I have questions on Christianity, someone please answer !!!

[QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"]Just few more questions

God is the almighty creator of the earth, heaven, and all the universe, and yet, on account of a sin committed by one person, He ascribes the blame on all his progeny, who are completely unaware of the (sinful) deed (committed by their forefather); is this possible? And why is it that He did not find any other way than sacrificing His own son as an atonement for them? Is it worthy of His Majesty?


2nd question, "Jesus asked the fig tree to give fruit prematurely, and then withered it because it would not give fruit. It is impossible for a tree to give fruit out of season. Despite this fact, would it not be cruelty for Jesus to get angry with the tree and wither it? Could a Prophet be cruel?"RiSkyBiZ-13

For your first question: In my blog, "Bible Interpretation, Free Will, and the Big Band" it explains my belief that the story of Adam and Eve, is simply a story, completely open to interpretation. It is not verbatum, there was no flesh and blood Adam that once walked the Garden of Eden. As for sacrificing his own son, people are extremely blind. We needed something on that scale to make people realize what we have done. The world was given to us, and we were free to make it the most peaceful and prosperous place in existence. Turn on CNN, look what we've done. Read a history book, look what we've done. We still have AIDS and cancer, but we perfected the nuke decades ago.

For your 2nd question: Once again, the bible is not to be taken literally. My interpretation of that story is this: God asked the tree to do what it was naturally intended to do, what it was created to do, on the lowest scale. He didn't ask something crazy like "Get up and dance, tree!" because a tree isn't capable. I believe the story means that Jesus asks us to do the bare minimum, follow the Ten Commandments and be morale people to our best ability. If not, God will smite us. I hope I answered your questions sufficiently.

It still doesn't make sense that God would sacrifice his son, something on that scale was needed, I understand, however God does have the power to find another way. Surely. It is not worthy of his majest for sacrificing his own sons life.

hagiiiiiiiiii

He sacrificed his son's human shell, that is all. The pain Jesus endured was real, but Jesus still rose back from the dead and joined his father back in Heaven.

[QUOTE="abdelmessih101"]

As for Islam, the only thing I know about Islam is that their prophet is Mohammed ... I know their book is called the Quran, but I don't know where that came from. I also recently learned that they believe in a point system for entry into Heaven. For example, when you greet someone and say "Salam alekoom" (the best I could do to write how it's pronounced), you get 40 (or whatever theactual 'value' is)points, and if the other person doesn't say the same thing back, they lose 40 points, and so on. Also, you're only allowed to enter someone's house with your right foot first ... it's an insult if you enter with your left foot first. I have now clue where any of these rules, or where the Quran, originated, and I would love to learn some more if anyone knows.

hagiiiiiiiiii

I'm not lying unless I was lied to ... which I highly doubt.

***EDIT***

I also know about the 5 pillars, but I was also taught about the point system from a reliable source. I'm not if all of Islam follows this system, it may be specific to one of the factions of Islam ... but I'm nearly positive that this information is not false.

Have you ever watched lectures by a man named Ahmed Deedat. He's ascholar on Judiasm, Christianity and Islam. His debates answer a lot about what you want to know. Just type his name in youtube.1_Blood

Just few more questions

God is the almighty creator of the earth, heaven, and all the universe, and yet, on account of a sin committed by one person, He ascribes the blame on all his progeny, who are completely unaware of the (sinful) deed (committed by their forefather); is this possible?

I really don't know what most of those words mean, nor can I decipher them ... please put it in plain language.

And why is it that He did not find any other way than sacrificing His own son as an atonement for them? Is it worthy of His Majesty?

Sin was committed by mankind, and therefore, the only way tosave mankindfromdamnation wasfor a human to take the punishmentfor all our sins ... so God sent down his only begotten son Jesus Christ as a human totake the penalty for our sins. Of course, you may thinkthat because Godis omnipowerful that he is too high and mighty to take the form ofman.However, our Godis also an all-loving and humble God, andchose to be born as a human in a manger of all places. Every action Jesus Christ took here onEarth is a model forhow we should live our lives.

2nd question, "Jesus asked the fig tree to give fruit prematurely, and then withered it because it would not give fruit. It is impossible for a tree to give fruit out of season. Despite this fact, would it not be cruelty for Jesus to get angry with the tree and wither it? Could a Prophet be cruel?"

I don't have the answer/explanation to every specific circumstance, but if you PM me, I'll ask someone who will know better at my church on the weekend and get an answer for you. There is always an answer/explanation. Also, I'm not saying that this situation isn't important, but if you're going to nitpick little details here and there, you have to evaulate the importance of the situation. There may very well many minor contradictions here and there, and while there is always an explanation, chances are that you shouldn't dwell on them as most of them are unimportant in terms of the bigger picture.

hagiiiiiiiiii

[QUOTE="1_Blood"]Have you ever watched lectures by a man named Ahmed Deedat. He's ascholar on Judiasm, Christianity and Islam. His debates answer a lot about what you want to know. Just type his name in youtube.hagiiiiiiiiii

[QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"][QUOTE="abdelmessih101"]

As for Islam, the only thing I know about Islam is that their prophet is Mohammed ... I know their book is called the Quran, but I don't know where that came from. I also recently learned that they believe in a point system for entry into Heaven. For example, when you greet someone and say "Salam alekoom" (the best I could do to write how it's pronounced), you get 40 (or whatever theactual 'value' is)points, and if the other person doesn't say the same thing back, they lose 40 points, and so on. Also, you're only allowed to enter someone's house with your right foot first ... it's an insult if you enter with your left foot first. I have now clue where any of these rules, or where the Quran, originated, and I would love to learn some more if anyone knows.

abdelmessih101

I'm not lying unless I was lied to ... which I also highly doubt.

In the thirty-sixth, thirty-seventh and thirty-eighth verses of the twenty-second chapter of the Gospel of Matthew when Jesus was asked, "O Teacher! What is the greatest commandment in the Laws?", Jesus said unto him: Thou shall love Rab, who is thine God, with all thine heart, with all thine soul, with all thine thought. This is the great and the primary commandment. And it is stated in the fortieth verse that all Laws(Shariats) and Prophets are dependent on this commandment. God is one is written clearly in the Gospels of Matthew and Mark. Isn't possible that The world 'Father' means 'Rab', 'Owner', and 'Lord'mean biological father?hagiiiiiiiiii

Ah ... you have the wrong bible, I just checked all of the Bibles in my house and for those three verses, all of them read:

"36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, 'Thou shalt love the Lord they God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself' "

No mention of this Rab you speak of, but the name sounds familiar to me from when I learned about one of the other factions of Christianity. In any case, you have the wrong bible, socheck to make sure you have a "King James Version" or "New King James Version" to make sure you have the one true Holy Bible.

I was wondering why some of the quotes you had been mentioning didn't sound familiar.Make sure you check your sources on the information, because there is a lot of false information out there, and it's not always obvious when you're reading something false.

The first commandment, the first injunction in the Taurah, in the genuine Injil (the Bible in its pristine purity), in all the heavenly Books, (and in the laws of all Prophets), is tawhid, which means to believe in the existence and unity of God. Had the first and the most important commandment been trinity, Adam and all the succeeding Prophets would have announced et overtly. None of those Prophets stated anything like that. Isn't this is another proof testifying to the fact that the doctrine of trinity did not exist originally but appeared afterwards?hagiiiiiiiiii

Yes, there is a unity of God, and because there is already proof of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (the Holy Trinity), there had to be a statement confirming their unity as one entity. The Trinity exists, with or without that statement, and that statement serves to reinforce the fact that God is one entity that exists as a unified trinity.

[QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"]In the thirty-sixth, thirty-seventh and thirty-eighth verses of the twenty-second chapter of the Gospel of Matthew when Jesus was asked, "O Teacher! What is the greatest commandment in the Laws?", Jesus said unto him: Thou shall love Rab, who is thine God, with all thine heart, with all thine soul, with all thine thought. This is the great and the primary commandment. And it is stated in the fortieth verse that all Laws(Shariats) and Prophets are dependent on this commandment. God is one is written clearly in the Gospels of Matthew and Mark. Isn't possible that The world 'Father' means 'Rab', 'Owner', and 'Lord'mean biological father?abdelmessih101

Ah ... you have the wrong bible, I just checked all of the Bibles in my house and for those three verses, all of them read:

"36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, 'Thou shalt love the Lord they God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself' "

No mention of this Rab you speak of, but the name sounds familiar to me from when I learned about one of the other factions of Christianity. In any case, you have the wrong bible, socheck to make sure you have a "King James Version" or "New King James Version" to make sure you have the one true Holy Bible.

I was wondering why some of the quotes you had been mentioning didn't sound familiar.Make sure you check your sources on the information, because there is a lot of false information out there, and it's not always obvious when you're reading something false.

Wait... King James Version as the one true Holy Bible? Hah. King James had his 'scholars' change some of the words in order to have it reflect his own personal interpretation.

It's kind of funny that the one true Bible was the one that was not edited until the time of King James...

[QUOTE="abdelmessih101"]

[QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"]In the thirty-sixth, thirty-seventh and thirty-eighth verses of the twenty-second chapter of the Gospel of Matthew when Jesus was asked, "O Teacher! What is the greatest commandment in the Laws?", Jesus said unto him: Thou shall love Rab, who is thine God, with all thine heart, with all thine soul, with all thine thought. This is the great and the primary commandment. And it is stated in the fortieth verse that all Laws(Shariats) and Prophets are dependent on this commandment. God is one is written clearly in the Gospels of Matthew and Mark. Isn't possible that The world 'Father' means 'Rab', 'Owner', and 'Lord'mean biological father?muthsera666

Ah ... you have the wrong bible, I just checked all of the Bibles in my house and for those three verses, all of them read:

"36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, 'Thou shalt love the Lord they God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself' "

No mention of this Rab you speak of, but the name sounds familiar to me from when I learned about one of the other factions of Christianity. In any case, you have the wrong bible, socheck to make sure you have a "King James Version" or "New King James Version" to make sure you have the one true Holy Bible.

I was wondering why some of the quotes you had been mentioning didn't sound familiar.Make sure you check your sources on the information, because there is a lot of false information out there, and it's not always obvious when you're reading something false.

Wait... King James Version as the one true Holy Bible? Hah. King James had his 'scholars' change some of the words in order to have it reflect his own personal interpretation.

It's kind of funny that the one true Bible was the one that was not edited until the time of King James...

Might I ask where you heard this from?

[QUOTE="Revinh"]abdelmessih101 - Well, that's good that you believe, but if you were presented with something that is illogical, would you reject it? What if you were presented with something that is logical, but completely contradicts everything you believe now?

Yes, I'd reject it. What if I'm presented something logical that contradicts what I believe which is also logical? Well, one or the other must be wrong, I'd have to look into it.abdelmessih101

Again, logic and science CAN NOT explain everything. What would you believe in a situation that can't be explained by logic or science?

Again, I'm just saying that religion is supposed to explain things that science and logic can not. If you believe only in logic, then you will come across something, sooner or later, that logic just can not explain. What would you believe then?

And I'm saying that I disagree. Yes, it can. If you're in a situation where you can't logically explain, it's just because, well, you can't logically explain it--you lack the understanding of it. If you show a cellphone to people thousands of years ago, it wouldn't make sense to them.

[QUOTE="Revinh"] Just out of curiosity, why do you choose to believe that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are all separate entities as opposed to one entity?

Because, well, I already talked about it. If you study the bible you'd find out. For example, Jesus prayed to God, why would he pray to God and be God himself?abdelmessih101

When God came down to Earth, He took the form of man as Jesus, so God and Jesus are one. Jesus' life serves as a model for all us to follow, he prays to God to teach us, through His actions, to pray to God as well. It's perfectly logical :).

No, he sent his son to earth, as a ransom sacrifice. The Son is so much like the Father. He didn't just pray to teach us how to pray. He REALLY prayed to his father. Come on, he prayed numerous times and sometimes alone. He wasn't just demonstrating how to pray. Jesus never claimed to be God. "I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God." -John 20:17 "I have come down from heaven to do, not my will, but the will of him that sent me." -John 6:38 logical :)

[QUOTE="Revinh"]You may think it doesn't make sense that they're all one entity, and I may think it doesn't make sense if they're not one entity ... so continuing this arguement is pointless. I choose to believe things are a certain way, and I know in my heart they are one entity and my beliefs are strong enough that I consider them fact.

Why can't you believe that there's only one God, and that Jesus is not God?abdelmessih101

Because the trinity, meaning the Father (God in heaven), the Son (God as a human on Earth, i.e., Jesus), and the Holy Spirit , are all one entity. They each serve a different purpose, but all with the same goal in mind. God is our goal (to be with Him in Heaven), Jesus is our model (what would Jesus do?), and the Holy Spirit is our guide (tells us what is right/wrong).

I never said there was more than one God, all I said was that God exists as a trinity, yet is still one entity. Are you going to tell me that frozen ice, distilled liquid water, and steam are not all still H20? Just as water can exist in thesolid, liquid, gas form all at the same time (the triple point of water), God exists as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit all at the same time. Yet there is still only God, as water is still only one molecule.

Your belief is baseless. Jehovah, the Almighty God is above all (including Jesus, so no trinity) and the holy spirit is his active force. They're not all equal. They're not one. Jesus is God's first creation, not God. The holy spirit is not God. If you understand what I've discussed, your analogy is irrelevant.

[QUOTE="PercivalCox"]The 4 books of the Gospel (Which means The Good News) Are the first 4 books of the New Testament (The part where Jesus comes into play). Each book was written from a different disciple that traveled with Jesus. So they differ a little because they are each man's perspective or account on what he saw. If you interviewed 4 different people about the same thing you'd get 4 different stories. Same thing goes for the 4 books of the Bible.hagiiiiiiiiii

well, according to christianity the decision to accept you into heaven is made by God. One cannot save himself; rather, he must be saved by God. Thus, good people may or may not go to heaven, and christians may or may not enter heaven based on a variety of reasons.Lacrossejunkie

No. That is not correct.

I am interested in learning all sorts of religions, however i have few questions to christian people, please answer them intelligently.

What happened to the original bible sent by God? Why are there 4 Bibles each of the containing different information?
If there are 4 bibles which one is the original, also if there are 4 bibles, doesnt that mean it's not the word of God but rather of people who have changed it? Also that if there are 4 bibles left, doesnt this mean there were more bibles left b4 the 4?

hagiiiiiiiiii

Just few more questions

God is the almighty creator of the earth, heaven, and all the universe, and yet, on account of a sin committed by one person, He ascribes the blame on all his progeny, who are completely unaware of the (sinful) deed (committed by their forefather); is this possible? And why is it that He did not find any other way than sacrificing His own son as an atonement for them? Is it worthy of His Majesty?


2nd question, "Jesus asked the fig tree to give fruit prematurely, and then withered it because it would not give fruit. It is impossible for a tree to give fruit out of season. Despite this fact, would it not be cruelty for Jesus to get angry with the tree and wither it? Could a Prophet be cruel?"hagiiiiiiiiii

1 question: he did this because satan the devil claimed that the humans would only praise him as long as nothing bothered them... god gives satan permission to prove this. and because of that humans are imperfect.(it won't be as this forever though :) the end of the world we know will come and we will live on a paradise earth forever)
as for the sacrifice of his own son he gave something ecual as to what was lost that meaning that adam was a perfect human and only jesus was ecual to that.(don't think god is cold an evil, he made us at his image, so if we feel love and sadness he also does, logic)

2 question: Give me some time to research that, can't recall the full explanation... something about it was only to make an understandable example for his apostoles...

well how would a religion stand with no book from the god?

I believe there used to be a book from the god for christians but it was changed by many ppl so there are many copies.....

this would answer ur question....

Also that what is the punishment for commiting a crime in Christianity? What are the rules for not getting yourself into sin? Also, what is allowed and what is dissallowed in Christianity in terms of food?hagiiiiiiiiii

The punishment is eternity in hell. But if you ask for forgiveness sincerely and don't do it again you are ok because Jesus died for our sins, it was the ultimate sacrifice.1stCommando

Also that what is the punishment for commiting a crime in Christianity? What are the rules for not getting yourself into sin? Also, what is allowed and what is dissallowed in Christianity in terms of food?hagiiiiiiiiii

[QUOTE="whoody12"][QUOTE="Davidhye"][QUOTE="whoody12"]

I know, i dont believe in god either, but I whas just wondering if a christian could answer

hagiiiiiiiiii

then why is there more proof of a "big bang'' then the excistent of god ?

[QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"][QUOTE="whoody12"][QUOTE="Davidhye"][QUOTE="whoody12"]

I know, i dont believe in god either, but I whas just wondering if a christian could answer

whoody12

then why is there more proof of a "big bang'' then the excistent of god ?

What proof is there that big bang happened?? its all theory.Amarant15

You know the white noise in space? Well, assuming you haven't been in space, what you hear is white noise. But there is no noise in space, so how is that possible?

Those are believed to be the soundwaves still emitting from a cataclysmic event (a rather large one, say, big bang sized) somewhere in space.

It's not definitive proof, but there is something to go on.

[QUOTE="Lacrossejunkie"]well, according to christianity the decision to accept you into heaven is made by God. One cannot save himself; rather, he must be saved by God. Thus, good people may or may not go to heaven, and christians may or may not enter heaven based on a variety of reasons.Godly_Cure

No. That is not correct.

Actually, this is John Calvin's interpretation of the Bible. He taught that whether a person went to Heaven was based solely on God's discretion and was actually pre-ordained. It does not matter what kind ofperson the saved individual is, though there would be some inner draw to do good things in the world.

[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="abdelmessih101"]

[QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"]In the thirty-sixth, thirty-seventh and thirty-eighth verses of the twenty-second chapter of the Gospel of Matthew when Jesus was asked, "O Teacher! What is the greatest commandment in the Laws?", Jesus said unto him: Thou shall love Rab, who is thine God, with all thine heart, with all thine soul, with all thine thought. This is the great and the primary commandment. And it is stated in the fortieth verse that all Laws(Shariats) and Prophets are dependent on this commandment. God is one is written clearly in the Gospels of Matthew and Mark. Isn't possible that The world 'Father' means 'Rab', 'Owner', and 'Lord'mean biological father?abdelmessih101

Ah ... you have the wrong bible, I just checked all of the Bibles in my house and for those three verses, all of them read:

"36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, 'Thou shalt love the Lord they God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself' "

No mention of this Rab you speak of, but the name sounds familiar to me from when I learned about one of the other factions of Christianity. In any case, you have the wrong bible, socheck to make sure you have a "King James Version" or "New King James Version" to make sure you have the one true Holy Bible.

I was wondering why some of the quotes you had been mentioning didn't sound familiar.Make sure you check your sources on the information, because there is a lot of false information out there, and it's not always obvious when you're reading something false.

Wait... King James Version as the one true Holy Bible? Hah. King James had his 'scholars' change some of the words in order to have it reflect his own personal interpretation.

It's kind of funny that the one true Bible was the one that was not edited until the time of King James...

Might I ask where you heard this from?

Research on King James. I suggest you do a little studying of the man responsible for one version of the Bible rather than another version.

Actually, this is John Calvin's interpretation of the Bible. He taught that whether a person went to Heaven was based solely on God's discretion and was actually pre-ordained. It does not matter what kind ofperson the saved individual is, though there would be some inner draw to do good things in the world.

muthsera666

But that interpretation does not speak for all Christians....;)

[QUOTE="muthsera666"]

Actually, this is John Calvin's interpretation of the Bible. He taught that whether a person went to Heaven was based solely on God's discretion and was actually pre-ordained. It does not matter what kind ofperson the saved individual is, though there would be some inner draw to do good things in the world.

LJS9502_basic

But that interpretation does not speak for all Christians....;)

That's true. I try not to make blanket statements about any one group. I was just showing that there are some sects that believe that.

[QUOTE="Amarant15"] What proof is there that big bang happened?? its all theory.Cerussite

You know the white noise in space? Well, assuming you haven't been in space, what you hear is white noise. But there is no noise in space, so how is that possible?

Those are believed to be the soundwaves still emitting from a cataclysmic event (a rather large one, say, big bang sized) somewhere in space.

It's not definitive proof, but there is something to go on.

[QUOTE="Cerussite"]

[QUOTE="Amarant15"] What proof is there that big bang happened?? its all theory.Amarant15

You know the white noise in space? Well, assuming you haven't been in space, what you hear is white noise. But there is no noise in space, so how is that possible?

Those are believed to be the soundwaves still emitting from a cataclysmic event (a rather large one, say, big bang sized) somewhere in space.

It's not definitive proof, but there is something to go on.

I see your reasoning. But to me, it makes more sense to believe in the statistical chance, however small, than to believe ina magical being.

Myself, I believe in possibilities, so I don't really believe either way, but as I said, it makes more sense to believe in something grounded in this realm than the creation of a being beyond human comprehension.

[QUOTE="Amarant15"][QUOTE="Cerussite"]

muthsera666

I see your reasoning. But to me, it makes more sense to believe in the statistical chance, however small, than to believe ina magical being.

Myself, I believe in possibilities, so I don't really believe either way, but as I said, it makes more sense to believe in something grounded in this realm than the creation of a being beyond human comprehension.

[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="Amarant15"][QUOTE="Cerussite"]

Amarant15

I see your reasoning. But to me, it makes more sense to believe in the statistical chance, however small, than to believe ina magical being.

Myself, I believe in possibilities, so I don't really believe either way, but as I said, it makes more sense to believe in something grounded in this realm than the creation of a being beyond human comprehension.

[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="Amarant15"]

Amarant15

I see your reasoning. But to me, it makes more sense to believe in the statistical chance, however small, than to believe ina magical being.

Myself, I believe in possibilities, so I don't really believe either way, but as I said, it makes more sense to believe in something grounded in this realm than the creation of a being beyond human comprehension.

It's funny that you say that, since right now the Earth is getting closer and closer to the Sun each day, as it does every year. Instead of burning up, I think we'll just be calling it summer.

[QUOTE="abdelmessih101"][QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="abdelmessih101"]

[QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"]In the thirty-sixth, thirty-seventh and thirty-eighth verses of the twenty-second chapter of the Gospel of Matthew when Jesus was asked, "O Teacher! What is the greatest commandment in the Laws?", Jesus said unto him: Thou shall love Rab, who is thine God, with all thine heart, with all thine soul, with all thine thought. This is the great and the primary commandment. And it is stated in the fortieth verse that all Laws(Shariats) and Prophets are dependent on this commandment. God is one is written clearly in the Gospels of Matthew and Mark. Isn't possible that The world 'Father' means 'Rab', 'Owner', and 'Lord'mean biological father?muthsera666

Ah ... you have the wrong bible, I just checked all of the Bibles in my house and for those three verses, all of them read:

"36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, 'Thou shalt love the Lord they God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself' "

No mention of this Rab you speak of, but the name sounds familiar to me from when I learned about one of the other factions of Christianity. In any case, you have the wrong bible, socheck to make sure you have a "King James Version" or "New King James Version" to make sure you have the one true Holy Bible.

I was wondering why some of the quotes you had been mentioning didn't sound familiar.Make sure you check your sources on the information, because there is a lot of false information out there, and it's not always obvious when you're reading something false.

Wait... King James Version as the one true Holy Bible? Hah. King James had his 'scholars' change some of the words in order to have it reflect his own personal interpretation.

It's kind of funny that the one true Bible was the one that was not edited until the time of King James...

Might I ask where you heard this from?

Research on King James. I suggest you do a little studying of the man responsible for one version of the Bible rather than another version.

Can you explain how/why your source is more reliable than mine?

[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="abdelmessih101"][QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="abdelmessih101"]

[QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"]In the thirty-sixth, thirty-seventh and thirty-eighth verses of the twenty-second chapter of the Gospel of Matthew when Jesus was asked, "O Teacher! What is the greatest commandment in the Laws?", Jesus said unto him: Thou shall love Rab, who is thine God, with all thine heart, with all thine soul, with all thine thought. This is the great and the primary commandment. And it is stated in the fortieth verse that all Laws(Shariats) and Prophets are dependent on this commandment. God is one is written clearly in the Gospels of Matthew and Mark. Isn't possible that The world 'Father' means 'Rab', 'Owner', and 'Lord'mean biological father?abdelmessih101

Ah ... you have the wrong bible, I just checked all of the Bibles in my house and for those three verses, all of them read:

"36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, 'Thou shalt love the Lord they God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself' "

No mention of this Rab you speak of, but the name sounds familiar to me from when I learned about one of the other factions of Christianity. In any case, you have the wrong bible, socheck to make sure you have a "King James Version" or "New King James Version" to make sure you have the one true Holy Bible.

I was wondering why some of the quotes you had been mentioning didn't sound familiar.Make sure you check your sources on the information, because there is a lot of false information out there, and it's not always obvious when you're reading something false.

Wait... King James Version as the one true Holy Bible? Hah. King James had his 'scholars' change some of the words in order to have it reflect his own personal interpretation.

It's kind of funny that the one true Bible was the one that was not edited until the time of King James...

Might I ask where you heard this from?

Research on King James. I suggest you do a little studying of the man responsible for one version of the Bible rather than another version.

Can you explain how/why your source is more reliable than mine?

What is your source? You don't honestly expect to prove the validity of a book by using the same book, do you?

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Ah ... you have the wrong bible, I just checked all of the Bibles in my house and for those three verses, all of them read:

"36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, 'Thou shalt love the Lord they God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself' "

No mention of this Rab you speak of, but the name sounds familiar to me from when I learned about one of the other factions of Christianity. In any case, you have the wrong bible, socheck to make sure you have a "King James Version" or "New King James Version" to make sure you have the one true Holy Bible.

I was wondering why some of the quotes you had been mentioning didn't sound familiar.Make sure you check your sources on the information, because there is a lot of false information out there, and it's not always obvious when you're reading something false.

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