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#1 hagiiiiiiiiii
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I am interested in learning all sorts of religions, however i have few questions to christian people, please answer them intelligently.

What happened to the original bible sent by God? Why are there 4 Bibles each of the containing different information?
If there are 4 bibles which one is the original, also if there are 4 bibles, doesnt that mean it's not the word of God but rather of people who have changed it? Also that if there are 4 bibles left, doesnt this mean there were more bibles left b4 the 4?

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#2 muthsera666
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Shh! Silence! No questions! Just believe!

Anyway, I'm like you. I try to learn about as many different religions as I can. I don't have the answers for you. There are many questions I have about issues dealing with the Bible as well...

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#3 hagiiiiiiiiii
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Lol thanks for the answers.
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#4 PercivalCox
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4 Bibles? You mean the Gospels? Matthew, Mark, Luke and the book of John?
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Most Christians like me sadly aren't hardcore with our religion. We go to church, say the prayers, sing the songs, and leave. I know it's sad. So what I'm trying to say is I don't know. I didn't even know that there were 4 different bibles.
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#6 hagiiiiiiiiii
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I guess, i never knew they had different names too.
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I guess, i never knew they had different names too.hagiiiiiiiiii
Ohhhhhh there we go. That makes more sense. Ok I can answer that. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are all in the same bible. They wrote their own different experiences in the New Testament. They are all different books INSIDE the same Bible.
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The 4 books of the Gospel (Which means The Good News) Are the first 4 books of the New Testament (The part where Jesus comes into play). Each book was written from a different disciple that traveled with Jesus. So they differ a little because they are each man's perspective or account on what he saw. If you interviewed 4 different people about the same thing you'd get 4 different stories. Same thing goes for the 4 books of the Bible.
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The 4 books of the Gospel (Which means The Good News) Are the first 4 books of the New Testament (The part where Jesus comes into play). Each book was written from a different disciple that traveled with Jesus. So they differ a little because they are each man's perspective or account on what he saw. If you interviewed 4 different people about the same thing you'd get 4 different stories. Same thing goes for the 4 books of the Bible.PercivalCox
So the bible wasn't written by Jesus but rather 4 people?
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[QUOTE="PercivalCox"]The 4 books of the Gospel (Which means The Good News) Are the first 4 books of the New Testament (The part where Jesus comes into play). Each book was written from a different disciple that traveled with Jesus. So they differ a little because they are each man's perspective or account on what he saw. If you interviewed 4 different people about the same thing you'd get 4 different stories. Same thing goes for the 4 books of the Bible.hagiiiiiiiiii
So the bible wasn't written by Jesus but rather 4 people?

The bible was written by more than 4 people. I don't know how many but it was a LOT more than just 4 people. Those are just 4 small books of the bible that the disciples experience with Jesus. 
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[QUOTE="PercivalCox"]The 4 books of the Gospel (Which means The Good News) Are the first 4 books of the New Testament (The part where Jesus comes into play). Each book was written from a different disciple that traveled with Jesus. So they differ a little because they are each man's perspective or account on what he saw. If you interviewed 4 different people about the same thing you'd get 4 different stories. Same thing goes for the 4 books of the Bible.hagiiiiiiiiii
So the bible wasn't written by Jesus but rather 4 people?

No, Jesus never wrote anything down. The Gospels are basically his life story you could say. His biography.
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#12 hagiiiiiiiiii
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Also that what is the punishment for commiting a crime in Christianity? What are the rules for not getting yourself into sin? Also, what is allowed and what is dissallowed in Christianity in terms of food?
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#13 PercivalCox
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No Jesus never wrote it. Prophets wrote the different books of the Bible. Some were from what they saw and experienced. Some wrote what they were told by God in visions. But, Jesus never wrote a book in the Bible. He's just featured in it.
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I am interested in learning all sorts of religions, however i have few questions to christian people, please answer them intelligently.

What happened to the original bible sent by God? Why are there 4 Bibles each of the containing different information?
If there are 4 bibles which one is the original, also if there are 4 bibles, doesnt that mean it's not the word of God but rather of people who have changed it? Also that if there are 4 bibles left, doesnt this mean there were more bibles left b4 the 4?

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There are four bibles to suit your beliefs and which gospels you choose to believe. Google the Council of Nicaea (pretty interesting if you find the right link, some poor guy died on the crapper on the way to Rome after the council) which is where the bible and the substance of Christ was pretty much born.

I'm pretty sure according to the bible (and the movie Dogma) what we hold true on Earth God will hold true in heaven.

As for your last question see my first point.
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The 4 books of the Gospel (Which means The Good News) Are the first 4 books of the New Testament (The part where Jesus comes into play). Each book was written from a different disciple that traveled with Jesus. So they differ a little because they are each man's perspective or account on what he saw. If you interviewed 4 different people about the same thing you'd get 4 different stories. Same thing goes for the 4 books of the Bible.PercivalCox

The problem is that they are supposed to be God's words... And Jesus is executed a different way, and the resurrection happens different in each story.

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#16 hagiiiiiiiiii
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What is the old testament about? If Jesus never wrote anything down, then how do you guys know which is the right one and which is not?
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The Bible is pretty much made up of two main books: The New and Old Testaments. Each one of those is then comprised of smaller works.
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Also that what is the punishment for commiting a crime in Christianity? What are the rules for not getting yourself into sin? Also, what is allowed and what is dissallowed in Christianity in terms of food?hagiiiiiiiiii

The rules are the Ten Commandments. Thou shall not kill and all that. The book of Leviticus tells you the dietary laws about not eating pork and all that stuff. The Dietary laws aren't practised by most christians. Just Jews and Adventists follow those laws to the tee.

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#19 hagiiiiiiiiii
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I know about the 10 commandments, how about the punishments for breaking those commandments?
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Also that what is the punishment for commiting a crime in Christianity? What are the rules for not getting yourself into sin? Also, what is allowed and what is dissallowed in Christianity in terms of food?hagiiiiiiiiii
1. Do not worship any other gods.
2. Do not make any idols.
3. Do not use the name of God in vein
4. Keep the Sabbath holy.
5. Honor your father and your mother.
6. Do not murder.
7. Do not commit adultery. 
8. Do not steal. 
9. Do not lie.
10. Do not covet.
Those are the 10 Commandments that God told Moses. Those are the "rules" for us Christians.
Also we can eat anything we want.
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What is the old testament about? If Jesus never wrote anything down, then how do you guys know which is the right one and which is not?hagiiiiiiiiii
It deals with everything before Jesus' time. He and his disciples based their teachings on it. It is almost exactly the same as the Hebrew Bible. It also contains the book of psalms and details the lives of the prophets like Moses.
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I know about the 10 commandments, how about the punishments for breaking those commandments?hagiiiiiiiiii

Now that really depends on which Christian religion you go to. Each one has their own take on transgressing God's laws. Most believe that if you break a commandment you have sinned. And Sinners go to hell. But because Jesus died to save humans from sin all you have to do is pray to him and ask forgiveness. So when you die, if all your sins have been forgiven you go to heaven. If you are a sinner you go to hell. And each religion has varying degrees as to just how strict God is on who goes to hell.

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I know about the 10 commandments, how about the punishments for breaking those commandments?hagiiiiiiiiii

Death and damnation.

Unless you say you're sorry.

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#24 hagiiiiiiiiii
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hmm, i don't know of a game that does not have rules, however, you guys haven't told me any rules that you shall be punished for. That's what i wanted to know, the punishments, so that you can stay away from commiting sins. Commandments are pointless if there are no punishments.
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The punishment is eternity in hell. But if you ask for forgiveness sincerely and don't do it again you are ok because Jesus died for our sins, it was the ultimate sacrifice.
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[QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"]I know about the 10 commandments, how about the punishments for breaking those commandments?PercivalCox

Now that really depends on which Christian religion you go to. Each one has their own take on transgressing God's laws. Most believe that if you break a commandment you have sinned. And Sinners go to hell. But because Jesus died to save humans from sin all you have to do is pray to him and ask forgiveness. So when you die, if all your sins have been forgiven you go to heaven. If you are a sinner you go to hell. And each religion has varying degrees as to just how strict God is on who goes to hell.

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#27 rowzzr
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each bible caters to a different sect of christianity (,at least, that's what i think,) and culture altogether. so claiming only bible to be the "ultimate Bible" or winner bible or whatever would be questionable - just as much as religion in itself is questionable

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If Jesus is god, then the bible is also the word of god, if so then there shouldn't be 4 versions but rather 1, however you guys say that it is not written by Jesus but by his followers. Hmm, i'm getting confused.
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Christianity is less about rules and punishment and more about a relationship and the disappointment of disappointing the One on the other end. If you believe that Christianity is simply follow this rule and you get the reward of living in heaven, then you've failed to understand the purpose of God sending Jesus Christ to die for the sins of mankind.

Just like you or I enjoy the company of a good friend, Jesus Christ is the exact same thing but on a much deeper level.

Jesus was sent to offer the gift of unconditional love--something designed to fill our deepest of needs: to be accepted and loved.

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The punishment is eternity in hell. But if you ask for forgiveness sincerely and don't do it again you are ok because Jesus died for our sins, it was the ultimate sacrifice.1stCommando
If jesus is the son of god, then why would god call his own son? Is that something a father should do?
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If Jesus is god, then the bible is also the word of god, if so then there shouldn't be 4 versions but rather 1, however you guys say that it is not written by Jesus but by his followers. Hmm, i'm getting confused.hagiiiiiiiiii
Becuase it was written by men. They were inspired by God, but God/Jesus didn't write it. His prophets wrote it.
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If Jesus is god, then the bible is also the word of god, if so then there shouldn't be 4 versions but rather 1, however you guys say that it is not written by Jesus but by his followers. Hmm, i'm getting confused.hagiiiiiiiiii
The word of God can be expressed through the words and writings of ordinary humans (though it is important to discern the nutjobs [Pat Roberts] from the valid ones [Billy Graham]).
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[QUOTE="1stCommando"]The punishment is eternity in hell. But if you ask for forgiveness sincerely and don't do it again you are ok because Jesus died for our sins, it was the ultimate sacrifice.hagiiiiiiiiii
If jesus is the son of god, then why would god call his own son? Is that something a father should do?

Jesus is called the Son of God. But he's not literally his SON. He's basically God in human form.
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[QUOTE="1stCommando"]The punishment is eternity in hell. But if you ask for forgiveness sincerely and don't do it again you are ok because Jesus died for our sins, it was the ultimate sacrifice.hagiiiiiiiiii
If jesus is the son of god, then why would god call his own son? Is that something a father should do?

Jesus is portrayed a completely loyal and faithful son, even to his death.
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[QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"][QUOTE="1stCommando"]The punishment is eternity in hell. But if you ask for forgiveness sincerely and don't do it again you are ok because Jesus died for our sins, it was the ultimate sacrifice.1stCommando
If jesus is the son of god, then why would god call his own son? Is that something a father should do?

Jesus is called the Son of God. But he's not literally his SON. He's basically God in human form.

That statement isn't entirely true. Jesus called Himself the son of God.
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[QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"][QUOTE="1stCommando"]The punishment is eternity in hell. But if you ask for forgiveness sincerely and don't do it again you are ok because Jesus died for our sins, it was the ultimate sacrifice.1stCommando
If jesus is the son of god, then why would god call his own son? Is that something a father should do?

Jesus is called the Son of God. But he's not literally his SON. He's basically God in human form.

According to many original Christian theologians, Jesus is literally God's son, just as he is literally God.

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[QUOTE="1stCommando"][QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"][QUOTE="1stCommando"]The punishment is eternity in hell. But if you ask for forgiveness sincerely and don't do it again you are ok because Jesus died for our sins, it was the ultimate sacrifice.Strider212
If jesus is the son of god, then why would god call his own son? Is that something a father should do?

Jesus is called the Son of God. But he's not literally his SON. He's basically God in human form.

That statement isn't entirely true. Jesus called Himself the son of God.

Well the Book of John starts off with "In the beginning there was the word and the word was God wand the word was with God. So if that is true Jesus can be with God and God at the same time.
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To save humanity satan tried to trick petrus and Jesus got mad at the satan, i found this quote on the internet from one of the bibles, can someone explain to me the logic behind this? Didn't Jesus want to save the humans? Also how is it possible that the Satan wanted to save the humans?
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To save humanity satan tried to trick petrus and Jesus got mad at the satan, i found this quote on the internet from one of the bibles, can someone explain to me the logic behind this? Didn't Jesus want to save the humans? Also how is it possible that the Satan wanted to save the humans?
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I've never heard of Petrus. Satan tried to trick humans and Jesus tried to save them is what the Bible teaches. I'm not sure what you are looking at.

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[QUOTE="Strider212"][QUOTE="1stCommando"][QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"][QUOTE="1stCommando"]The punishment is eternity in hell. But if you ask for forgiveness sincerely and don't do it again you are ok because Jesus died for our sins, it was the ultimate sacrifice.PercivalCox
If jesus is the son of god, then why would god call his own son? Is that something a father should do?

Jesus is called the Son of God. But he's not literally his SON. He's basically God in human form.

That statement isn't entirely true. Jesus called Himself the son of God.

Well the Book of John starts off with "In the beginning there was the word and the word was God wand the word was with God. So if that is true Jesus can be with God and God at the same time.

Well if that is true? That is not a word which should be used to describe religion, it's either true or not, beliefs should not be based on if's.
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To save humanity satan tried to trick petrus and Jesus got mad at the satan, i found this quote on the internet from one of the bibles, can someone explain to me the logic behind this? Didn't Jesus want to save the humans? Also how is it possible that the Satan wanted to save the humans?
hagiiiiiiiiii
That is not canonical in any shape or form. Disregard most of the random sites you find about religions.
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[QUOTE="PercivalCox"][QUOTE="Strider212"][QUOTE="1stCommando"][QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"][QUOTE="1stCommando"]The punishment is eternity in hell. But if you ask for forgiveness sincerely and don't do it again you are ok because Jesus died for our sins, it was the ultimate sacrifice.hagiiiiiiiiii
If jesus is the son of god, then why would god call his own son? Is that something a father should do?

Jesus is called the Son of God. But he's not literally his SON. He's basically God in human form.

That statement isn't entirely true. Jesus called Himself the son of God.

Well the Book of John starts off with "In the beginning there was the word and the word was God wand the word was with God. So if that is true Jesus can be with God and God at the same time.

Well if that is true? That is not a word which should be used to describe religion, it's either true or not, beliefs should not be based on if's.

Well, I said 'if' because I don't personally believe in God, I've just spent years studing the subject.
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[QUOTE="PercivalCox"][QUOTE="Strider212"][QUOTE="1stCommando"][QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"][QUOTE="1stCommando"]The punishment is eternity in hell. But if you ask for forgiveness sincerely and don't do it again you are ok because Jesus died for our sins, it was the ultimate sacrifice.hagiiiiiiiiii
If jesus is the son of god, then why would god call his own son? Is that something a father should do?

Jesus is called the Son of God. But he's not literally his SON. He's basically God in human form.

That statement isn't entirely true. Jesus called Himself the son of God.

Well the Book of John starts off with "In the beginning there was the word and the word was God wand the word was with God. So if that is true Jesus can be with God and God at the same time.

Well if that is true? That is not a word which should be used to describe religion, it's either true or not, beliefs should not be based on if's.

Some beliefs require "if's".
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I'm glad there is finally a logical discussion of religion here. Not just one person flaming another person's beliefs back and forth.
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I'm glad there is finally a logical discussion of religion here. Not just one person flaming another person's beliefs back and forth.1stCommando
Shhhh. Don't jinx it.:P
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#46 PercivalCox
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I'm glad there is finally a logical discussion of religion here. Not just one person flaming another person's beliefs back and forth.1stCommando

Oh, I just haven't found someone to single out and humiliate yet... But give me a minute ;)

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#47 hagiiiiiiiiii
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To save humanity satan tried to trick petrus and Jesus got mad at the satan, i found this quote on the internet from one of the bibles, can someone explain to me the logic behind this? Didn't Jesus want to save the humans? Also how is it possible that the Satan wanted to save the humans?
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That is not canonical in any shape or form. Disregard most of the random sites you find about religions.

Oh, thanks alot for answering, i was having doubts to whether the site was trustable or not, i found the rigth quotation though, But He turned and said to Peter, "Get behind Me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to Me; for you are not setting your mind on God's interests, but man's."
Which makes alot more sense.
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#48 PercivalCox
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Yeah, you really can't go by anything a web site claims. Lots of propaganda.
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#49 hagiiiiiiiiii
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Well just a few more questions, it is possible that there were more then 4 bibles that existed, however if this is true, then who came up with the idea of reducing it to 4, and how did they know that the current 4 are the correct ones?
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#50 PercivalCox
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Well just a few more questions, it is possible that there were more then 4 bibles that existed, however if this is true, then who came up with the idea of reducing it to 4, and how did they know that the current 4 are the correct ones?hagiiiiiiiiii

That's an interesting point. There are actually about four books that were almost in the Bible. Mary Magdelan wrote one that never made it in. A group of scholars got together and decided which ones would be included and which wouldn't. So for all we know, there could be more out there that were lost or destroyed.