I have questions on Christianity, someone please answer !!!

[QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"]Well just a few more questions, it is possible that there were more then 4 bibles that existed, however if this is true, then who came up with the idea of reducing it to 4, and how did they know that the current 4 are the correct ones?PercivalCox

That's an interesting point. There are actually about four books that were almost in the Bible. Mary Magdelan wrote one that never made it in. A group of scholars got together and decided which ones would be included and which wouldn't. So for all we know, there could be more out there that were lost or destroyed.

Umm also that because there are 4 books in the bible, do you guys consider all of the 4 books to be the correct ones or is there a particular bible that you must pick and follow.hagiiiiiiiiii

Books are more like chapters. They are called 'books' but they are just different sections of the same Bible. Think of the "Books of the Bible" as chapters of the Bible.

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[QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"]Well just a few more questions, it is possible that there were more then 4 bibles that existed, however if this is true, then who came up with the idea of reducing it to 4, and how did they know that the current 4 are the correct ones?elblanquito_81

That's an interesting point. There are actually about four books that were almost in the Bible. Mary Magdelan wrote one that never made it in. A group of scholars got together and decided which ones would be included and which wouldn't. So for all we know, there could be more out there that were lost or destroyed.

I heard that. But since he went and bought land and hung himself after he betrayed Jesus, I don't know how much time he had to write a book. Or if it would have been inspired by God as the other books are.

Umm also that because there are 4 books in the bible, do you guys consider all of the 4 books to be the correct ones or is there a particular bible that you must pick and follow.hagiiiiiiiiii

Well just a few more questions, it is possible that there were more then 4 bibles that existed, however if this is true, then who came up with the idea of reducing it to 4, and how did they know that the current 4 are the correct ones?hagiiiiiiiiii

[QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"]Umm also that because there are 4 books in the bible, do you guys consider all of the 4 books to be the correct ones or is there a particular bible that you must pick and follow.PercivalCox

Books are more like chapters. They are called 'books' but they are just different sections of the same Bible. Think of the "Books of the Bible" as chapters of the Bible.

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[QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"]Umm also that because there are 4 books in the bible, do you guys consider all of the 4 books to be the correct ones or is there a particular bible that you must pick and follow.hagiiiiiiiiii

Books are more like chapters. They are called 'books' but they are just different sections of the same Bible. Think of the "Books of the Bible" as chapters of the Bible.

All the books tell the same story. Just different perspectives, or points of view, that that writer saw when he was with Jesus. Yes he died, but he was ressurected. So, he was a man, and he was God at the same time. The books don't contradict eachother, they are just what one person saw versus what another man saw from ten feet away, and so on.

They all say the same thing. They all say he was crucified, they all say he rose from the dead, they all say he had Divine Powers.1stCommando

Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

(a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)

(b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)

Did Jesus allow his disciples to keep a staff on their journey?

(a) Yes(Mark6:8)

The story of Christianity is a very simple one, yet surprisingly eloquent and meaningful.

Basically, God created man in order to demonstrate his glory and love. He placed man in the Garden of Eden and instilled in him the nature of a warrior and of a fighter (you'll notice that Adam was created in the wild). It was Adam's joy to simply explore the world that God had created for him. Yet, he became lonely, so God created a suitable mate for him in Eve.

The two enjoyed something that you and I will never fully understand in this lifetime--full acceptance and love. Because Adam and Eve walked in the presence of God (who in essence is defined as love by John), they never experienced self-consciousness, doubt, fear, or any of the things that you and I feel. They only knew acceptance and joy; however, Satan entered the Garden and tempted them, and they chose to sin against God. Instantly, they opened the floodgates to worry, fear, rejection, loneliness, and self-consciousness (this is evident because they suddenly were conscious that they were naked and sewed fig leaves to cover themselves and then hid from God).

Because God had designed it so that He would not reside in the presence of sin, He removed them from the Garden and placed them in the wild, instructing them that they must now work for their food and that they would now unfortunately experience pain. Because they had sinned, it was impossible for them to repair the broken link between them and God. They could no longer enjoy the physical presence and full acceptance of God and His love.

All of this saddened God because He loved them deeply and desired to be with them because His creation was His joy and His glory. He had imprinted man with traits of His own and He longed to have fellowship with them like before.

God knew that man could not repair the damage on his own, so God (the only being capable of doing so) made Himself human in the form of Jesus and made Himself to be an example to mankind of a better way of living, one that provided everlasting satisfaction (similar to that which Adam and Eve enjoyed). Jesus was obedient to the point of death in that He died for the sins of every man, woman, and child that lived or will ever live in order that we might be able to reside with the One who created us in the first place.

In other words, our relationship with Jesus replaced the link between us and God and again made available the full spectrum of love that we were for so long departed from.

Even now, God is preparing for our homecoming (physically and spiritually) and stands with open arms and continuously looks with understanding eyes as we do our best to make our way towards home.

That is the unbelievable, strange story of Christianity. It is a love story between two great friends. One friend was separated from the other, so the other friend sacrificed His life so that they could both enjoy one another's fellowship in the end.

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[QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"]Umm also that because there are 4 books in the bible, do you guys consider all of the 4 books to be the correct ones or is there a particular bible that you must pick and follow.hagiiiiiiiiii

Books are more like chapters. They are called 'books' but they are just different sections of the same Bible. Think of the "Books of the Bible" as chapters of the Bible.

[QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"]Well just a few more questions, it is possible that there were more then 4 bibles that existed, however if this is true, then who came up with the idea of reducing it to 4, and how did they know that the current 4 are the correct ones?Tiefster

Thanks alot guys, it's not confusing at all, it's stuff i wanted to know, i'm going to sleep now, thanks for answering my questions.hagiiiiiiiiii

Thanks alot guys, it's not confusing at all, it's stuff i wanted to know, i'm going to sleep now, thanks for answering my questions.hagiiiiiiiiii

[QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"]Thanks alot guys, it's not confusing at all, it's stuff i wanted to know, i'm going to sleep now, thanks for answering my questions.Strider212

you know what I wonder:

if I don't believe in god, but have been a good human, I will still go to hell

but if I believe in god, and have been a very bad person, I still can go to heavon

doesn't sound fair

you know what I wonder:

if I don't believe in god, but have been a good human, I will still go to hell

but if I believe in god, and have been a very bad person, I still can go to heavon

doesn't sound fair

whoody12

you want the ultimate unfairness? THERE IS NO HELL OR HEAVEN! :twisted: muahahaha
all that's gonna happen is you will be eaten by worms...and yea - that's about it

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you know what I wonder:

if I don't believe in god, but have been a good human, I will still go to hell

but if I believe in god, and have been a very bad person, I still can go to heavon

doesn't sound fair

Davidhye

you want the ultimate unfairness? THERE IS NO HELL OR HEAVEN! :twisted: muahahaha
all that's gonna happen is you will be eaten by worms...and yea - that's about it

I know, i dont believe in god either, but I whas just wondering if a christian could answer

you know what I wonder:

if I don't believe in god, but have been a good human, I will still go to hell

but if I believe in god, and have been a very bad person, I still can go to heavon

doesn't sound fair

whoody12

original bible sent by God is gone. all we have is translations.

4 bibles? where did you here that? also, the greek manuscripts are the closest we have to the original new testament.

also, the bible is teh INSPIRED word of God, not the literal word of God

[QUOTE="Davidhye"][QUOTE="whoody12"]

I know, i dont believe in god either, but I whas just wondering if a christian could answer

whoody12

I am interested in learning all sorts of religions, however i have few questions to christian people, please answer them intelligently.

What happened to the original bible sent by God? Why are there 4 Bibles each of the containing different information?
If there are 4 bibles which one is the original, also if there are 4 bibles, doesnt that mean it's not the word of God but rather of people who have changed it? Also that if there are 4 bibles left, doesnt this mean there were more bibles left b4 the 4?

hagiiiiiiiiii

The four Bibles are not seperate Bibles, but different translations. The Hebrew language is very flexible, so people have translated the Bible in different ways, resulting in different versions.

[QUOTE="PercivalCox"]The 4 books of the Gospel (Which means The Good News) Are the first 4 books of the New Testament (The part where Jesus comes into play). Each book was written from a different disciple that traveled with Jesus. So they differ a little because they are each man's perspective or account on what he saw. If you interviewed 4 different people about the same thing you'd get 4 different stories. Same thing goes for the 4 books of the Bible.hagiiiiiiiiii

[QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"]Also that what is the punishment for commiting a crime in Christianity? What are the rules for not getting yourself into sin? Also, what is allowed and what is dissallowed in Christianity in terms of food?1stCommando

[QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"][QUOTE="PercivalCox"]The 4 books of the Gospel (Which means The Good News) Are the first 4 books of the New Testament (The part where Jesus comes into play). Each book was written from a different disciple that traveled with Jesus. So they differ a little because they are each man's perspective or account on what he saw. If you interviewed 4 different people about the same thing you'd get 4 different stories. Same thing goes for the 4 books of the Bible.OhhSnap50893

There are 66 books, I believe.

[QUOTE="OhhSnap50893"][QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"][QUOTE="PercivalCox"]The 4 books of the Gospel (Which means The Good News) Are the first 4 books of the New Testament (The part where Jesus comes into play). Each book was written from a different disciple that traveled with Jesus. So they differ a little because they are each man's perspective or account on what he saw. If you interviewed 4 different people about the same thing you'd get 4 different stories. Same thing goes for the 4 books of the Bible.Dracargen

There are 66 books, I believe.

They all say the same thing. They all say he was crucified, they all say he rose from the dead, they all say he had Divine Powers.1stCommando

But the specifics are different in the four gospels. Such as the men/angels present at the tomb of Jesus.

1. Keep to your religion and do not violate its practices of worship.
2. Do not worship idols unless permitted by your religion.
3. Do not use the name of your god(s) in vein.
4. Observe the holy days of your faith in good conscience.
5. Honor your parents to the extent they deserve, but they are human as anyone else.
6. Do not take a life without just cause.
7. Do not commit adultery.
8. Do not steal.
9. Do not lie.
10. Do not covet.

My Ten Commandments

This is my editing of the Ten Commandments. I find it to be better.

[QUOTE="My Ten Commandments"]

1. Keep to your religion and do not violate its practices of worship.
2. Do not worship idols unless permitted by your religion.
3. Do not use the name of your god(s) in vein.
4. Observe the holy days of your faith in good conscience.
5. Honor your parents to the extent they deserve, but they are human as anyone else.
6. Do not take a life without just cause.
7. Do not commit adultery.
8. Do not steal.
9. Do not lie.
10. Do not covet.

muthsera666

This is my editing of the Ten Commandments. I find it to be better.

Well, I suppose when it becomes you against God, you should have the greater authority.:|

The only sin is stupidity--a sin committed against yourself.

There is a basic message of Christianity called the gospel. It is not just the new testament but also the old testament as well. The gospel is not just that Jesus saves. It is much more complicated than that. The simplified version is this. God is holy and righteous. We are not. The problem is not that we sin but we do nothing but sin. God is love but also just. He may love us but he is also justand the wages of sin is death. The bible makes it clear He hates sin. He hates the sinner too. We are so evil he wants nothing to do with us. This is shown atleast a few times in the old testament. Since we continue to sin against God, all of us, not even Mother Teresa was good enough, the wages of our sin is death. Not just dying once but an eternal death. What is an eternal death? Partying with satan and our buddies in hell? No. Being tortured in hell by satan? No. It is suffereing the wrath of God forever. This is the same fate satan has. Having fun yet?

Now we have a problem. We have a God who created us, who loves us, and who will make us suffer his wrath because we are so wicked. There are many who say that God loves us too much and wouldnt really send anyone to hell. Well, this is not what God says. In fact, even most Christians here in America dont really know the attributes of God according the scripture. We tend to make up our own idea of God and heaven. It's kinda scary how many Christians dont know anything about the God they say they believe. Thats where studying the scripture comes to play, which again, most of us don't do. It seems to me that most people like the idea of heaven but they dont want God to be there.

Anyways, back to our problem. We don't want to go to hell. We want heaven. or atleast we think we do. If you dont want to live your life here on earth worshiping God and living to please Him then thereis no point in going to heaven. But if we do get to the point where we love God and we hate our sin, then this is where Jesus comes to save the day. No good works can cancel our sin, no saying sorry will do us any good, no prayer will save our souls. Praying a prayer asking Jesus into your heart will not save you! Jesus suffered the wrath of God so we dont have to but it doesnt automatically save everyone.

It is preached in many churches that if you admit you are a sinner, and want to go to heaven, and pray a prayer to Jesus, then you are saved. This is a lie. Nothing we do can do us any good. What it takes is a complete transformation of ourselves done by God and God alone. The question is not do you know that you are a sinner? It is not do you want to go to heaven? No. It is this. Now that you have heard the gospel has God changed you in such a way that you now love the God you used to hate and hate the sin you used to love?

Repentance is not just confessing our sins but a complete halt of our sinful life and desires and starting a desire for God and his holiness. It is by Gods grace we are saved. It takes faith in him and repentance too but it is not just believing in him. Satan believes in him. But it is an act of God that we are changed into a new man. Once you are this new man, you will still sin, but you now hate your sin. The God you used to despise because he was so mean, making so many rules and letting all of these bad things happen and whatever other reason you have for not liking God, you now love him and desire the things he desires. You hate the things he hates.Not everyone who says they are a Christian will go to heaven. Not everyone who prayed a prayer to Jesys will go the heaven. Not everyone who goes to church will go to heaven. kudos.

[QUOTE="Strider212"][QUOTE="1stCommando"][QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"][QUOTE="1stCommando"]The punishment is eternity in hell. But if you ask for forgiveness sincerely and don't do it again you are ok because Jesus died for our sins, it was the ultimate sacrifice.PercivalCox

Jesus is not God. He cannot be with God and be God at the same time. It's because of the way it's translated. Jesus was called "god" because of his high position. It means like, "the Word was a mighty one."

[QUOTE="1stCommando"]They all say the same thing. They all say he was crucified, they all say he rose from the dead, they all say he had Divine Powers.muthsera666

But the specifics are different in the four gospels. Such as the men/angels present at the tomb of Jesus.

There are some things in one Gospel but not in others but I don't recall differences like that, or disagreements if that's what you mean..

[QUOTE="PercivalCox"][QUOTE="Strider212"][QUOTE="1stCommando"][QUOTE="hagiiiiiiiiii"][QUOTE="1stCommando"]The punishment is eternity in hell. But if you ask for forgiveness sincerely and don't do it again you are ok because Jesus died for our sins, it was the ultimate sacrifice.Revinh

Jesus is not God. He cannot be with God and be God at the same time. It's because of the way it's translated. Jesus was called "god" because of his high position. It means like, "the Word was a mighty one."

According to many early Christian theologists, Jesus is God and the Son of God at the same time. Logic does not apply here. Jesus had to be God and be human at the same time in order for the redemption of mankind to work. He was completely human and completely God. The human aspect enabled the salvation of mankind and the God portion enabled him to rise from the grave.

Theologically. Read Augustine, Calvin, and many others for clarification.

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[QUOTE="1stCommando"]They all say the same thing. They all say he was crucified, they all say he rose from the dead, they all say he had Divine Powers.Revinh

But the specifics are different in the four gospels. Such as the men/angels present at the tomb of Jesus.

There are some things in one Gospel but not in others but I don't recall differences like that, or disagreements if that's what you mean..

In only one of the stories is Jesus stabbed by the Spear of Destiny.

People by Jesus's tomb: Matthew had one man outside. Mark had two men standing outside. Luke had one angel standing outside. John had two angels standing outside.

There is only mention in one of the books of Jesus spending any time on Earth after his ressurection, I think.

I am interested in learning all sorts of religions, however i have few questions to christian people, please answer them intelligently.

What happened to the original bible sent by God? Why are there 4 Bibles each of the containing different information?
If there are 4 bibles which one is the original, also if there are 4 bibles, doesnt that mean it's not the word of God but rather of people who have changed it? Also that if there are 4 bibles left, doesnt this mean there were more bibles left b4 the 4?

hagiiiiiiiiii

4 bibles? This is news to me, I was under the impression that the (Christian / Catholic) bible was the Dead Sea Scrolls compiled...?

Alright I'll take this opportunity to as while I still can.

Alright, I get kind of confused. I hear some Christians/ Catholics saying that Jesus is their lord. But isn't God supposed to be lord? So is Jesus like, your God or what? What's the deal.

Also, if he is your god, and he is Mary's son and god's like.. the dad. Then doesn't that mean that you have 2 gods now? Doesn't that make this religion polytheistic instead of montheistic?

And if he's not your lord, then why do you worship him more than god?

Serious questions so I need serious answers. Thankies.

According to many early Christian theologists, Jesus is God and the Son of God at the same time. Logic does not apply here. Jesus had to be God and be human at the same time in order for the redemption of mankind to work. He was completely human and completely God. The human aspect enabled the salvation of mankind and the God portion enabled him to rise from the grave.

Theologically. Read Augustine, Calvin, and many others for clarification.muthsera666

Logic DOES apply and it HAS to apply if you're to believe it and in order to be accurate. There wouldn't be Father-Son relationship thing if they're one. Also, he said that the father is greater than him.

Jesus was a perfect human which enabled the salvation for mankind to work. Jehovah God resurrected him when he died.

There are those that believe they're the same but you have to investigate it yourself.

In only one of the stories is Jesus stabbed by the Spear of Destiny.

People by Jesus's tomb: Matthew had one man outside. Mark had two men standing outside. Luke had one angel standing outside. John had two angels standing outside.

There is only mention in one of the books of Jesus spending any time on Earth after his ressurection, I think.muthsera666

Do you mind giving the chapter:verses?

Alright I'll take this opportunity to as while I still can.

Alright, I get kind of confused. I hear some Christians/ Catholics saying that Jesus is their lord. But isn't God supposed to be lord? So is Jesus like, your God or what? What's the deal.

Also, if he is your god, and he is Mary's son and god's like.. the dad. Then doesn't that mean that you have 2 gods now? Doesn't that make this religion polytheistic instead of montheistic?

And if he's not your lord, then why do you worship him more than god?

Serious questions so I need serious answers. Thankies.Lyphe2k

"Lord" can apply to both of them. When Jesus is called "lord," it means like "leader" (I think) not the almighty God.

He isn't.

I don't.

I am interested in learning all sorts of religions, however i have few questions to christian people, please answer them intelligently.

What happened to the original bible sent by God?

The bible wasn't "sent" by God, rather written by people through the influence of the Holy Spirit. In Christianity, God is a trinity, but all threemake up a single entity. There is the Father (God up in Heaven), the Son (Jesus Christ who lived as a human here on earth), and the Holy Spirit (essentially the Christian conscious which God uses to guide people in the right direction -the Holy Spirit enters your body when you're baptized).

Why are there 4 Bibles each of the containing different information?

There's one Bible, with several books written by different people, but again, God used the Holy Spirit to write it through these people, so the information is reliable. There 4 Gospels if that's what you're asking about which others have explained. Today, different factions of Christianity have altered the original Bible,so there is a Protestant bible which is differentfrom the Mormon bible which different from the real Bible.

If you want to read the actual Bible, go with the KJV - King James Version (or New King James Version) ... that way you don't accidentally get the Protestant bible or the Mormon bible. Obviously, if you asked a Mormon or a Protestant, they will give their version of the bible and tell you it is the real thing when it isn't ... so be careful when you buy one.

If there are 4 bibles which one is the original, also if there are 4 bibles, doesnt that mean it's not the word of God but rather of people who have changed it?

No, each different author of the Bible has a slightly different perspective, butall of them were blessed by the Holy Spirit, and we believe that it is God who wrote through them using the Holy Spirit ... so they are God's words.

Also that if there are 4 bibles left, doesnt this mean there were more bibles left b4 the 4?

Well, there will always be immitations and it may be a little bit nerve-racking to make sure you get the authentic Bible, because the imposters will always claim to be the real thing. As I said, the KJV or NKJV should be the real thing.

hagiiiiiiiiii

Alright I'll take this opportunity to as while I still can.

Alright, I get kind of confused. I hear some Christians/ Catholics saying that Jesus is their lord. But isn't God supposed to be lord? So is Jesus like, your God or what? What's the deal.

Also, if he is your god, and he is Mary's son and god's like.. the dad. Then doesn't that mean that you have 2 gods now? Doesn't that make this religion polytheistic instead of montheistic?

And if he's not your lord, then why do you worship him more than god?

Serious questions so I need serious answers. Thankies.

Lyphe2k

God is a trinity, but is still one entity. There is the Father (God up in Heaven), the Son (Jesus Christ who came down to Earth and died for our sins), and the Holy Spirit (the Christian conscience through which God guides us humans - the Holy Spirit enters your body during baptism). God exists in three different forms, but is still one entity. He is omnipresent and omnipowerful. He is all-knowing; He did not have a beginning nor will He have an end.

It's a lot to wrap your mind around, but religion serves to answer all of the unknowns in life, and about what happens after life ... so it really gives me a feeling of comfort in knowing what will happen to me and in knowing about who is watching over me and who I can turn to when there is nobody else.

[QUOTE="muthsera666"]According to many early Christian theologists, Jesus is God and the Son of God at the same time. Logic does not apply here. Jesus had to be God and be human at the same time in order for the redemption of mankind to work. He was completely human and completely God. The human aspect enabled the salvation of mankind and the God portion enabled him to rise from the grave.

Theologically. Read Augustine, Calvin, and many others for clarification.Revinh

Logic DOES apply and it HAS to apply if you're to believe it and in order to be accurate. There wouldn't be Father-Son relationship thing if they're one. Also, he said that the father is greater than him.

Jesus was a perfect human which enabled the salvation for mankind to work. Jehovah God resurrected him when he died.

There are those that believe they're the same but you have to investigate it yourself.

We're trying to explain something that can't really be proven. God is one entity, but exists as a trinity: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Logic DOES NOT apply here ... it is all about FAITH - believing in that which is unseen. It's not as if I haven't experienced God in my life - I have.

For example, my father was paralyzed on the right side of his body when he was 3 years old. His dad, (my grandfather), found out the Coptic Orthodox Pope (I'm a Coptic Orthodox Christian) had come to visit at their church back in Egypt. However, the Pope is "guarded" by several deacons, because otherwise, everyone would crowd around him.

When my grandfather tried to get through to the Pope with my dad sleeping on his shoulder, he was obviously stopped by one of the deacons. He tried to explain the situation to the deacons about my dad, but without hearing anything, the Pope told the deacons to allow my grandfather to pass. And, again, without having had anything explained to him, the Pope prayed on my father and told my grandfather that my dad would be healed. My dad got a blessing from two other Priests that same day. Even though his throught was paralyzed that day, he was able to partake of confession that day. Then slowly, after a few weeks, my dad slowly healed back to normal.

Fast forward about 50 years, and my dad is still fine. Bottom line, I believe in that which I cannot see, (which is called faith), but it definitely is something I experience in my life ... and it is such an amazing feeling to get to know God and build a relationship with him, and to know that when all else fails, when there is no one on Earththat can help you, you have God up in heaven looking down on you and taking care of you.

God is no trinity.Revinh

Believe what you want, but you arewrong :). God is one entity, but he exists as a trinity: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.