they are better than others outside of uni. But there are some down to earth people that I have met but it was slim i'll tell ya :)

To be fair, I was "big headed, stuck up arrogant" before I went to college...

you need some level of self confidence in the accounting field
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"] Why is it that people who attend university/college feel the need to belittle others who dont at every opportunity? Is it to make themselves feel better? Face it, there is a lot more of people who attend that belittle people who dont. 95% of the students i've met in college are some of the most big headed, stuck up arrogant people ive every met that always feel they are better than others outside of uni. But there are some down to earth people that I have met but it was slim i'll tell ya :)surrealnumber5
To be fair, I was "big headed, stuck up arrogant" before I went to college...

you need some level of self confidence in the accounting field

Very true...
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I think you are on to something because so far with my career I have no needed my college degree.
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#86 Atmanix
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I think you are on to something because so far with my career I have no needed my college degree.CyleM

What do you do?

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Personally, I don't have to be at the top of my class...if I have a skill I can sell to a industry then it's fine.

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I think you are on to something because so far with my career I have no needed my college degree.CyleM
I didn't even recognize you :shock: You are in a bad spot b/c of family stuff though. Otherwise you could take that experience and leave (what most people do with their first job after college) -you get put in a spot, and it is often hard to get out (especially if you are really good at your job)
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you cant compare the paycheck of a maid to the one of a lawyer...
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[QUOTE="CyleM"]I think you are on to something because so far with my career I have no needed my college degree.rawsavon
I didn't even recognize you :shock: You are in a bad spot b/c of family stuff though. Otherwise you could take that experience and leave (what most people do with their first job after college) -you get put in a spot, and it is often hard to get out (especially if you are really good at your job)

Yeah I thought to put a little happier spin on Snake and on life, we will see how long it lasts. Yes I know i am in a bad spot but I hope one day soon I will be able to get out of here. Even though I just got a promotion that went into effect today I am doing the exact same job but now make just a little more. The only bad thing that sucks about the promotion is now I can't really apply for any other jobs in the company cause I have to stay at the position for one full year before I can apply for something else, unless I get special permission to do it. Who knows, I might try another company or just be a teacher so I would only have to work 9 months a year and then play games the rest of the time!
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#91 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="CyleM"]I think you are on to something because so far with my career I have no needed my college degree.CyleM
I didn't even recognize you :shock: You are in a bad spot b/c of family stuff though. Otherwise you could take that experience and leave (what most people do with their first job after college) -you get put in a spot, and it is often hard to get out (especially if you are really good at your job)

Yeah I thought to put a little happier spin on Snake and on life, we will see how long it lasts. Yes I know i am in a bad spot but I hope one day soon I will be able to get out of here. Even though I just got a promotion that went into effect today I am doing the exact same job but now make just a little more. The only bad thing that sucks about the promotion is now I can't really apply for any other jobs in the company cause I have to stay at the position for one full year before I can apply for something else, unless I get special permission to do it. Who knows, I might try another company or just be a teacher so I would only have to work 9 months a year and then play games the rest of the time!

1. Congrats 2. 'Titles' are good when applying other places
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you cant compare the paycheck of a maid to the one of a lawyer...lightleggy
sure you can, but if one made a bar graph it would look silly to say the least
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#93 CyleM
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[QUOTE="CyleM"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] I didn't even recognize you :shock: You are in a bad spot b/c of family stuff though. Otherwise you could take that experience and leave (what most people do with their first job after college) -you get put in a spot, and it is often hard to get out (especially if you are really good at your job)rawsavon
Yeah I thought to put a little happier spin on Snake and on life, we will see how long it lasts. Yes I know i am in a bad spot but I hope one day soon I will be able to get out of here. Even though I just got a promotion that went into effect today I am doing the exact same job but now make just a little more. The only bad thing that sucks about the promotion is now I can't really apply for any other jobs in the company cause I have to stay at the position for one full year before I can apply for something else, unless I get special permission to do it. Who knows, I might try another company or just be a teacher so I would only have to work 9 months a year and then play games the rest of the time!

1. Congrats 2. 'Titles' are good when applying other places

Thanks again but I don't think going from a Customer Service Representative II to a Customer Service Representative III doesn't really look all that flattering. lol
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#94 Atmanix
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="CyleM"] Yeah I thought to put a little happier spin on Snake and on life, we will see how long it lasts. Yes I know i am in a bad spot but I hope one day soon I will be able to get out of here. Even though I just got a promotion that went into effect today I am doing the exact same job but now make just a little more. The only bad thing that sucks about the promotion is now I can't really apply for any other jobs in the company cause I have to stay at the position for one full year before I can apply for something else, unless I get special permission to do it. Who knows, I might try another company or just be a teacher so I would only have to work 9 months a year and then play games the rest of the time!CyleM
1. Congrats 2. 'Titles' are good when applying other places

Thanks again but I don't think going from a Customer Service Representative II to a Customer Service Representative III doesn't really look all that flattering. lol

Well, at least you got a promotion and a raise without any new responsibility?

We haven't had raises in 2 years now.

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#95 Ontain
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if you're going to be in any of the sciences, engineering, research, etc fields then you need one. while you might be able to get the same education from the library you will not likely have the same lab skills, group work, projects, etc. also employers don't have the time or patience to assess each individual that applies for a job. they'll just look at your resume and only talk to the one that are most qualified. Without that piece of paper they have no idea what you might or might not know.
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It's what I like to call the circleyoink of life. It really is like a big club that you have to pay dues to in order to get some of the good jobs. You can occasionally find good, high paying jobs without it, or start a business of your own, but do you really want to intentionally make your life harder than it might be?
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#97 CyleM
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[QUOTE="CyleM"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] 1. Congrats 2. 'Titles' are good when applying other placesAtmanix

Thanks again but I don't think going from a Customer Service Representative II to a Customer Service Representative III doesn't really look all that flattering. lol

Well, at least you got a promotion and a raise without any new responsibility?

We haven't had raises in 2 years now.

Damn that sucks and I was pissed cause it took me a 1 and 3 months to get a raise. Hopefully this economy will get better again.
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#98 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="Atmanix"]

[QUOTE="CyleM"] Thanks again but I don't think going from a Customer Service Representative II to a Customer Service Representative III doesn't really look all that flattering. lolCyleM

Well, at least you got a promotion and a raise without any new responsibility?

We haven't had raises in 2 years now.

Damn that sucks and I was pissed cause it took me a 1 and 3 months to get a raise. Hopefully this economy will get better again.

not likely but hay theirs always hope
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#99 Atmanix
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[QUOTE="CyleM"][QUOTE="Atmanix"]

Well, at least you got a promotion and a raise without any new responsibility?

We haven't had raises in 2 years now.

surrealnumber5

Damn that sucks and I was pissed cause it took me a 1 and 3 months to get a raise. Hopefully this economy will get better again.

not likely but hay theirs always hope

and change

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#100 needled24-7
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um true you can still learn a lot of stuff without going to college, but if you don't go to college, you can't get that degree, therefor you can't get as good of a job, which is what we all really want, that's basically what our first 20 years are preparing us for, right?