I have new evidence for all the God skeptics in this forum...

I wonder what the mechanism for getting people to send them money is.StopThePresses

Look no further.

Basically he sends you the packet and then he spams the hell out of your mailbox begging for donations.

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"]I wonder what the mechanism for getting people to send them money is.GabuEx

Look no further.

Basically he sends you the packet and then he spams the hell out of your mailbox begging for donations.

That is just pathetic...Religious scams are scary..How people could even donate that much to an idiot..

I hope I'm not the only one who clicked the link, and when I saw the youtube logo, I thought "oh hell rickroll".

I went into a state of deep depression after i read that Popoff's company at one point had raised more than 23 million dollars.

People. Are. IDIOTS.

I went into a state of deep depression after i read that Popoff's company at one point had raised more than 23 million dollars.

People. Are. IDIOTS.

Joshywaa

Not only $23 million, but $23 million after he had already been exposed as a fraud.

Seriously.

Hmm I wonder what this "miracle water" actually is...

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

That was obviously a joke..

StopThePresses

Google has all the answers. Poe's Law*strikes again.

*close enough

Wow, that's pretty sad..

Can anyone who studies human intelligent explain to me how is this remotely possible to have that many stupid people?

Can anyone who studies human intelligent explain to me how is this remotely possible to have that many stupid people?

alexside1

Can anyone who studies human intelligent explain to me how is this remotely possible to have that many stupid people?

alexside1

read history? Its filled with people being duped into believing certain things.. How else do you think the Catholic Church got into power, or any major church organization? Or how the Crusades were conducted for example?

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

Can anyone who studies human intelligent explain to me how is this remotely possible to have that many stupid people?

Richymisiak

Not sure what you mean by that, if anything people throughout the world are far more educated then they were hundreds of years back..

[QUOTE="Richymisiak"][QUOTE="alexside1"]

Can anyone who studies human intelligent explain to me how is this remotely possible to have that many stupid people?

sSubZerOo

Not sure what you mean by that, if anything people throughout the world are far more educated then they were hundreds of years back..

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

Can anyone who studies human intelligent explain to me how is this remotely possible to have that many stupid people?

sSubZerOo

read history? Its filled with people being duped into believing certain things.. How else do you think the Catholic Church got into power, or any major church organization? Or how the Crusades were conducted for example?

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Richymisiak"] natural selection no longer exists these daysRichymisiak

Not sure what you mean by that, if anything people throughout the world are far more educated then they were hundreds of years back..

Yet again, your going to have to prove that.. The strongest and fastest as history has shown do not always prosper... You think the nobility of history were there because they were superior from every one else? Far from it..

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

Can anyone who studies human intelligent explain to me how is this remotely possible to have that many stupid people?

sSubZerOo

read history? Its filled with people being duped into believing certain things.. How else do you think the Catholic Church got into power, or any major church organization? Or how the Crusades were conducted for example?

The reason for the crusades was a war between Christians and Moslems which centered around the city of Jerusalem. The City of Jerusalem held a Holy significance to the Christian religion. The Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem commemorated the hill of crucifixion and the tomb of Christ's burial and was visited by Pilgrims. In 1065 Jerusalem was taken by the Turks and 3000 Christians were massacred starting a chain of events which contributed to the cause of the crusades.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

Can anyone who studies human intelligent explain to me how is this remotely possible to have that many stupid people?

alexside1

read history? Its filled with people being duped into believing certain things.. How else do you think the Catholic Church got into power, or any major church organization? Or how the Crusades were conducted for example?

.................. What good is the printing press if no one can read? You seem to forget, literacy was something a select few people had.. The peasentry did not have the time, funds or schooling to ever learn to read.. And if you practiced differently, lets go see.. Oh thats right they would kill you.. Organizations that are dictorial in nature thrive on ignorance and propaganda..

You know what? Screw science, I'm going into the wrong career. I'm going to start up my own church, sell people $20 bottled water, and convince them to send me their life savings in the name of God.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

Can anyone who studies human intelligent explain to me how is this remotely possible to have that many stupid people?

Xx_Hopeless_xX

read history? Its filled with people being duped into believing certain things.. How else do you think the Catholic Church got into power, or any major church organization? Or how the Crusades were conducted for example?

The reason for the crusades was a war between Christians and Moslems which centered around the city of Jerusalem. The City of Jerusalem held a Holy significance to the Christian religion. The Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem commemorated the hill of crucifixion and the tomb of Christ's burial and was visited by Pilgrims. In 1065 Jerusalem was taken by the Turks and 3000 Christians were massacred starting a chain of events which contributed to the cause of the crusades.

..... Where did I say people who are Christian or what not were all stupid? This doesn't some how change the fact that people will be duped in by ignorance.. Do you honestly think they did it in retailiation the crusaders? They were told by the Pope that killing a heretic was the path to heaven and that this was god's command.. Christians or any amount of faith or ideas all have these problems.. It just doesn't have to stop with religion, hell the red scare of the 1950s were evidence of this.. As it stands there will always be people getting dupped by another intil the end of time.

[QUOTE="Richymisiak"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Not sure what you mean by that, if anything people throughout the world are far more educated then they were hundreds of years back..

sSubZerOo

Yet again, your going to have to prove that.. The strongest and fastest as history has shown do not always prosper... You think the nobility of history were there because they were superior from every one else? Far from it..

[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

read history? Its filled with people being duped into believing certain things.. How else do you think the Catholic Church got into power, or any major church organization? Or how the Crusades were conducted for example?

sSubZerOo

.................. What good is the printing press if no one can read? You seem to forget, literacy was something a select few people had.. The peasentry did not have the time, funds or schooling to ever learn to read..

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Richymisiak"] life is 'easier' now, you don't have to have any qualities that would ensure survival thousands of years ago in order to survive long enough to pass on genesRichymisiak

Yet again, your going to have to prove that.. The strongest and fastest as history has shown do not always prosper... You think the nobility of history were there because they were superior from every one else? Far from it..

......So you are suggesting tribes then? Because thats really the only other form before that outside of a few supposed democratic institutions like Athens.. (though it can be argued they had similar problems with feudalism..).. And who is the leaders of the tribes? The chief or holy person there..

[QUOTE="Richymisiak"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Yet again, your going to have to prove that.. The strongest and fastest as history has shown do not always prosper... You think the nobility of history were there because they were superior from every one else? Far from it..

sSubZerOo

......So you are suggesting tribes then? Because thats really the only other form before that outside of a few supposed democratic institutions like Athens.. (though it can be argued they had similar problems with feudalism..).. And who is the leaders of the tribes? The chief or holy person there..

I'm not talking about who becomes the leader, i'm talking about who survives.back when we were just hunters, the ones who would buy magic water thinking it would make them rich would not have survived

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"] You forgot that the crusades happen before the invention of the printing press and the catholic church back in those days is the authority on the interpenetration ( which they can interpret whatever they wanted to.) I want a scientific answer, not a historic one.alexside1

.................. What good is the printing press if no one can read? You seem to forget, literacy was something a select few people had.. The peasentry did not have the time, funds or schooling to ever learn to read..

.. lets go see.. If there was opposition and you were a peasent.. You would be execommunicated and killed.. Furthermore why would you do such a thing? Becaus ethe printing press would be controlled by the church and nobility.. So if you could be reading you would be reading the things they want to print.. It was worse then because questions were not allowed and peasents basically fully believed what their clergymen and the church said.

:lol:

Oh Peter, it'll be so ironic when he burns in Hell.

The odd thing I find about this form of belief, is how people think God will provide them with material blessings and rewards if they maintain faith... despite the whole point of salvation, is to cement the eternal life of yourself and those around you.

[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

.................. What good is the printing press if no one can read? You seem to forget, literacy was something a select few people had.. The peasentry did not have the time, funds or schooling to ever learn to read..

sSubZerOo

.. lets go see.. If there was opposition and you were a peasent.. You would be execommunicated and killed.. Furthermore why would you do such a thing? Becaus ethe printing press would be controlled by the church and nobility.. So if you could be reading you would be reading the things they want to print.. It was worse then because questions were not allowed and peasents basically fully believed what their clergymen and the church said.

Can anyone who studies human intelligent explain to me how is this remotely possible to have that many stupid people?

to which you replied..

read history? Its filled with people being duped into believing certain things.. How else do you think the Catholic Church got into power, or any major church organization? Or how the Crusades were conducted for example?

sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"] Well that is one of the major reasons why there's hardly any opposition to the war effort that I can't deny. alexside1

.. lets go see.. If there was opposition and you were a peasent.. You would be execommunicated and killed.. Furthermore why would you do such a thing? Becaus ethe printing press would be controlled by the church and nobility.. So if you could be reading you would be reading the things they want to print.. It was worse then because questions were not allowed and peasents basically fully believed what their clergymen and the church said.

The point is, religions will usually always have the most dupes.. YET again this is not suggesting that religion is wrong, full of ignorant or stupid people yadayada.. But religion especially during those times pretty much was a belief that could not be questioned nor have any real thought outside of the status quo.. It is a article of faith, that all too often when it comes to organized religion it is decided by a select few elite in charge.. Especially during those times..

This is making me lose hope in humanity. Elian2530

Religion: Making humanity fall to new lows every day.kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Religion: Making humanity fall to new lows every day.Snipes_2

It's true though..And I'm pretty religious myself..

It's moreso the people who follow the religion though, but still. It has caused many problems and still continues to make problems for this world.

I hope you are prepared to believe in God because no amount of philosophical banter can deny this...

Miracle Spring Water...Now in a larger size!!!

Plzhelpmelearn

I would prefer some miracle hard liquor.

Zerocrossings

amen brother:)

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"] How far is the furthest Catholic church from where you live?theone86

Right, Catholicism only has 68 million followers in America and is the largest Christian denomination in the country, no way could that be considered remotely mainstream :roll:

If you set your position up as mutually exclusive then you will never be completely accepted. This country realizes a right for women to make their own moral decisions about abortion and for everyone else to make their own moral decisions about how they want to conduct their personal relationships. That's not a rejection of Catholicism, that's a belief in personal sovereignty.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]Religion: Making humanity fall to new lows every day.taj7575

It's true though..And I'm pretty religious myself..

It's moreso the people who follow the religion though, but still. It has caused many problems and still continues to make problems for this world.

How many of those are Practicing Catholics? And I wouldn't say it's mainstream in our societies culture. Like I pointed out in the other post. The Catholic Church believes Abortion is wrong, and it also believes those "Moral Choices" are wrong. The Church does not go by what Humans percieve as morally acceptable, it goes by Gods teachings and the path He set forth in regards to Morality.

Snipes_2

Lol. Peter Popoff. Sounds like a porno name.

DEVILinIRON

haha it does. Peter Popoff's day off lol :P

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Religion: Making humanity fall to new lows every day.Snipes_2

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I hope you're not serious. That's quite a broad Generalization too by the way. Snipes_2

It's true though..And I'm pretty religious myself..

It's moreso the people who follow the religion though, but still. It has caused many problems and still continues to make problems for this world.

It doesn't matter if a religion doesn't cause problems now. All religions, especially the Abrahamic religions have a dark time in history that has left a major impact still affecting us today.

There is no such things as a good religion without a bad past, maybe with the exception of some of the Eastern religions (confusianism, taoism, buddhism).

Look at all the foolish atheists trying to deny the magic water! I for one have already ordered 7 packets!

It doesn't matter if a religion doesn't cause problems now. All religions, especially the Abrahamic religions have a dark time in history that has left a major impact still affecting us today.

There is no such things as a good religion without a bad past, maybe with the exception of some of the Eastern religions (confusianism, taoism, buddhism).

taj7575

Look at all the foolish atheists trying to deny the magic water! I for one have already ordered 7 packets!

SgtKevali

I wonder if anybody just for the lulz has ordered like a million packets, seeing that they're free and that the only way he makes money off of them is through donations.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

How many of those are Practicing Catholics? And I wouldn't say it's mainstream in our societies culture. Like I pointed out in the other post. The Catholic Church believes Abortion is wrong, and it also believes those "Moral Choices" are wrong. The Church does not go by what Humans percieve as morally acceptable, it goes by Gods teachings and the path He set forth in regards to Morality.

Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

How many of those are Practicing Catholics? And I wouldn't say it's mainstream in our societies culture. Like I pointed out in the other post. The Catholic Church believes Abortion is wrong, and it also believes those "Moral Choices" are wrong. The Church does not go by what Humans percieve as morally acceptable, it goes by Gods teachings and the path He set forth in regards to Morality.

Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="taj7575"]

It's true though..And I'm pretty religious myself..

It's moreso the people who follow the religion though, but still. It has caused many problems and still continues to make problems for this world.

taj7575

It doesn't matter if a religion doesn't cause problems now. All religions, especially the Abrahamic religions have a dark time in history that has left a major impact still affecting us today.

There is no such things as a good religion without a bad past, maybe with the exception of some of the Eastern religions (confusianism, taoism, buddhism).

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]Religion: Making humanity fall to new lows every day.kuraimen