i never understood why actors are so praised and famed for!

acting itself is an fake act, sure those in the movie drama have powerful mental strength but i cannot praise them for just acts.swordsboy

[QUOTE="Nude_Dude"]I can understand where you're coming from, you're a terrible, terrible actor. swordsboy

I hate professional sports simply because they get paid millions of dollars to do nothing that contributes to society or culture, when people like scientists and artists scrape by when they are the ones making all of the innovations that drive culture and society. At least the working man gets paid a steady paycheck to keep the mainstream running smooth.

[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

I hate professional sports simply because they get paid millions of dollars to do nothing that contributes to society or culture, when people like scientists and artists scrape by when they are the ones making all of the innovations that drive culture and society. At least the working man gets paid a steady paycheck to keep the mainstream running smooth.

swordsboy

Yeah, it's entertaining. I will give it that. I just hate how much we pay the players.

I hate professional sports simply because they get paid millions of dollars to do nothing that contributes to society or culture, when people like scientists and artists scrape by when they are the ones making all of the innovations that drive culture and society. At least the working man gets paid a steady paycheck to keep the mainstream running smooth.

WiiCubeM1

How do sports figure contribute nothing to society or culture? Do you realize how huge a part of American culture baseball is? How how huge a part of Canadian culture hockey is? (just to use a couple of examples off the top of my head.) And many artists make huge amounts of money.

[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

I hate professional sports simply because they get paid millions of dollars to do nothing that contributes to society or culture, when people like scientists and artists scrape by when they are the ones making all of the innovations that drive culture and society. At least the working man gets paid a steady paycheck to keep the mainstream running smooth.

worlock77

How do sports figure contribute nothing to society or culture? Do you realize how huge a part of American culture baseball is? How how huge a part of Canadian culture hockey is? (just to use a couple of examples off the top of my head.) And many artists make huge amounts of money.

Sports: It's just entertainment, and something that we can be just as entertained from by watching amateurs, where they play for fun or pay to play. Again, it's not the sport, I just don't get why we pay certain people millions to do something that was already being done.

Art: I know there are rich artists, just like their are a few rich scientists, but they differ from sports in two ways. The people who make a living off of it are overwhelmingly poor or middle-class, and their work is original. I couldn't think of Quantum Physics or paint the Mona Lisa, but I can hit a triple in baseball and I don't do it for a living.

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[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

I hate professional sports simply because they get paid millions of dollars to do nothing that contributes to society or culture, when people like scientists and artists scrape by when they are the ones making all of the innovations that drive culture and society. At least the working man gets paid a steady paycheck to keep the mainstream running smooth.

WiiCubeM1

How do sports figure contribute nothing to society or culture? Do you realize how huge a part of American culture baseball is? How how huge a part of Canadian culture hockey is? (just to use a couple of examples off the top of my head.) And many artists make huge amounts of money.

Sports: It's just entertainment, and something that we can be just as entertained from by watching amateurs, where they play for fun or pay to play. Again, it's not the sport, I just don't get why we pay certain people millions to do something that was already being done.

Art: I know there are rich artists, just like their are a few rich scientists, but they differ from sports in two ways. The people who make a living off of it are overwhelmingly poor or middle-class, and their work is original. I couldn't think of Quantum Physics or paint the Mona Lisa, but I can hit a triple in baseball and I don't do it for a living.

Anyone can hit a triple in baseball given the right set of circumstances. The question is can you do it at the level those guys do? I doubt it. There are few who can. And your problem isn't with sports players, it's with the free market. Players are only paid what the market dictates.

[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

How do sports figure contribute nothing to society or culture? Do you realize how huge a part of American culture baseball is? How how huge a part of Canadian culture hockey is? (just to use a couple of examples off the top of my head.) And many artists make huge amounts of money.

worlock77

Sports: It's just entertainment, and something that we can be just as entertained from by watching amateurs, where they play for fun or pay to play. Again, it's not the sport, I just don't get why we pay certain people millions to do something that was already being done.

Art: I know there are rich artists, just like their are a few rich scientists, but they differ from sports in two ways. The people who make a living off of it are overwhelmingly poor or middle-class, and their work is original. I couldn't think of Quantum Physics or paint the Mona Lisa, but I can hit a triple in baseball and I don't do it for a living.

Anyone can hit a triple in baseball given the right set of circumstances. The question is can you do it at the level those guys do? I doubt it. There are few who can. And your problem isn't with sports players, it's with the free market. Players are only paid what the market dictates.

Then I hate the free market, then. No, I can't hit the same levels as someone in the majors (although I did pitch at 85 once. Pure luck), but what they do is a common, generic skill with nothing unique about each player. The thing I REALLY hate about some of them is how cocky they can get.

I don't praise anyone buddy

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[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

Sports: It's just entertainment, and something that we can be just as entertained from by watching amateurs, where they play for fun or pay to play. Again, it's not the sport, I just don't get why we pay certain people millions to do something that was already being done.

Art: I know there are rich artists, just like their are a few rich scientists, but they differ from sports in two ways. The people who make a living off of it are overwhelmingly poor or middle-class, and their work is original. I couldn't think of Quantum Physics or paint the Mona Lisa, but I can hit a triple in baseball and I don't do it for a living.

WiiCubeM1

Anyone can hit a triple in baseball given the right set of circumstances. The question is can you do it at the level those guys do? I doubt it. There are few who can. And your problem isn't with sports players, it's with the free market. Players are only paid what the market dictates.

Then I hate the free market, then. No, I can't hit the same levels as someone in the majors (although I did pitch at 85 once. Pure luck), but what they do is a common, generic skill with nothing unique about each player. The thing I REALLY hate about some of them is how cocky they can get.

But it's not a common, generic skill. If it were more people would be doing it, the market would be saturated, and player salaries would be low. Now since you brought up artists what makes them worthy of being paid so much? Anyone can create art.

[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Anyone can hit a triple in baseball given the right set of circumstances. The question is can you do it at the level those guys do? I doubt it. There are few who can. And your problem isn't with sports players, it's with the free market. Players are only paid what the market dictates.

worlock77

Then I hate the free market, then. No, I can't hit the same levels as someone in the majors (although I did pitch at 85 once. Pure luck), but what they do is a common, generic skill with nothing unique about each player. The thing I REALLY hate about some of them is how cocky they can get.

But it's not a common, generic skill. If it were more people would be doing it, the market would be saturated, and player salaries would be low. Now since you brought up artists what makes them worthy of being paid so much? Anyone can create art.

What I mean is, simplified, anyone can play sports, and with enough practice, anyone could be as good as them (well, not ANYONE, but a sizeable chunk of the population). With art, it's all personal, all created through one's creativity and no one else on earth can create the exact same thing they did. Not everyone can create "art". I can draw, fairly well, and I can write video game remixes, but what I do is draw pre-existing characters and remix pre-existing music, none of it is truly original.

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[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

Then I hate the free market, then. No, I can't hit the same levels as someone in the majors (although I did pitch at 85 once. Pure luck), but what they do is a common, generic skill with nothing unique about each player. The thing I REALLY hate about some of them is how cocky they can get.

WiiCubeM1

But it's not a common, generic skill. If it were more people would be doing it, the market would be saturated, and player salaries would be low. Now since you brought up artists what makes them worthy of being paid so much? Anyone can create art.

What I mean is, simplified, anyone can play sports, and with enough practice, anyone could be as good as them (well, not ANYONE, but a sizeable chunk of the population). With art, it's all personal, all created through one's creativity and no one else on earth can create the exact same thing they did. Not everyone can create "art". I can draw, fairly well, and I can write video game remixes, but what I do is draw pre-existing characters and remix pre-existing music, none of it is truly original.

And you know what determines the monitary value of art?

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

But it's not a common, generic skill. If it were more people would be doing it, the market would be saturated, and player salaries would be low. Now since you brought up artists what makes them worthy of being paid so much? Anyone can create art.

worlock77

What I mean is, simplified, anyone can play sports, and with enough practice, anyone could be as good as them (well, not ANYONE, but a sizeable chunk of the population). With art, it's all personal, all created through one's creativity and no one else on earth can create the exact same thing they did. Not everyone can create "art". I can draw, fairly well, and I can write video game remixes, but what I do is draw pre-existing characters and remix pre-existing music, none of it is truly original.

And you know what determines the monitary value of art?

I already said I hated free market (apparently). No way around that now.

Because a lot of people daydream about what it would be like to live an exciting and oh-so-romantic life like they see on the shows and in the movies. That's really their only claim to fame.

I hate professional sports simply because they get paid millions of dollars to do nothing that contributes to society or culture, when people like scientists and artists scrape by when they are the ones making all of the innovations that drive culture and society. At least the working man gets paid a steady paycheck to keep the mainstream running smooth.

WiiCubeM1

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I hate professional sports simply because they get paid millions of dollars to do nothing that contributes to society or culture, when people like scientists and artists scrape by when they are the ones making all of the innovations that drive culture and society. At least the working man gets paid a steady paycheck to keep the mainstream running smooth.

SF_KiLLaMaN

Okay, I did jump the gun a bit there, but it's more about why they get treated the way they for doing what almost anyone can do. It's all about a certain few making millions in a useless skill that many people also have and anyone can get to with practice. I paid to play soccer and hockey in grade school, but professionals get paid millions to do the same thing I did.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

I hate professional sports simply because they get paid millions of dollars to do nothing that contributes to society or culture, when people like scientists and artists scrape by when they are the ones making all of the innovations that drive culture and society. At least the working man gets paid a steady paycheck to keep the mainstream running smooth.

WiiCubeM1

Okay, I did jump the gun a bit there, but it's more about why they get treated the way they for doing what almost anyone can do. It's all about a certain few making millions in a useless skill that many people also have and anyone can get to with practice. I paid to play soccer and hockey in grade school, but professionals get paid millions to do the same thing I did.

[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] Do nothing that contributes to society? Since when was entertainment useless to society? Post is full of fail. SF_KiLLaMaN

Okay, I did jump the gun a bit there, but it's more about why they get treated the way they for doing what almost anyone can do. It's all about a certain few making millions in a useless skill that many people also have and anyone can get to with practice. I paid to play soccer and hockey in grade school, but professionals get paid millions to do the same thing I did.

Yeah, they are better, but they are still doing something that anyone can play. With the right strategies and skillset, most college players could keep up with pro-sports. But again, they are getting paid millions to do something that is completely useless for anything other than wasting time. I mean, I don't expect to make any money from playing video games, and I'm Mario Kart and Smash Bros champ at my High School and college (yes, we had these as competitions. Our computer teacher in HS was awesome). They are entertainment using souped-up skills anyone has, and I don;t think it deserves as much money as they make.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

Okay, I did jump the gun a bit there, but it's more about why they get treated the way they for doing what almost anyone can do. It's all about a certain few making millions in a useless skill that many people also have and anyone can get to with practice. I paid to play soccer and hockey in grade school, but professionals get paid millions to do the same thing I did.

WiiCubeM1

Yeah, they are better, but they are still doing something that anyone can play. With the right strategies and skillset, most college players could keep up with pro-sports. But again, they are getting paid millions to do something that is completely useless for anything other than wasting time. I mean, I don't expect to make any money from playing video games, and I'm Mario Kart and Smash Bros champ at my High School and college (yes, we had these as competitions. Our computer teacher in HS was awesome). They are entertainment using souped-up skills anyone has, and I don;t think it deserves as much money as they make.

I hate professional sports simply because they get paid millions of dollars to do nothing that contributes to society or culture, when people like scientists and artists scrape by when they are the ones making all of the innovations that drive culture and society. At least the working man gets paid a steady paycheck to keep the mainstream running smooth.

WiiCubeM1

[QUOTE="swordsboy"][QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

I hate professional sports simply because they get paid millions of dollars to do nothing that contributes to society or culture, when people like scientists and artists scrape by when they are the ones making all of the innovations that drive culture and society. At least the working man gets paid a steady paycheck to keep the mainstream running smooth.

WiiCubeM1

Yeah, it's entertaining. I will give it that. I just hate how much we pay the players.

Sports are overrated, I never understood why they think it makes them so great to get hardcore about exercising. For example swimmers will go at 5:30 in the morning to swim, and then swim late afternoon. I guess not everyone can be as gluttonous as they can be. Actually making movies takes a lot of art, and has influenced me as a person. In fact they are part of the media, and they definately try to influence the way people think. Sports are just for people who want to pump their egos I think. And a lot of people enjoy it. Of course most people could not do what they do, they are too fat XD. I have been through a few of these threads, and there is always the arguement about free market. Well, all I got to say is that people.. Are fvking DUMMMMB! I also think that the reason college students pay high tuitions is to support sport institutions. What a rip off!

-Sun_Tzu- wrote:WiiCubeM1 wrote:

I hate professional sports simply because they get paid millions of dollars to do nothing that contributes to society or culture, when people like scientists and artists scrape by when they are the ones making all of the innovations that drive culture and society. At least the working man gets paid a steady paycheck to keep the mainstream running smooth.

Sports are a huge aspect of culture.

just like eating, what is your point? I am kind of seeing the majority opinion rules type of argument, even the free market ftw arguement is basically sayying "well most people do this, so it is legit." Majority preference does not convey moral value.

Analytical arguements aside, it is subjective, I think they get more money simply because they are better connected with society, amirite?

just like eating, what is your point? I am kind of seeing the majority opinion rules type of argument, even the free market ftw arguement is basically sayying "well most people do this, so it is legit." Majority preference does not convey moral value.

Analytical arguements aside, it is subjective, I think they get more money simply because they are better connected with society, amirite?

mahlasor

:? My point is that sports are an integral component to many cultures throughout the world

well, just imagine if every entertainer suddenly disappeared off the face of the Earth?

What would happen then?

Sports are overrated, I never understood why they think it makes them so great to get hardcore about exercising. For example swimmers will go at 5:30 in the morning to swim, and then swim late afternoon. I guess not everyone can be as gluttonous as they can be. Actually making movies takes a lot of art, and has influenced me as a person. In fact they are part of the media, and they definately try to influence the way people think. Sports are just for people who want to pump their egos I think. And a lot of people enjoy it. Of course most people could not do what they do, they are too fat XD. I have been through a few of these threads, and there is always the arguement about free market. Well, all I got to say is that people.. Are fvking DUMMMMB! I also think that the reason college students pay high tuitions is to support sport institutions. What a rip off!

-Sun_Tzu- wrote:WiiCubeM1 wrote:

I hate professional sports simply because they get paid millions of dollars to do nothing that contributes to society or culture, when people like scientists and artists scrape by when they are the ones making all of the innovations that drive culture and society. At least the working man gets paid a steady paycheck to keep the mainstream running smooth.

Sports are a huge aspect of culture.

just like eating, what is your point? I am kind of seeing the majority opinion rules type of argument, even the free market ftw arguement is basically sayying "well most people do this, so it is legit." Majority preference does not convey moral value.

Analytical arguements aside, it is subjective, I think they get more money simply because they are better connected with society, amirite?

mahlasor

I fully agree with the TC. Far too much praise is given to the bottom feeders of society in my opinion... entertainers. Why does everyone worship actors and singers etc? Great musicians deserve the praise but the mediocre ones get too much. Actors are even worse. How about we show some appreciate to scientists and educators?

I guess its because people sit on their asses watching TV so Actor A is recognisable, hence the obsessions and pathetic behaviour.

EDIT: I also think athletes shouldn't be obsessed over, however I don't put them in the same category as entertainers. Athletes strive and work hard for a personal goal. Their success often motivates people to take up physical activities which are healthy. Actors just encourage people to watch television and waste their lives away.

I fully agree with the TC. Far too much praise is given to the bottom feeders of society in my opinion... entertainers. Why does everyone worship actors and singers etc? Great musicians deserve the praise but the mediocre ones get too much. Actors are even worse. How about we show some appreciate to scientists and educators?

I guess its because people sit on their asses watching TV so Actor A is recognisable, hence the obsessions and pathetic behaviour.

EDIT: I also think athletes shouldn't be obsessed over, however I don't put them in the same category as entertainers. Athletes strive and work hard for a personal goal. Their success often motivates people to take up physical activities which are healthy. Actors just encourage people to watch television and waste their lives away.

Asim90

Do you enjoy certain movies, television shows, video games, etc? Do you feel they enrich your life in someway?

No idea. I think directors and writers and actors are the trinity that make the medium good. Neither is more important than the other. Yet actors get worshipped, its obvious why, they're in the spotlight. Still its strange. They should be envied and villified really.

No idea. I think directors and writers and actors are the trinity that make the medium good. Neither is more important than the other. Yet actors get worshipped, its obvious why, they're in the spotlight. Still its strange. They should be envied and villified really.