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#1 Sign-Number-Two
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I know I can find the answer for most of these questions by simply searching the net, but I don't want to read long text walls or visiting numerous websites and also I want to know about different opinions ,so I decided to ask them here:

1. Do atheists really think we humans are evolved version of monkeys? and if not, what do they think about the creation of the very first human? ( I don't say the universe to prevent making things complicated. so only answer about the creation of the first human )

2. Do atheists consider theists as some kind of retard or they have respect for them in the heart?

3. Do atheist believe in no God and afterlife or they just don't believe in them the way theists do?

4. What is an atheist's motivation to do good deeds?

5. Do atheist believe in the existence of prophets? I mean do atheists think Jesus Christ existed, but was a liar or they believe there was no such person at all?

I think that's enough for now.and also if you only want to answer only one of these questions, feel free to do it. It's not necessary to answer all of them at once.

Thanks in advance.

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#2 YellowOneKinobi
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Whether Athiests or Believers, neither is a monolithic group. You will have some people on both sides that are respectful towards the other side, and you will have some that just throw bombs at each other.

Like so many things, there is good and bad in all groups.

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#3 LoG-Sacrament
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I know I can find the answer for most of these questions by simply searching the net, but I don't want to read long text walls or visiting numerous websites and also I want to know about different opinions ,so I decided to ask them here:

1. Do atheists really think we humans are evolved version of monkeys? and if not, what do they think about the creation of the very first human? ( I don't say the universe to prevent making things complicated. so only answer about the creation of the first human )

2. Do atheists consider theists as some kind of retard or they have respect for them in the heart?

3. Do atheist believe in no God and afterlife or they just don't believe in them the way theists do?

4. What is an atheist's motivation to do good deeds?

5. Do atheist believe in the existence of prophets? I mean do atheists think Jesus Christ existed, but was a liar or they believe there was no such person at all?

I think that's enough for now.and also if you only want to answer only one of these questions, feel free to do it. It's not necessary to answer all of them at once.

Thanks in advance.

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i havent done my atheist questionnaire in a while: 1) i understand evolution 2) it depends entirely on the theist 3) i dont believe in any god or afterlife. its lights out. 4) it feels good helping people. it doesnt feel good hurting people. 5) jesus probably existed. he just wasnt superman.
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I know I can find the answer for most of these questions by simply searching the net, but I don't want to read long text walls or visiting numerous websites and also I want to know about different opinions ,so I decided to ask them here:

1. Do atheists really think we humans are evolved version of monkeys? and if not, what do they think about the creation of the very first human? ( I don't say the universe to prevent making things complicated. so only answer about the creation of the first human )

Sign-Number-Two
I shall only answer question one, simply because this is not speculation and you can be a theist and still believe in evolution. Creationists believe that the world was created in 7 days. Evolution is a widely accepted and well researched scientific theory. I am Catholic and believe in evolution, religion does not dictate your comprehension for logic and science, you do (not you personally)
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There are no atheist beliefs. Atheism is not believing in a god, nothing more

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I'm not an athesit, but I do believe in evolution. Don't think I'm qualified to answer the other ones seeing how I am not an atheist though.

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#7 XilePrincess
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I'm more agnostic, but I'll answer anyway. 1. I don't know what I believe, really. We could have been a subspecies that was similar to monkeys but not directly related. I just assume there's a scientific explanation for everything and I'm not a scientist so I won't try to understand it. I just know that assuming a person popped out of nothingness is illogical and until there is undeniable proof that that is what happened, I'm going to assume it was all science. 2. No, I have respect for those who hold religion dear to them because they want some sort of security blanket. Life is scary, death is scary. I can't blame anyone for wanting to feel secure. It's the ones who shove stuff down other people's throats that bother me. 3. I want to believe in an afterlife, but I don't know if I do. I'm open to the idea of ghosts and I'm open to the idea of spirits in a spirit world, whether it be heaven-like or not so much. I want to believe there's somebody out there looking out for us, but I think my idea of a god fits more like Zeus in Hercules than Jesus. 4. My motivation is to spread a little happy. I was raised as a polite person and doing things for others is just what I do. The world sucks, it's full of sadness. Just do something to make somebody else smile when you can. 5. Again, I'm not sure. I'm more open to ghosts and stuff than I am other things, maybe because I watch too much tv or because it seems to make more sense. I believe in mediums and the like if ghosts are real, because they are not all powerful and need somebody to translate. A god is all powerful, why does he need prophets to tell other people stuff? Just explode through the clouds and say it yourself. I don't know whether Jesus existed, but I think if he didn't and is just a story, it's still a nice story.
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1. Do atheists really think we humans are evolved version of monkeys? and if not, what do they think about the creation of the very first human? ( I don't say the universe to prevent making things complicated. so only answer about the creation of the first human )

2. Do atheists consider theists as some kind of retard or they have respect for them in the heart?

3. Do atheist believe in no God and afterlife or they just don't believe in them the way theists do?

4. What is an atheist's motivation to do good deeds?

5. Do atheist believe in the existence of prophets? I mean do atheists think Jesus Christ existed, but was a liar or they believe there was no such person at all?

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1. I believe in evolution. I do not believe that we evolved from monkeys.

2. I have respect for theists. As long as you don't push your beliefs on me we're cool.

3. I do not believe in a god or an afterlife.

4. It makes me feel good about myself.

5. I think Jesus existed but I believe he was just a normal man.

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#9 NVIDIATI
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There are no atheist beliefs. Atheism is not believing in a god, nothing more

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This^

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#10 foxhound_fox
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1) No. Scientists (atheists can be religious, and not scientific) know that humans evolved from a less-advanced species of ape, not monkeys. There is a difference, and it must be acknowledged.

2) Only anti-theists think theists are "dumb." True atheists get a bad rap thanks to them, because being "without theos" or "without belief in God" doesn't mean it is without belief as a choice, but merely without reason to believe.

3) Some atheists believe in certain supernatural, or preternatural (something natural, but not explainable) things such as ghosts or the afterlife, but by definition they do not believe in a God or gods. If one believes in a God or gods, then they are a theist.

4) The motivation is far less selfish to an atheist, because they must behave well if they are to remain respected in their community. There is no "reward" for doing good deeds, other than the possibility they will have them done for them as well.

5) Atheist belief about religious founders highly varies between people and cannot be generalized in any sense. I personally accept that they existed, or at least someone existed whom inspired the formation of the religion (not necessarily the person described in the texts), but the claims about them being divine, or have certain "powers" I find ridiculous. They may carry value for telling a myth (as a moral tale) or inspiring a subconscious state of mind but they carry no historical merit.

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#11 XaosII
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1: Atheism and evolution have nothing to do with each other. Most atheists believe in evolution, but so do many theists.

2: Depends on the person. In the most technical sense, anyone that believes in a god-like being is showing schizophrenic symptoms. You can still respect a person without having to respect their belief.

3: Atheism is the belief in no god. It has nothing to do with the afterlife. Buddhism is an Atheistic religion where the afterlife is probably the most important aspect. The more "scientific" atheists simply believe there is no afterlife.

4: Because they can. The fact that their good deeds are self motivated instead of guided by fear of punishment, that show purity in intent.

5: Prophets are people who just suffer even more strongly from schizophrenia. Of course they existed, like Jesus Christ. They were just absolutely wrong. Especially considering nearly every religion has had multiple prophets. All of them can't be right.

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well you're not going to find many consistent answers to those questions since atheism has no set beliefs other than the lack of a belief in a god. everyone has different views. but I suppose I'll give mine:

1: yes, I believe we evolved from primates. I wouldn't say we're a evolved version, as we are our own species, and "evolved version" implies we are still monkeys.

2: no, I respect a theist's beliefs.

3: I personally just don't think about it much. I prefer to let it be a surprise when i die.

4: It's not about being rewarded or getting into heaven / avoiding hell. It's just about being a good person. I don't need to be bribed to be kind. So I suppose there is no real motivation; It's just being who you are.

5: Yes, I believe prophets were actual people.

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#13 Memberino
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

There are no atheist beliefs. Atheism is not believing in a god, nothing more

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This^

I would say that's wrong, atheism is the belief that there is no God.
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#14 metroidfood
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1. Do atheists really think we humans are evolved version of monkeys? and if not, what do they think about the creation of the very first human? ( I don't say the universe to prevent making things complicated. so only answer about the creation of the first human )

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Humans and other apes are species that all share a common genetic ancestor. To say we "evolved" from monkeys is not entirely accurate, as evolution is not a linear process but rather a diversification of existing populations into new species, sort of like a branching tree.

Also, as others pointed out evolution and atheism are not tied together. While atheists are more likely to subscribe to evolution, someone can believe in one but not the other and vice versa.

2. Do atheists consider theists as some kind of retard or they have respect for them in the heart?

Sign-Number-Two

Depends on the atheist in question. There is a fair number of militant atheists that detest religion and want to see it eradicated. However, atheism is not a formal group but rather a label over otherwise unassociated individuals who share a common belief (or lack of one to be technical). Personally, I see religion as something entirely natural and important to many humans, and I don't see it as an impairment on human intelligence. It is often an excuse for ignorance, but if those same people didn't have religion they'd simply use something else to justify their lack of knowldege.

3. Do atheist believe in no God and afterlife or they just don't believe in them the way theists do?

Sign-Number-Two

Depends on the atheist. Buddhism is an atheistic religion, and their beliefs are likely very different than those atheists you'd find on these forums.

4. What is an atheist's motivation to do good deeds?

Sign-Number-Two

Generally human nature. Sometimes you don't need external motivation to help someone. If someone dropped their pencil and you picked it up, were you thinking of how this would secure your place in heaven? Likely not, you probably did the action not for any specific reward but just to help someone out.

5. Do atheist believe in the existence of prophets? I mean do atheists think Jesus Christ existed, but was a liar or they believe there was no such person at all?

Sign-Number-Two

Some people debate the historical existence of Jesus, but I think most people (atheist or not) believe that someone named Jesus Christ did in fact exist in history, regardless of whether or not they think he is the Son of God.

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#15 foxhound_fox
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I would say that's wrong, atheism is the belief that there is no God.Memberino

No. That is strong, or gnostic atheism. An affirmative claim.

Atheism in the most general sense is a lack of belief in any God or gods. "a-theos" means "without god" or "without belief in god" whether affirmative claim or lack of belief due to lack of evidence.

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#16 Darthmatt
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Atheism, its about accepting the truth, not believing in it.

I don't care to answer the other questions, but LMAO at #4.

Just because a person exists without the dogma of religion in their head, it doesn't mean they are going to start jumping around like a primitive murdering people. I am one of the least religious people I know, but also one of the most peacful and passive people you would ever meet. My motivation is to too good to others as I would expect unto myself, and avoid all forms of negative confrontations.

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#17 SirWander
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I'm not going to answer those questions. But I will tell you that there is no system of beliefs nor moral standards nor any prerequisites to be an atheist except for one. It's quite simple: Don't believe in the existence of deity(ies).

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#18 PirateSatan
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Atheist have a lack of believe in a god. That is all. The opinions on all of your questions change from person to person. We are not some organised group that all thinks the same. We are not a cult like religion
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1. Do atheists really think we humans are evolved version of monkeys? and if not, what do they think about the creation of the very first human? ( I don't say the universe to prevent making things complicated. so only answer about the creation of the first human )

2. Do atheists consider theists as some kind of retard or they have respect for them in the heart?

3. Do atheist believe in no God and afterlife or they just don't believe in them the way theists do?

4. What is an atheist's motivation to do good deeds?

5. Do atheist believe in the existence of prophets? I mean do atheists think Jesus Christ existed, but was a liar or they believe there was no such person at all?

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1. I think Evolution is the way we've come to be what we are now. We can see it happening on a smaller scale in other species, and we're likely to be no different.

2. No. If someone wishes to believe in religion, I'm fine with that. All religions do have a handful of people that are a bit...odd, though (and it's usually that fringe that causes all the problems).

3. Once you've popped your clogs, it's game over. To my mind, an afterlife is just a way to make the rest of us feel better - death is probably the biggest fear there is since it's inevitible.

4. To do them to help people. If you do something good for someone, both you and they will benefit.

5. Most major religious figures probably existed. There's good evidence of Jesus Christ, and the Prophet Mohammed definitely existed, for example. They weren't lying, but like so much in centuries past, things we couldn't explain were put down to gods or magic. Religion is a reasonable creation in ages past in an attempt to explain the world around us.

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A lot of people refect evolution because they can't comprehend it happening.

Just because you don't know how something works shouldn't mean you automatically say 'God did it'.

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1. No, we evolved from a common point: Primates. However they went their way, and us as Homo Sapiens went our own. 2. I consider fanatics to be insane, but just them. 3. No and no. 4. To help humans being. 5. No. Maybe someone like Jesus existed, but he was probably insane.
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I know I can find the answer for most of these questions by simply searching the net, but I don't want to read long text walls or visiting numerous websites and also I want to know about different opinions ,so I decided to ask them here:

1. Do atheists really think we humans are evolved version of monkeys? and if not, what do they think about the creation of the very first human? ( I don't say the universe to prevent making things complicated. so only answer about the creation of the first human )

2. Do atheists consider theists as some kind of retard or they have respect for them in the heart?

3. Do atheist believe in no God and afterlife or they just don't believe in them the way theists do?

4. What is an atheist's motivation to do good deeds?

5. Do atheist believe in the existence of prophets? I mean do atheists think Jesus Christ existed, but was a liar or they believe there was no such person at all?

I think that's enough for now.and also if you only want to answer only one of these questions, feel free to do it. It's not necessary to answer all of them at once.

Thanks in advance.

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1. Yes. There was no "very first human," as breeding and genetics did their thing we slowly stopped resembling apes and over time evolved the features we now refer to as human.

2. Yes and no. There are some aspects of religion I don't respect at all and never will. This whole thing with John Paul is a great example, the fact that people today still believe in miracles I think is patently ridiculous. I can understand how people can modify their faith to suit new scientific discoveries, but I don't know how people can retain a form of religious belief that so obviously resembles arcane superstition. I also have little respect for indoctrination, and I feel that many of the religious people I meet outright refuse to adress the adverse effects that religion might cause. I don't feel that these effects are endemic to religion, I just feel that when they manifest, and they do manifest often, that people feel that if they adress them at all they will lose their entire faith or something. Overall, I respect faith as something deeply personal and that can be used for tremendous good, though I feel that for many their relationship with faith is more dogmatic than personal and that religion is also constantly used for tremendous harm.

3. I do not believe in a creator being, though I am an agnostic atheist so I am open to the possibility of one should the evidence be presented. As to the afterlife, my current belief is leaning towards a sort of scientific pantheism. Matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed, so I, as in the matter and energy that comprise my physical being, will always exist. Consciousness, however, is another thing. I'm more agnostic to that, given the lack of ability to know beyond death there cannot be any conclusive evidence of what happens after death. The most likely scenario is nothing, consciousness ceases to exist, since we can correlate brain waves with consciousness and brain waves cease after death, the logical conclusion is that so does consciousness. I've recently been contemplating the nature of consciousness, and I was exploring the possibility of if consciousness ever ceases to exist. Since consciousness is self-awareness, would my consciousness always exist as the period in which I was self-aware? When they say that life flashes before your eyes when you die, would I even know when I die? Would my consciousness be stuck in a sort of limbo where my life replayed itself over and over? Or perhaps, given that my matter and energy would exist after I'm dead, would my "essence" exist as part of someone else? Maybe reincarnation is right after all, what if I ended up being someone or something else and not knowing it? Anyways, I find the whole issue interesting to contemplate, but ultimately quite irrelevant given that no concrete knowledge can be gained at all and all we can do is speculate, and given that in the end whatever happens will happen regardless.

4. Well, good is subjective. Personally, I think the one law of universal value is rarity. My life is rare in the long run, I should make the most of it. I do that by preserving what is rare for everyone else, by trying to get the best out of what we have, by trying to leave a good foundation for the people who come after me. I also believe in karma to a degree, doing good helps one live a good life, helps one make the most of the limited time they have, and is ultimately more rewarding than doing bad.

5. I think Jesus was someone who believed deeply in Judaistic principles, but saw that they had deteriorated over time. In an attempt to reinvigorate such principles, he used an ancient prophecy that most people probably didn't take very seriously anymore to start a religious revival. He was a liar in that he wasn't the son of god, and I don't think he thought he was the son of god, but I don't really think he was a bad person. I adhere to the explanation that John Stuart Mill gave about faith, that when Judaism was in its infancy people really believed in its principles. However, when they made such principles into societal rules the people they handed them down to didn't understand them in the same sense as the original disciples, and over time the principles broke down and were misused. Enter Jesus, where he and his disciples properly understood his teachings. After their deaths, however, the same principles repeated themselves. This happened again with the Reformation and the various Protestant movements like Calvin and Luther, and again over time the beliefs deteriorated from the purity of their form as practiced by their founders. So to answer your question, I think Jesus and his followers were pure in their intentions, but naive in thinking that their teachings would inspire such pure intentions after their deaths.

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There are no atheist beliefs. Atheism is not believing in a god, nothing more

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Hell, if I never knew what atheism meant, I'd call it a religion of not having a religion. But yeah, ^this.

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[QUOTE="Sign-Number-Two"]

I know I can find the answer for most of these questions by simply searching the net, but I don't want to read long text walls or visiting numerous websites and also I want to know about different opinions ,so I decided to ask them here:

1. Do atheists really think we humans are evolved version of monkeys? and if not, what do they think about the creation of the very first human? ( I don't say the universe to prevent making things complicated. so only answer about the creation of the first human )

2. Do atheists consider theists as some kind of retard or they have respect for them in the heart?

3. Do atheist believe in no God and afterlife or they just don't believe in them the way theists do?

4. What is an atheist's motivation to do good deeds?

5. Do atheist believe in the existence of prophets? I mean do atheists think Jesus Christ existed, but was a liar or they believe there was no such person at all?

I think that's enough for now.and also if you only want to answer only one of these questions, feel free to do it. It's not necessary to answer all of them at once.

Thanks in advance.

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i havent done my atheist questionnaire in a while: 1) i understand evolution 2) it depends entirely on the theist 3) i dont believe in any god or afterlife. its lights out. 4) it feels good helping people. it doesnt feel good hurting people. 5) jesus probably existed. he just wasnt superman.

i would go with these answers
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#25 theone86
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There are no atheist beliefs. Atheism is not believing in a god, nothing more

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Atheism goes beyond our current level of objective knowledge, you're making a supposition that cannot be proven. Granted, that may be the logical supposition, but it's a supposition nonetheless. I'm reminded of something Descartes said in Meditations, how does he know that all the people walking on the street aren't automotons? They look like people, they act like people, and the most logical conclusion is that they are people, but you don't know that for sure.

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1. Do atheists really think we humans are evolved version of monkeys? and if not, what do they think about the creation of the very first human? ( I don't say the universe to prevent making things complicated. so only answer about the creation of the first human )

2. Do atheists consider theists as some kind of retard or they have respect for them in the heart?

3. Do atheist believe in no God and afterlife or they just don't believe in them the way theists do?

4. What is an atheist's motivation to do good deeds?

5. Do atheist believe in the existence of prophets? I mean do atheists think Jesus Christ existed, but was a liar or they believe there was no such person at all?

Sign-Number-Two

1. Yes, I think humans evolved from somewhere.

2. lol no, I do not consider the religious folks out there retards. Just brainwashed, to an extent, maybe misguided; the only real reason they believe in their faith is because they were told to from a young age (unless they are born again). Either way, they believe in their faith through no fault of their own.

3. I do not believe in an afterlife or a God because I see no reason, nor evidence, to believe in it. Its not that I dont believe in God because I dont want to, its just I dont really see a point in believing in something that isnt real.

4, I am a humanist. I think most atheists are. That means that while my faith is not in a higher power, my faith can be elsewhere. In this case, my faith is in humanity. I believe humanity are the "gods" of the world, and we are apretty damn good thing. Because of this, and the fact that these few decades of existence we get are so short, that is my motivation to do good deeds. At the risk of sounding self-righteous, I think atheists are more prone to small acts of goodness than religious folk specifically because of this reason. We realize we only get one shot, we might as well make it the best we can. How many wars and murders and crimes have been commited due to religion? A lot. And how many due to atheism? None, maybe?

5. I dont. I mean, I believe they existed, but I do not believe they were prophets. Smart men maybe, and powerful leaders...but not prophets. A lot of the stories in the Bible are grounded in fact and real people (the Bible is a collection of stories from all over), but have been so exagerated it might as well be a collection of fairy tales.

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#27 bededog
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Atheism is not a religion. The only thing you need to have to be an atheist is the lack of a believe in any form of deities. So for your questions none of them can be answered for the whole population of atheists because they will differ between individual atheists. I can answer for my own personal beliefs though: 1. The evidence indicates that evolution is true and that humans share a common ancestor with other apes (we still our apes). 2. This is depend on the individual theist. I think they are wrong and are deluding themselves but that doesn't make them stupid. 3. I don't believe in any form of deities, including the Christian idea of God. I also do not believe in an afterlife. 4. I subscribe to a form of consequentialism. My motivation is to best promote the well being of myself and others. I don't need a god to force me to be good. 5. There may have been a person called Jesus but the miraculous things accredited to him are false. This is not necessarily saying that the people who wrote the Bible wrote it out of whole cloth though.
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#28 HellsAngel2c
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1) A lot of people just don't 'get' evolution. We're not an 'evolved form' of monkey- Monkey's are not striving to become human, nor are we related to them in a straight line. We have a common ancestor primate- a primate which is long since dead now. Here's an example: take the lemurs in Madagascar. Every species of Lemur on that island is evolved from a very early primate (earlier than the ones we are evolved from, based on the dog-like face), but every species is vastly different from one another, each living in different ways, eating different foods, making different sounds, etc.

2) It depends on the extremities. Ultra-orthodox of any religion is something I can't wrap my head around, but a lot of the time they don't socialize with the wider population, so meh. But with the majority of theists, I will judge you on your personality, not on your faith. If you are a retard it's because of YOU, not that you believe in god.

3) For me, there is most definitely, certainly, no afterlife. Once you are dead, you are gone.

4) To be a good person. I'm sorry, but if you need RELIGION to tell you to do humane things and act like a decent person, then you are completely misguided.

5) They MAY have existed.... or are just figments of imagination. Either way, they are/or are linked to powerful men who feared losing the people, so instilling fear in the guise of unquestionable law and order that suited.

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1. Do atheists really think we humans are evolved version of monkeys? and if not, what do they think about the creation of the very first human? ( I don't say the universe to prevent making things complicated. so only answer about the creation of the first human )

Atheism is simply the rejection in a belief of the existence of deities. It implies nothing about their thoughts about evolution, although from my observations the average atheist is more likely to believe in things with significant scientific backing (e.g. evolution) than in fairy tales written by fellow humans.

2. Do atheists consider theists as some kind of retard or they have respect for them in the heart?

It depends on the theist. Some follow religion for its teachings on morality, and do not necessarily seriously believe there is a God. Others, however, believe that there is a God that is watching them all the time, that Jesus walked on water, that Moses moved the seas, and that Obama the Antichrist will go mad in 2012. These people are either retarded to some degree or insane, in my opinion (and possibly the opinion of many).

3. Do atheist believe in no God and afterlife or they just don't believe in them the way theists do?

See my answer to #1.

4. What is an atheist's motivation to do good deeds?

I think that if an atheist is motivated to do good deeds, it is not driven by fear of punishment from sinning, but usually by naturally moral behavior. In that sense, a moral atheist is possibly a better human than a moral religious person.

5. Do atheist believe in the existence of prophets? I mean do atheists think Jesus Christ existed, but was a liar or they believe there was no such person at all?

Some atheists think Jesus Christ was just a figure made up by the authors of the Bible, but there is historical evidence to suggest that he existed. However, there is no strong historical evidence suggesting that he could walk on water or turn blood into wine. These were possibly fabricated.

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Atheism is not an organized religion. There is no standard belief system other than the belief in no god. Various atheists will give you various answers to those questions.

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#32 ilikedrit
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[QUOTE="Sign-Number-Two"]2. Do atheists consider theists as some kind of retard or they have respect for them in the heart?mrbojangles25
2. lol no, I do not consider the religious folks out there retards. Just brainwashed, to an extent, maybe misguided; the only real reason they believe in their faith is because they were told to from a young age (unless they are born again). Either way, they believe in their faith through no fault of their own.

Being told to believe in a faith from a young age, or teaching religion to someone of young age, does not force them to believe in it. My dad is a Christian, and he used to take me to Church and "CCD" (part-time religious school that occurred once a week), but like many atheists, I decided for myself long before the age of 10 that this religion in general was a bunch of BS, particularly due to the severe lack of evidence for certain premises. Anyone who actually pays attention to the world instead of listening to what others tell them should have minimal trouble deciding their own beliefs, regardless of whether religion was forced upon them or not. There is evidence to suggest that the average atheist has a higher IQ than the average religious person. Take what you will from it, but personally I think that IQ is correlated with intelligence, and intelligence with one's own capability of analyzing the world efficiently and making independent decisions based on such an analysis, which may translate into a greater likelihood to escape forced religion.
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#33 TINYOWNSYOU
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I know I can find the answer for most of these questions by simply searching the net, but I don't want to read long text walls or visiting numerous websites and also I want to know about different opinions ,so I decided to ask them here:

1. Do atheists really think we humans are evolved version of monkeys? and if not, what do they think about the creation of the very first human? ( I don't say the universe to prevent making things complicated. so only answer about the creation of the first human )

2. Do atheists consider theists as some kind of retard or they have respect for them in the heart?

3. Do atheist believe in no God and afterlife or they just don't believe in them the way theists do?

4. What is an atheist's motivation to do good deeds?

5. Do atheist believe in the existence of prophets? I mean do atheists think Jesus Christ existed, but was a liar or they believe there was no such person at all?

I think that's enough for now.and also if you only want to answer only one of these questions, feel free to do it. It's not necessary to answer all of them at once.

Thanks in advance.

Sign-Number-Two

Well, I can't answer for everyone, but in my view...

1. Well, I guess so. I really believe more in the evolution from cavemen, but I 'spose they started as monkeys.

2. Just because somebody doesn't believe in the same things that I do, it doesn't make them dumb. Each to their own, right?

3. It varies from person to person. I personally don't believe in either of those.

4. All the motivation I need is to be a good person.

5. It again varies. I think some of them did exist, but maybe their abilities were exaggerated.

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#34 curono
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1. YES, but not necessarily. You can both be an atheist and not believe in evolution, one does not imply the other. A friend of mine thinks that an alien race made humans. As for Me, I do believe on evolutionist theories.

2. I do respect theist people. My mother is religious and my grandparents and many uncles. I think it is a belief that makes their wold more bearable. If it helps them, go for it. Not that it would make their belief something real :P

3. No god at all, no afterlife plane. Thats it. We die, game over.

4. There is a phrase which I like a lot "Virtue is its own reward". Being a good guy a does not require a moral police behind you. I am good because I have moral principles and I want to make this a better world while I am on it.

5. I do not believe in prophets or fortune tellers or anything of the such. Any of those guys always make a broad and vague statement and people start filling the holes and placing themselves on it. Prophets arent real

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I know I can find the answer for most of these questions by simply searching the net, but I don't want to read long text walls or visiting numerous websites and also I want to know about different opinions ,so I decided to ask them here:

1. Do atheists really think we humans are evolved version of monkeys? and if not, what do they think about the creation of the very first human? ( I don't say the universe to prevent making things complicated. so only answer about the creation of the first human )

2. Do atheists consider theists as some kind of retard or they have respect for them in the heart?

3. Do atheist believe in no God and afterlife or they just don't believe in them the way theists do?

4. What is an atheist's motivation to do good deeds?

5. Do atheist believe in the existence of prophets? I mean do atheists think Jesus Christ existed, but was a liar or they believe there was no such person at all?

I think that's enough for now.and also if you only want to answer only one of these questions, feel free to do it. It's not necessary to answer all of them at once.

Thanks in advance.

Sign-Number-Two

1) Yeah, and so should you. Most theists also believe in evolution. Or, at least, theists in an educated country. Evolution is essentially fact, and if you deny it, then you are just completely ignorant.

2) Only if they don't believe in evolution. Why would I hate theists? I respect what anyone wants to believe.

3) No, atheists don't believe in God. What part of the atheism don't you understand? As for an afterlife, no. You die, and you die. That's it. Your biological processes stop working, and you cease to exist. Maybe there is a dream like state created in the mind for a bit after you are dead, but not for too long.

4) Because they are good deeds? What other reasoning do you need? I do what I want because it is good to do it, not because I am scared I will spend eternity burning in hell if I don't.

5) Depends on the prophet. I believe Jesus existed. Especially since there is tons of evidence he existed. I don't believe in what he taught, but I wouldn't call him a liar. He taught what he believed, and as long as he didn't do it to manipulate others, I see nothing wrong with that.

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1. Do atheists really think we humans are evolved version of monkeys? and if not, what do they think about the creation of the very first human? ( I don't say the universe to prevent making things complicated. so only answer about the creation of the first human )

2. Do atheists consider theists as some kind of retard or they have respect for them in the heart?

3. Do atheist believe in no God and afterlife or they just don't believe in them the way theists do?

4. What is an atheist's motivation to do good deeds?

5. Do atheist believe in the existence of prophets? I mean do atheists think Jesus Christ existed, but was a liar or they believe there was no such person at all?

Sign-Number-Two

1. Perhaps some atheists do think that. It really depends on how broadly-defined the word "monkey" is. Aron Ra, a well-known atheist you can find on YouTube, has a broad enough conception of the category "monkey" that he includes humans in it. However, I do have to be careful here, because when you say "evolved version", you might be latching onto the incorrect idea that biological evolution is a ladder of sorts, and that something being "more evolved" also means that it's "better". This is not the case. Evolution tailors organisms to their environment, in the broadest sense of the latter term, and evolutionary history can be conceptualized as a tree with a gigantic number of branches, with currently existing species occupying the very tips of some of the branches. Also, for a person who does not believe in the existence of deities, the idea that humans are creations makes no sense... unless said person thinks that aliens -- for which we have no good evidence -- created us and deposited us on Earth. However, then you could ask if the aliens were created. Somewhere, the creation must logically stop, though for an atheist, it does not stop at a deity.

2. Atheists are humans. One thing is true for some humans, while another thing is true of others. An "us versus them" mentality is poisonous to peace and respectful dialogue. Just consider atheists to be fellow humans.

3. Atheists are, by definition, people who either believe that there are no gods, or people who have not made up their minds (gnosticism and agnosticism are separate issues, but people tend to misuse the terms). The existence of an afterlife is not confined to belief systems containing gods, so atheists can still believe in an afterlife. However, I know of none that do. At least in the U.S. of late, atheism is and has been connected with science. Scientific methodology, if followed, and if we throw in all that we know about the world (including ourselves), makes belief in an afterlife unjustified. So I am inclined to say that the more rational an atheist is about their beliefs, the less likely they are to believe in an afterlife.

4. Have you ever intentionally done a good deed prior to which the afterlife didn't figure into your thoughts? I bet you have. Indeed, I bet most of your good deeds have been done under such a condition. Well, the same is the case for atheists who don't believe in an afterlife.

5. I am indifferent to the idea that there may have been a real person upon whom the myth of the Christ is based. The only things I definitely don't believe are the claims that people can do things we would refer to as "magic". Insofar as the existence of a prophet implies that gods and supernatural forces exist, I believe that there are no prophets. You might get a different answer from atheists who merely haven't made up their minds.

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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"][QUOTE="Sign-Number-Two"]2. Do atheists consider theists as some kind of retard or they have respect for them in the heart?ilikedrit
2. lol no, I do not consider the religious folks out there retards. Just brainwashed, to an extent, maybe misguided; the only real reason they believe in their faith is because they were told to from a young age (unless they are born again). Either way, they believe in their faith through no fault of their own.

Being told to believe in a faith from a young age, or teaching religion to someone of young age, does not force them to believe in it. My dad is a Christian, and he used to take me to Church and "CCD" (part-time religious school that occurred once a week), but like many atheists, I decided for myself long before the age of 10 that this religion in general was a bunch of BS, particularly due to the severe lack of evidence for certain premises. Anyone who actually pays attention to the world instead of listening to what others tell them should have minimal trouble deciding their own beliefs, regardless of whether religion was forced upon them or not. There is evidence to suggest that the average atheist has a higher IQ than the average religious person. Take what you will from it, but personally I think that IQ is correlated with intelligence, and intelligence with one's own capability of analyzing the world efficiently and making independent decisions based on such an analysis, which may translate into a greater likelihood to escape forced religion.

I don't know. I think a lot of people are forced into believing in religion. I was also brought up a Christian, although my parents really were not strong theists. We only went to church on Sundays. We are all atheists now. I didn't have any problems questioning what I was being taught, and neither did you, but that is certainly not the case everywhere. I live in the Bible Belt, and if someone has devout religious parents, then they are quite frankly forced to be religious. They aren't allowed to speak out and question it. They have to follow what their parents are doing. And this is in America. I can't imagine what it is like in some places, especially the Middle East. People don't have free choice everywhere. And the IQ is something that I have been wondering about for a long time. A lot of today's brightest scientists are not theists. There is information that points to some of the famous scientists from history being "closet atheists" (they often couldn't speak out against religion). My opinion is that religion is a way for people to understand the natural world better. The ancient Greeks didn't know how lightning was created, so they created a god to explain it. Early Christians didn't know how the world was created, so they created a god to explain it. As science progresses so that natural processes can be explained, there is no need to have a supernatural explanation for them.
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1: Atheism and evolution have nothing to do with each other. Most atheists believe in evolution, but so do many theists.

2: Depends on the person. In the most technical sense, anyone that believes in a god-like being is showing schizophrenic symptoms. You can still respect a person without having to respect their belief.

3: Atheism is the belief in no god. It has nothing to do with the afterlife. Buddhism is an Atheistic religion where the afterlife is probably the most important aspect. The more "scientific" atheists simply believe there is no afterlife.

4: Because they can. The fact that their good deeds are self motivated instead of guided by fear of punishment, that show purity in intent.

5: Prophets are people who just suffer even more strongly from schizophrenia. Of course they existed, like Jesus Christ. They were just absolutely wrong. Especially considering nearly every religion has had multiple prophets. All of them can't be right.

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I think I might be offended by your answers...

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#39 Serraph105
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as a thiest I believe in evolution and yes humans from apes are included in that belief.

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1: Atheism and evolution have nothing to do with each other. Most atheists believe in evolution, but so do many theists.

2: Depends on the person. In the most technical sense, anyone that believes in a god-like being is showing schizophrenic symptoms. You can still respect a person without having to respect their belief.

3: Atheism is the belief in no god. It has nothing to do with the afterlife. Buddhism is an Atheistic religion where the afterlife is probably the most important aspect. The more "scientific" atheists simply believe there is no afterlife.

4: Because they can. The fact that their good deeds are self motivated instead of guided by fear of punishment, that show purity in intent.

5: Prophets are people who just suffer even more strongly from schizophrenia. Of course they existed, like Jesus Christ. They were just absolutely wrong. Especially considering nearly every religion has had multiple prophets. All of them can't be right.

XaosII

Ah, I'm glad we have someone who has gone into the past and knows weather these people were right or wrong. :roll:

And really, if your gonna go around calling people who believe in a God schizophrenic, please just keep it to yourself because you come off as pretentious.

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#42 XaosII
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I think I might be offended by your answers...

jeremiah06

Being offended by the truth is probably a big reason people turn to theism.

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#43 cybrcatter
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I think I might be offended by your answers...

jeremiah06

If you take offense to anything posted in an internet forum, then I'm afraid I have some bad news: you're going to have a long, hard, disappointing life.

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#45 XileLord
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Atheism is the lack of belief in a god, no more.

It is also the default position

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#46 jeremiah06
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[QUOTE="jeremiah06"]

I think I might be offended by your answers...

cybrcatter

If you take offense to anything posted in an internet forum, then I'm afraid I have some bad news: you're going to have a long, hard, disappointing life.

I'm not naive... I've used the internet for longer than some people who post here have existed... When I say offended I don't mean it in the traditional sense... I'm just saying I don't like some of his word choices...
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#47 jeremiah06
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[QUOTE="XaosII"]

1: Atheism and evolution have nothing to do with each other. Most atheists believe in evolution, but so do many theists.

2: Depends on the person. In the most technical sense, anyone that believes in a god-like being is showing schizophrenic symptoms. You can still respect a person without having to respect their belief.

3: Atheism is the belief in no god. It has nothing to do with the afterlife. Buddhism is an Atheistic religion where the afterlife is probably the most important aspect. The more "scientific" atheists simply believe there is no afterlife.

4: Because they can. The fact that their good deeds are self motivated instead of guided by fear of punishment, that show purity in intent.

5: Prophets are people who just suffer even more strongly from schizophrenia. Of course they existed, like Jesus Christ. They were just absolutely wrong. Especially considering nearly every religion has had multiple prophets. All of them can't be right.

Hatiko

Ah, I'm glad we have someone who has gone into the past and knows weather these people were right or wrong. :roll:

And really, if your gonna go around calling people who believe in a God schizophrenic, please just keep it to yourself because you come off as pretentious.

Closer to what I was trying to say...

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Only thing I hate about the Atheists I know is that they curse God and all that crap, but they worship the devil/Satan. And they do not believe in God.

Like , your atheist, you do not believe in the devil according to you.

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#49 jeremiah06
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Only thing I hate about the Atheists I know is that they curse God and all that crap, but they worship the devil/Satan. And they do not believe in God.

Like , your atheist, you do not believe in the devil according to you.

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Those aren't Atheist... Those are Satanist...
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#50 TINYOWNSYOU
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Only thing I hate about the Atheists I know is that they curse God and all that crap, but they worship the devil/Satan. And they do not believe in God.

Like , your atheist, you do not believe in the devil according to you.

Snakemaster9

Lol, you're saying that Atheists worship the devil?!